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December 09, 2021, 02:20:14 PM
Atalanta - Villarreal game is going on very interestingly now. To be honest, I wasn't expecting Villarreal to have a this comfortable game against Atalanta in Italy. Even though the statistics of the teams are similar, Villarreal are 3-0 ahead now. It looks like Atalanta are going to say goodbye. And it is going to be by a big defeat. A team like Atalanta should have played better than this in this critical game.
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December 09, 2021, 02:00:44 PM
Atalanta 0 - 2 Villarreal

I stopped watching the game, Atalanta doesn't have any chance of winning that game, they don't have space to play and Villarreal is scoring goals without making any effort and as if Villarreal a bad team in the la liga, were playing against a team of the third division of spain.
Not over yet, there is whole second half to play and if any team can turn this around it is Atalanta. It's not like they did not have their chances to score, they just need a bit more luck and more resolve in final third. Hope for a cracking second half and one early goal from Atalanta to really open it up. Would be nice for my both to score bet as well so I don't need to sweat until the end.
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December 09, 2021, 01:52:23 PM
Atalanta 0 - 2 Villarreal

I stopped watching the game, Atalanta doesn't have any chance of winning that game, they don't have space to play and Villarreal is scoring goals without making any effort and as if Villarreal a bad team in the la liga, were playing against a team of the third division of spain.



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December 09, 2021, 01:46:10 PM
What happened to Ronaldo from Man Utd. He was not seen in the match. The match was not much spicy to enjoy but yes the first goal from Greenwood of Man Utd was really unexpected. It just happened at a sudden. A lovely kick on his left leg to the goal. Was really awesome. MATA has a chance to goal but he missed it. Rieder from Young Boys just made use of the opportunity came into, yes Man Utd messed up in passing, but yes Rieder just picked it up and shot to the goal. Was awesome. Both team missed one more chance for scoring a goal each.
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December 09, 2021, 01:32:07 PM
Atalanta Vs Villarreal is currently on, and the game is getting more interesting. Atalanta have to win the game to secure a place at the next round. Villarreal is not a weak team, and Atalanta have to play more carefully to avoid losing. However, Villarreal scored 3 minutes into the first half, and are presently leading with a goal. Nevertheless, Villarreal is the most favorite in the game, because if they draw the match, they will surely get qualified to round 16. Anyways, Let see how it ends.
The score will definitely change this is only the first half and it's not over yet I think Atalanta can return the goal to Villareal, playing focus is very important at this time possession of the ball is still in Atalanta's control there is a possibility that this will be rewarded and more goals can happen of course Villareal will not stand still even if it gets more depressed it will continue to last and will not provide any gaps for Atalanta.
The two of them are still quite able to attack each other.
Villareal scoring firs and lead on 29 minutes with goal created by Arnaut Danjuma on 3rd minutes, final match this because Atlanta need to to win if want pass to champion league next stage. Serie A team and La Liga right now very bad because left only two team have pass next stage for La Liga like Madrid and Atletico Madrid after Barcelona for the first time failed in group stage. Serie A only give special for Juventus and AC Milan success lead to the next stage but Atlanta not really have chance.
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December 09, 2021, 01:28:22 PM
Atalanta Vs Villarreal is currently on, and the game is getting more interesting. Atalanta have to win the game to secure a place at the next round. Villarreal is not a weak team, and Atalanta have to play more carefully to avoid losing. However, Villarreal scored 3 minutes into the first half, and are presently leading with a goal. Nevertheless, Villarreal is the most favorite in the game, because if they draw the match, they will surely get qualified to round 16. Anyways, Let see how it ends.
The score will definitely change this is only the first half and it's not over yet I think Atalanta can return the goal to Villareal, playing focus is very important at this time possession of the ball is still in Atalanta's control there is a possibility that this will be rewarded and more goals can happen of course Villareal will not stand still even if it gets more depressed it will continue to last and will not provide any gaps for Atalanta.
The two of them are still quite able to attack each other.
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December 09, 2021, 01:26:59 PM
At this point, all that remains is to define the last spot in Group F, between Atalanta and Villarreal. The meeting was postponed to today in Bergamo, due to heavy snowfall in the city.

The teams already supported:

Seeds (group winners)
- Manchester City (group A)
- Liverpool (group B)
- Ajax (group C)
- Real Madrid (group D)
- Bayern Munich (group E)
- Manchester United (group F)
- Juventus (Group H)
- Lille (G)

Not seeded (2nd place in the group)
- Paris SG (group A)
- Atletic Madrid (group B)
- Sporting (group C)
- Inter Milan (group D
- Benfica (group E)
- Villarreal or Atalanta (group F)
- Chelsea (group H)
- Salzburg (group G)

Seeded teams look so much stronger than non-seeded teams that it seems like they are a collection of teams from different tournaments (eg Champions League and Europa League). In fact, only Lille, PSG and Chelsea are not in their places. Judging by the formal balance of power, most of the unseeded teams should be eliminated in the first round of the playoffs.

I think that, regardless of the opponent, it is already possible to determine 4 participants in the quarter-finals in the Champions League: Liverpool, Manchester City, Chelsea and Bayern. The remaining 4 places are claimed by Real Madrid, Ajax, PSG, Juventus and possibly Atletico Madrid. Here, however, everything will depend on the opponent.
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December 09, 2021, 01:16:57 PM
Atalanta Vs Villarreal is currently on, and the game is getting more interesting. Atalanta have to win the game to secure a place at the next round. Villarreal is not a weak team, and Atalanta have to play more carefully to avoid losing. However, Villarreal scored 3 minutes into the first half, and are presently leading with a goal. Nevertheless, Villarreal is the most favorite in the game, because if they draw the match, they will surely get qualified to round 16. Anyways, Let see how it ends.
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December 09, 2021, 01:09:52 PM
What a goal by Arnaut Danjuma! He gave Villarreal the lead with a goal in just 3 minutes. Since Villarreal can only draw the match to advance to the next round, and they are now 1-0 up. They do not seem to be taking any more risks. Villarreal will play completely defensive. Despite a 1-1 draw, Villarreal could finish second in the table.
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December 09, 2021, 01:08:22 PM
Agreed. I also can't believe that Chelsea failed big time to secure their lead. Zenit weren't a team that they wouldn't be able to beat. They beat Zenit by 1-0 before and they scored even three goals in the match today. But the real problem was related to defending. I still don't understand how Zenit managed to score the same goals. Chelsea just gave away their lead to Juventus.
I watch the game just first half, I saw how effective Zenit are on the counter-attack, Zenit's have a chance to make the scores 3-1 just in first half but they failed to do that. Early goal from Timo made Chelsea seem stronger but Zenit played really well.
Agree with you defence is Chelsea problem especially in first half.
Chelsea are running out of steam. I wont be surprise if they lose to Leeds this weekend. Their performance against Zenit was too inconsistent. Good start, sloppy in the rest of first half, good comeback in second half and sloppy again in the end. This is not going to work. Top teams like Chelsea must play with the same intensity throughout every game. The moment they take the lead then they will start playing the balls backwards and relax and they will also stop defending. Look at the third goal they conceded, nobody was closing the player down. Caesar was watching, James was nowhere to be found. Some players are not up to the task. I think Thomas Tuchel’s starting selection has been shaky recently.

I agree with you that chelsea is losing focus, and also i will go a few games without betting on games involving chelsea due to this problem they have been having, in the past premier league game they did the same thing, i will not be surprised if they tie against leeds



Atalanta - Villarreal

2 minutes played and atalanta is losing   Shocked
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December 09, 2021, 11:50:54 AM
It was already obvious before the match that Barcelona would lose it. And they did by a big score like 3-0. Barcelona's current condition is not good enough to beat teams like Bayern Munich in home or away matches for now. They must improve their game a lot to talk about that probability. They don't belong to the Champions League for now and they are already eliminated from it too.

Was nt obvious because Bayern only played Tolisso in MC who has barely played all year and poor on the ball/turn. Sule is also poor on ball so you could have used that to your advantage but fell off pressing due to Bayern overloading the AM area.
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December 09, 2021, 11:41:07 AM
Manchester United ran out in a completely changed lineup. I am glad I waited until I saw the team sheets. After looking at them, my bets went on Bayern and Benfica, and no money was wasted on Manchester United. I am sure they caused havoc for many gamblers last night.   
I should have gone with Bayern as well, but I thought Barca needs this much more so they will at least score one goal, so I went with both to score. It is not like Bayern has iron defense, they are usually playing to score few goals more than opponents and even week team in Germany often slip a goal or two against them.

Chelsea really screwed big time yesterday. You can't let Juve get that top spot in last game. Yes you managed to rotate a squad a little but this probably means much harder opponent in first knockout stage. But then again they are good enough to win against anybody so maybe they did not care. I am sure nobody from group winners pot wants to see their name drawn with Chelsea.

Like you, I bet both to score in Bayern - Barcelona game but at least I get the win on another parlay. It's true that at some point Barca will eventually recover but that won't be against Bayern.
Once more, Man Utd proves that you can't trust them and bet on them, only against them. My X2 pays out as Benfica's easy win. I wonder though why the fans wave white handkerchiefs. As far as I know, it's a sign of dissatisfaction. Undecided
As for Chelsea, it was indeed a hit but TBH I wasn't surprised and I just stay away. Tuchel needed to make a rotation, they have no pressure regarding qualifying to the next round, and for sure can win any team (if they sustain their performance).
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December 09, 2021, 11:25:59 AM
Atalanta are going to be playing a home game vs Villarreal today. And this is going to be the end for one of these teams in the Champions League. Villarreal are more advantageous now as we see them one point ahead. But Atalanta are a very capable team and this is a home game for them. They can win this if they give their everything. But if I bet on this game, I would choose both teams to score.
Atalanta is favorite for obvious reason but considering the strength and the odd for Vilareal (4.50), I will go with Villareal to win & both team to score. I guess the odd is quite good though it's an away match. If Villareal can score a goal first, I believe they will be able to not conceding a goal. I will win either of the bet  Cheesy
The Atalanta vs Villarreal match is predicted to be fierce and tense because both have the same goal of qualifying for the round of 16, Villarreal only need a draw to qualify for the next round. and Atalanta must win to qualify for the next round.
looks like Atlanta will play hard and play attacking and will field their best squad because victory is mandatory for him and for both teams this is a crucial match and will be very interesting to watch.
looks like the score will be slim and depending on the defense of both teams, Atlanta is the host and I bet on him. Wink
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December 09, 2021, 11:24:07 AM
At this point, all that remains is to define the last spot in Group F, between Atalanta and Villarreal. The meeting was postponed to today in Bergamo, due to heavy snowfall in the city.

The teams already supported:

Seeds (group winners)
- Manchester City (group A)
- Liverpool (group B)
- Ajax (group C)
- Real Madrid (group D)
- Bayern Munich (group E)
- Manchester United (group F)
- Juventus (Group H)
- Lille (G)

Not seeded (2nd place in the group)
- Paris SG (group A)
- Atletic Madrid (group B)
- Sporting (group C)
- Inter Milan (group D
- Benfica (group E)
- Villarreal or Atalanta (group F)
- Chelsea (group H)
- Salzburg (group G)

Seeded teams look so much stronger than non-seeded teams that it seems like they are a collection of teams from different tournaments (eg Champions League and Europa League). In fact, only Lille, PSG and Chelsea are not in their places. Judging by the formal balance of power, most of the unseeded teams should be eliminated in the first round of the playoffs.
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December 09, 2021, 11:12:36 AM
Villarreal and Atalanta over 2.5?

The odds of over 2.5 for this match is around 1.7, so it is worth the risk and reasonable enough to place.
Atalanta need a win to qualify for the round of 16, so they will play offensively to score goals.
On the other side, Villareal is also motivated to go further and a draw is enough for them but I do not think they will play with bus parking strategies.
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December 09, 2021, 11:01:06 AM
This was the expected result. There is no hope that Barcelona will win. But they had the ability to draw. But they have shown very lightning performance. Their defense was very messy. The defense needed to be more stable before performing against a strong team. However, given Barcelona's poor performances since last season, it was only natural that they would not qualify for the next round of the Champions League.
I have also predicted that Barcelona will not qualify for the next round in UCL, the club is not good to that extent. Benfica won the club is a chance while Dynamo Kyiv has been so poor. I know Bayern will not mind they have qualified for the next round and mercilessly won Barcelona. This has never happened in many years but happened that Barcelona is finally missing UCL next round. Not only this, also that next year is becoming impossible for Barcelona to be among the clubs that will qualify for Champions League.

Barcelona have played 6 matches in the Champions League and managed to score only 2 goals. They conceded 9 goals. Barcelona scored two goals against Dynamo Kyve. I would say Barcelona have ruined the beauty of the Champions League this season. Hopefully they will prepare themselves better for next season. In particular, if Countinho, Dembele and Depay had performed their duties properly, Barcelona's performance would have been even greater.
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December 09, 2021, 10:59:11 AM
the group stage is now over (in group f there is still the catch-up match bergamo - villarreal today) and there were 3 clubs that won all their 6 matches - fc liverpool, ajax amsterdam and bayern munich walked away victorious after every game.
Sebastien Heller (ajax) leads the scoring list with 10 goals, followed by R. Lewandowski with 9 goals.
the draw for the 1/8-final games will take place on monday, december 13
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December 09, 2021, 10:54:45 AM
Atalanta are going to be playing a home game vs Villarreal today. And this is going to be the end for one of these teams in the Champions League. Villarreal are more advantageous now as we see them one point ahead. But Atalanta are a very capable team and this is a home game for them. They can win this if they give their everything. But if I bet on this game, I would choose both teams to score.
Atalanta is favorite for obvious reason but considering the strength and the odd for Vilareal (4.50), I will go with Villareal to win & both team to score. I guess the odd is quite good though it's an away match. If Villareal can score a goal first, I believe they will be able to not conceding a goal. I will win either of the bet  Cheesy
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December 09, 2021, 10:50:11 AM
I doubt though that Barca can make some good transfers because they have 1,35 Billion € of debts, so there is no way that they can just buy a few good players, they have to rely on their own youth players.
It is reasonable to expect Barcelona to work with big investors from Arab countries just to improve the quality of the team again in the following seasons. I don't know what scenario they will do to improve the quality of the team which is currently starting to fade due to the generational transition. They could count on the academy players, but it definitely wasn't enough.

Xavi will not be able to change the quality of Barcelona as easily as we imagine, Barcelona does have to sacrifice big costs for the quality of a team that can be relied on again in big European competitions such as the Champions League. I know he will greatly influence the team's style of play, but without someone who is an expert in scoring goals in the team, it will be very difficult to win.
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December 09, 2021, 10:47:18 AM
What a stressful matchday it was for the three teams (Milan, Porto, Atletico Madrid) in the Group B. After a great fight in each of the matches, Atletico Madrid stayed as a survivor in the Champions League. And Milan are the most unprofitable team now as they neither go to the next round nor to the Europa League. We will see what kind of a matchup Atletico Madrid will have next.
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