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Quote from: minairia3 on June 18, 2022, 02:52:00 AM

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Bayern Munich is a team that is always a favorite in the Champions League from season to season. It just doesn't line up with what's going on. Yes, they always find it difficult to face opponents from representatives of each country. It makes me speculate that it is true that the Bundesliga is now below the Liga of the other contestants. They can be superior when they are in the domestic league but for a wider competition like this Champions League they are still difficult to compete.

Bayern Munich is a strong team. However, their performance in the knock-out round of the Champions League is not good. Bayern Munich always plays attacking tactics. But on a platform like the Champions League when every opponent is very strong, Bayern should be tactful. Attacking tactics do not give you always win. If Bayern Munich's coach is tactful then I would say Bayern Munich will be able to do better in the Champions League next season.

Actually their attacking strategy is going well, it's just that it leaves gaps in their defense. If they can balance more attack and defense I also think they will be able to do a lot more in the competition. We will always encounter this kind of thing, Bayern Munich must immediately realize the location of their weakness.

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Quote from: maju69 on June 18, 2022, 02:46:11 AM

Bayern Munich is a team that is always a favorite in the Champions League from season to season. It just doesn't line up with what's going on. Yes, they always find it difficult to face opponents from representatives of each country. It makes me speculate that it is true that the Bundesliga is now below the Liga of the other contestants. They can be superior when they are in the domestic league but for a wider competition like this Champions League they are still difficult to compete.

Bayern Munich is a strong team. However, their performance in the knock-out round of the Champions League is not good. Bayern Munich always plays attacking tactics. But on a platform like the Champions League when every opponent is very strong, Bayern should be tactful. Attacking tactics do not give you always win. If Bayern Munich's coach is tactful then I would say Bayern Munich will be able to do better in the Champions League next season.

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Bayern Munich is a team that is always a favorite in the Champions League from season to season. It just doesn't line up with what's going on. Yes, they always find it difficult to face opponents from representatives of each country. It makes me speculate that it is true that the Bundesliga is now below the Liga of the other contestants. They can be superior when they are in the domestic league but for a wider competition like this Champions League they are still difficult to compete.

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Quote from: zuzie on June 18, 2022, 02:10:48 AM

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Manchester City seem to be determined about winning the Champions League title at least for once. They are making their transfer strategies according to this goal as well. They are trying to consolidate their midfield now as they have already done it for their attacking line by signing Erling Haaland. For the midfield, they are intensifying their attempts to sign Leeds midfielder Kalvin Phillips now. He is a 26-year-old skilled midfielder now. In the meantime, they are trying to sign Brighton left-back Cucurella also. We will see if this effort will be beneficial for them to make it.

Manchester City management is ready to spend a lot of money this season. Guardiola is building his team with talented players of his choice. Perhaps next season they will fight harder for the Champions League title. Manchester City now has experienced coaches like Guardiola. There are also lots of talented star players.

But to date only one player has been officially introduced to Man City, and that is at a standard price considering Erling Haaland's $66.00 million worth of quality play.
I think this season man city will not waste too much money buy players but still team building with some man city players loan deals

Next season, Guardiola's focus and task is to give players confidence to face the UEFA Champions League, because one of the factors in the hunt for Erling Haaland this season is launching a man city journey in the UCL.

Manchester City have a very good squad in every line but in the last few seasons they are still very difficult to win the Champions League title, it's just about the mentality of the team even though there is nothing wrong with them who have everything. quality coach and also quality players but to be able to win the UCL is not easy it will take a few more years to improve the mentality of the club, even though they have just signed a new megastar Haland but I think they will still be the same as the previous season, they can't win UCL championship title.

I actually think the opposite, Munich, Real Madrid are the strongest candidates that Man City will face in the Champions League competition, Liverpool are also included but they are in the same league so maybe Man City are used to that. Munich is rumor to be lose mainstay striker Robert Lewandowski, if there is a meeting between the two clubs it will be slightly in Man City's favor because weakening of the munich attack line. Real madrid is also certain to lose Marcelo Vieira, and maybe followed by Asensio, Dani Ceballos. There will be changes in Real Madrid's defense and midfielders, considering that these three names have contributed to their respective Real Madrid positions.

Bayern Munich may indeed lose their mainstay striker Lewandowski but they will soon find a suitable replacement in Sadio Mane, they will still be strong next season.
and for competitors Man City next season to win the champions League title. I think many clubs have the same opportunity, Real Madrid. Liverpool. Bayern and several other clubs, it is still too early to talk about and having a qualified squad does not guarantee to be king of Europe. last season has been proof of that.

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Manchester City seem to be determined about winning the Champions League title at least for once. They are making their transfer strategies according to this goal as well. They are trying to consolidate their midfield now as they have already done it for their attacking line by signing Erling Haaland. For the midfield, they are intensifying their attempts to sign Leeds midfielder Kalvin Phillips now. He is a 26-year-old skilled midfielder now. In the meantime, they are trying to sign Brighton left-back Cucurella also. We will see if this effort will be beneficial for them to make it.

Manchester City management is ready to spend a lot of money this season. Guardiola is building his team with talented players of his choice. Perhaps next season they will fight harder for the Champions League title. Manchester City now has experienced coaches like Guardiola. There are also lots of talented star players.

But to date only one player has been officially introduced to Man City, and that is at a standard price considering Erling Haaland's $66.00 million worth of quality play.
I think this season man city will not waste too much money buy players but still team building with some man city players loan deals

Next season, Guardiola's focus and task is to give players confidence to face the UEFA Champions League, because one of the factors in the hunt for Erling Haaland this season is launching a man city journey in the UCL.

Manchester City have a very good squad in every line but in the last few seasons they are still very difficult to win the Champions League title, it's just about the mentality of the team even though there is nothing wrong with them who have everything. quality coach and also quality players but to be able to win the UCL is not easy it will take a few more years to improve the mentality of the club, even though they have just signed a new megastar Haland but I think they will still be the same as the previous season, they can't win UCL championship title.

I actually think the opposite, Munich, Real Madrid are the strongest candidates that Man City will face in the Champions League competition, Liverpool are also included but they are in the same league so maybe Man City are used to that. Munich is rumor to be lose mainstay striker Robert Lewandowski, if there is a meeting between the two clubs it will be slightly in Man City's favor because weakening of the munich attack line. Real madrid is also certain to lose Marcelo Vieira, and maybe followed by Asensio, Dani Ceballos. There will be changes in Real Madrid's defense and midfielders, considering that these three names have contributed to their respective Real Madrid positions.

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In the 2021-2022 UEFA Champions League, Real Madrid is a club that put in tremendous effort and hard work to win the UCL. Real Madrid's 14th Champions League trophy was not smooth as they almost failed to advance to the final by Manchester City.

In my opinion, in the future, Real Madrid must give up the UCL trophy to other clubs because next season the team that will be Real Madrid's rival will be more prepared to achieve the goal of lifting the trophy even though Madrid is a club that is able to win successive UCL titles.

Real Madrid success get great come back from Manchester City after last season make dreaming for Madrid get final stage close after losing by City, but not happening in this season of UEFA Champion League because Real Madrid success made City have eliminated on semifinal stage. All sportsbook never give favorite for Real Madrid to win UEFA Champion League, all most begin on 16 round, quarter final, semifinal until final stage Real Madrid is not favorite team, but Madrid can defeated all predicting and become the winner of UEFA Champion League trophy in this season. Right now prepare for next season and make new predicting which one team have potential to be winner, will Real Madrid could repeat back to back become the winner of UEFA Champion League?

Only a few are championing Real Madrid in winning the UEFA Champions League although in the end they were able to break the assumptions of many observers and were able to pin themselves as European rulers.
Next season, Real Madrid will be more difficult if they don't prepare their strengths from now on, especially in the attacking position.

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In the 2021-2022 UEFA Champions League, Real Madrid is a club that put in tremendous effort and hard work to win the UCL. Real Madrid's 14th Champions League trophy was not smooth as they almost failed to advance to the final by Manchester City.

In my opinion, in the future, Real Madrid must give up the UCL trophy to other clubs because next season the team that will be Real Madrid's rival will be more prepared to achieve the goal of lifting the trophy even though Madrid is a club that is able to win successive UCL titles.

What makes you speculate so? It's not that Real Madrid have been under pressure this season either, it's considered they won't be able to win against most of the favorites in last season's Champions League. Paris Saint Germain, Chelsea, Manchester City, Liverpool. They (Real Madrid) were considered lost by some even before the match took place. But what we see, they are able to answer the doubts of many people.

First, the performances of Manchester City and Liverpool have been extraordinary plus the factor of their coaches (Pep Guardiola and Jurgen Klopp) who have been very successful in recent years so many people have doubts about Real Madrid.
Then the second, Real Madrid won with difficulty and can be considered lucky against PSG, Chelsea and Manchester City. Against PSG, Madrid was considered not going to qualify for the next round because they lost 1-0 at the Parc des Princes Stadium, but Madrid hit back 3-1 at the Santiago Bernabeu.

Against Chelsea, hopes of qualifying for the semifinals were almost lost because Chelsea were able to lead by 3 goals at home to Madrid even though Rodrygo and Benzema became the saviors for winning on aggregate. The same thing happened against Manchester City.

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Quote from: abhiseshakana on June 18, 2022, 01:18:22 AM

I guess, a lot of people also think that way. But strangely, whoever the Man United coach always plays Maguire as a starter, as if the bad performance he had was not a significant problem. He is indeed a captain, but isn't that position replaceable? Man United must find a replacement for Maguire, at least if they fail to get new players, then Man United should try to use Lindelof and Eric Bailly more.

Maybe the coach doubted the players who were on the bench and still entrusted the defense to Maguire even though his game was as we saw. We'll see if Teh Hag will do the same as the previous coach and keep Maguire as the main player. Unless Maguire can do better than the previous season and give the message that he deserves to be played.

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Quote from: Jody.Drummer on June 17, 2022, 11:36:45 PM

Harry Maguire, for some reason I always smile when I hear that name. Is it the performance every time I play for Manchester United that makes me like that, I don't know.
Indeed, when it comes to Manchester United players, Harry Maguire is one of the lowest performing players in my opinion. In almost every game, he always made mistakes that could have been avoided.

I guess, a lot of people also think that way. But strangely, whoever the Man United coach always plays Maguire as a starter, as if the bad performance he had was not a significant problem. He is indeed a captain, but isn't that position replaceable? Man United must find a replacement for Maguire, at least if they fail to get new players, then Man United should try to use Lindelof and Eric Bailly more.

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Quote from: zuzie on June 17, 2022, 08:33:44 PM

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Manchester City seem to be determined about winning the Champions League title at least for once. They are making their transfer strategies according to this goal as well. They are trying to consolidate their midfield now as they have already done it for their attacking line by signing Erling Haaland. For the midfield, they are intensifying their attempts to sign Leeds midfielder Kalvin Phillips now. He is a 26-year-old skilled midfielder now. In the meantime, they are trying to sign Brighton left-back Cucurella also. We will see if this effort will be beneficial for them to make it.

Manchester City management is ready to spend a lot of money this season. Guardiola is building his team with talented players of his choice. Perhaps next season they will fight harder for the Champions League title. Manchester City now has experienced coaches like Guardiola. There are also lots of talented star players.

But to date only one player has been officially introduced to Man City, and that is at a standard price considering Erling Haaland's $66.00 million worth of quality play.
I think this season man city will not waste too much money buy players but still team building with some man city players loan deals

Next season, Guardiola's focus and task is to give players confidence to face the UEFA Champions League, because one of the factors in the hunt for Erling Haaland this season is launching a man city journey in the UCL.

Manchester City have a very good squad in every line but in the last few seasons they are still very difficult to win the Champions League title, it's just about the mentality of the team even though there is nothing wrong with them who have everything. quality coach and also quality players but to be able to win the UCL is not easy it will take a few more years to improve the mentality of the club, even though they have just signed a new megastar Haland but I think they will still be the same as the previous season, they can't win UCL championship title.

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Quote from: Despairo on June 17, 2022, 08:53:32 PM

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But to date only one player has been officially introduced to Man City, and that is at a standard price considering Erling Haaland's $66.00 million worth of quality play.

It still make sense considering Manchester United agree to deal Maguire from Leicester City worth of $80 Million, but his performance is really bad and not even worth for $10 Million. Halaand is really a potential player, not many strikers are very aggressive like him and his aggressiveness isn't over that can harm him with his club. It will be interesting on the next UCL 2022/2023 to watch their performance, I'd say the top 3 clubs will win is still either Manchester City, Real Madrid and Liverpool.

Harry Maguire, for some reason I always smile when I hear that name. Is it the performance every time I play for Manchester United that makes me like that, I don't know.
Indeed, when it comes to Manchester United players, Harry Maguire is one of the lowest performing players in my opinion. In almost every game, he always made mistakes that could have been avoided.

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Quote from: zuzie on June 17, 2022, 08:33:44 PM

But to date only one player has been officially introduced to Man City, and that is at a standard price considering Erling Haaland's $66.00 million worth of quality play.

It still make sense considering Manchester United agree to deal Maguire from Leicester City worth of $80 Million, but his performance is really bad and not even worth for $10 Million. Halaand is really a potential player, not many strikers are very aggressive like him and his aggressiveness isn't over that can harm him with his club. It will be interesting on the next UCL 2022/2023 to watch their performance, I'd say the top 3 clubs will win is still either Manchester City, Real Madrid and Liverpool.

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Manchester City seem to be determined about winning the Champions League title at least for once. They are making their transfer strategies according to this goal as well. They are trying to consolidate their midfield now as they have already done it for their attacking line by signing Erling Haaland. For the midfield, they are intensifying their attempts to sign Leeds midfielder Kalvin Phillips now. He is a 26-year-old skilled midfielder now. In the meantime, they are trying to sign Brighton left-back Cucurella also. We will see if this effort will be beneficial for them to make it.

Manchester City management is ready to spend a lot of money this season. Guardiola is building his team with talented players of his choice. Perhaps next season they will fight harder for the Champions League title. Manchester City now has experienced coaches like Guardiola. There are also lots of talented star players.

But to date only one player has been officially introduced to Man City, and that is at a standard price considering Erling Haaland's $66.00 million worth of quality play.
I think this season man city will not waste too much money buy players but still team building with some man city players loan deals

Next season, Guardiola's focus and task is to give players confidence to face the UEFA Champions League, because one of the factors in the hunt for Erling Haaland this season is launching a man city journey in the UCL.

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I think when Real Madrid are belittled that's when they respond to the underestimation with achievements. In the game I saw they were a little pressured, but under pressure they could still play calm and try to create chances through counter attacks. That was the key to their victory, they weren't in a rush in building attacks but any small chance they got would be a nightmare for the opponent.

Nobody really "belittled" Real Madrid, it was just rosters and obvious decisions. Like PSG had a better roster, that is a fact, players that are younger and better right now, but when you play only 2 games, anything could happen during that time. Same goes for City, they could be (I haven't checked) the most expensive club, they worth like 1 billion dollars, and yet if you look at the team, I would assume that Real would lose that game and yet they won.

This isn't belittling, that is what people think about the players. If a players value is higher, that means you would need to spend around that much to get that player, it is the market price, and real won with players that had less value than their opponents.

But if you look at the advantages or partiality, Madrid clearly loses when compared to other clubs such as PSG, City or Liverpool.
As for their opponents, the word underestimation might be a little appropriate because if you look at the actual game from the beginning of the knockout phase we can see that Madrid's winning goal was scored in the final 10 minutes, which indicates that apart from their strategy being emphasized there, in this case, there are several clubs who do consider easy attack, example for PSG and City.

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Real Madrid became the most successful team in this Champions League, with 14 times winning the title is certainly a very good achievement they did. I think they deserve that especially they never lack players who are very good in every area. Another plus, they have a strong mentality which I don't think other teams have at least for now.

Real Madrid were just destined for the tittle they won last season, because I don't see them winning Liverpool if not that luck was on their side,and that they were destined to win.Theh had a very successful season which was pivotal to their winning the champions league.Liverpool was my favourite to win the tittle,but Real madrid proved to every one that they've worked hard alot to get to the finals without going back home with the trophy.Their mentality was really good as well.Last season was theirs,maybe next season will be for another team.

I admit the Champions League final Liverpool played better than Real Madrid, but I don't agree that Real Madrid won the trophy by luck.
Before beating Liverpool even Real Madrid managed to get rid of several other strong teams, meaning that it is only natural that Real Madrid
can beat Liverpool in the Champions League final. The key to Real Madrid's success this season is of course hard work and Real Madrid do have
a winning mentality. Because Real Madrid is strengthened by several players who have won the Champions League trophy several times,
So Real Madrid has a stronger mentality than Liverpool.

Regarding the Champions League winner next season is more difficult to predict, because some strong teams have strengthened their squad
by bringing in new players, meaning that there is a possibility that the winner of the Champions League trophy next season will belong
to another team. After all Liverpool must have learned from the defeat they suffered in the Champions League final, Jurgen Klopp is a smart coach,
he will plan a new strategy, more effective to win the Champions League next season. So Real Madrid must be careful if they meet Liverpool again
next season in the Champions League.

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I see there is a total of 3 games before the starting of 1st qualification round. It is clear which ones will pass to the next round when you see its names.

Quote from: judas on June 17, 2022, 03:04:13 PM

Manchester City seem to be determined about winning the Champions League title at least for once. They are making their transfer strategies according to this goal as well. They are trying to consolidate their midfield now as they have already done it for their attacking line by signing Erling Haaland. For the midfield, they are intensifying their attempts to sign Leeds midfielder Kalvin Phillips now. He is a 26-year-old skilled midfielder now. In the meantime, they are trying to sign Brighton left-back Cucurella also. We will see if this effort will be beneficial for them to make it.

City and PSG spent a lot of money to get that title mainly but they failed so far. I don't trust PSG a lot but City might achieve it in 2023

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Quote from: tulusikhlas on June 17, 2022, 04:11:12 AM

Real Madrid became the most successful team in this Champions League, with 14 times winning the title is certainly a very good achievement they did. I think they deserve that especially they never lack players who are very good in every area. Another plus, they have a strong mentality which I don't think other teams have at least for now.

Real Madrid were just destined for the tittle they won last season, because I don't see them winning Liverpool if not that luck was on their side,and that they were destined to win.Theh had a very successful season which was pivotal to their winning the champions league.Liverpool was my favourite to win the tittle,but Real madrid proved to every one that they've worked hard alot to get to the finals without going back home with the trophy.Their mentality was really good as well.Last season was theirs,maybe next season will be for another team.

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Quote from: ShowOff on June 17, 2022, 02:37:03 AM

Indeed, every season the competition between teams that qualify for the Champions League from various leagues will be very tight because these teams have made many changes, especially regarding the quality and strength of their teams by buying new players.
In the Premier League, Manchester and the other 3 teams that will compete in the Champions League continue to increase the strength of the team by adding some new players and the same will certainly be done by all the teams that qualify for the Champions League just to compete for the title next season. This must be interesting.

every team dream which qualify for this most prestigious competition is to win the UCL Trophy. It's only natural that every club is competing to bring in star players to strengthen the squad for next season. PSG and Manchester City will probably be the point of our attention because for several seasons they really hoped they could win the UCL Trophy but due to lack of luck they had to run aground from other teams. if we look at Tottenham at this time they are constantly trying to bring in some players to strengthen the squad and today's news Tottenham have officially signed Yves Bissouma from Brighton.

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Last season, Real Madrid played with almost the same composition as the previous season (which was coached by Zidane), so many assume that Real Madrid will not get a good achievement. But what happened, they even got the La Liga trophy and the Champions League Trophy. So I think for the following seasons, Real Madrid will remain a formidable challenger in the fight for the title in every competition they participate in. After all, they also have a lot of money to make their squad even stronger.

I think when Real Madrid are belittled that's when they respond to the underestimation with achievements. In the game I saw they were a little pressured, but under pressure they could still play calm and try to create chances through counter attacks. That was the key to their victory, they weren't in a rush in building attacks but any small chance they got would be a nightmare for the opponent.

Nobody really "belittled" Real Madrid, it was just rosters and obvious decisions. Like PSG had a better roster, that is a fact, players that are younger and better right now, but when you play only 2 games, anything could happen during that time. Same goes for City, they could be (I haven't checked) the most expensive club, they worth like 1 billion dollars, and yet if you look at the team, I would assume that Real would lose that game and yet they won.

This isn't belittling, that is what people think about the players. If a players value is higher, that means you would need to spend around that much to get that player, it is the market price, and real won with players that had less value than their opponents.

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Quote from: judas on June 17, 2022, 03:04:13 PM

Manchester City seem to be determined about winning the Champions League title at least for once. They are making their transfer strategies according to this goal as well. They are trying to consolidate their midfield now as they have already done it for their attacking line by signing Erling Haaland. For the midfield, they are intensifying their attempts to sign Leeds midfielder Kalvin Phillips now. He is a 26-year-old skilled midfielder now. In the meantime, they are trying to sign Brighton left-back Cucurella also. We will see if this effort will be beneficial for them to make it.

Manchester City management is ready to spend a lot of money this season. Guardiola is building his team with talented players of his choice. Perhaps next season they will fight harder for the Champions League title. Manchester City now has experienced coaches like Guardiola. There are also lots of talented star players.

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Manchester City seem to be determined about winning the Champions League title at least for once. They are making their transfer strategies according to this goal as well. They are trying to consolidate their midfield now as they have already done it for their attacking line by signing Erling Haaland. For the midfield, they are intensifying their attempts to sign Leeds midfielder Kalvin Phillips now. He is a 26-year-old skilled midfielder now. In the meantime, they are trying to sign Brighton left-back Cucurella also. We will see if this effort will be beneficial for them to make it.

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