UEFA Champions League Discussion Thread - page 8.

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Quote from: aylabadia05 on June 16, 2022, 10:43:40 PM

In the 2021-2022 UEFA Champions League, Real Madrid is a club that put in tremendous effort and hard work to win the UCL. Real Madrid's 14th Champions League trophy was not smooth as they almost failed to advance to the final by Manchester City.

In my opinion, in the future, Real Madrid must give up the UCL trophy to other clubs because next season the team that will be Real Madrid's rival will be more prepared to achieve the goal of lifting the trophy even though Madrid is a club that is able to win successive UCL titles.

What makes you speculate so? It's not that Real Madrid have been under pressure this season either, it's considered they won't be able to win against most of the favorites in last season's Champions League. Paris Saint Germain, Chelsea, Manchester City, Liverpool. They (Real Madrid) were considered lost by some even before the match took place. But what we see, they are able to answer the doubts of many people.

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In the 2021-2022 UEFA Champions League, Real Madrid is a club that put in tremendous effort and hard work to win the UCL. Real Madrid's 14th Champions League trophy was not smooth as they almost failed to advance to the final by Manchester City.

In my opinion, in the future, Real Madrid must give up the UCL trophy to other clubs because next season the team that will be Real Madrid's rival will be more prepared to achieve the goal of lifting the trophy even though Madrid is a club that is able to win successive UCL titles.

Real Madrid success get great come back from Manchester City after last season make dreaming for Madrid get final stage close after losing by City, but not happening in this season of UEFA Champion League because Real Madrid success made City have eliminated on semifinal stage. All sportsbook never give favorite for Real Madrid to win UEFA Champion League, all most begin on 16 round, quarter final, semifinal until final stage Real Madrid is not favorite team, but Madrid can defeated all predicting and become the winner of UEFA Champion League trophy in this season. Right now prepare for next season and make new predicting which one team have potential to be winner, will Real Madrid could repeat back to back become the winner of UEFA Champion League?

It's possible to happen because the transfers made by Real Madrid are fairly good, although indeed, Real Madrid failed to get Mbappe and Haaland. That way, those who get these two players will probably have a better chance next season to win the Champions League title. But regarding PSG, I will still wait for the coach to replace Pochettino because there are rumors that Zidane will join PSG. Because if PSG succeed in making Zidane a coach then of course PSG next season will be much better than now, about the two EPL teams I think they also have a chance.

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Yes, Real Madrid won the UEFA champion league title 3 times that showed that their managements are doing a great job in the team. This year victory was a big surprised to many people, because people concluded that Liverpool will defeat Real Madrid in the second half but the game changed for the favour of Real Madrid to defeated Liverpool 1-0 to embraced this year season title. Benzema really demonstrated well to helped Real Madrid to achieved this season title with different tactics he showcased during the tournament that was giving their fans joy.

It's not just Benz, but sorry, it's the whole team.
Including reserves, including managers.
It is not easy to achieve this balance and it is no coincidence that she won being the underdog in the match
When everything goes well, you can easily win

I agree this is the fruit of teamwork as a whole, not just individuals. Benzema does stand out but what makes all that is because his team-mates are playing well.
Real Madrid have an organized team that has led them to great success, especially in this Champions League. It will be very difficult for any other team to break the success that Real Madrid have achieved until now.

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Quote from: aylabadia05 on June 16, 2022, 10:43:40 PM

In the 2021-2022 UEFA Champions League, Real Madrid is a club that put in tremendous effort and hard work to win the UCL. Real Madrid's 14th Champions League trophy was not smooth as they almost failed to advance to the final by Manchester City.

In my opinion, in the future, Real Madrid must give up the UCL trophy to other clubs because next season the team that will be Real Madrid's rival will be more prepared to achieve the goal of lifting the trophy even though Madrid is a club that is able to win successive UCL titles.

Real Madrid success get great come back from Manchester City after last season make dreaming for Madrid get final stage close after losing by City, but not happening in this season of UEFA Champion League because Real Madrid success made City have eliminated on semifinal stage. All sportsbook never give favorite for Real Madrid to win UEFA Champion League, all most begin on 16 round, quarter final, semifinal until final stage Real Madrid is not favorite team, but Madrid can defeated all predicting and become the winner of UEFA Champion League trophy in this season. Right now prepare for next season and make new predicting which one team have potential to be winner, will Real Madrid could repeat back to back become the winner of UEFA Champion League?

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Quote from: Sebas.tian on June 17, 2022, 12:24:19 AM

Yes, Real Madrid won the UEFA champion league title 3 times that showed that their managements are doing a great job in the team. This year victory was a big surprised to many people, because people concluded that Liverpool will defeat Real Madrid in the second half but the game changed for the favour of Real Madrid to defeated Liverpool 1-0 to embraced this year season title. Benzema really demonstrated well to helped Real Madrid to achieved this season title with different tactics he showcased during the tournament that was giving their fans joy.

It's not just Benz, but sorry, it's the whole team.
Including reserves, including managers.
It is not easy to achieve this balance and it is no coincidence that she won being the underdog in the match
When everything goes well, you can easily win

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Quote from: Sebas.tian on June 17, 2022, 12:24:19 AM

Yes, Real Madrid won the UEFA champion league title 3 times that showed that their managements are doing a great job in the team. This year victory was a big surprised to many people, because people concluded that Liverpool will defeat Real Madrid in the second half but the game changed for the favour of Real Madrid to defeated Liverpool 1-0 to embraced this year season title.

I wasn't surprise as many people were, remember how Real Madrid ended up in the finals. The obstacle they had to face and impressive comebacks to win games. This isn't the first time they have won Liverpool at a Champions League final, you should understand that Real Madrid don't just play finals they win finals. In this knockout stages, there were many speculation that if Real Madrid was to reach the finals in some miraculous way after their fixtures were announced that there is every possibility of them being able to win Liverpool.

You have to give Real Madrid some acknowledgement because they defeated the top three premier League clubs on their way to the finals and finally lifting the cup. This season Champions League tournament is going to be quite different one as both Manchester City and Liverpool won't let it slide out of their reach again, already we can see both teams very busy in the market and Manchester City just acquired Haaland. We should be expecting some goal breaking record next season.

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Real Madrid remains a difficult team to estimate. Of the 3 times they have won the Champions League in recent years, all 4 times they have not been favorites. But the team has enormous mental toughness, because a few times they were actually 99% out, and they still managed to fight back from a beaten position. That's no luck anymore. If you're often lucky, that's a quality. Man City, Bayern Munich and also Liverpool seem better to me in principle. But time and time again they improve on Madrid. Benzema has been really great this season.

Yes, Real Madrid won the UEFA champion league title 3 times that showed that their managements are doing a great job in the team. This year victory was a big surprised to many people, because people concluded that Liverpool will defeat Real Madrid in the second half but the game changed for the favour of Real Madrid to defeated Liverpool 1-0 to embraced this year season title. Benzema really demonstrated well to helped Real Madrid to achieved this season title with different tactics he showcased during the tournament that was giving their fans joy.

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Real Madrid might seem like weaker in terms of some criteria to some people maybe but they are a winner team in the Champions League. Maybe they don't have the best lineup among European teams now but even their experience can be enough for them to achieve this title. As long as they have a good management they can be really unstoppable. Thanks to Ancelotti they are having another golden age and it looks like this will go on like this for Real Madrid for long years too.

There are no perfect teams in the world, if there are we would have only one winners in 20 years. There are perfect squad ofcourse, but you need more than a perfect squad to win the champions league, and these was what Real Madrid and Ancelotti did with Madrid last season. They combined total discipline, clinical experience and tactically responsibility to defeat 3 top perfect teams to win the champions league. There is no weak Real Madrid team, they are going into the new season stronger and full of confidence

In the 2021-2022 UEFA Champions League, Real Madrid is a club that put in tremendous effort and hard work to win the UCL. Real Madrid's 14th Champions League trophy was not smooth as they almost failed to advance to the final by Manchester City.

In my opinion, in the future, Real Madrid must give up the UCL trophy to other clubs because next season the team that will be Real Madrid's rival will be more prepared to achieve the goal of lifting the trophy even though Madrid is a club that is able to win successive UCL titles.

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Quote from: Rockstarguy on June 16, 2022, 04:54:02 PM

Despite how many times Real Madrid has won the UEFA champions league people still under estimates them, before the concluded UEFA champions league many thought Real Madrid won't be able to win the Champions League but Real Madrid proved to everyone that they are champions for all time, next season will be another great experience for Real Madrid to show again who they and what they can do again.

Honestly in this case I quite understand why something like this can happen.
In fact other big teams like PSG, City and Liverpool are clearly the favorites due to their excellent performances in the Champions League and if they are in the order then Madrid is definitely in the last option when compared to that club.
But the problem is that things like that are not easy because it is certain that when trust is greater the pressure is even more increased and the top teams are eliminated with excessive expectations.

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Quote from: youdacapt on June 16, 2022, 03:52:41 PM

There are no perfect teams in the world, if there are we would have only one winners in 20 years. There are perfect squad ofcourse, but you need more than a perfect squad to win the champions league, and these was what Real Madrid and Ancelotti did with Madrid last season. They combined total discipline, clinical experience and tactically responsibility to defeat 3 top perfect teams to win the champions league. There is no weak Real Madrid team, they are going into the new season stronger and full of confidence

Now, many people have agreed that Real Madrid is a champion is not because of luck but tactic and strategy. They have the best player such as Benzema (was a strong candidate for Ballon d'Or), so if this year that category is not from Real Madrid players, we will no longer trust the event. We have to wait for the next session, what real Madrid does, they have a full surprise, I don't care either if they can't get Mbappe to Santiago barnebue, but who is care, with the current squad, I believe they will make trouble most expensive club and will be one in the semi-finals.

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Manchester City has always had a high target in the Champions League, Pep Guardiola is indeed ambitious to bring Manchester City to win this prestigious competition on the plains of Europe. However, their struggles always run aground, even though the composition of the team is very promising. Indeed in this case I say that luck has not been on his side.

After Haaland in the squad, I believe the dream could happen. the team will get stronger if Haaland can organize his new partner Julian Alvarez, from River Plate in front, only if Pep implements a new strategy with 2 attackers (3-5-2). but if impossible, Haaland will be a single attacker like in Dortmund, even though that position is very risky for to him get injured.

Injury of a football player like Haaland? I think no one would want such a thing, he is a very young football player and is already among the best in the world.
The squad is quite strong, but I'm very curious as to what the team's strategy will be. Playing with only one striker may not be the right choice. They will want to create a stronger and stronger team

the arrival of Erling Haaland to the Etihad stadium will make Guardiola very dependent on the striker where currently Manchester city is playing without a pure striker they rely more on their midfielders to score goals which is proven when Kevin de Bruyne becomes the top scorer for Manchester city, will It is very interesting to watch Haaland take part in the English Premier League this season, I am very sure that his arrival will make Manchester City even more solid in the domestic arena and also in the UCL.

Indeed with Manchester city adding Erling Haaland to their for the next campaign is a plus and will bring significant boost and improve the squad. It will add more power to their attack,they will score more goals and win more games easily. You could call Guardiola name but one thing is sure, He is a very good coach and with his tactics he is winning trophies and when he finally wins the champions league trophy it will be reward for his excellence in the past years.

Yeah, he's just a little short of winning this tournament, and every time. The player will definitely strengthen the squad, they will become stronger in attack, but it cannot be said that just because of him they will start to win tournaments and feature a huge number of goals scored. He still needs to get used to the team, learn how to interact with the players

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Quote from: Pulsar77 on June 16, 2022, 03:38:18 PM

Real Madrid might seem like weaker in terms of some criteria to some people maybe but they are a winner team in the Champions League. Maybe they don't have the best lineup among European teams now but even their experience can be enough for them to achieve this title. As long as they have a good management they can be really unstoppable. Thanks to Ancelotti they are having another golden age and it looks like this will go on like this for Real Madrid for long years too.

Despite how many times Real Madrid has won the UEFA champions league people still under estimates them, before the concluded UEFA champions league many thought Real Madrid won't be able to win the Champions League but Real Madrid proved to everyone that they are champions for all time, next season will be another great experience for Real Madrid to show again who they and what they can do again.

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Manchester City has always had a high target in the Champions League, Pep Guardiola is indeed ambitious to bring Manchester City to win this prestigious competition on the plains of Europe. However, their struggles always run aground, even though the composition of the team is very promising. Indeed in this case I say that luck has not been on his side.

After Haaland in the squad, I believe the dream could happen. the team will get stronger if Haaland can organize his new partner Julian Alvarez, from River Plate in front, only if Pep implements a new strategy with 2 attackers (3-5-2). but if impossible, Haaland will be a single attacker like in Dortmund, even though that position is very risky for to him get injured.

Injury of a football player like Haaland? I think no one would want such a thing, he is a very young football player and is already among the best in the world.
The squad is quite strong, but I'm very curious as to what the team's strategy will be. Playing with only one striker may not be the right choice. They will want to create a stronger and stronger team

the arrival of Erling Haaland to the Etihad stadium will make Guardiola very dependent on the striker where currently Manchester city is playing without a pure striker they rely more on their midfielders to score goals which is proven when Kevin de Bruyne becomes the top scorer for Manchester city, will It is very interesting to watch Haaland take part in the English Premier League this season, I am very sure that his arrival will make Manchester City even more solid in the domestic arena and also in the UCL.

Indeed with Manchester city adding Erling Haaland to their for the next campaign is a plus and will bring significant boost and improve the squad. It will add more power to their attack,they will score more goals and win more games easily. You could call Guardiola name but one thing is sure, He is a very good coach and with his tactics he is winning trophies and when he finally wins the champions league trophy it will be reward for his excellence in the past years.

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Manchester City want the Champions League title so bad now. Guardiola wants to achieve this in the first place. Since his time started at Manchester City, their main goal has been winning the Champions League title. I think they have an adequate squad to reach the title actually and they have improved their squad even more now thanks to signing Erling Haaland. This would absolutely reflect on the odds for them to become the champions next season. But the odds don't tell the facts every time so we will see.

Considering that there is a second Frankenstein club in the face of PSG, City's chances will be no more than 50% Grin

Well, in fact, I doubt that at the start of the Champions League City's chances will be estimated at more than 15% - after all, this is a tournament with a large number of relegation games and competitors are also strong.
By the way, in Bavaria, which also had a great squad, Guardiola also faced only this task, but he could not solve it.

I agree that it is not an easy task, but at the same time I have to say there is a difference between being a great club, and being a team that wins the UCL. This is why City ends up losing, being a tournament team, and being a great club are different things. When you are like Madrid for example, or Chelsea, you could be not the best team in the league, or not be favorite during games, and you could still end up getting a win from champions league.

This is why I believe City needs to change the approach they have. If they can somehow managed to turn the team into a more tournament style team, it would matter a lot, how that is done is beyond me, but it has been done before.

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Quote from: Pulsar77 on June 16, 2022, 03:38:18 PM

Real Madrid might seem like weaker in terms of some criteria to some people maybe but they are a winner team in the Champions League. Maybe they don't have the best lineup among European teams now but even their experience can be enough for them to achieve this title. As long as they have a good management they can be really unstoppable. Thanks to Ancelotti they are having another golden age and it looks like this will go on like this for Real Madrid for long years too.

There are no perfect teams in the world, if there are we would have only one winners in 20 years. There are perfect squad ofcourse, but you need more than a perfect squad to win the champions league, and these was what Real Madrid and Ancelotti did with Madrid last season. They combined total discipline, clinical experience and tactically responsibility to defeat 3 top perfect teams to win the champions league. There is no weak Real Madrid team, they are going into the new season stronger and full of confidence

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Quote from: xzone on June 16, 2022, 09:00:10 AM

Injury of a football player like Haaland? I think no one would want such a thing, he is a very young football player and is already among the best in the world.
The squad is quite strong, but I'm very curious as to what the team's strategy will be. Playing with only one striker may not be the right choice. They will want to create a stronger and stronger team

No one knows one's future fate. But seeing his great stature I think Erling Haaland will be far from injured. Pep is a coach with full of strategy he will know which strategy is suitable to be installed when dealing with a certain team. Last season, Manchester City lost luck in the Champions League because after winning the first leg, they ran aground in the second leg. Manchester City game system was quite good last season either in the domestic league or in the champions league.

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Guess what that every single season .. real madrid , bayern munich , psg and manchester city nowadays always become the main title contender.
Especially this season where haaland joined manchester city and i feel that pep guardiola & manchester city could achieve something big like winning the champions league for the first time ever in club history.

Real madrid seems weaker compared to the other three , but they had strong experience and champions mentality that often beat those high class squad.

Real Madrid might seem like weaker in terms of some criteria to some people maybe but they are a winner team in the Champions League. Maybe they don't have the best lineup among European teams now but even their experience can be enough for them to achieve this title. As long as they have a good management they can be really unstoppable. Thanks to Ancelotti they are having another golden age and it looks like this will go on like this for Real Madrid for long years too.

Should they be champions and managed to beat the 4 seeds (PSG, Chelsea, City and Liverpool) there would be no reason to think of Real Madrid as a weak team.
In terms of strength they are equal but there is a more factor, namely experience because in this case experience is also decisive and Real Madrid is proof that their experience can make the determination to win bigger.

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Real Madrid remains a difficult team to estimate. Of the 3 times they have won the Champions League in recent years, all 4 times they have not been favorites. But the team has enormous mental toughness, because a few times they were actually 99% out, and they still managed to fight back from a beaten position. That's no luck anymore. If you're often lucky, that's a quality. Man City, Bayern Munich and also Liverpool seem better to me in principle. But time and time again they improve on Madrid. Benzema has been really great this season.

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Quote from: EdenHazard on June 12, 2022, 06:06:30 PM

Guess what that every single season .. real madrid , bayern munich , psg and manchester city nowadays always become the main title contender.
Especially this season where haaland joined manchester city and i feel that pep guardiola & manchester city could achieve something big like winning the champions league for the first time ever in club history.

Real madrid seems weaker compared to the other three , but they had strong experience and champions mentality that often beat those high class squad.

Real Madrid might seem like weaker in terms of some criteria to some people maybe but they are a winner team in the Champions League. Maybe they don't have the best lineup among European teams now but even their experience can be enough for them to achieve this title. As long as they have a good management they can be really unstoppable. Thanks to Ancelotti they are having another golden age and it looks like this will go on like this for Real Madrid for long years too.

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After Haaland in the squad, I believe the dream could happen. the team will get stronger if Haaland can organize his new partner Julian Alvarez, from River Plate in front, only if Pep implements a new strategy with 2 attackers (3-5-2). but if impossible, Haaland will be a single attacker like in Dortmund, even though that position is very risky for to him get injured.

That's right, the arrival of their new player, Erling Haaland will add to their strength. But we also have to consider other teams that are also strengthening themselves to compete in the domestic league and also the Champions League. For several seasons Manchester City have been the favorites for it, but it is the strength of their rivals' luck that has forced them to bury their hopes.

The Champions League is the toughest football competition to win and each season we have at least 5 or 6 favorites to win this trophy.
Let's be realistic, we can't say that the best team wins this competition every time, but the team who is the most prepared, and has the necessary mental strength and concentration during a very hard season.
I have to admit that it is unexpected to me that Manchester City has not yet won this competition but it seems to me that Pep is also partly responsible.
It seems to me that he played too carefully in all the key games and changed his strategy and game plan too much.

Yes I will agree with you that Pep Guardiola is also to be blamed for their failure to win the champions league trophy in past years. They have the players, they are always prepared but the always lose concentration at the finishing stage, at the point when winning should be the main focus they always fall off and end up losing the goal so he is also to blame for their failure to win the champions league

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