Topic: UEFA Champions League Discussion Thread - page 646. (Read 129794 times)
In three days, Milan are going to be having a home match against Atletico Madrid. Zlatan has an achilles tendon injury and his return date is not known. But Milan are doing just fine without him too. Atletico Madrid are having a bad period lately and they can have a big difficulty against an in-form Milan here. These two haven't played against each other since 2014. According to the odds, Atletico Madrid are favoured by a little gap. But I don't think that Milan will lose this match.
For me PSG is a money bag and nothing more, I would not compare this team with Inter or Milan. PSG is more like City but in bad shape right now. Maybe if Mbappé thinks more about the game and not about the transition to Real, Neymar is more to play than to pretend and Messi somehow integrates into the team PSG will represent a strong contender for victory in the Champions League.
It's sad these three fishes are finding it difficult to arrive at a consensus. Could Mbape be the problem or the coach? I am asking because Neymar has played alongside Messi in Barcelona and the duo were incredible. It will be a shame if these three cannot atleast take PSG to UCL finals.
However, PSG against City is going in favour of City due to the unstable nature of PSG attack.
Hearing the news that PSG's UCL match will be without Messi I wonder if they can beat Manchester City or will it be very difficult without Messi?
I'm still confused about PSG with so many options but when playing in the UCL it's like it's very difficult to win.
Hearing the news that PSG's UCL match will be without Messi I wonder if they can beat Manchester City or will it be very difficult without Messi?
I'm still confused about PSG with so many options but when playing in the UCL it's like it's very difficult to win.
You talk as if the whole PSG strategy is based on Messi ... which in fact is fundamentally wrong. The French can easily beat Manchester City as they beat Bayern Munich before (without Messi), and honestly speaking, he would not hurt a respite given his disregard for the coach, (by a respite I mean a forced bench). In addition, this week will be really tense for City, because Guardiola fielded the entire main squad against Chelsea and their next game will be with Liverpool, which makes me think that City will have to sacrifice something. So in terms of money, Guardiola will definitely prefer the Premier League to the Champions League. I'm still confused about PSG with so many options but when playing in the UCL it's like it's very difficult to win.
I was expecting Lukaku to perform some magic at the start of their game against M.City, but I was disappointed, but despite the fact that M.City achieved victory and claiming England champions, they had numerous chances to score but failed to net the ball.
The table can still swing in Chelsea's favor, as the gap between Manchester City and Chelsea is too little. I'll be thrilled if things go Chelsea's way.
In my previous post, I mentioned that I had a funny feeling Koeman would be replace if things doesn't go well after their last game, it's a bit harsh to recruit 5 manager, the league is still in the early stages of play.
The table can still swing in Chelsea's favor, as the gap between Manchester City and Chelsea is too little. I'll be thrilled if things go Chelsea's way.
The directors has held a meeting after the first loss, I hope they don't make a substitute to Ronald Koeman, it will be a tearing time for Barcelona, It's too early to point out big moves through.
In my previous post, I mentioned that I had a funny feeling Koeman would be replace if things doesn't go well after their last game, it's a bit harsh to recruit 5 manager, the league is still in the early stages of play.
For me PSG is a money bag and nothing more, I would not compare this team with Inter or Milan. PSG is more like City but in bad shape right now. Maybe if Mbappé thinks more about the game and not about the transition to Real, Neymar is more to play than to pretend and Messi somehow integrates into the team PSG will represent a strong contender for victory in the Champions League.
It's sad these three fishes are finding it difficult to arrive at a consensus. Could Mbape be the problem or the coach? I am asking because Neymar has played alongside Messi in Barcelona and the duo were incredible. It will be a shame if these three cannot atleast take PSG to UCL finals.
However, PSG against City is going in favour of City due to the unstable nature of PSG attack.
Hearing the news that PSG's UCL match will be without Messi I wonder if they can beat Manchester City or will it be very difficult without Messi?
I'm still confused about PSG with so many options but when playing in the UCL it's like it's very difficult to win.
I wonder whether Sporting will be able to resist against Dortmund in some way. As you can remember, they were erased by Ajax with a 5-1 result. And it was even a home match for Sporting. I'm really curious about what's wrong with them. They are the last champions in the Liga Portugal. They should fight for getting points. But I only saw a desperate team against Ajax. And their match against Dortmund is going to be away. If they have big problems on their defense again, Dortmund would do the same thing to them also. Haaland would really like to score many goals against them.
For me PSG is a money bag and nothing more, I would not compare this team with Inter or Milan. PSG is more like City but in bad shape right now. Maybe if Mbappé thinks more about the game and not about the transition to Real, Neymar is more to play than to pretend and Messi somehow integrates into the team PSG will represent a strong contender for victory in the Champions League.
It's sad these three fishes are finding it difficult to arrive at a consensus. Could Mbape be the problem or the coach? I am asking because Neymar has played alongside Messi in Barcelona and the duo were incredible. It will be a shame if these three cannot atleast take PSG to UCL finals.
However, PSG against City is going in favour of City due to the unstable nature of PSG attack.
We have a great game next week which is PSG vs Manchester City.
I see that PSG are struggling to get wins lately. I know that they have won their first 7 games in the Ligue 1. But their last results are really interesting. They barely managed to win their last two games against Lyon and Metz for example. They won both of them with last minute goals. This is not very good for a team like PSG. And we know also that they drew with Club Brugge also in the Champions League in their first game. With or without Messi, there is an in-team problem and they need to get rid of it. Otherwise, I don't see their chance being really big against City here. City might not lose this game.
I see that PSG are struggling to get wins lately. I know that they have won their first 7 games in the Ligue 1. But their last results are really interesting. They barely managed to win their last two games against Lyon and Metz for example. They won both of them with last minute goals. This is not very good for a team like PSG. And we know also that they drew with Club Brugge also in the Champions League in their first game. With or without Messi, there is an in-team problem and they need to get rid of it. Otherwise, I don't see their chance being really big against City here. City might not lose this game.
@CLS63 Manchester City are not unstoppable as we saw last week when they drew against Southampton, and it’s clear that both the teams have strong squad but yet they’re equally weak too and thus this makes it an open contest.
Also there’s a sad update that Messi is being reported injured and may not play against City, and it looks like City fans are having a fun day at his expense.
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https://www.si.com/soccer/manchestercity/news/scared-of-dias-finished-player-plenty-of-man-city-fans-react-to-lionel-messi-injury-update-ahead-of-psg-clash
It is true that Manchester City are not unstoppable. But I see them being one step ahead of PSG in terms of having a better in-team chemistry. It is of course sad to hear that Messi will not be able to play. But like I said he still isn't ready for this game plan and he is trying to adapt. I assume that PSG will have the Neymar - Icardi - Mbappe trio in this game. Both teams shouldn't have big problems on scoring. But at the end, PSG might not be able to win this game.
Perhaps that's the issue for PSG but on the other hand, these three players should not be the problem since they are the best. The only issue IMO is that someone has to mark when PSG defending and none of them do it. Maybe Pochettino considers changing the formation a bit, he knows Man City very well...
Of course it's very interesting, I look forward to City winning. Pep has more experience than Pochettino. Maybe 1-0 to City.Apart from that I am interested in other matches.
1. Juventus vs Chelsea.
2. Manchester United vs Villarreal.
I chose Chelsea and Manchester United to win. Their squad looks better at the moment.
Manchester United, after losing the Europe League trophy to Villarreal last season, will be facing them in the Champion League. The match Is a winning match for Manchester United.
I absolutely agree with you
it didn't start very well in the Serie A championship, so we can see that they still have a lot of work to do
I don't think this is the right year to win
this is a year of building
Perhaps that's the issue for PSG but on the other hand, these three players should not be the problem since they are the best. The only issue IMO is that someone has to mark when PSG defending and none of them do it. Maybe Pochettino considers changing the formation a bit, he knows Man City very well...
Of course it's very interesting, I look forward to City winning. Pep has more experience than Pochettino. Maybe 1-0 to City.Apart from that I am interested in other matches.
1. Juventus vs Chelsea.
2. Manchester United vs Villarreal.
I chose Chelsea and Manchester United to win. Their squad looks better at the moment.
Manchester United, after losing the Europe League trophy to Villarreal last season, will be facing them in the Champion League. The match Is a winning match for Manchester United.
It seems to me that the home championship is not as important to City as the Champions League in this case! Probably in the match against Chelsea some players won't perform or play for a long time...
I think City will beat PSG too! All their stars don't matter if the team has no interaction!
The reason why City cares about UCL so much is that they have managed to win premier league multiple times under Pep Guardiola but never won UCL during that same period. Which means that the only cup they are missing right now is UCL and if they can get that as well then the journey will be completed (not that he needs to leave, but he got what he wanted so he wouldn't have high goals).I think City will beat PSG too! All their stars don't matter if the team has no interaction!
I would assume that Kane would have been an amazing addition for UCL, without him they could still win Premier League, they won it without him so many times now, however with him they would have been great at UCL, that is why they were willing to spend 100+ million on a single player, just for UCL.
Perhaps that's the issue for PSG but on the other hand, these three players should not be the problem since they are the best. The only issue IMO is that someone has to mark when PSG defending and none of them do it. Maybe Pochettino considers changing the formation a bit, he knows Man City very well...
Of course it's very interesting, I look forward to City winning. Pep has more experience than Pochettino. Maybe 1-0 to City.Apart from that I am interested in other matches.
1. Juventus vs Chelsea.
2. Manchester United vs Villarreal.
I chose Chelsea and Manchester United to win. Their squad looks better at the moment.
Also there’s a sad update that Messi is being reported injured and may not play against City, and it looks like City fans are having a fun day at his expense.
I think against City it will make a difference for PSG compared to the first game. PSG players will concentrate more on winning this match. PSG's failure in the first match, could be because the players underestimated their opponents. Of course it will be different when dealing with big teams, players will be more excited to compete and focus to win from the start. but if they are lose, and Club Brugge win over Leipzig, they are still can be strong candidate for qualified club to the next phase.and in the second match in the group phase, I think PSG should start to be better at taking the initiative and build better cooperation, especially in the front lines, where it seems that the players have their own level of selfishness.
On the other hand, I think it will be quite an exciting match considering that these two clubs are currently labeled as rich clubs and their players cannot be underestimated because they already have famous names.
Well there is a lot of difference between these teams, what happens is that most of the attention is focused on the fact that for now PSG does not have Messi, and Messi is not the only good player there, we cannot underestimate Neymar, Mbappé, the City may feel superior, but they cannot be trusted, many were waiting for City to arrive at CR7 to be a much stronger team, PSG even if they lose 1 or 2 games is something normal, I do not think it means that they are falling into the lowest, these teams currently in the UCL are becoming very strong.
Of course it's very interesting, I look forward to City winning. Pep has more experience than Pochettino. Maybe 1-0 to City.
Apart from that I am interested in other matches.
1. Juventus vs Chelsea.
2. Manchester United vs Villarreal.
I chose Chelsea and Manchester United to win. Their squad looks better at the moment.
Apart from that I am interested in other matches.
1. Juventus vs Chelsea.
2. Manchester United vs Villarreal.
I chose Chelsea and Manchester United to win. Their squad looks better at the moment.
I miss the days when we'd see fixtures like Juventus vs Chelsea and make conclusions about Juve winning with no problem almost like a guaranteed result. They're still yet to get their first win this season iirc. Definitely a Chelsea win. Man Utd should get their revenge against a Villarreal team. They've a better squad. Hopefully Tuchel won't mess things up.
For me PSG is a money bag and nothing more, I would not compare this team with Inter or Milan. PSG is more like City but in bad shape right now. Maybe if Mbappé thinks more about the game and not about the transition to Real, Neymar is more to play than to pretend and Messi somehow integrates into the team PSG will represent a strong contender for victory in the Champions League.
Messi needs more time to get used to the new team and the way of playing. It will take a couple of months if not more. Last year, and in Barcelona, Messi took several months to get in optimal shape and start showing the game that is expected of him. Mbappe is already thinking in Madrid, and you shouldn't expect an enchanting game from him this season.
I think that it's not only about getting used to it, but about the realization that the old days have passed and due to age it will no longer be possible to be top-1. He need to benefit the team and not wait for the whole team to play on him, PSG has such a strong line-up that the competition is strong for every position.
In general, I will refrain from betting in the PSG - City match due to its randomness, but I think, given the difficult situation of PSG, it will be very interesting.
Also there’s a sad update that Messi is being reported injured and may not play against City, and it looks like City fans are having a fun day at his expense.
I think against City it will make a difference for PSG compared to the first game. PSG players will concentrate more on winning this match. PSG's failure in the first match, could be because the players underestimated their opponents. Of course it will be different when dealing with big teams, players will be more excited to compete and focus to win from the start. but if they are lose, and Club Brugge win over Leipzig, they are still can be strong candidate for qualified club to the next phase.and in the second match in the group phase, I think PSG should start to be better at taking the initiative and build better cooperation, especially in the front lines, where it seems that the players have their own level of selfishness.
On the other hand, I think it will be quite an exciting match considering that these two clubs are currently labeled as rich clubs and their players cannot be underestimated because they already have famous names.
It seems to me that the home championship is not as important to City as the Champions League in this case! Probably in the match against Chelsea some players won't perform or play for a long time...
I think City will beat PSG too! All their stars don't matter if the team has no interaction!
The reason why City cares about UCL so much is that they have managed to win premier league multiple times under Pep Guardiola but never won UCL during that same period. Which means that the only cup they are missing right now is UCL and if they can get that as well then the journey will be completed (not that he needs to leave, but he got what he wanted so he wouldn't have high goals).I think City will beat PSG too! All their stars don't matter if the team has no interaction!
I would assume that Kane would have been an amazing addition for UCL, without him they could still win Premier League, they won it without him so many times now, however with him they would have been great at UCL, that is why they were willing to spend 100+ million on a single player, just for UCL.
Of course it's very interesting, I look forward to City winning. Pep has more experience than Pochettino. Maybe 1-0 to City.
Apart from that I am interested in other matches.
1. Juventus vs Chelsea.
2. Manchester United vs Villarreal.
I chose Chelsea and Manchester United to win. Their squad looks better at the moment.
Pep Guardiola has very good experience and has even led a winning team with Barcelona, while PSG have a myriad of talented players from striker to defense and goalkeeper, however Pochettino must be able to take advantage of opportunities where he is surrounded by talented players.Apart from that I am interested in other matches.
1. Juventus vs Chelsea.
2. Manchester United vs Villarreal.
I chose Chelsea and Manchester United to win. Their squad looks better at the moment.
In other games I'm pretty sure Chelsea can beat Juventus.
Manchester United is also capable of overthrowing Villareal. I'm sure if there is Ronaldo, Manchester United will have a good improvement.
Perhaps that's the issue for PSG but on the other hand, these three players should not be the problem since they are the best. The only issue IMO is that someone has to mark when PSG defending and none of them do it. Maybe Pochettino considers changing the formation a bit, he knows Man City very well...
Of course it's very interesting, I look forward to City winning. Pep has more experience than Pochettino. Maybe 1-0 to City.Apart from that I am interested in other matches.
1. Juventus vs Chelsea.
2. Manchester United vs Villarreal.
I chose Chelsea and Manchester United to win. Their squad looks better at the moment.
The teams approach this match in different situations - City has 3 points, and PSG have two lost in the match with an outsider. Therefore, the defeat for PSG will be very alarming, so they will play almost at the limit. But will City tense up? Even if they lose, they still have a home game against PSG and potentially better results against the other two teams. Therefore, if we assume that City is much stronger than PSG now, but will not play to the limit of their capabilities, and PSG will be, then PSG may draw or win.
PSG is a somewhat particular team
let's say, if you want, it's a bit like Inter Milan
rich in talents, little amalgamated with each other
the problem is that they can play crap or if they are inspired to become a tank
For me PSG is a money bag and nothing more, I would not compare this team with Inter or Milan. PSG is more like City but in bad shape right now. Maybe if Mbappé thinks more about the game and not about the transition to Real, Neymar is more to play than to pretend and Messi somehow integrates into the team PSG will represent a strong contender for victory in the Champions League.
Messi needs more time to get used to the new team and the way of playing. It will take a couple of months if not more. Last year, and in Barcelona, Messi took several months to get in optimal shape and start showing the game that is expected of him. Mbappe is already thinking in Madrid, and you shouldn't expect an enchanting game from him this season.
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he needs time, because he has played for many years with only one team with a new style
it is completely normal that a few months must pass before it gives its best
give it time and you will see that it will return to do magic
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