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November 09, 2021, 02:05:15 PM
Dortmund's remaining games are like this: Sporting (A) and Besiktas (H). And Sporting's remaining games are like this: Dortmund (H) and Ajax (A). Considering these fixtures, Dortmund have an easier fixture ahead. Sporting game could be hard but getting even one point can be enough for Dortmund. Because I think that they can destroy Besiktas in Signal Iduna Park. Let's say Sporting drew with Dortmund. They will have another very tough game. Ajax are the best team of the group now. Their performance so far is really huge. So, Dortmund have a bigger chance to qualify for the next round.
Dortmund put themselves into a dangerous situation in this group but I believe at the end, they will manage to go through it. They will highly complete in second position, after Ajax and go next.

It's hard to say a second position is good because they might meet strong opponent in next round. Teams with first positions will be given seed tickets for the next Round and most of them are giants in the Europe. Dortmund don't want to meet them too soon.

I only wonder that how far Dortmund will reach to but don't wonder that whether they will go next.
I doubt Dortmund can actually make it through the group stage, it's still tough for them, Sporting won't let go without a fight and they still have a match with in Lisbon so keep that in mind, that match is the key to the next stage, but I think Sporting can do it and qualify instead of Dortmund, don't underestimate Sporting.

Dortmund's 1-4 defeat to Ajax Amsterdam on matchday four last week might be a bit tough for Dortmund especially considering they have to face Sporting Lisbon on matchday 5 of the Champions League this season where we know Sporting Lisbon also don't want to lose points. at their home, moreover both of them also collect 6 points from the 4 matches they have played.but in terms of sporting experience Lisbon is still far behind Borussia Dortmund in the blue continent football scene, the meeting of the two is very interesting for us to look forward to because this we can say it's a life-and-death struggle between the two teams to advance to the next round even though with one match remaining
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November 09, 2021, 12:37:44 PM
Dortmund's remaining games are like this: Sporting (A) and Besiktas (H). And Sporting's remaining games are like this: Dortmund (H) and Ajax (A). Considering these fixtures, Dortmund have an easier fixture ahead. Sporting game could be hard but getting even one point can be enough for Dortmund. Because I think that they can destroy Besiktas in Signal Iduna Park. Let's say Sporting drew with Dortmund. They will have another very tough game. Ajax are the best team of the group now. Their performance so far is really huge. So, Dortmund have a bigger chance to qualify for the next round.
Dortmund put themselves into a dangerous situation in this group but I believe at the end, they will manage to go through it. They will highly complete in second position, after Ajax and go next.

It's hard to say a second position is good because they might meet strong opponent in next round. Teams with first positions will be given seed tickets for the next Round and most of them are giants in the Europe. Dortmund don't want to meet them too soon.

I only wonder that how far Dortmund will reach to but don't wonder that whether they will go next.
I doubt Dortmund can actually make it through the group stage, it's still tough for them, Sporting won't let go without a fight and they still have a match with in Lisbon so keep that in mind, that match is the key to the next stage, but I think Sporting can do it and qualify instead of Dortmund, don't underestimate Sporting.
I think this match against sporting can be a determinant of this because indeed they are now on the same point but only differing in goal difference.
on the other hand dortmund even though they are playing at home sporting but i think they are still in the favorite to win this match.
this is something we can look forward to when one of these teams wins the match their chances of qualifying will be even greater.
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November 09, 2021, 12:36:59 PM
Apart from Real, no club in the last 30 years of the Champions League has managed to defend the title, if I remember correctly.
Correct. Only Real Madrid can protect the title, and they did it two times in their streak to win 3 consecutive titles with Zidane. After the third Champions League title, Zidane left the club for the first time.

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I don't think Chelsea are likely to win the trophy again and I don't understand why you think Manchester City won't win the European trophy?
I see that no one mentions Real and Barcelona which is a mistake, and we should not forget Ajax as a hidden favorite.
In any case, a very uncertain and exciting competition awaits us this season  Cheesy
Last season, in the final match, Chelsea was considered as the lower team than Manchester City. People talked about the weird decision of Pep to use Gundogan and considered it as main reason for the defeat of Manchester City.

Tuchel and Chelsea won the final in surprise of all. They won two Champions League and they won it in surprise when they are not stronger team in final matches.
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November 09, 2021, 12:19:51 PM
With the way we've seen different clubs perform in their several leagues,here are my top favourites for the UEFA Champions league.
Mancity
Bayern
Chelsea
PSG
Liverpool
I predict Mancity as the top favourite because of Pep Guardiola,he is very eager to win that tittle by all means,it has not been possible for him ever since he came to City,and his eyes are really on that trophy.
At the same time,Bayern with the players they have,are very interested in the tittle as well.
PSG will pose a threat,but I don't see them winning it.

If you remove Liverpool from this list, you get four clubs that played in the final stages of the Champions League last year! Wink By the way, the more experienced Chelsea won... I think that this year Man City will not be able to take the trophy! Maybe Chelsea or Bayern will win this season!

Apart from Real, no club in the last 30 years of the Champions League has managed to defend the title, if I remember correctly.
I don't think Chelsea are likely to win the trophy again and I don't understand why you think Manchester City won't win the European trophy?
I see that no one mentions Real and Barcelona which is a mistake, and we should not forget Ajax as a hidden favorite.
In any case, a very uncertain and exciting competition awaits us this season  Cheesy
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November 09, 2021, 11:51:28 AM
Now, Benzema actually has passed Raul in terms of total goals scored in the Champions League by 4 goals. But when it comes to scoring at Real Madrid, Raul is still ahead of Benzema as he has 66 goals in the Champions League while Benzema has 63. But I believe that Benzema can break this record even in this season of the tournament. Because Benzema is in a great shape now and there is no hindrance for him to succeed in this.
Football during last 20 years are crazy. We have many bomb scorers like Ronaldo, Messi, Benzema, Lewandowski and now Haaland, Mbappe.

They break many records in European football. I remembered that Inzaghi and Raul were fighting for the first position in Champions League scorer table. Now they are all falling behind this generation. Unbelievable!

Two decades ago, scoring 20 to 25 goals within one season is almost cap in all leagues but now 30 or 35 goals are not impossible with many players. Are they - attacking players - becoming better or in this generation, defenders are worse?
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November 09, 2021, 10:29:48 AM
Real Madrid didn't get a very comfortable win against Shakhtar Donetsk last night. They won 2-1 but it was a really competitive match. And it was definitely Benzema's night as he scored two goals and had a big role in the win. This was not the only thing important. He scored Real Madrid's 1000th goal in the Champions League in this match also. Real Madrid are the first team which scored at least 1000 goals in this tournament now.

Yes, I also found this game dangerous on the part of Real Madrid, since they had to secure themselves with a more comfortable advantage than one goal. But thanks to Benzema, everything ended well. By the way, if we talk about statistics, then in the next season (or by the end of this) Benzema will bypass Raul in the total number of goals scored for Real Madrid. Only Ronaldo will be ahead  Cool



Now, Benzema actually has passed Raul in terms of total goals scored in the Champions League by 4 goals. But when it comes to scoring at Real Madrid, Raul is still ahead of Benzema as he has 66 goals in the Champions League while Benzema has 63. But I believe that Benzema can break this record even in this season of the tournament. Because Benzema is in a great shape now and there is no hindrance for him to succeed in this.
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November 09, 2021, 06:59:11 AM
With the way we've seen different clubs perform in their several leagues,here are my top favourites for the UEFA Champions league.
Mancity
Bayern
Chelsea
PSG
Liverpool
I predict Mancity as the top favourite because of Pep Guardiola,he is very eager to win that tittle by all means,it has not been possible for him ever since he came to City,and his eyes are really on that trophy.
At the same time,Bayern with the players they have,are very interested in the tittle as well.
PSG will pose a threat,but I don't see them winning it.

If you remove Liverpool from this list, you get four clubs that played in the final stages of the Champions League last year! Wink By the way, the more experienced Chelsea won... I think that this year Man City will not be able to take the trophy! Maybe Chelsea or Bayern will win this season!
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November 09, 2021, 06:31:00 AM
Ajax was amazing and I predicted that wrong, because I thought in this group Dortmund were dominant but in fact it was a wrong prediction. The next match is Sporting - Dortmund, I personally still don't have a feeling with the strong record of which team wins under current conditions. But if we look at their head to head from the three games between them in the past, the fact is Dortmund won them all. But yes, the current conditions are different and I can't underestimate Sporting so yes, although both still have a chance to qualify but if the conditions are like this I think the luck factor will be very much expected by them.
Ajax is undoubtedly a great club! But the result of that meeting was decided by a red card and the removal of one of the key defenders of Dortmund Hummels in the beginning of the match, after which Dortmund still led in the score... Ajax began to score only at the end of the game...
As for the game in Lisbon, I think that Dortmund have to win! Wink

Ajax is definitely a strong and experienced team. But I didn't think they would win 3-1 against Dortmund. I bet on Dortmund winning. Dortmund played with 10 players so Ajax got a chance to attack more. Since Dortmund's defender was a low one, they also failed to repel the attack of Ajax's experienced striker. Ajax have won all of their Champions League matches.

@Minor I really like watching Ajax play because they’re not a star studded team, and yet they play one of the best football I have seen in recent year’s. Also I too expect Dortmund to win and qualify, because they have got a talented squad and I’m pretty sure that they’ll devise a way to win the fixture against Sporting.
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November 09, 2021, 06:27:36 AM
With the way we've seen different clubs perform in their several leagues,here are my top favourites for the UEFA Champions league.
Mancity
Bayern
Chelsea
PSG
Liverpool
I predict Mancity as the top favourite because of Pep Guardiola,he is very eager to win that tittle by all means,it has not been possible for him ever since he came to City,and his eyes are really on that trophy.
At the same time,Bayern with the players they have,are very interested in the tittle as well.
PSG will pose a threat,but I don't see them winning it.
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November 09, 2021, 05:21:16 AM
Ajax was amazing and I predicted that wrong, because I thought in this group Dortmund were dominant but in fact it was a wrong prediction. The next match is Sporting - Dortmund, I personally still don't have a feeling with the strong record of which team wins under current conditions. But if we look at their head to head from the three games between them in the past, the fact is Dortmund won them all. But yes, the current conditions are different and I can't underestimate Sporting so yes, although both still have a chance to qualify but if the conditions are like this I think the luck factor will be very much expected by them.
Ajax is undoubtedly a great club! But the result of that meeting was decided by a red card and the removal of one of the key defenders of Dortmund Hummels in the beginning of the match, after which Dortmund still led in the score... Ajax began to score only at the end of the game...
As for the game in Lisbon, I think that Dortmund have to win! Wink

Ajax is definitely a strong and experienced team. But I didn't think they would win 3-1 against Dortmund. I bet on Dortmund winning. Dortmund played with 10 players so Ajax got a chance to attack more. Since Dortmund's defender was a low one, they also failed to repel the attack of Ajax's experienced striker. Ajax have won all of their Champions League matches.
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November 09, 2021, 02:21:27 AM
Ajax was amazing and I predicted that wrong, because I thought in this group Dortmund were dominant but in fact it was a wrong prediction. The next match is Sporting - Dortmund, I personally still don't have a feeling with the strong record of which team wins under current conditions. But if we look at their head to head from the three games between them in the past, the fact is Dortmund won them all. But yes, the current conditions are different and I can't underestimate Sporting so yes, although both still have a chance to qualify but if the conditions are like this I think the luck factor will be very much expected by them.

Ajax is undoubtedly a great club! But the result of that meeting was decided by a red card and the removal of one of the key defenders of Dortmund Hummels in the beginning of the match, after which Dortmund still led in the score... Ajax began to score only at the end of the game...
As for the game in Lisbon, I think that Dortmund have to win! Wink
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November 09, 2021, 02:05:02 AM
Milan is drawing a successful graphic in Serie A, but it could not show the same success in the champions league. They were able to collect 1 point in 4 matches. They are in the last row of group B. I even see the probability of finishing the group in third place low. It may be an early farewell from Milan. Beşiktaş could not score in Group C.  They lost the chance to leave the group and the chance to continue in the European league. Liverpool and Ajax won 4/4 in these two groups and left the group with 12 points.
What we should all know is that Champions league football is different from Lalliga,Seria A,premier league or any other league.It is a game of the champions.
Milan are playing good football at home,but when it comes to the Champions league,they fumble.
It is quite unfortunate that they are exiting from this stage which  is group stage..
Apart from Milan,most teams play very well at league,but when they get to Champions league they will begin loosing.

Yes you are right. The champions league is a much more difficult league than their own league. It is a big tournament in which the champion teams in their own leagues participate or the biggest teams of the big leagues participate. In such a tournament, we see that teams that do well in the league can play poorly. Even the favorites of the Champions League can lose Matches. We can show the Real Madrid - Sheriff match as an example.
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November 09, 2021, 01:44:04 AM
Dortmund's remaining games are like this: Sporting (A) and Besiktas (H). And Sporting's remaining games are like this: Dortmund (H) and Ajax (A). Considering these fixtures, Dortmund have an easier fixture ahead. Sporting game could be hard but getting even one point can be enough for Dortmund. Because I think that they can destroy Besiktas in Signal Iduna Park. Let's say Sporting drew with Dortmund. They will have another very tough game. Ajax are the best team of the group now. Their performance so far is really huge. So, Dortmund have a bigger chance to qualify for the next round.
Dortmund put themselves into a dangerous situation in this group but I believe at the end, they will manage to go through it. They will highly complete in second position, after Ajax and go next.

It's hard to say a second position is good because they might meet strong opponent in next round. Teams with first positions will be given seed tickets for the next Round and most of them are giants in the Europe. Dortmund don't want to meet them too soon.

I only wonder that how far Dortmund will reach to but don't wonder that whether they will go next.
I doubt Dortmund can actually make it through the group stage, it's still tough for them, Sporting won't let go without a fight and they still have a match with in Lisbon so keep that in mind, that match is the key to the next stage, but I think Sporting can do it and qualify instead of Dortmund, don't underestimate Sporting.
Ajax was amazing and I predicted that wrong, because I thought in this group Dortmund were dominant but in fact it was a wrong prediction. The next match is Sporting - Dortmund, I personally still don't have a feeling with the strong record of which team wins under current conditions. But if we look at their head to head from the three games between them in the past, the fact is Dortmund won them all. But yes, the current conditions are different and I can't underestimate Sporting so yes, although both still have a chance to qualify but if the conditions are like this I think the luck factor will be very much expected by them.
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November 08, 2021, 07:50:35 PM
Dortmund's remaining games are like this: Sporting (A) and Besiktas (H). And Sporting's remaining games are like this: Dortmund (H) and Ajax (A). Considering these fixtures, Dortmund have an easier fixture ahead. Sporting game could be hard but getting even one point can be enough for Dortmund. Because I think that they can destroy Besiktas in Signal Iduna Park. Let's say Sporting drew with Dortmund. They will have another very tough game. Ajax are the best team of the group now. Their performance so far is really huge. So, Dortmund have a bigger chance to qualify for the next round.
Dortmund put themselves into a dangerous situation in this group but I believe at the end, they will manage to go through it. They will highly complete in second position, after Ajax and go next.

It's hard to say a second position is good because they might meet strong opponent in next round. Teams with first positions will be given seed tickets for the next Round and most of them are giants in the Europe. Dortmund don't want to meet them too soon.

I only wonder that how far Dortmund will reach to but don't wonder that whether they will go next.
I doubt Dortmund can actually make it through the group stage, it's still tough for them, Sporting won't let go without a fight and they still have a match with in Lisbon so keep that in mind, that match is the key to the next stage, but I think Sporting can do it and qualify instead of Dortmund, don't underestimate Sporting.
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November 08, 2021, 06:30:49 PM
Milan is drawing a successful graphic in Serie A, but it could not show the same success in the champions league. They were able to collect 1 point in 4 matches. They are in the last row of group B. I even see the probability of finishing the group in third place low. It may be an early farewell from Milan. Beşiktaş could not score in Group C.  They lost the chance to leave the group and the chance to continue in the European league. Liverpool and Ajax won 4/4 in these two groups and left the group with 12 points.
Nevertheless,am still seeing roma and juventus as the top teams to battle for the Titans of italians seria A.
Milan has only had a chance to surpass few club in seria A doesn't guarantee their overtime success. If you said that they can also venture in the champions league,have you thought about how many clubs are they and the history of the former championship? Can Milan defeat Chelsea on their current form?
If yes,then they can sail through
In principle, no one considered Chelsea such a likely favorite of the last Champions League draw, but step by step the team first reached the final, and then was able to win the main match. And as for a separate match, with due luck and diligence, any team in the current Champions League draw can win against any team and the example of the Sheriff from Tiraspol shows this perfectly. Moreover, we are talking about a not-so-weak team like Milan, which is one of the two leaders of the not-so-weak Italian championship. Therefore, I can calmly and responsibly say that in one particular match Milan could well beat Chelsea in its current form.
Cool analysis here.
I always say it that in as much as the team is in Champions league it should not be underrated. There are no underdogs in Champions league. If there exist it should be in Europa League. Anybody can win anyone.
The only little difference is experience.  Any club who has been in Champions league for much time will have more experience and any club which parades more Champions League experienced players will have an edge. That's just the difference.
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November 08, 2021, 11:58:21 AM
Dortmund's remaining games are like this: Sporting (A) and Besiktas (H). And Sporting's remaining games are like this: Dortmund (H) and Ajax (A). Considering these fixtures, Dortmund have an easier fixture ahead. Sporting game could be hard but getting even one point can be enough for Dortmund. Because I think that they can destroy Besiktas in Signal Iduna Park. Let's say Sporting drew with Dortmund. They will have another very tough game. Ajax are the best team of the group now. Their performance so far is really huge. So, Dortmund have a bigger chance to qualify for the next round.
Dortmund put themselves into a dangerous situation in this group but I believe at the end, they will manage to go through it. They will highly complete in second position, after Ajax and go next.

It's hard to say a second position is good because they might meet strong opponent in next round. Teams with first positions will be given seed tickets for the next Round and most of them are giants in the Europe. Dortmund don't want to meet them too soon.

I only wonder that how far Dortmund will reach to but don't wonder that whether they will go next.
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November 08, 2021, 11:26:01 AM
Dortmund - Ajax game last night was another disappointment for the Dortmund side unfortunately. Hummels was shown a red card in the 29th minute and very tough minutes started for Dortmund after that. But surprisingly, they still managed to get ahead by the Reus' penalty goal in only 8 minutes. And they kept the score at 1-0 for a really long time too. But still, Ajax scored three goals in the last 20 minutes and won the game by 3-1. After this result, Ajax have guaranteed qualifying for the next round. Dortmund are still in danger as they have the same points as Sporting in the group now (6 pts).

That red card was the turning point of the game in my opinion. Hummels is a very important player in Dortmund's defense. His getting the red card and Dortmund being 10 men cost them the match. I was expecting them to win the game, maybe they would have as well if the red card didn't take place. Dortmund was able to somewhat hold Ajax off but they collapsed at the end. Dortmund will really need to win the next couple of matches in order to qualify.

Dortmund's remaining games are like this: Sporting (A) and Besiktas (H). And Sporting's remaining games are like this: Dortmund (H) and Ajax (A). Considering these fixtures, Dortmund have an easier fixture ahead. Sporting game could be hard but getting even one point can be enough for Dortmund. Because I think that they can destroy Besiktas in Signal Iduna Park. Let's say Sporting drew with Dortmund. They will have another very tough game. Ajax are the best team of the group now. Their performance so far is really huge. So, Dortmund have a bigger chance to qualify for the next round.
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November 08, 2021, 02:55:55 AM
What we should all know is that Champions league football is different from Lalliga,Seria A,premier league or any other league.It is a game of the champions.
Milan are playing good football at home,but when it comes to the Champions league,they fumble.
It is quite unfortunate that they are exiting from this stage which  is group stage..
Apart from Milan,most teams play very well at league,but when they get to Champions league they will begin loosing.
Agree here it's completely different from other European Leagues because we have some very exciting results even in this season when Sheriff beats Real Madrid, and recently we also have some big surprises like Juventus is not good in Italian League but having perfect record in Champions League same happen in case of Lille they are very poor in French League but beats Seville in their last game it is big game just strong and quality teams can survive here.

In AC Milan case they are currently second in Italian League, so they are trying to perform better their instead of here having just 1 points from four games is very poor from them but now after 2 games they can give some better performance in local league for better result at the end of this season.
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November 07, 2021, 07:51:04 PM
Milan is drawing a successful graphic in Serie A, but it could not show the same success in the champions league. They were able to collect 1 point in 4 matches. They are in the last row of group B. I even see the probability of finishing the group in third place low. It may be an early farewell from Milan. Beşiktaş could not score in Group C.  They lost the chance to leave the group and the chance to continue in the European league. Liverpool and Ajax won 4/4 in these two groups and left the group with 12 points.
Nevertheless,am still seeing roma and juventus as the top teams to battle for the Titans of italians seria A.
Milan has only had a chance to surpass few club in seria A doesn't guarantee their overtime success. If you said that they can also venture in the champions league,have you thought about how many clubs are they and the history of the former championship? Can Milan defeat Chelsea on their current form?
If yes,then they can sail through
In principle, no one considered Chelsea such a likely favorite of the last Champions League draw, but step by step the team first reached the final, and then was able to win the main match. And as for a separate match, with due luck and diligence, any team in the current Champions League draw can win against any team and the example of the Sheriff from Tiraspol shows this perfectly. Moreover, we are talking about a not-so-weak team like Milan, which is one of the two leaders of the not-so-weak Italian championship. Therefore, I can calmly and responsibly say that in one particular match Milan could well beat Chelsea in its current form.
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November 07, 2021, 06:21:17 PM
Milan is drawing a successful graphic in Serie A, but it could not show the same success in the champions league. They were able to collect 1 point in 4 matches. They are in the last row of group B. I even see the probability of finishing the group in third place low. It may be an early farewell from Milan. Beşiktaş could not score in Group C.  They lost the chance to leave the group and the chance to continue in the European league. Liverpool and Ajax won 4/4 in these two groups and left the group with 12 points.
What we should all know is that Champions league football is different from Lalliga,Seria A,premier league or any other league.It is a game of the champions.
Milan are playing good football at home,but when it comes to the Champions league,they fumble.
It is quite unfortunate that they are exiting from this stage which  is group stage..
Apart from Milan,most teams play very well at league,but when they get to Champions league they will begin loosing.
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