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Quote from: KTChampions on October 27, 2021, 05:28:25 AM

Quote from: Luzin on October 26, 2021, 11:09:11 AM

The sheriff still has plenty of chances to qualify for the knockout stages.
If you look at the rest of the game, it's a tough step for the Sheriff. If they want to qualify they have to fight extra hard. Indeed, on paper Madrid and Inter are very superior, but in football anything can happen. So maybe we can see the determination of qualifying in the final group match.

The Sheriff's problem is that Real and Inter are stronger not on paper but on the field. Now in Group D a situation arose that the matches began to matter as if it were a playoff stage, and immediately the results became less random. I am sure that Sheriff will lose the next matches with Inter and Real with a big score (at least with a comfortable score for Real and Inter).

Football games do not take place on paper. I'm sure you never counted Sheriff from the start, but they went on to beat Real Madrid and Shakhtar Donestk and collected 6 points in a well-deserved victory. They may lack the resources and calibre of players that Shakhtar Donestk and Real Madrid have, but as long as they are technically coached, they will beat them again in the return leg.

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Let's say the Sheriff lost to Real Madrid and a draw with Inter Milan is also an advantage for the Sheriff who will qualify but will they be able to hold the top team in Group D at least there is a draw from the two matches?
I said Real Madrid can qualify but will still try for the Italian team who are demanding to win twice otherwise there will be no chance, maybe move to the Europa League.
But I wonder if Inter Milan can be consistent for this difficult game?

I believe Sheriff will be knocked out because Real Madrid and Inter Milan are in fine form, hence it’s difficult to imagine that these two teams will lose or draw against Sheriff.

Also if Inter Milan gets knocked out it’ll be a shocker, because I feel they can cause few upsets in the champions league hence I’m hoping that they can qualify for the next round.

Actually I also believe the top teams from group D will qualify and Sheriff and Shakthar will not qualify but in a football match anything can happen and if Inter Milan don't qualify it's not a surprise but rather a mistake from the start that was inconsistent to get points to stay safe but now it's just being able to win with the Sheriff was safe enough for Inter.

I also think a good performance in the domestic league can improve in the champions league and this should not allow a top team to lose they should be able to win and be able to prove it.

I'm still optimistic that Real Madrid and Inter will qualify for the next round for Group D, but it depends on the result of the next match. Especially if
Inter can beat the Sheriff once again when playing away, Inter's chances of qualifying for the next round should be huge. But like you said
sometimes football matches are full of surprises, like when Real Madrid was beaten by the Sheriff. So both Real Madrid and Inter really have to be
careful against weaker teams, because they usually rely on fighting spirit. I agree that top teams like Real Madrid and Inter have to prove they
deserve more to qualify by playing at their best.

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Quote from: Luzin on October 26, 2021, 11:09:11 AM

The sheriff still has plenty of chances to qualify for the knockout stages.
If you look at the rest of the game, it's a tough step for the Sheriff. If they want to qualify they have to fight extra hard. Indeed, on paper Madrid and Inter are very superior, but in football anything can happen. So maybe we can see the determination of qualifying in the final group match.

The Sheriff's problem is that Real and Inter are stronger not on paper but on the field. Now in Group D a situation arose that the matches began to matter as if it were a playoff stage, and immediately the results became less random. I am sure that Sheriff will lose the next matches with Inter and Real with a big score (at least with a comfortable score for Real and Inter).

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Quote from: hahay on October 27, 2021, 04:57:58 AM

~~ Liverpool I just admitted that United can't expect too much from Ole. So, the second match against Atalanta is a difficult match because in fact, Atalanta almost won at Old Trafford which shows when United will play away then on paper Atalanta will win.

This is what many doubt about Ole later when playing away to Atalanta obviously this will be heavy pressure for players and Ole can not do much in this case so will not believe that Ole can win with Atalanta later.

I heard the news that if you win with Spurs Ole can be defended but if you lose this will be reconsidered, of course, there is hope for Ole but how can I see Man United's game is not so good in his hands, many even doubt to win with a big team.

Even on social media, there are many "Ole out" petitions.

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Quote from: BALIK on October 26, 2021, 08:53:05 PM

Quote from: Turbolinea on October 26, 2021, 03:47:54 PM

The first rendezvous between Manchester United and Atalanta ended up with Manchester United's 3-2 win. Manchester United made a really huge comeback in the second half and deserved to win the game also. However, their job will be much harder this time. It is not easy to defeat an opponent like Atalanta. And we know how bad Manchester United are playing lately. If they continue with Ole, I don't expect them to win this game.

The previous match against Atlanta was Manchester's home match. The performance of Ronaldo and Bruno Fernandes in the match was outstanding. Manchester United were able to win because of the extraordinary performance of these two. But the next match is Atlanta's home match. At the same time Manchester United is now a wrecked team. The players are not in a strong position mentally after the humiliating defeat with Liverpool. I don't think Manchester United can win Atlanta's home match.

just my opinion, as long as Man United is coached by Ole then all matches will be tough for them, especially if they have to deal with a strong team, actually Atlanta is not too special but before this match MU must first play in the league against Tottenham this will definitely drain players stamina and emotions and they can be even more pressured if the result is only a draw.

Indeed, Atalanta is not a special team but the fact is that in recent years Atalanta has always been a tough opponent for many other top teams in the UCL and in Serie A. Therefore, I personally cannot say Atalanta is a mediocre team and they remain strong team in my opinion. By the way, after United's defeat by Liverpool I just admitted that United can't expect too much from Ole. So, the second match against Atalanta is a difficult match because in fact, Atalanta almost won at Old Trafford which shows when United will play away then on paper Atalanta will win.

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Quote from: BALIK on October 26, 2021, 08:53:05 PM

Quote from: Turbolinea on October 26, 2021, 03:47:54 PM

The first rendezvous between Manchester United and Atalanta ended up with Manchester United's 3-2 win. Manchester United made a really huge comeback in the second half and deserved to win the game also. However, their job will be much harder this time. It is not easy to defeat an opponent like Atalanta. And we know how bad Manchester United are playing lately. If they continue with Ole, I don't expect them to win this game.

The previous match against Atlanta was Manchester's home match. The performance of Ronaldo and Bruno Fernandes in the match was outstanding. Manchester United were able to win because of the extraordinary performance of these two. But the next match is Atlanta's home match. At the same time Manchester United is now a wrecked team. The players are not in a strong position mentally after the humiliating defeat with Liverpool. I don't think Manchester United can win Atlanta's home match.

just my opinion, as long as Man United is coached by Ole then all matches will be tough for them, especially if they have to deal with a strong team, actually Atlanta is not too special but before this match MU must first play in the league against Tottenham this will definitely drain players stamina and emotions and they can be even more pressured if the result is only a draw.

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Quote from: Turbolinea on October 26, 2021, 03:47:54 PM

The first rendezvous between Manchester United and Atalanta ended up with Manchester United's 3-2 win. Manchester United made a really huge comeback in the second half and deserved to win the game also. However, their job will be much harder this time. It is not easy to defeat an opponent like Atalanta. And we know how bad Manchester United are playing lately. If they continue with Ole, I don't expect them to win this game.

The previous match against Atlanta was Manchester's home match. The performance of Ronaldo and Bruno Fernandes in the match was outstanding. Manchester United were able to win because of the extraordinary performance of these two. But the next match is Atlanta's home match. At the same time Manchester United is now a wrecked team. The players are not in a strong position mentally after the humiliating defeat with Liverpool. I don't think Manchester United can win Atlanta's home match.

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The first rendezvous between Manchester United and Atalanta ended up with Manchester United's 3-2 win. Manchester United made a really huge comeback in the second half and deserved to win the game also. However, their job will be much harder this time. It is not easy to defeat an opponent like Atalanta. And we know how bad Manchester United are playing lately. If they continue with Ole, I don't expect them to win this game.

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Let's say the Sheriff lost to Real Madrid and a draw with Inter Milan is also an advantage for the Sheriff who will qualify but will they be able to hold the top team in Group D at least there is a draw from the two matches?
I said Real Madrid can qualify but will still try for the Italian team who are demanding to win twice otherwise there will be no chance, maybe move to the Europa League.
But I wonder if Inter Milan can be consistent for this difficult game?

I believe Sheriff will be knocked out because Real Madrid and Inter Milan are in fine form, hence it’s difficult to imagine that these two teams will lose or draw against Sheriff.

Also if Inter Milan gets knocked out it’ll be a shocker, because I feel they can cause few upsets in the champions league hence I’m hoping that they can qualify for the next round.

Actually I also believe the top teams from group D will qualify and Sheriff and Shakthar will not qualify but in a football match anything can happen and if Inter Milan don't qualify it's not a surprise but rather a mistake from the start that was inconsistent to get points to stay safe but now it's just being able to win with the Sheriff was safe enough for Inter.

I also think a good performance in the domestic league can improve in the champions league and this should not allow a top team to lose they should be able to win and be able to prove it.

it's true that anything can happen in 90 minutes of play.
apart from that it all now depends on the three teams namely sheriff, inter and real madrid.
when one of these teams make a few mistakes in their last 2 matches in the group stage then their chances of qualifying will be slim.
but looking at all the charts in this group phase it seems that this group can be said to be the fiercest in their points competition

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Quote from: Juggy777 on October 26, 2021, 05:43:58 AM

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Let's say the Sheriff lost to Real Madrid and a draw with Inter Milan is also an advantage for the Sheriff who will qualify but will they be able to hold the top team in Group D at least there is a draw from the two matches?
I said Real Madrid can qualify but will still try for the Italian team who are demanding to win twice otherwise there will be no chance, maybe move to the Europa League.
But I wonder if Inter Milan can be consistent for this difficult game?

I believe Sheriff will be knocked out because Real Madrid and Inter Milan are in fine form, hence it’s difficult to imagine that these two teams will lose or draw against Sheriff.

Also if Inter Milan gets knocked out it’ll be a shocker, because I feel they can cause few upsets in the champions league hence I’m hoping that they can qualify for the next round.

Actually I also believe the top teams from group D will qualify and Sheriff and Shakthar will not qualify but in a football match anything can happen and if Inter Milan don't qualify it's not a surprise but rather a mistake from the start that was inconsistent to get points to stay safe but now it's just being able to win with the Sheriff was safe enough for Inter.

I also think a good performance in the domestic league can improve in the champions league and this should not allow a top team to lose they should be able to win and be able to prove it.

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Sheriff is still very much in the tournament but that's if they can manage to win at least 2 of their last 3 group stage game as that would give them a really good chance against Inter for second place spot. But I would prefer if teams like this are knocked out early in the tournament otherwise, they might just go on to lose it.

I think it's going to be difficult for Sheriff. They still have to play against Real Madrid and Inter Milan. Both games are at home which is certainly an advantage, but these two top teams won't underestimate Sheriff again. If Sheriff can win one of the two games, then they have a good chance to reach the next round. I don't think so though. For sure they will continue to play in the Euro League, because I don't think Schachtar will catch up.

Let's say the Sheriff lost to Real Madrid and a draw with Inter Milan is also an advantage for the Sheriff who will qualify but will they be able to hold the top team in Group D at least there is a draw from the two matches?
I said Real Madrid can qualify but will still try for the Italian team who are demanding to win twice otherwise there will be no chance, maybe move to the Europa League.
But I wonder if Inter Milan can be consistent for this difficult game?

Although Sheriff will play against both the teams in the home match but I still doubt that they will get the results needed for them to qualify. Yes, they defeated Madrid in their home but I think that was an unfortunate match for Real Madrid and Real will be making sure that doesn't happen again. And Inter is playing very well in the league and even though Sheriff might give them a challenge, I hardly think that they will lose the match with Sheriff.

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Quote from: Luzin on October 26, 2021, 11:09:11 AM

The sheriff still has plenty of chances to qualify for the knockout stages.
If you look at the rest of the game, it's a tough step for the Sheriff. If they want to qualify they have to fight extra hard. Indeed, on paper Madrid and Inter are very superior, but in football anything can happen. So maybe we can see the determination of qualifying in the final group match.

Sheriff has a chance to qualify although the upcoming 3 match are not at all easy for them. Real Madrid and Inter are far superior to the Sheriff in terms of team quality. Real Madrid and Inter will definitely do their best to qualify for the next stage but don't forget that the Sheriff will do the same. The Sheriffs have a chance if they can hold Real Madrid and Inter to a draw. So the only way to pass to the next stage is to strengthen the defense.

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Quote from: nelson4lov on October 25, 2021, 05:56:37 PM

Sheriff is still very much in the tournament but that's if they can manage to win at least 2 of their last 3 group stage game as that would give them a really good chance against Inter for second place spot. But I would prefer if teams like this are knocked out early in the tournament otherwise, they might just go on to lose it.

First of all, if Inter Milan wants to go to the next round, they have to win this match, otherwise it will be challenging for them to go to the next round. Since Sheriff is now in a stable position. The Sheriff will want to draw their next matches. Their big achievement is that they were able to beat Real Madrid. However, Inter Milan will not give any chance to the Sheriff team, they are an experienced team. They will be able to win the match by reigning.

Sheriff Tiraspol's big chance is only third place, Madrid and Inter even though they are only in second and third place at the moment, but that doesn't mean Madrid and Inter will give up easily. Madrid and Inter have a winning mentality that is no longer in doubt, Sheriff Tiraspol's victory at the start was just an initial surprise that I personally am not sure Sheriff Tiraspol will be able to maintain for the second match against Madrid later. At least it has been proven from yesterday's match when Sheriff Tiraspol lost 3-1 by Inter, maybe Sheriff Tiraspol will still win against Shakhtar Donetsk and it will only make him have 9 points at the end. If Inter can win in their remaining 2 matches against Shakhtar Donetsk and Sheriff Tiraspol then obviously, Inter will have a final 10 points meaning Madrid and Inter are very likely to fill the first and second places.

What Sheriff lacks compared to Real and inter is the experience and the quality players who can change the fate of the match in seconds. Yes, they beat a full-powered Real Madrid at home but although that was a match well played by them, it hardly means that they will be stronger than these 2 in the future matches. So in the longer run, Real and Inter will outplay Sheriff any day of the week. So, I don't think that Sheriff is going to the next round, it will be Real and Inter.

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Quote from: W Jr. on October 25, 2021, 04:02:09 AM

In Group D, the Sheriff's dream will come to an end. Real Madrid and Inter manage to get out of the group.

The sheriff still has plenty of chances to qualify for the knockout stages.
If you look at the rest of the game, it's a tough step for the Sheriff. If they want to qualify they have to fight extra hard. Indeed, on paper Madrid and Inter are very superior, but in football anything can happen. So maybe we can see the determination of qualifying in the final group match.

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Quote from: nelson4lov on October 25, 2021, 05:56:37 PM

Sheriff is still very much in the tournament but that's if they can manage to win at least 2 of their last 3 group stage game as that would give them a really good chance against Inter for second place spot. But I would prefer if teams like this are knocked out early in the tournament otherwise, they might just go on to lose it.

What do you mean by good chances of finishing second? If the Sheriff wins 2 games out of the remaining three, then it will take either first or second place - no other result is possible mathematically. As for your wish, it is almost predetermined - bookmakers evaluate this event with a 1.16 odds. If I remember correctly, even before the match with Inter these odds were 1.25-1.3.

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^ Barcelona is facing some real problems right now because they are in a really bad cycle. If they sell some players in the upcoming transfer window, they might not be able to stay in the top 4, so they won't be able to play champions league, so they will get less money. They can't buy anyone too. They can't even sack their manager because if they sack him, as per rules they have to pay the whole contract length. They can't afford that right now. So I think they just need to survive for 2-3 seasons then get some financial stability. Then Maybe they can buy some players.

Personally, I don’t think Barcelona have time to wait a few years.
Changes in football happen very quickly and if you can’t keep up with those changes, then you fall away as a relevant factor.
Top players want to play in clubs that guarantee them trophies and victories, and they can also pay well.
Personally, if I were a top player and I got an offer from Barcelona, a club that can no longer guarantee trophies and money, and Newcastle that will soon be able to guarantee both trophies and money, I know which club I would choose.
It has already happened in football that some clubs that used to be greats and European champions, such as HSV or Nottingham Forest, later fail and become irrelevant.
Barcelona don't have much time to fix their catastrophic financial situation and avoid such a scenario.

I think I oppose you. I won't say that you are totally wrong, but If I get a contract from both Barca and Newcastle at this moment, I will choose Barce over the other one. Because 2 reasons - 1. I will get the environment for development in Barca and also the PR for me and 2. Newcastle although will offer me a huge amount of money but they are still at least 3 years behind being a top club in Europe as they will need that time to buy players and gain the chemistry among them. So, yes Barca is in a crisis, but at the same time, I don't think they will need more than 2 seasons to recover from this.

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Quote from: nelson4lov on October 25, 2021, 05:56:37 PM

Sheriff is still very much in the tournament but that's if they can manage to win at least 2 of their last 3 group stage game as that would give them a really good chance against Inter for second place spot. But I would prefer if teams like this are knocked out early in the tournament otherwise, they might just go on to lose it.

I think it's going to be difficult for Sheriff. They still have to play against Real Madrid and Inter Milan. Both games are at home which is certainly an advantage, but these two top teams won't underestimate Sheriff again. If Sheriff can win one of the two games, then they have a good chance to reach the next round. I don't think so though. For sure they will continue to play in the Euro League, because I don't think Schachtar will catch up.

Let's say the Sheriff lost to Real Madrid and a draw with Inter Milan is also an advantage for the Sheriff who will qualify but will they be able to hold the top team in Group D at least there is a draw from the two matches?
I said Real Madrid can qualify but will still try for the Italian team who are demanding to win twice otherwise there will be no chance, maybe move to the Europa League.
But I wonder if Inter Milan can be consistent for this difficult game?

I believe Sheriff will be knocked out because Real Madrid and Inter Milan are in fine form, hence it’s difficult to imagine that these two teams will lose or draw against Sheriff.

Also if Inter Milan gets knocked out it’ll be a shocker, because I feel they can cause few upsets in the champions league hence I’m hoping that they can qualify for the next round.

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Quote from: nelson4lov on October 25, 2021, 05:56:37 PM

Sheriff is still very much in the tournament but that's if they can manage to win at least 2 of their last 3 group stage game as that would give them a really good chance against Inter for second place spot. But I would prefer if teams like this are knocked out early in the tournament otherwise, they might just go on to lose it.

I think it's going to be difficult for Sheriff. They still have to play against Real Madrid and Inter Milan. Both games are at home which is certainly an advantage, but these two top teams won't underestimate Sheriff again. If Sheriff can win one of the two games, then they have a good chance to reach the next round. I don't think so though. For sure they will continue to play in the Euro League, because I don't think Schachtar will catch up.

Let's say the Sheriff lost to Real Madrid and a draw with Inter Milan is also an advantage for the Sheriff who will qualify but will they be able to hold the top team in Group D at least there is a draw from the two matches?
I said Real Madrid can qualify but will still try for the Italian team who are demanding to win twice otherwise there will be no chance, maybe move to the Europa League.
But I wonder if Inter Milan can be consistent for this difficult game?

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Quote from: nelson4lov on October 25, 2021, 05:56:37 PM

Sheriff is still very much in the tournament but that's if they can manage to win at least 2 of their last 3 group stage game as that would give them a really good chance against Inter for second place spot. But I would prefer if teams like this are knocked out early in the tournament otherwise, they might just go on to lose it.

I think it's going to be difficult for Sheriff. They still have to play against Real Madrid and Inter Milan. Both games are at home which is certainly an advantage, but these two top teams won't underestimate Sheriff again. If Sheriff can win one of the two games, then they have a good chance to reach the next round. I don't think so though. For sure they will continue to play in the Euro League, because I don't think Schachtar will catch up.

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Quote from: W Jr. on October 25, 2021, 04:02:09 AM

In Group D, the Sheriff's dream will come to an end. Real Madrid and Inter manage to get out of the group.

The Sheriff still has hope while Inter must not make any more mistakes with a draw this will threaten Inter Milan not to qualify so the competition in Group D with the Sheriff will continue until the next match between Inter vs Sheriff.
The Sheriff and Madrid have 6 points if they both win then that goes to the next round, so Inter Milan are still trying to win this is a big challenge and Simone Inzhage should be able to take their team through as well.

Sheriff is still very much in the tournament but that's if they can manage to win at least 2 of their last 3 group stage game as that would give them a really good chance against Inter for second place spot. But I would prefer if teams like this are knocked out early in the tournament otherwise, they might just go on to lose it.

yes right now the sheriff only need a few more wins to be able to lock their qualification to the next round, but to be honest I'm not sure if the sheriffs will be able to repeat their prowess in the second leg match later, moreover they have suffered defeat from the previous intermilan and intermilan who need a win of course will return to playing like when they defeated the sheriff 3-1, while real madrid which is now starting to rise will also not be easily defeated by the sheriff and I see that only shaktar may be the sherrif weakest opponent in the second leg.

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