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Quote from: herurist on January 29, 2022, 04:47:20 PM

I never doubted these three players who were already unquestionable in their individual skills. but indeed the problem of ego and play which tends to prioritize their individualistic skills is still evident in some PSG matches and this could be a boomerang for them.
maybe there are some weaknesses in real madrid especially when they attack which often forgets their defense area but in terms of cohesiveness I still believe in the midfield and front line of Real madrid

Because they want to appear or be in the spotlight, this is for the future. we all know Mbappe is Real Madrid's target, they won't be interested anymore when he playing badly and not consistent. Pochetino must look at situations, that are possible on forwarding in centerfield. if they want to win, the ball supply must be on Messi or Neymar and forwarding into Mbappe. I don't find the Madrid problem, maybe a defensive midfielder has to be active for this time.

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It will be a very difficult match. The offensive line of both teams is very good. I think we will watch two games with lots of goals. Now, whichever team scores more goals will be the side that passes the round. Real or Paris SG, it doesn't matter. A team will show their strength and the team that passes this elimination continues until the final. This is a match that can be played in the final. I am sure that all eyes will be on this match while the champions league qualifiers are played in the world.

That's right, I'm also looking forward to the round of 16 match for the Champions League this time because the two best teams will play really well in that round too and hopefully one of them can win even though personally I prefer the Real Madrid team to win that match in the 16th round of the Champions League later.

Honestly there is only like 2 weeks left and I can't wait. The games are all looking awesome. Yes Bayern vs Salzburg could be a boring game, but the other games are looking either close or at least close enough. United vs ATM? That's great, sure you can think one is better than the other if you want but it is "close enough" game, Ajax vs Benfica, close enough, Juventus vs Villareal, close enough, Chelsea vs Lille could be a big difference, Lille got the league last year but this year they suck so that could be boring, Liverpool is better than Inter but that is still close enough if you ask me, City is definitely much better than Lisbon, and the most famous PSG vs Madrid, that's amazing.

So, I would say only 3 matchups are not close enough, all the others are up for grabs and it will be amazing to watch them all unravel.

^ Actually, instead of some obviously boring ones, almost all the other matches are going to be really interesting.

Yes, maybe it is a little easy to predict but still in my opinion the matches are going to be close. But almost all the other matches are a little easy to predict except for Real Madrid vs PSG because I have to say this match is an even match.

Even though PSG has been performing really well recently I still think that PSG is not performing at their peak and Real Madrid still has a very good chance of winning even though they don't have the mighty strong squad like PSG.

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Quote from: Rengga Jati on January 29, 2022, 03:55:06 PM

Quote from: kassex on January 28, 2022, 02:47:47 PM

Madrid do not have a very strong squad for this level of play. Psg are more motivated to win, and they have a stronger squad than Madrid.They may be able to win the home game, but in the end, PSG will go to the next round.

Why do you think PSG has more motivation to win? Don't tell me it is because they have Messi? Although PSG has Messi, Neymar, and Mbappe in their attacking line, doesn't mean they will automatically win against Real Madrid. To win the match needs solid playing, all lines will have a contribution to lead the team winning or losing in the match. Even, in my opinion, the midfield line to have a more crucial role in this match. Which team thas has a better midfield and is more solid in playing? The answer is Real Madrid. So, don't judge PSG is stronger because they have more superstars, in reality they are difficult to play a solid team. For me, considering their current performance, Real Madrid is better than PSG. All the lines in Real Madrid performed quite well lately, they played as a team. While PSG, although they have many superstars, each superstar plays too individually and focuses on showing their own performance. So, I am sure Real Madrid beats PSG and qualified for the next round.

You are still talking about the same Real Madrid who lost against Elche CF and Getafe CF in recent times, right? And I am not even talking about the number of red cards they have got in recent matches. Cheesy

Meanwhile, I actually can't remember when the last time PSG lost a match, to be honest. Cool

And here you are saying that Real Madrid is performing quite well recently and better than PSG. It's true that PSG is not performing at their peak but they are certainly performing better than Real Madrid right now.

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But on the other hand, their current strength is balanced, I think. Their goal ratio is quite balanced in their respective leagues and it shows their strength and productivity is unquestionable.
On the other hand, we also see now the strength of the Madrid Trio, namely Benzema, Vinicius and Asensio, who are indeed quite good. On the other hand, it doesn't mean PSG's strikers are bad but if we look at the current problem, they are still struggling in cohesiveness and some of them are still concerned with their own ego.

When you talk about trio, we have neymar-mbappe-messi trio at PSG. Obviously they didn't play too many minutes together with that three on the pitch, that is the main problem. However, when they did, they were just too good, and that is something important to consider. Yes, they do not have that many minutes together and failed to build a chemistry so far but when they are that talented, you put them against anyone and they are great.

Like that Messi goal against City for example, Mbappe knew how to pass exactly to where because he knows how Messi likes it, and we will see a lot of that if all three will be healthy and ready to play against Real Madrid when the time comes.

I never doubted these three players who were already unquestionable in their individual skills. but indeed the problem of ego and play which tends to prioritize their individualistic skills is still evident in some PSG matches and this could be a boomerang for them.
maybe there are some weaknesses in real madrid especially when they attack which often forgets their defense area but in terms of cohesiveness I still believe in the midfield and front line of Real madrid

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Quote from: RapTarX on January 29, 2022, 12:30:35 PM

Quote from: kassex on January 28, 2022, 02:47:47 PM

Madrid do not have a very strong squad for this level of play.

C'mon, Madrid has more than enough good team to qualify against PSG. I have to agree that PSG is quite good team; they are now a balanced one and determined to win the UCL but that doesn’t mean Real Madrid have no chance. Real Madrid deserves to win as well and I believe they will qualify.

It's very controversial, you see, this year both Real and PSG are very strong teams, one has strong new players, the other has a solid team that is winning and looking confident right now. I'm more interested to see how the former team captain Ramos will play, his transition surprised me back then. Both teams are equal and contenders to win, but who will win I can't even guess, tough choice

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Quote from: kassex on January 28, 2022, 02:47:47 PM

Madrid do not have a very strong squad for this level of play. Psg are more motivated to win, and they have a stronger squad than Madrid.They may be able to win the home game, but in the end, PSG will go to the next round.

Why do you think PSG has more motivation to win? Don't tell me it is because they have Messi? Although PSG has Messi, Neymar, and Mbappe in their attacking line, doesn't mean they will automatically win against Real Madrid. To win the match needs solid playing, all lines will have a contribution to lead the team winning or losing in the match. Even, in my opinion, the midfield line to have a more crucial role in this match. Which team thas has a better midfield and is more solid in playing? The answer is Real Madrid. So, don't judge PSG is stronger because they have more superstars, in reality they are difficult to play a solid team. For me, considering their current performance, Real Madrid is better than PSG. All the lines in Real Madrid performed quite well lately, they played as a team. While PSG, although they have many superstars, each superstar plays too individually and focuses on showing their own performance. So, I am sure Real Madrid beats PSG and qualified for the next round.

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Quote from: W Jr. on January 28, 2022, 07:03:06 AM

It will be a very difficult match. The offensive line of both teams is very good. I think we will watch two games with lots of goals. Now, whichever team scores more goals will be the side that passes the round. Real or Paris SG, it doesn't matter. A team will show their strength and the team that passes this elimination continues until the final. This is a match that can be played in the final. I am sure that all eyes will be on this match while the champions league qualifiers are played in the world.

That's right, I'm also looking forward to the round of 16 match for the Champions League this time because the two best teams will play really well in that round too and hopefully one of them can win even though personally I prefer the Real Madrid team to win that match in the 16th round of the Champions League later.

Honestly there is only like 2 weeks left and I can't wait. The games are all looking awesome. Yes Bayern vs Salzburg could be a boring game, but the other games are looking either close or at least close enough. United vs ATM? That's great, sure you can think one is better than the other if you want but it is "close enough" game, Ajax vs Benfica, close enough, Juventus vs Villareal, close enough, Chelsea vs Lille could be a big difference, Lille got the league last year but this year they suck so that could be boring, Liverpool is better than Inter but that is still close enough if you ask me, City is definitely much better than Lisbon, and the most famous PSG vs Madrid, that's amazing.

So, I would say only 3 matchups are not close enough, all the others are up for grabs and it will be amazing to watch them all unravel.

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Quote from: CLS63 on January 29, 2022, 02:51:23 PM

I see many people on the internet who underestimate Real Madrid a lot against PSG in this round. But they are wrong about thinking like that I believe. Because Real Madrid is not an easy-peasy target for them. On the contrary, I expect Real Madrid to even surprise PSG by showing an amazing performance in both games of the matchup. PSG can have big difficulties against them and it might not be easy for them even if they move Real Madrid out of this tournament. Benzema is having a great season and I expect him to be a dangerous threat to PSG.

it's very reasonable because at this time if we look at the statistics and betting estimates, of course PSG is superior, especially for the first leg later.
I feel that it was the effect of playing at home and the star players who were there that made this happen.
but on the other hand as you said, Real madrid is a strong team and indeed don't forget that real madrid is still the holder of the most trophies here.
even though a lot of people support PSG but I feel that being on the side of Real madrid of course it will be better

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Quote from: kassex on January 28, 2022, 02:47:47 PM

I think it will be difficult for Real Madrid to qualify for the next round of the Champions League. Despite their vast experience in the Champions League, Madrid do not have a very strong squad for this level of play. Psg are more motivated to win, and they have a stronger squad than Madrid.They may be able to win the home game, but in the end, PSG will go to the next round.

If you are so sure about this prediction then you can bet on PSG - the odds are very attractive. But in fact I would advise you to look deeper into the situation in both clubs, because although on paper PSG are stronger, they have big problems in order to collect all these "big" names in a single team (some are injured, some are not at their best form, etc.). Real Madrid are doing just fine in this regard.

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Madrid do not have a very strong squad for this level of play.

C'mon, Madrid has more than enough good team to qualify against PSG. I have to agree that PSG is quite good team; they are now a balanced one and determined to win the UCL but that doesn’t mean Real Madrid have no chance. Real Madrid deserves to win as well and I believe they will qualify.

Real Madrid is currently the Leader of La Liga. Don't be surprise if Madrid eventually win against PSG, because they have a strong squad which is capable of beating PSG. Madrid shouldn't be underestimated. Although, we all understand that PSG have top talented players in their squad, but that doesn't guarantee that Madrid can't basically penetrate them. Anyway, let wait patiently for the Matchday, and sees who gets qualified to the next round.

Compared to PSG, Real Madrid has really performed well seeing the history in the table. Real Madrid has own 5 out 6 matches but where as PSG Real Madrid own just 3 out of 6 matches as per UEFA Champions league table. I understand that PSG has few best players but yes on 16th Feb, its not going to much tougher for PSG but will see it on 16TH for Real Madrid

Well, PSG is investing a lot of money in their players in the past years... but still they can't win the Champions League! No doubt, there are strong names in the PSG team, and they are winning the games, but their defense is not on top! So against top teams like Real is they will have troubles, big ones...
I think that PSG can take the win here, I mean the first game at home so they have a little advantage, they will have to take it if they wish to have some chances in the next game in Madrid!

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I see many people on the internet who underestimate Real Madrid a lot against PSG in this round. But they are wrong about thinking like that I believe. Because Real Madrid is not an easy-peasy target for them. On the contrary, I expect Real Madrid to even surprise PSG by showing an amazing performance in both games of the matchup. PSG can have big difficulties against them and it might not be easy for them even if they move Real Madrid out of this tournament. Benzema is having a great season and I expect him to be a dangerous threat to PSG.

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Quote from: kassex on January 28, 2022, 02:47:47 PM

Madrid do not have a very strong squad for this level of play.

C'mon, Madrid has more than enough good team to qualify against PSG. I have to agree that PSG is quite good team; they are now a balanced one and determined to win the UCL but that doesn’t mean Real Madrid have no chance. Real Madrid deserves to win as well and I believe they will qualify.

Real Madrid is currently the Leader of La Liga. Don't be surprise if Madrid eventually win against PSG, because they have a strong squad which is capable of beating PSG. Madrid shouldn't be underestimated. Although, we all understand that PSG have top talented players in their squad, but that doesn't guarantee that Madrid can't basically penetrate them. Anyway, let wait patiently for the Matchday, and sees who gets qualified to the next round.

Compared to PSG, Real Madrid has really performed well seeing the history in the table. Real Madrid has own 5 out 6 matches but where as PSG Real Madrid own just 3 out of 6 matches as per UEFA Champions league table. I understand that PSG has few best players but yes on 16th Feb, its not going to much tougher for PSG but will see it on 16TH for Real Madrid

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Quote from: RapTarX on January 29, 2022, 12:30:35 PM

Quote from: kassex on January 28, 2022, 02:47:47 PM

Madrid do not have a very strong squad for this level of play.

C'mon, Madrid has more than enough good team to qualify against PSG. I have to agree that PSG is quite good team; they are now a balanced one and determined to win the UCL but that doesn’t mean Real Madrid have no chance. Real Madrid deserves to win as well and I believe they will qualify.

Real Madrid is currently the Leader of La Liga. Don't be surprise if Madrid eventually win against PSG, because they have a strong squad which is capable of beating PSG. Madrid shouldn't be underestimated. Although, we all understand that PSG have top talented players in their squad, but that doesn't guarantee that Madrid can't basically penetrate them. Anyway, let wait patiently for the Matchday, and sees who gets qualified to the next round.

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Quote from: Boristhecat on January 29, 2022, 06:02:17 AM

Most bettors look at names rather than their actual strength at the moment. Bookmakers look at the opinion of betters and give such odds to be profitable for any outcome. I read about this algorithm of work in a set of sources. Therefore, the predicted results very often have nothing to do with the real ones. I think after the first match there is a high probability that the favorite in this pair will change.

Only the initial odds are set by the bookmakers on various parameters. After that the odds are determined by the bettors. If more people bet on team A, then the odds of team B are automatically increased and those of team A are decreased by the algorithm. Thus, the odds are always a very good indicator of what the bettors think about the outcome of the match and not the bettor.

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Quote from: RapTarX on January 29, 2022, 12:30:35 PM

Quote from: kassex on January 28, 2022, 02:47:47 PM

Madrid do not have a very strong squad for this level of play.

C'mon, Madrid has more than enough good team to qualify against PSG. I have to agree that PSG is quite good team; they are now a balanced one and determined to win the UCL but that doesn’t mean Real Madrid have no chance. Real Madrid deserves to win as well and I believe they will qualify.

It is difficult to predict because in the current situation both teams are equally likely to win, but the record of the two teams meeting in various competitions Real Madrid is superior with three wins, compared to PSG with one win and two draws.
and PSG is currently full of star players and also has the material of the world's best players at the moment such as the trio of Messi, Mbappe, Neymar although it is not known whether he is played or not due to injury.
because I don't idolize both, so whoever wins I don't care. Grin

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Quote from: kassex on January 28, 2022, 02:47:47 PM

Madrid do not have a very strong squad for this level of play.

C'mon, Madrid has more than enough good team to qualify against PSG. I have to agree that PSG is quite good team; they are now a balanced one and determined to win the UCL but that doesn’t mean Real Madrid have no chance. Real Madrid deserves to win as well and I believe they will qualify.

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Quote from: kassex on January 28, 2022, 02:47:47 PM

I think it will be difficult for Real Madrid to qualify for the next round of the Champions League. Despite their vast experience in the Champions League, Madrid do not have a very strong squad for this level of play. Psg are more motivated to win, and they have a stronger squad than Madrid.They may be able to win the home game, but in the end, PSG will go to the next round.

I can agree with you that PSG has a stronger squad, but talking about them being more motivated, I'll have to disagree, PSG aren't even playing like a coherent team in the UCL just yet, and they didn't have an excellent group stage either, I know the CL is their ultimate goal, but just having a strong desire isn't enough, pochettino needs to work on the mentality of his boys, they just have to blend as a team if they are to have any chance of winning the CL.

Madrid on the other hand are favorites to win the tie, and also one of the favorites to win the CL, the combination between Benzema and V. Junior is working wonders, they look like a real team and more fired up to get the victory over PSG.

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Quote from: kassex on January 28, 2022, 02:47:47 PM

I think it will be difficult for Real Madrid to qualify for the next round of the Champions League. Despite their vast experience in the Champions League, Madrid do not have a very strong squad for this level of play. Psg are more motivated to win, and they have a stronger squad than Madrid.They may be able to win the home game, but in the end, PSG will go to the next round.

From their 6 meetings, Real Madrid have an advantage over Paris Saint-Germain, but this is a different situation. In the Champions League, I see Real Madrid is not an easy team to beat. They can always come back with a win.
They have a very good attack creator, moreover their counter attack is unquestionable. Although it won't be easy, I predict Real Madrid will come out victorious.

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Many local news media said that Neymar was not certain to play against Madrid in the first leg. I don't know for the second leg. Neymar's injury may be a blessing for Real Madrid. PSG's will be diminished. Maybe they will rely on Messi and Mbappe to beat Real Madrid. Psg's first leg will be played at PSG's parc de princes home. Interestingly Madrid will meet with Ramos. At least playing in France, Madrid should be able to steal a point for the 2nd leg. This match will be very exciting, of course, I can't wait to see it.

I don't think the absence of Neymar will affect Psg's performance. I mean, they have other big players like Messi and Mbappé who will be playing the game. And If they play more carefully in the game, they might also win against Real Madrid. Although, without doubt, the absence of Neymar will boost Madrid's morale about winning. However, it will certainly be a big fight between the two team in the first leg. Although, PSG is probably at advantage because it their home match.

In fact, it seems to me that PSG had better results when the big three, Messi, Mbappe and Neymar, did not play together. Grin

It's no secret that none of them three really like to play in defense and in a way it's always a problem for PSG when they play against top European teams in the Champions League.
This could very well be seen in the match between PSG and Manchester City last year.
Therefore, the absence of Neymar is probably not such bad news for PSG Grin

blackened515, In all honesty, I think PSG still has a pretty good chance, and the match will be really close. And in terms of goals, I think the match will have at least three goals. So I am expecting some fireworks from the forward of both the teams.

@Daniel91, All jokes aside I think that PSG should still play really well even though they don't have Neymar in their team for that match. I mean PSG doesn't have any shortage of star players. If you actually look at the stats then even I also think that Neymar being absent from that match might actually be a blessing in disguise too Wink

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Quote from: Luzin on January 28, 2022, 10:26:26 AM

Quote from: DU18 on January 28, 2022, 10:06:28 AM

The Champions League last 16 match is only two weeks away, and now it is reported that PSG are still monitoring Neymar condition to make sure he can play against Madrid later,

Many local news media said that Neymar was not certain to play against Madrid in the first leg. I don't know for the second leg. Neymar's injury may be a blessing for Real Madrid. PSG's will be diminished. Maybe they will rely on Messi and Mbappe to beat Real Madrid. Psg's first leg will be played at PSG's parc de princes home. Interestingly Madrid will meet with Ramos. At least playing in France, Madrid should be able to steal a point for the 2nd leg. This match will be very exciting, of course, I can't wait to see it.

Neymar's absence will be felt greatly. Neymar is one of the most important attacking players of Paris SG. He would have a great advantage on the field, especially in the Real Madrid match. However, his injury was an advantage for Real Madrid. Fortunately, the Paris SG squad is very good. The effect of this situation will be minimal. My favorite is Paris SG. But on the other hand, there is Real Madrid. These matches are not guaranteed. Both teams are among the greatest teams in the world.

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