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Quote from: Newlifebtc on November 14, 2021, 11:45:41 PM

Quote from: nelson4lov on November 14, 2021, 05:28:54 PM

Quote from: Pulsar77 on November 14, 2021, 03:01:49 PM

Manchester United are going to play an away game against Villarreal next time. And they have an English Premier League game against Watford before this one. In case they lose points there, we could see Manchester United sacking Ole Solskjaer and starting to search for a new manager before the game against Villarreal. Even though they win against Watford, I don't believe in Manchester United to win against Villarreal in this tough game. I think that both teams will score but Villarreal won't lose unless Ole leaves the team.

That's a pretty bold claim - "Villarreal won't lose unless Ole leaves the team". In your opinion, this means that Villarreal will win as far as Ole is still in charge of Man Utd. I wouldn't say such about this man utd team. They can be unpredictable to an extent. Just a few weeks ago, Atalanta were 2 goals ahead of them and they came back to not just equalize but won the match. It's going to be an interesting match. Looking forward to it. Ole will prolly be sacked if he losses to Watford and Villarreal.

The sack letter can just be handed over to ole,but seems like they want to lose against sides like Chelsea and Arsenal.
I doubt if Manchester United fans can take all of those defeats likely.
Claudio Ranieri knows how to play Manchester United very well, also Emery at Villarreal wasn't the type Ole won here in the premier league.

Honestly speaking I am not that well informed how the current situation with Solskjaer is received by the fans. Aren't they on his side as he is a serious idol of the club and for the fans? He has done so much as a play for Manchester United that I can imagine they would be more patient with him?

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Quote from: nelson4lov on November 14, 2021, 05:28:54 PM

Quote from: Pulsar77 on November 14, 2021, 03:01:49 PM

Manchester United are going to play an away game against Villarreal next time. And they have an English Premier League game against Watford before this one. In case they lose points there, we could see Manchester United sacking Ole Solskjaer and starting to search for a new manager before the game against Villarreal. Even though they win against Watford, I don't believe in Manchester United to win against Villarreal in this tough game. I think that both teams will score but Villarreal won't lose unless Ole leaves the team.

That's a pretty bold claim - "Villarreal won't lose unless Ole leaves the team". In your opinion, this means that Villarreal will win as far as Ole is still in charge of Man Utd. I wouldn't say such about this man utd team. They can be unpredictable to an extent. Just a few weeks ago, Atalanta were 2 goals ahead of them and they came back to not just equalize but won the match. It's going to be an interesting match. Looking forward to it. Ole will prolly be sacked if he losses to Watford and Villarreal.

The sack letter can just be handed over to ole,but seems like they want to lose against sides like Chelsea and Arsenal.
I doubt if Manchester United fans can take all of those defeats likely.
Claudio Ranieri knows how to play Manchester United very well, also Emery at Villarreal wasn't the type Ole won here in the premier league.

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Quote from: Pulsar77 on November 14, 2021, 03:01:49 PM

Manchester United are going to play an away game against Villarreal next time. And they have an English Premier League game against Watford before this one. In case they lose points there, we could see Manchester United sacking Ole Solskjaer and starting to search for a new manager before the game against Villarreal.

Villareal is strong at home, in the last 4 games they never got a loss, just a bit unfortunate loss against Osasuna. When talking about MU, we don't need too much hope, I just hope they don't stop until here. we won't be surprising if they lost again and again. It up to Ole, which strategy he wants to use, so far Ronaldo and Cavani (3-5-2) is the best formation he used, but when he uses Rashford, don't be hope to be win.

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Quote from: alegotardo on November 14, 2021, 07:40:04 PM

He will definitely play. Here in Brazil, all the TV channels say: Neymar's Brazil will play against Messi's Argentina.
Maybe they won't play the 90 minutes, but I would bet both players will take the field as a starter.

Of course my win bet is on the Brazilian team, but I hope to see a very close game with goals for both teams.
I just hope that Argentine players don't try to circumvent Brazil's health laws again.

If both players are fit enough to play then they will have the opportunity to do so from the first minute. Brazil vs Argentina is always a very tough match although many people will think Brazil will win that match. But I don't expect this match to be an easy one for Brazil because both will try to get maximum point. Brazil is not only Neymar and Argentina is not all about Messi because there are many other dangerous players who can score goals to win their country in that match.

For the Champions League match, PSG will play vs Manchester City which will be held in the next 10 days. This is the 5th match out of 6 match in the group, I'm sure these two team will qualify for the next round.

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Quote from: AndySt on November 14, 2021, 06:44:51 PM

In fact, Messi appeared in the Argentina national team at the end of the match with Uruguay for 15 minutes. And I would not be surprised if Messi appears in the upcoming match with Brazil in the starting lineup. [...]

He will definitely play. Here in Brazil, all the TV channels say: Neymar's Brazil will play against Messi's Argentina.
Maybe they won't play the 90 minutes, but I would bet both players will take the field as a starter.

Of course my win bet is on the Brazilian team, but I hope to see a very close game with goals for both teams.
I just hope that Argentine players don't try to circumvent Brazil's health laws again.

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Quote from: Silberman on November 14, 2021, 03:21:16 PM

That is just the way many Italian Teams play, it seems as if they are allergic to holding to the ball for any amount of time but they are great at counterattacking, the national team of Italy has reached 6 finals and won 4 world cups by having the best defense possible, a great goalkeeper and a lethal striker that can score a goal with the limited opportunities he may get, so the fact that their opponent has the most opportunities to score or a very long possession of the ball does not matter at all because that is by design with many Italian teams.

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Well yeah actually i do like that kind situation, where the data says the one who dominating the game has more chance to score goal and win the match but with italian typical gameplay .. things went wild far from what the data shown which its good for us who love to chase for the huge odds on the underestimated side , i often receive an odds of 4.xx to 8.xx chasing this type of match.

beware of italian teams , but wait how long since the last time an italian team won champions league? lol it's been 11 years now! inter are the latest one in 2010, it's just shows how italian league left behind.

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Quote from: AndySt on November 14, 2021, 06:44:51 PM

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Quote from: Furious 7 on November 14, 2021, 02:40:53 PM

In the upcoming Champions League, many matches will be highlighted because this will be a decisive factor even though they have 2 matches in the Champions League as a preliminary round.

But here I highlight Mancity vs PSG will the hosts take revenge at the Etihad? This is the moment I've been waiting for and yesterday's defeat to PSG but I'm sure Pep Guardiola will be able to quell that revenge, now it's interesting for me although other matches also need to be watched.

Do you think Messi has a chance of playing in that match?
Last I remember, he was injured and didn't feature in PSG recent match and Argentina's win against Uruguay. Without him featuring in the Manchester City vs PSG game, there is that spice of hype that will miss in that game.
I would really love to see him play against his former boss.

In fact, Messi appeared in the Argentina national team at the end of the match with Uruguay for 15 minutes. And I would not be surprised if Messi appears in the upcoming match with Brazil in the starting lineup.

This I am pretty sure about. The Argentinan coach knows that Messi wants to face Neymar and co. It is those games also where Messi usually is really good. He needs the challenge. That is also why I believe that he doesn't perform that well in the Ligue 1 against weaker teams, but already scored three times in the CL in three games.

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Quote from: JeromeTash on November 14, 2021, 04:30:55 PM

Quote from: Furious 7 on November 14, 2021, 02:40:53 PM

In the upcoming Champions League, many matches will be highlighted because this will be a decisive factor even though they have 2 matches in the Champions League as a preliminary round.

But here I highlight Mancity vs PSG will the hosts take revenge at the Etihad? This is the moment I've been waiting for and yesterday's defeat to PSG but I'm sure Pep Guardiola will be able to quell that revenge, now it's interesting for me although other matches also need to be watched.

Do you think Messi has a chance of playing in that match?
Last I remember, he was injured and didn't feature in PSG recent match and Argentina's win against Uruguay. Without him featuring in the Manchester City vs PSG game, there is that spice of hype that will miss in that game.
I would really love to see him play against his former boss.

In fact, Messi appeared in the Argentina national team at the end of the match with Uruguay for 15 minutes. And I would not be surprised if Messi appears in the upcoming match with Brazil in the starting lineup. Another question is in what condition Lionel will return to the club after that and whether he will get a new injury or just aggravate an old injury, because in this match Messi will have to play at full strength no matter what. By the way, Paris Saint-Germain already has a world-class star player in the person of Sergio Ramos, who was signed to solve serious problems, but who, due to injury, has not yet played a single official match for the new club. Therefore, of course, there are chances of Messi's participation in the upcoming PSG matches, but not 100 percent.

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Quote from: nelson4lov on November 14, 2021, 05:28:54 PM

Quote from: Pulsar77 on November 14, 2021, 03:01:49 PM

Manchester United are going to play an away game against Villarreal next time. And they have an English Premier League game against Watford before this one. In case they lose points there, we could see Manchester United sacking Ole Solskjaer and starting to search for a new manager before the game against Villarreal. Even though they win against Watford, I don't believe in Manchester United to win against Villarreal in this tough game. I think that both teams will score but Villarreal won't lose unless Ole leaves the team.

That's a pretty bold claim - "Villarreal won't lose unless Ole leaves the team". In your opinion, this means that Villarreal will win as far as Ole is still in charge of Man Utd. I wouldn't say such about this man utd team. They can be unpredictable to an extent. Just a few weeks ago, Atalanta were 2 goals ahead of them and they came back to not just equalize but won the match. It's going to be an interesting match. Looking forward to it. Ole will prolly be sacked if he losses to Watford and Villarreal.

Yes even though I agree that Manchester is far away from a perfect shape and from using their full potential, they still have extremely strong players on the pitch who can decide the games for Manchester United regardless of who the coach is. It is true though that Manchester better wins against Watford or otherwise Solskjaer is in trouble, but anyway: they can beat Villareal anytime, but so an Villareal beat them. For me that game is totally open for any result to be the outcome.

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Quote from: Pulsar77 on November 14, 2021, 03:01:49 PM

Manchester United are going to play an away game against Villarreal next time. And they have an English Premier League game against Watford before this one. In case they lose points there, we could see Manchester United sacking Ole Solskjaer and starting to search for a new manager before the game against Villarreal. Even though they win against Watford, I don't believe in Manchester United to win against Villarreal in this tough game. I think that both teams will score but Villarreal won't lose unless Ole leaves the team.

That's a pretty bold claim - "Villarreal won't lose unless Ole leaves the team". In your opinion, this means that Villarreal will win as far as Ole is still in charge of Man Utd. I wouldn't say such about this man utd team. They can be unpredictable to an extent. Just a few weeks ago, Atalanta were 2 goals ahead of them and they came back to not just equalize but won the match. It's going to be an interesting match. Looking forward to it. Ole will prolly be sacked if he losses to Watford and Villarreal.

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Quote from: JeromeTash on November 14, 2021, 04:30:55 PM

Quote from: Furious 7 on November 14, 2021, 02:40:53 PM

In the upcoming Champions League, many matches will be highlighted because this will be a decisive factor even though they have 2 matches in the Champions League as a preliminary round.

But here I highlight Mancity vs PSG will the hosts take revenge at the Etihad? This is the moment I've been waiting for and yesterday's defeat to PSG but I'm sure Pep Guardiola will be able to quell that revenge, now it's interesting for me although other matches also need to be watched.

Do you think Messi has a chance of playing in that match?

Last I remember, he was injured and didn't feature in PSG recent match and Argentina's win against Uruguay. Without him featuring in the Manchester City vs PSG game, there is that spice of hype that will miss in that game.
I would really love to see him play against his former boss.

I believe Messi has a chance to play because he is an important role in this UCL game.

In fact, there are rumors about an internal investigation about Messi who is said to be injured at PSG because he cannot appear while in his country Argentina appears even as a substitute substitute.

Lionel Scaloni says Messi is doing well so he can play and this is different from PSG saying he is injured and can't defend, so which one is true? Is messi more important to Argentina and it costs PSG not to appear?

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Quote from: Furious 7 on November 14, 2021, 02:40:53 PM

In the upcoming Champions League, many matches will be highlighted because this will be a decisive factor even though they have 2 matches in the Champions League as a preliminary round.

But here I highlight Mancity vs PSG will the hosts take revenge at the Etihad? This is the moment I've been waiting for and yesterday's defeat to PSG but I'm sure Pep Guardiola will be able to quell that revenge, now it's interesting for me although other matches also need to be watched.

Do you think Messi has a chance of playing in that match?

Last I remember, he was injured and didn't feature in PSG recent match and Argentina's win against Uruguay. Without him featuring in the Manchester City vs PSG game, there is that spice of hype that will miss in that game.
I would really love to see him play against his former boss.

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It is not about the defeat in the first game, not at all. It is about the risk to lose and go into the Europa League. That would be a very dangerous strategy to just go for second place. They need to play their absolute best with the strongest squad possible. Anything else would be naive.

Do you believe Zenit will win the remaining two games and Chelsea will lose two Champions League games? In this case, the teams will only equal in points, so that the option in which Chelsea will not be able to leave the group, I think, is not even worth considering, because this will not happen. Chelsea will fight with Juventus for the first place in the group, and I think that in the second leg, Chelsea will not lose, because they will be more motivated to show who is stronger.

Keep in mind the mental pressure that would arise if Chelsea loses against Juventus, which could definitely happen. It is not impossible to lose against Juventus, I think we agree about that.

Now Zenit wins their game let's say and has 6 points, Chelsea has 9 points and the first leg between them was 1 - 0 for Chelsea at home. Now Chelsea has to play in St. Petersburg against a team that they only managed to beat 1 - 0 in the first leg and they know that if they are going to lose this one, it is going to be veery close. I am not saying it is likely, but I am saying that it wouldn't be the first time we get to see a situation where an underdog gets into a very wonderful position against a powerful team.

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Quote from: EdenHazard on November 14, 2021, 01:53:33 PM

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Chelsea - Juventus is going to be an important game for each team in terms of having the lead in their group. And Chelsea must win this if they want to take the lead. Because the first criterion to decide which team will be ahead is head-to-head matches. If Chelsea don't win this, they won't have another choice to be the leader. And considering the general forms of both teams, Chelsea seem to be closer to reaching the victory. Juventus defeated them by 1-0 in Turin. But I don't think that they will even draw with Chelsea. I'm expecting them to play defensive to secure a draw. But I don't think they can resist Chelsea till the end.

Chelsea dominated in their last match against Juventus, but Juventus was lucky enough to have a shot on target which resulted to a goal. Well, Chelsea will be playing in their home, and that will boost their morale about winning the match. Anyways, Juventus have to strengthen their defence,if they want to end the game without losing. But, is an important game for Chelsea because they are 3 points behind Juventus on the group table. However, it will definitely be a tough and interesting match to watch. I think Chelsea will fight for a winning.

It was clumsy defending by chelsea and italian teams well known good at counter attacking , making a long ball .. two touch and goal , everyone seems never learned but actually that is the playing style of italian teams , i remember when chelsea play against intermilan side where mourinho there at inter .. chelsea are indeed dominated the game but inter the one who converted goal effectively, tuchel must anticipated this.

to make chelsea easier to get through the next phase , a win is a must.

That is just the way many Italian Teams play, it seems as if they are allergic to holding to the ball for any amount of time but they are great at counterattacking, the national team of Italy has reached 6 finals and won 4 world cups by having the best defense possible, a great goalkeeper and a lethal striker that can score a goal with the limited opportunities he may get, so the fact that their opponent has the most opportunities to score or a very long possession of the ball does not matter at all because that is by design with many Italian teams.

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Looking at the schedule for the next match, there is Villarreal vs Man United, I'm quite looking forward to whether the result will be won by Villarreal or United. This match is one of the determinants of Ole's fate at United, if they lose I think the news of Ole's sacking will be heard more quickly even though in fact their successive defeats occurred in the Premier League but the impact on Ole is quite large in this champion league. With the condition of the Villarreal team being quite stable, I don't think it will be easy for Ole and his team.

Although currently Manchester United has experienced some painful defeats, but I am very optimistic that Manchester United will be able to beat Vila Real, because a big club like Manchester United, has a big history in the Champions League, I am optimistic that Manchester United will be able to advance to the last 16 of the Champions League.

Lets take this one step at a time,they should get three points from watfords game before putting hopes on Villarreal ole failed to win during the Europa league finals.

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Manchester United are going to play an away game against Villarreal next time. And they have an English Premier League game against Watford before this one. In case they lose points there, we could see Manchester United sacking Ole Solskjaer and starting to search for a new manager before the game against Villarreal. Even though they win against Watford, I don't believe in Manchester United to win against Villarreal in this tough game. I think that both teams will score but Villarreal won't lose unless Ole leaves the team.

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In the upcoming Champions League, many matches will be highlighted because this will be a decisive factor even though they have 2 matches in the Champions League as a preliminary round.

But here I highlight Mancity vs PSG will the hosts take revenge at the Etihad? This is the moment I've been waiting for and yesterday's defeat to PSG but I'm sure Pep Guardiola will be able to quell that revenge, now it's interesting for me although other matches also need to be watched.

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Quote from: oHnK on November 13, 2021, 02:06:02 PM

Looking at the schedule for the next match, there is Villarreal vs Man United, I'm quite looking forward to whether the result will be won by Villarreal or United.

Both teams have had the better of each other and without losing the comfortable position United are sitting on, I think a draw for this game will be the best result but then again on a good day United can be aggressive and win this game for total safety.

Quote from: oHnK on November 13, 2021, 02:06:02 PM

This match is one of the determinants of Ole's fate at United, if they lose I think the news of Ole's sacking will be heard more quickly even though in fact their successive defeats occurred in the Premier League but the impact on Ole is quite large in this champion league. With the condition of the Villarreal team being quite stable, I don't think it will be easy for Ole and his team.

certainly wont be an easy game mate and the fans continued pressure to have Ole sacked continues with the upcoming UEFA games, but i don't think this game could get him the boot either because the board seem to side with him, players have taken his side and Sir Alex seemed to have bought him more time too.

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Quote from: blackened515 on November 14, 2021, 01:37:28 PM

Quote from: Pulsar77 on November 13, 2021, 03:13:13 PM

Chelsea - Juventus is going to be an important game for each team in terms of having the lead in their group. And Chelsea must win this if they want to take the lead. Because the first criterion to decide which team will be ahead is head-to-head matches. If Chelsea don't win this, they won't have another choice to be the leader. And considering the general forms of both teams, Chelsea seem to be closer to reaching the victory. Juventus defeated them by 1-0 in Turin. But I don't think that they will even draw with Chelsea. I'm expecting them to play defensive to secure a draw. But I don't think they can resist Chelsea till the end.

Chelsea dominated in their last match against Juventus, but Juventus was lucky enough to have a shot on target which resulted to a goal. Well, Chelsea will be playing in their home, and that will boost their morale about winning the match. Anyways, Juventus have to strengthen their defence,if they want to end the game without losing. But, is an important game for Chelsea because they are 3 points behind Juventus on the group table. However, it will definitely be a tough and interesting match to watch. I think Chelsea will fight for a winning.

It was clumsy defending by chelsea and italian teams well known good at counter attacking , making a long ball .. two touch and goal , everyone seems never learned but actually that is the playing style of italian teams , i remember when chelsea play against intermilan side where mourinho there at inter .. chelsea are indeed dominated the game but inter the one who converted goal effectively, tuchel must anticipated this.

to make chelsea easier to get through the next phase , a win is a must.

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Quote from: Pulsar77 on November 13, 2021, 03:13:13 PM

Chelsea - Juventus is going to be an important game for each team in terms of having the lead in their group. And Chelsea must win this if they want to take the lead. Because the first criterion to decide which team will be ahead is head-to-head matches. If Chelsea don't win this, they won't have another choice to be the leader. And considering the general forms of both teams, Chelsea seem to be closer to reaching the victory. Juventus defeated them by 1-0 in Turin. But I don't think that they will even draw with Chelsea. I'm expecting them to play defensive to secure a draw. But I don't think they can resist Chelsea till the end.

Chelsea dominated in their last match against Juventus, but Juventus was lucky enough to have a shot on target which resulted to a goal. Well, Chelsea will be playing in their home, and that will boost their morale about winning the match. Anyways, Juventus have to strengthen their defence,if they want to end the game without losing. But, is an important game for Chelsea because they are 3 points behind Juventus on the group table. However, it will definitely be a tough and interesting match to watch. I think Chelsea will fight for a winning.

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