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December 01, 2021, 02:51:50 PM
I can see that the Group G is also in an interesting condition now. The current look of the standings is like this:

1. Lille - 8 pts
2. Salzburg - 7 pts
3. Sevilla - 6 pts
4. Wolfsburg - 5 pts

The first two teams have two wins and the others have only one win. And there is still a chance for even Wolfsburg to promote to the next stage. Because they have a game in their stadium against Lille. If they win, they can promote as far as I can see the stats. It is weird to see Sevilla at the third place in a group like this. They are the most powerful team here. And I think that they can win vs Salzburg in the last game.
The competition in Group G is very interesting and no team can be certain of qualifying at this time due to the sufficient difference in points between the 1st place and 4th ranked team. currently, if they manage to draw Wolfsburg, they can certainly qualify for the round of 16 regardless of the outcome of the match between Salzburg versus Sevilla. Match between Salzburg versus Sevilla is also a decisive match for both teams if they want to qualify from the group phase, Salzburg is enough to get a draw if in other matches Lille is able to win or draw with Wolfsburg.
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December 01, 2021, 02:00:43 PM
Bayern can destroy Barcelona again. They are stronger than Barcelona is a first reason, and a second reason is Barcelona still have issues with their whole system as well as their defense. Bayern are showing that they have some weaknesses that can be compromised by other clubs but I don't believe Barcelona can do it with what they have now.

For Barcelona to win the game, Bayern must play very badly. Even players who normally sit on Bayern bench are playing better than Barcelona best starter.
Now, of course there can be surprises, and it wouldn't be the first time.

Even so, I think it will be difficult for Barcelona to beat Bayern (even if Bayer saves players, which I doubt).
For Bayern, it's even possible to eliminate Barcelona from the competition. You never know if they don't recover and beyond the competition things will get more difficult if they find each other again.
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December 01, 2021, 12:52:11 PM
Interesting odds before the final round:



This surprises me very much. Atlético has obvious chances to advance to the next stage - why such a strange odds?
These odd indicating their current form which is worst in recent Champions League matches as they lost against Liverpool at home and away games and then lost against AC Milan at home they already have draw against Porto so probably most people's feeling now in away game they have very few chances of win and having to be in knock out stage where Porto is clearly favorite even they are playing draw against them at home on other side peoples feeling it's not easy for AC Milan to beat Liverpool at home with 100% record in Champions League.

But these all are just predictions and personal views still many things possible like AC Milan can lose at home and Atlético Madrid can win to go through now we have very few days all outcomes will happen in front of us lets wait and watch. Cheesy Grin.
In fact, I would not say that Atlético is in some particularly bad shape - they play their usual dull football, but it gives a result (in the Spanish Championship they are only 3 points behind Real). In the Champions League, they are less successful, but their competitors also cannot boast of anything. In fact, Atlético only needs one win and Porto does not seem to be an invincible team in this situation, so I think the odds at Atlético are distorted.

Although Atletico Madrid are not a weak team, their performance in the Champions League is poor. They have scored 4 points in 5 matches. I can't call their performance a good performance in such a situation. However, the situation is similar in Porto and AC MIlan in their group. Liverpool have qualified for the next round. Now the team that wins the next match will be able to qualify for the next round.
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December 01, 2021, 12:41:39 PM
Interesting odds before the final round:



This surprises me very much. Atlético has obvious chances to advance to the next stage - why such a strange odds?
These odd indicating their current form which is worst in recent Champions League matches as they lost against Liverpool at home and away games and then lost against AC Milan at home they already have draw against Porto so probably most people's feeling now in away game they have very few chances of win and having to be in knock out stage where Porto is clearly favorite even they are playing draw against them at home on other side peoples feeling it's not easy for AC Milan to beat Liverpool at home with 100% record in Champions League.

But these all are just predictions and personal views still many things possible like AC Milan can lose at home and Atlético Madrid can win to go through now we have very few days all outcomes will happen in front of us lets wait and watch. Cheesy Grin.
In fact, I would not say that Atlético is in some particularly bad shape - they play their usual dull football, but it gives a result (in the Spanish Championship they are only 3 points behind Real). In the Champions League, they are less successful, but their competitors also cannot boast of anything. In fact, Atlético only needs one win and Porto does not seem to be an invincible team in this situation, so I think the odds at Atlético are distorted.
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December 01, 2021, 11:49:07 AM
Barcelona is in a very difficult situation now and no longer depends only on itself but also on other clubs.
For Bayern, the match with Barcelona means nothing in terms of results and their coach may decide to rest some key players and thus maybe help Barcelona.
Bayern can destroy Barcelona again. They are stronger than Barcelona is a first reason, and a second reason is Barcelona still have issues with their whole system as well as their defense. Bayern are showing that they have some weaknesses that can be compromised by other clubs but I don't believe Barcelona can do it with what they have now.
even though barcelona's performance is currently improving, but indeed bayern is above them and even though victory or defeat when bayern meets barcelona doesn't mean anything but I don't think they want to be soft and lose just like that.
The decisive match for Barcelona and Bayern is unlikely to lose because of this.
I think it will be exciting whether Barcelona can progress smoothly or do they have to settle for losing again and hope that Benfica will also lose to kiyv.
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December 01, 2021, 11:30:39 AM
The Group B is really tense now. Liverpool have won all of their games so far and their position is very comfortable. The real competition is going on between Milan, Atletico Madrid and Porto. These teams all still have a chance to advance. The last games are: Milan v Liverpool, Porto v Atletico Madrid. I'm favoring Milan and Atletico in these games. Liverpool are already safe and they wouldn't make a big effort in this game I guess. Milan would benefit from this chance and defeat them. They made Liverpool big difficulties before too. And Atletico Madrid are powerful enough to defeat Porto. Maybe their previous game ended up with a 0-0 draw but I don't expect a similar thing to happen again.
Its not really about who needs the point most between Liverpool and Milan its a game of who controls the ball best and who makes better use of their chances. Both Milan and Liverpool either of the team would win. I will get two slips for the match then predict a straight win for Athletico Madrid even though it wouldn't be too easy playing against porto

@diderdrogba  I think that your prediction is correct and Liverpool will just take things easy as they have already qualified so that might just benefit Milan and they might get a win. And about Atletico Madrid vs Porto, I think that Atletico Madrid is a strong enough team to beat Porto. As Atletico Madrid shared points last time I think they will be motivated to win this time.
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December 01, 2021, 11:02:39 AM
Barcelona is in a very difficult situation now and no longer depends only on itself but also on other clubs.
For Bayern, the match with Barcelona means nothing in terms of results and their coach may decide to rest some key players and thus maybe help Barcelona.
Bayern can destroy Barcelona again. They are stronger than Barcelona is a first reason, and a second reason is Barcelona still have issues with their whole system as well as their defense. Bayern are showing that they have some weaknesses that can be compromised by other clubs but I don't believe Barcelona can do it with what they have now.

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This is a key game of the season for Barcelona because if they fail to win second place in the group and continue to compete in the Champions League, it will be a huge psychological and financial shock for the whole club.
Realistically, the Europa League is a second-class and less important competition, which big clubs generally want to avoid if they can.
It is vital point for Barcelona. They must do their best to be qualified as a second club in this group. If they fail and have to be delegated to Europa League, that will be a nightmare for future of their finance. Their finance is very bad after Bartomeu presidency and Laporta so far can not fix it. So a good income from Champions League can help them to prevent worse finance and terrible collapse.
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December 01, 2021, 10:59:15 AM
I can see that the Group G is also in an interesting condition now. The current look of the standings is like this:

1. Lille - 8 pts
2. Salzburg - 7 pts
3. Sevilla - 6 pts
4. Wolfsburg - 5 pts

The first two teams have two wins and the others have only one win. And there is still a chance for even Wolfsburg to promote to the next stage. Because they have a game in their stadium against Lille. If they win, they can promote as far as I can see the stats. It is weird to see Sevilla at the third place in a group like this. They are the most powerful team here. And I think that they can win vs Salzburg in the last game.
Whoever wins in this group there is a possibility of qualifying for the next round which is very interesting for me is the points are consecutive from 5 to 8 so this last match can be anxious for them to keep winning.
It looks like Lille has a great chance to win with Wolfsburg and Salzburg vs Sevilla will be an important match with a narrow point difference.
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December 01, 2021, 10:31:22 AM
After a 0-0 draw against Benfica which they could have won now Barcelona are in a very difficult situation, and Barcelona must win in their last game against Bayern Munich to ensure qualification for the last 16.
and it seems everyone can judge the performance of both teams during the match who is the best and Bayern Munich will be the favourites, and besides they will still field their best squad which I think Barcelona will be difficult to win even for a draw it seems not easy.
it looks like Benfica will accompany Bayern Munich who won Group E to the last 16 because Benfica against Dynamo Kiev will definitely win.
Barcelona is in a very difficult situation now and no longer depends only on itself but also on other clubs.
For Bayern, the match with Barcelona means nothing in terms of results and their coach may decide to rest some key players and thus maybe help Barcelona.
This is a key game of the season for Barcelona because if they fail to win second place in the group and continue to compete in the Champions League, it will be a huge psychological and financial shock for the whole club.
Realistically, the Europa League is a second-class and less important competition, which big clubs generally want to avoid if they can.

I really want Barcelona to win this match but considering their opponent is going to be Bayern Munich, I think they will face enough problems in this match. And I also don't think that Bayern will rest any of their key players, because I have seen Bayern Munich play their main squad against a really inferior team. So I think this is my feeling about the loss for Barcelona if something magical does not happen.
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December 01, 2021, 10:18:50 AM
The Group B is really tense now. Liverpool have won all of their games so far and their position is very comfortable. The real competition is going on between Milan, Atletico Madrid and Porto. These teams all still have a chance to advance. The last games are: Milan v Liverpool, Porto v Atletico Madrid. I'm favoring Milan and Atletico in these games. Liverpool are already safe and they wouldn't make a big effort in this game I guess. Milan would benefit from this chance and defeat them. They made Liverpool big difficulties before too. And Atletico Madrid are powerful enough to defeat Porto. Maybe their previous game ended up with a 0-0 draw but I don't expect a similar thing to happen again.
Its not really about who needs the point most between Liverpool and Milan its a game of who controls the ball best and who makes better use of their chances. Both Milan and Liverpool either of the team would win. I will get two slips for the match then predict a straight win for Athletico Madrid even though it wouldn't be too easy playing against porto
What your prediction between Milan versus Liverpool which one will win if you? I think you prefer choose and predict Milan will win but I disagree because Liverpool want to create perfect on stage group by winning on all match, now Liverpool success win on five match and left one match with Milan, first leg on Anfield Milan success made Liverpool working hard before final score is 3-2 for Liverpool winning, but second leg I think the same Liverpool can defeat AC Milan maybe with three goals.
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December 01, 2021, 10:12:41 AM
I can see that the Group G is also in an interesting condition now. The current look of the standings is like this:

1. Lille - 8 pts
2. Salzburg - 7 pts
3. Sevilla - 6 pts
4. Wolfsburg - 5 pts

The first two teams have two wins and the others have only one win. And there is still a chance for even Wolfsburg to promote to the next stage. Because they have a game in their stadium against Lille. If they win, they can promote as far as I can see the stats. It is weird to see Sevilla at the third place in a group like this. They are the most powerful team here. And I think that they can win vs Salzburg in the last game.
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December 01, 2021, 08:47:25 AM
Barcelona are in a really troubling situation now in their group. Maybe they are still at the second position but they are only two points ahead of Benfica before the last matches. Benfica would defeat D. Kyiv easily most probably as D. Kyiv have no aim left in the CL. In that situation, Barcelona will have to defeat Bayern Munich away. Barcelona have started recovering as of Xavi's coming and they have made some changes in their game plan. But I wonder if Bayern Munich will let them win even though they are the leader of the group for certain.

Barca got themselves into the situation by drawing against Benfica. Had they won, they would have already qualified for the next round. Now they have to win against Bayern. Even a draw would not be enough if Benfica wins against Kiev, because then they would be equal on points, but in the direct comparison Barca would have the disadvantage.
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December 01, 2021, 07:18:09 AM
Barcelona are in a really troubling situation now in their group. Maybe they are still at the second position but they are only two points ahead of Benfica before the last matches. Benfica would defeat D. Kyiv easily most probably as D. Kyiv have no aim left in the CL. In that situation, Barcelona will have to defeat Bayern Munich away. Barcelona have started recovering as of Xavi's coming and they have made some changes in their game plan. But I wonder if Bayern Munich will let them win even though they are the leader of the group for certain.
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December 01, 2021, 06:13:21 AM
Barcelona are facing a difficult situation, it will be tough for them to beat Bayern Munich and even draw is quite doubtful, they don't have good stats away with Bayern and that was when they still have the best squad. Bad results at the start of the season make them very likely to be eliminated from the UCL this season.
After a 0-0 draw against Benfica which they could have won now Barcelona are in a very difficult situation, and Barcelona must win in their last game against Bayern Munich to ensure qualification for the last 16.

and it seems everyone can judge the performance of both teams during the match who is the best and Bayern Munich will be the favourites, and besides they will still field their best squad which I think Barcelona will be difficult to win even for a draw it seems not easy.
it looks like Benfica will accompany Bayern Munich who won Group E to the last 16 because Benfica against Dynamo Kiev will definitely win.

Barcelona is in a very difficult situation now and no longer depends only on itself but also on other clubs.
For Bayern, the match with Barcelona means nothing in terms of results and their coach may decide to rest some key players and thus maybe help Barcelona.
This is a key game of the season for Barcelona because if they fail to win second place in the group and continue to compete in the Champions League, it will be a huge psychological and financial shock for the whole club.
Realistically, the Europa League is a second-class and less important competition, which big clubs generally want to avoid if they can.
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December 01, 2021, 06:02:22 AM
The Group B is really tense now. Liverpool have won all of their games so far and their position is very comfortable. The real competition is going on between Milan, Atletico Madrid and Porto. These teams all still have a chance to advance. The last games are: Milan v Liverpool, Porto v Atletico Madrid. I'm favoring Milan and Atletico in these games. Liverpool are already safe and they wouldn't make a big effort in this game I guess. Milan would benefit from this chance and defeat them. They made Liverpool big difficulties before too. And Atletico Madrid are powerful enough to defeat Porto. Maybe their previous game ended up with a 0-0 draw but I don't expect a similar thing to happen again.
Its not really about who needs the point most between Liverpool and Milan its a game of who controls the ball best and who makes better use of their chances. Both Milan and Liverpool either of the team would win. I will get two slips for the match then predict a straight win for Athletico Madrid even though it wouldn't be too easy playing against porto
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December 01, 2021, 05:00:18 AM
The Group B is really tense now. Liverpool have won all of their games so far and their position is very comfortable. The real competition is going on between Milan, Atletico Madrid and Porto. These teams all still have a chance to advance. The last games are: Milan v Liverpool, Porto v Atletico Madrid. I'm favoring Milan and Atletico in these games. Liverpool are already safe and they wouldn't make a big effort in this game I guess. Milan would benefit from this chance and defeat them. They made Liverpool big difficulties before too. And Atletico Madrid are powerful enough to defeat Porto. Maybe their previous game ended up with a 0-0 draw but I don't expect a similar thing to happen again.
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December 01, 2021, 04:58:15 AM
Barcelona are facing a difficult situation, it will be tough for them to beat Bayern Munich and even draw is quite doubtful, they don't have good stats away with Bayern and that was when they still have the best squad. Bad results at the start of the season make them very likely to be eliminated from the UCL this season.
After a 0-0 draw against Benfica which they could have won now Barcelona are in a very difficult situation, and Barcelona must win in their last game against Bayern Munich to ensure qualification for the last 16.

and it seems everyone can judge the performance of both teams during the match who is the best and Bayern Munich will be the favourites, and besides they will still field their best squad which I think Barcelona will be difficult to win even for a draw it seems not easy.
it looks like Benfica will accompany Bayern Munich who won Group E to the last 16 because Benfica against Dynamo Kiev will definitely win.
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December 01, 2021, 04:38:50 AM
Barcelona are facing a difficult situation, it will be tough for them to beat Bayern Munich and even draw is quite doubtful, they don't have good stats away with Bayern and that was when they still have the best squad. Bad results at the start of the season make them very likely to be eliminated from the UCL this season.

Barcelona have a life and death match to determine their qualification this season, and they must win against bayern munchen later in the final match of the group phase,  I think facing bayern münchen is not an easy job for barcelona this season, although bayern münchen already have a ticket to qualified but of course they don't want to be humiliated at home later, so surely Bayern Munich will also at least play as usual to maintain their perfect record later.
BTW, I heard the news that later matches will be played in Germany without spectators, including the match between Bayern Munich and Barcelona which will be threatened without spectators, because the German authorities said they would again tighten the regulations due to the corona pandemic which is increasing in the country.
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December 01, 2021, 04:25:37 AM
Interesting odds before the final round:



This surprises me very much. Atlético has obvious chances to advance to the next stage - why such a strange odds?
These odd indicating their current form which is worst in recent Champions League matches as they lost against Liverpool at home and away games and then lost against AC Milan at home they already have draw against Porto so probably most people's feeling now in away game they have very few chances of win and having to be in knock out stage where Porto is clearly favorite even they are playing draw against them at home on other side peoples feeling it's not easy for AC Milan to beat Liverpool at home with 100% record in Champions League.

But these all are just predictions and personal views still many things possible like AC Milan can lose at home and Atlético Madrid can win to go through now we have very few days all outcomes will happen in front of us lets wait and watch. Cheesy Grin.
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December 01, 2021, 03:24:41 AM
In fact, I hope Liverpool will continue to appear with their main players, apart from the match against Milan there will be no effect at all because Liverpool's 15 points cannot be pursued by other teams. If Liverpool beat Milan the match between Porto versus Atletico Madrid is a game that is quite important like a final, whoever wins will qualify for the next round.

This will be difficult because their performance is very much different, Especially if we look at AC Milan's last 5 matches in all competitions, They can only win the match against athletico and after that nothing else. In contrast to the Liverpool match which is so overpowered.
I myself really doubt they beat Liverpool in this match.
Basically Liverpool must prioritize the EPL for now, because in the UCL Liverpool have definitely qualified. If later against Milan, Liverpool is still targeting 3 points, then obviously Liverpool prefers to prioritize their prestige in the UCL which I don't think is important for now. Because after all, after Milan was able to win away yesterday against Atlético, at least Milan again has hope of being able to qualify and so also in the last match against Liverpool of course Milan will fight hard to win at the San Siro.
Even though Liverpool's priority is currently in the EPL because the competition there is still fierce and their position is still not safe when compared to the UCL table, but I don't think Liverpool will want to come to the Giuseppe Meazza which is thousands of miles away hoping to lose.
I think even if they play the second tier and make some of their core players on the bench, but they will at least be able to make a draw and even win is very possible.
The Premier League is the most competitive competition today and all teams from the Premier League are group winners in the champions league. Manchester City managed to come out as winners of group A beating PSG, then Liverpool even won 5 wins in 5 champions league matches and became champions in group B, leaving only Chelsea and Manchester United who had already qualified for the round of 16 to determine the group winners in their last match. - each team.
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