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Quote from: Bilgent on September 21, 2021, 11:05:09 AM

I really don't understand what Messi was up to. I know that Guardiola didn't beg him for him to come to Manchester City. But I'm pretty sure that he would be very OK to see his old player at his new team. But Messi still didn't want to go there and chose the wrong way I think. Because Manchester City had the same game plan that Messi was already accustomed to. If he was at Manchester City now, he would adapt to the team very quickly and he would have a bigger chance to achieve the Champions League title too.

In the English championship, historically tougher wrestling and contact football, technical players without good physical data for wrestling suffer greatly here, so Messi did everything right, this championship is not for him.

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Interestingly enough, even when playing away, City is considered the favorite in the upcoming game, judging by the chances of the bookmakers:
2.79 - 3.86 -2.44

No surprise with the odds. Man City looks more "compact" and dominant even though they do not have the biggest names. This could turn out to be an embarrassing loss for PSG to be honest but let's see how this goes. I will try to watch for this game and bet live. I am hoping PSG to take the lead early in the first half to have betters odds for Man City.

Perhaps if these were matches in the playoff series, I would bet on City, but this is not an important match and it is unlikely that they will give their best at 100%. A draw here seems to me the most likely outcome.

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Quote from: NotATether on September 22, 2021, 02:09:40 AM

Quote from: blackened515 on September 22, 2021, 02:01:49 AM

...I can't wait to see what Messi have to offer in the game. I guess, he will probably score.

You mean, if he is fit in time against City (he sustained a minor injury during the match against Lyon and is a doubt for this game).

I think the match against Manchester City will be a real testament to PSG in the Champions League competition, moreover they got a negative result in their first match, I think both of them will certainly field their best squad in the next match and it is certain that Messi will return to be one of the hopes for PSG to be able to win.
So far, Messi condition is good and there is no news that he was injured after the game against Lyon, as far as I know, Messi was sent off in the Lyon match because Pochettino didn't want Messi to get injured in the sense that Messi was not injured at all.

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Quote from: blackened515 on September 22, 2021, 02:01:49 AM

The match will indeed be tough, as both teams have strong squad. But, i don't think Man City will win. To me, the match is likely to end draw. And more over, is a home match for PSG, they will try their possible best not to lose, not after been dropped out of the Champion League last season by Manchester City. However, i will be betting Over 2.5 , because many goals will be scored. I can't wait to see what Messi have to offer in the game. I guess, he will probably score.

If I consider the performance of the last few matches, I can see that the performance of Manchester City is much more stable than that of PSG. Manchester City scored 6 goals against Leipzig. PSG needs Ramos in this match. PSG's attack has not been very active in the last few matches. They can't attack too much. They must solve all the problems before playing against Manchester City. Otherwise, PSG will suffer a miserable defeat. This is Coach Guardiola's team. It cannot be considered weak.

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Quote from: blackened515 on September 22, 2021, 02:01:49 AM

...I can't wait to see what Messi have to offer in the game. I guess, he will probably score.

You mean, if he is fit in time against City (he sustained a minor injury during the match against Lyon and is a doubt for this game).

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Quote from: Lordhermes on September 21, 2021, 11:44:09 PM

Quote from: alegotardo on September 21, 2021, 01:04:58 PM

Quote from: Yogee on September 21, 2021, 11:18:20 AM

No surprise with the odds. Man City looks more "compact" and dominant even though they do not have the biggest names. This could turn out to be an embarrassing loss for PSG to be honest but let's see how this goes. I will try to watch for this game and bet live. I am hoping PSG to take the lead early in the first half to have betters odds for Man City.

I also agree, because at first PSG never beat City in those 5 matches they played together (correct me if I'm wrong). In the last semi-final, PSG lost both games.
However, at theat time PSG didn't have Mbappé Messi and Neymar together, and maybe it's a good opportunity to bet against the statistics, put faith in PSG and hope for a victory against City to earn some good money?
I don't like bet against stats, but I'm tempted to go with PSG, who else?

That encounter is really going to be a tough game to watch,a tough match for Mancity and PSG.Nevertheless,with the big names that PSG have in their disposal,the likes of Messi,Mbape and Neymar,they will hoping for a win,but trust me,Mancity is going to destroy them with goals.It is a straight over 2.5 match to play,and it is a direct win for Mancity trust me.The three wise men infront of PSG attack have not blended,they not understood each other's pattern,so that is where the problem is going come from,and that will allow Mancity to defeat them.

The match will indeed be tough, as both teams have strong squad. But, i don't think Man City will win. To me, the match is likely to end draw. And more over, is a home match for PSG, they will try their possible best not to lose, not after been dropped out of the Champion League last season by Manchester City. However, i will be betting Over 2.5 , because many goals will be scored. I can't wait to see what Messi have to offer in the game. I guess, he will probably score.

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Quote from: Lordhermes on September 21, 2021, 11:44:09 PM

Quote from: alegotardo on September 21, 2021, 01:04:58 PM

Quote from: Yogee on September 21, 2021, 11:18:20 AM

No surprise with the odds. Man City looks more "compact" and dominant even though they do not have the biggest names. This could turn out to be an embarrassing loss for PSG to be honest but let's see how this goes. I will try to watch for this game and bet live. I am hoping PSG to take the lead early in the first half to have betters odds for Man City.

I also agree, because at first PSG never beat City in those 5 matches they played together (correct me if I'm wrong). In the last semi-final, PSG lost both games.
However, at theat time PSG didn't have Mbappé Messi and Neymar together, and maybe it's a good opportunity to bet against the statistics, put faith in PSG and hope for a victory against City to earn some good money?
I don't like bet against stats, but I'm tempted to go with PSG, who else?

That encounter is really going to be a tough game to watch,a tough match for Mancity and PSG.Nevertheless,with the big names that PSG have in their disposal,the likes of Messi,Mbape and Neymar,they will hoping for a win,but trust me,Mancity is going to destroy them with goals.It is a straight over 2.5 match to play,and it is a direct win for Mancity trust me.The three wise men infront of PSG attack have not blended,they not understood each other's pattern,so that is where the problem is going come from,and that will allow Mancity to defeat them.

@alegotardo, if you take a closer look at the statistics it's a fact that Mbappe and Neymar already existed and played for PSG last season in the PSG vs Manchester City match. The result was that PSG lost 1-2 and 2-0 and now, with PSG's attacking line-up already Messi is there and I agree with what @Lordhermes said they haven't blended in and don't understand each other. With these many shortcomings, I personally will also favor Manchester City because even from the previous match, which was only against a team that was far below PSG, PSG couldn't win the match and it showed that their cooperation was not perfect. And one more thing, Manchester City is a big team with famous players and coaches, I was surprised by what @Yogee said about not having a big name. Shocked

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Quote from: alegotardo on September 21, 2021, 01:04:58 PM

Quote from: Yogee on September 21, 2021, 11:18:20 AM

No surprise with the odds. Man City looks more "compact" and dominant even though they do not have the biggest names. This could turn out to be an embarrassing loss for PSG to be honest but let's see how this goes. I will try to watch for this game and bet live. I am hoping PSG to take the lead early in the first half to have betters odds for Man City.

I also agree, because at first PSG never beat City in those 5 matches they played together (correct me if I'm wrong). In the last semi-final, PSG lost both games.
However, at theat time PSG didn't have Mbappé Messi and Neymar together, and maybe it's a good opportunity to bet against the statistics, put faith in PSG and hope for a victory against City to earn some good money?
I don't like bet against stats, but I'm tempted to go with PSG, who else?

That encounter is really going to be a tough game to watch,a tough match for Mancity and PSG.Nevertheless,with the big names that PSG have in their disposal,the likes of Messi,Mbape and Neymar,they will hoping for a win,but trust me,Mancity is going to destroy them with goals.It is a straight over 2.5 match to play,and it is a direct win for Mancity trust me.The three wise men infront of PSG attack have not blended,they not understood each other's pattern,so that is where the problem is going come from,and that will allow Mancity to defeat them.

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Quote from: Yogee on September 21, 2021, 11:18:20 AM

No surprise with the odds. Man City looks more "compact" and dominant even though they do not have the biggest names. This could turn out to be an embarrassing loss for PSG to be honest but let's see how this goes. I will try to watch for this game and bet live. I am hoping PSG to take the lead early in the first half to have betters odds for Man City.

I also agree, because at first PSG never beat City in those 5 matches they played together (correct me if I'm wrong). In the last semi-final, PSG lost both games.
However, at theat time PSG didn't have Mbappé Messi and Neymar together, and maybe it's a good opportunity to bet against the statistics, put faith in PSG and hope for a victory against City to earn some good money?
I don't like bet against stats, but I'm tempted to go with PSG, who else?

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Quote from: Bilgent on September 20, 2021, 03:49:12 PM

We are one week away from the PSG - Manchester City game. This will also be a great game and the game of the week most probably. For now, it seems like PSG's great trio don't play the way we want. Because Messi is still making an effort to adapt to the game plan. After he starts playing like always, they can be unstoppable. But now, Manchester City are one step ahead I think. But I have no doubt that we will still watch a competitive game. I expect each team to score.

I don’t think this will happen because I don’t see young Iniesta and Xavi in PSG, and Neymar and Mbappe will not play concentrating on one Messi Wink

Interestingly enough, even when playing away, City is considered the favorite in the upcoming game, judging by the chances of the bookmakers:
2.79 - 3.86 -2.44

No surprise with the odds. Man City looks more "compact" and dominant even though they do not have the biggest names. This could turn out to be an embarrassing loss for PSG to be honest but let's see how this goes. I will try to watch for this game and bet live. I am hoping PSG to take the lead early in the first half to have betters odds for Man City.

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Quote from: kayiboyu on September 21, 2021, 10:41:44 AM

Considering the next matches, Juventus - Chelsea match could be one of the interesting ones. As you all know, Juventus have been having a bad period for a long time. They still have no win in the Serie A. But they started the Champions League good at least by defeating Malmo 3-0 away. But Malmo are not a big opponent of course. We will see them against Chelsea too. Chelsea have had an awesome form recently. They are destroying their opponents one by one. Their last victim was Tottenham. And I think that Juventus will be the another victim even if it is a home match for Juventus. I think that Chelsea will defeat them by one goal.

Malmo very often underperforming in the UCL history, so Juventus victory is not because Juventus have returned to their best form, but because malmo are too weak for them. If we are looking from against AC Milan in the last match, despite the good performance from Maignan, Juventus still had a hard to winning the game and only managed to get 1 point. As against Chelsea, Juventus can lose their confidence considering Chelsea have performed better since last season, and as the reigning UCL champions. This is an advantage for Chelsea to beat Juventus.

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Quote from: AndySt on September 20, 2021, 07:04:47 PM

The Champions League is a separate event and the mood of the teams can change dramatically on the eve and during these matches, so I would not immediately give preference to Manchester City. Firstly, the game will be held in Paris, which may give some advantage to the Paris club. Secondly, willy-nilly, Paris Saint-Germain is slowly rolling into the season and the club's game should also gradually improve. Just from the second point of the story, the third point arises that Messi should slowly join the team and bring more benefits to the club's game, which can have an impact already in this match. By the way, City's game at this stage is also not perfect, so the prerequisites for fighting in a single match seem to be present.

Clash in early of Champions League and in group stage is not much exciting. Purposes of teams are getting tickets to the next round and it is best if they can end in first position of their groups. However, it is not a mandatory mission and sometimes ending a group stage in second position can be better.

Messi need more time and more matches to really become a part of PSG team. He does not have good connections with other players in PSG and time will help him to build it up gradually.

This match will be interesting because Messi will meet Pep and fight with Manchester City, the club that wanted to have him very much. Finally, Messi decided to join PSG and rejected chances to reunite with Pep in Manchester City.

I really don't understand what Messi was up to. I know that Guardiola didn't beg him for him to come to Manchester City. But I'm pretty sure that he would be very OK to see his old player at his new team. But Messi still didn't want to go there and chose the wrong way I think. Because Manchester City had the same game plan that Messi was already accustomed to. If he was at Manchester City now, he would adapt to the team very quickly and he would have a bigger chance to achieve the Champions League title too.

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Quote from: hd49728 on September 21, 2021, 10:29:14 AM

Clash in early of Champions League and in group stage is not much exciting. Purposes of teams are getting tickets to the next round and it is best if they can end in first position of their groups. However, it is not a mandatory mission and sometimes ending a group stage in second position can be better.

Messi need more time and more matches to really become a part of PSG team. He does not have good connections with other players in PSG and time will help him to build it up gradually.

This match will be interesting because Messi will meet Pep and fight with Manchester City, the club that wanted to have him very much. Finally, Messi decided to join PSG and rejected chances to reunite with Pep in Manchester City.

Although this is only in the preliminary round, it will be a very interesting match because the big teams that meet are PSG and Mancity.

I just saw the news from my local news, according to him Messi will miss the match against Mancity because he is currently being examined for his knee injury from yesterday's game with Lyon but it is not certain whether he will be absent or not.
What is clear is that this is a moment where everyone wants to know Messi's contribution to this match.

But I hope Messi will recover soon and defend his team back in the UCL.

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Considering the next matches, Juventus - Chelsea match could be one of the interesting ones. As you all know, Juventus have been having a bad period for a long time. They still have no win in the Serie A. But they started the Champions League good at least by defeating Malmo 3-0 away. But Malmo are not a big opponent of course. We will see them against Chelsea too. Chelsea have had an awesome form recently. They are destroying their opponents one by one. Their last victim was Tottenham. And I think that Juventus will be the another victim even if it is a home match for Juventus. I think that Chelsea will defeat them by one goal.

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Quote from: AndySt on September 20, 2021, 07:04:47 PM

The Champions League is a separate event and the mood of the teams can change dramatically on the eve and during these matches, so I would not immediately give preference to Manchester City. Firstly, the game will be held in Paris, which may give some advantage to the Paris club. Secondly, willy-nilly, Paris Saint-Germain is slowly rolling into the season and the club's game should also gradually improve. Just from the second point of the story, the third point arises that Messi should slowly join the team and bring more benefits to the club's game, which can have an impact already in this match. By the way, City's game at this stage is also not perfect, so the prerequisites for fighting in a single match seem to be present.

Clash in early of Champions League and in group stage is not much exciting. Purposes of teams are getting tickets to the next round and it is best if they can end in first position of their groups. However, it is not a mandatory mission and sometimes ending a group stage in second position can be better.

Messi need more time and more matches to really become a part of PSG team. He does not have good connections with other players in PSG and time will help him to build it up gradually.

This match will be interesting because Messi will meet Pep and fight with Manchester City, the club that wanted to have him very much. Finally, Messi decided to join PSG and rejected chances to reunite with Pep in Manchester City.

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Quote from: Bilgent on September 20, 2021, 03:49:12 PM

We are one week away from the PSG - Manchester City game. This will also be a great game and the game of the week most probably. For now, it seems like PSG's great trio don't play the way we want. Because Messi is still making an effort to adapt to the game plan. After he starts playing like always, they can be unstoppable. But now, Manchester City are one step ahead I think. But I have no doubt that we will still watch a competitive game. I expect each team to score.

I don’t think this will happen because I don’t see young Iniesta and Xavi in PSG, and Neymar and Mbappe will not play concentrating on one Messi Wink

Interestingly enough, even when playing away, City is considered the favorite in the upcoming game, judging by the chances of the bookmakers:
2.79 - 3.86 -2.44

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Quote from: Bilgent on September 20, 2021, 03:49:12 PM

We are one week away from the PSG - Manchester City game. This will also be a great game and the game of the week most probably. For now, it seems like PSG's great trio don't play the way we want. Because Messi is still making an effort to adapt to the game plan. After he starts playing like always, they can be unstoppable. But now, Manchester City are one step ahead I think. But I have no doubt that we will still watch a competitive game. I expect each team to score.

The draw that PSG got against the weak club brugge team in the first match will certainly greatly affect the mentality of the players, especially Lionel Messi CS when facing Manchester city in the second match this week, which is not easy considering Manchester city is on fire, how about they successfully slaughtered the German representative RB Leipzig with a landslide score of 6-3, if PSG are still not able to show their best performance this season then it is not impossible if Pep Guardiola's team will be very easy to beat them in the second match of the Champions League group stage next week

The Champions League is a separate event and the mood of the teams can change dramatically on the eve and during these matches, so I would not immediately give preference to Manchester City. Firstly, the game will be held in Paris, which may give some advantage to the Paris club. Secondly, willy-nilly, Paris Saint-Germain is slowly rolling into the season and the club's game should also gradually improve. Just from the second point of the story, the third point arises that Messi should slowly join the team and bring more benefits to the club's game, which can have an impact already in this match. By the way, City's game at this stage is also not perfect, so the prerequisites for fighting in a single match seem to be present.

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Quote from: Bilgent on September 20, 2021, 03:49:12 PM

We are one week away from the PSG - Manchester City game. This will also be a great game and the game of the week most probably. For now, it seems like PSG's great trio don't play the way we want. Because Messi is still making an effort to adapt to the game plan. After he starts playing like always, they can be unstoppable. But now, Manchester City are one step ahead I think. But I have no doubt that we will still watch a competitive game. I expect each team to score.

The Citizens has all it takes to contest in this season's UCL. As usual they are good in scoring alot of goals. Just that I am seeing some signs of inconsistencies in their EPL performance. With regards to the men of Paris, man City team is stable and has alot of coordination and understanding unlike the PSG team. Definitely they will win the match.
I am looking at 3goals to 1.

If PSG can learn to play two out of their three stars at a time it will be fine. Make one to be a super sub unless in rare matches. These 3 gaints seems to weaken the team than strengthen it to my understanding. I don't know why.

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Quote from: Bilgent on September 20, 2021, 03:49:12 PM

We are one week away from the PSG - Manchester City game. This will also be a great game and the game of the week most probably. For now, it seems like PSG's great trio don't play the way we want. Because Messi is still making an effort to adapt to the game plan. After he starts playing like always, they can be unstoppable. But now, Manchester City are one step ahead I think. But I have no doubt that we will still watch a competitive game. I expect each team to score.

The draw that PSG got against the weak club brugge team in the first match will certainly greatly affect the mentality of the players, especially Lionel Messi CS when facing Manchester city in the second match this week, which is not easy considering Manchester city is on fire, how about they successfully slaughtered the German representative RB Leipzig with a landslide score of 6-3, if PSG are still not able to show their best performance this season then it is not impossible if Pep Guardiola's team will be very easy to beat them in the second match of the Champions League group stage next week

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We are one week away from the PSG - Manchester City game. This will also be a great game and the game of the week most probably. For now, it seems like PSG's great trio don't play the way we want. Because Messi is still making an effort to adapt to the game plan. After he starts playing like always, they can be unstoppable. But now, Manchester City are one step ahead I think. But I have no doubt that we will still watch a competitive game. I expect each team to score.

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I think that Liverpool - Milan game was quite emotional. I still remember the Champions League finale in 2005 between these two teams. Liverpool made an insane comeback from 3-0 then and even won the title after the penalty shoot-outs. And they played against each other in 2007 in this tournament again. But they didn't play since 2007 until this game. This was a meaningful game for both teams. And I must admit that we watched another very exciting and delightful game. Each team got ahead in the game but Liverpool managed to be the winner at the end by 3-2. What a game it was!

although liverpol did not buy new players this year, and liverpol still relies on the wrong trio, mane and firmino, but liverpol is still a strong team, a team that is still feared by opponents, the proof is that liverpool was able to beat ac milan, in the group phase, and me I'm sure liverpol can definitely do a lot in the champions league, my prediction this year liverpool is able to compete to get the champion champion..

at this time Liverpool are still the leading team to win the Champions League trophy this season even though they are not too big in the transfer market this season as some of their rivals like Chelsea and Manchester united have done, because I think Liverpool are still the favorite team with the squad.which they have now, where their trio like Mohamed Salah Sadio Mane and Firmino can still show their sharpness in front of goal where they successfully silenced AC Milan with a score of 3-2 at Anfield stadium, although they had fallen behind in the first half but succeeded got up in the second half by securing the three points

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