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Despite a great season at Manchester City, I think everyone here underestimates Chelsea .. and I will definitely take advantage of the huge coefficient and bet on the Aristocrats to win as I am confident that this purely English final will end with Chelsea winning. But in terms of details, theoretically Chelsea should look great in the first half while City will likely show a very self-assertive performance in the second half, (I hope I'm not mistaken).  Cheesy
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Everything Can Happen On The Field, But 95% Sure Manchester City Will Be The Winner.

The Blues Is Loser Everytime

If you're so sure about that, I'd bet my entire estate on a ManCity win and I'd probably be set for life Wink

Seriously, 95% chance of winning is unserious. Chelsea recently showed in the league that they can beat ManCity. I think the final will be very close, with Chelsea winning.
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Nothing undermines Chelsea, but indeed they (Chelsea) are a trivial team that can be easily beaten.
If they were they would've lost to either  Athletico Madrid, Porto or Real Madrid in the champions league, there is one thing you need to know, Chelsea performance in the champions league is quite different from that of the league, they were the best team in all the games they lost in the past few weeks, they were just unlucky not to get the goals and winning they deserves 

Everything Can Happen On The Field, But 95% Sure Manchester City Will Be The Winner.
Man city is more easier to beat than Real Madrid and Athletico Madrid.... Wait for it
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Manchester City have favorite bets from gamblers but Chelsea understand Man City too well. Recent matches between them have better results for Chelsea.

This final match can end with a win for Chelsea if Kante can break the tactics and connections of Manchester City on field. He can do this in his best day and Chelsea will have to put many hope on Kante. Manchester City if fall into the greedy to win, might be trapped by Tuchel and Chelsea.

The key is from Kante and De Bruyne. I know Man City have many stars in their squad but De Bruyne is a hub of their tactic operations.

Kante and de Bruyne exactly. If these two guys perform, their team performs. Their front attacking force aren't really so great, not on their own. Relying totally on the creativity from midfield, and same the defence relying on the snuffing out of attacks also from midfield.

Chelsea's top scorer has 7 goals all from penalties, this is what we are faced with from the Blues:)
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Please let us not underrate Chelsea even though the odd of winning this season UCL favors Man City Recall in their last two meetings Chelsea won convincingly, they are not a pushover side this is a final match, whatever motivation Man City is having based on their quality players doesn't count now until the two team meet in the final match I am neither a supporter or fan of the two clubs however I believed Chelsea can be headstrong on that day such that it might be quite difficult for Man City to defeat them.

Nothing undermines Chelsea, but indeed they (Chelsea) are a trivial team that can be easily beaten. Just look at Tuchel in the last EPL match, he plays Edouard Mendy and see now? Edouard Mendy Has Injured.

Please don't say that Kepa is better than Edouard Mendy  Cheesy

Everything Can Happen On The Field, But 95% Sure Manchester City Will Be The Winner.

The Blues Is Loser Everytime

This is a Champions League final. So I never take things for granted. Everything can happen. Chelsea beat Manchester City in this season 2 times in 3 games. I'm sure that Manchester City won't underestimate them here of course. But they should be really careful.

@ILuckyGuyI it’s true that Tuchel has a psychological advantage after beating Pep twice this season, but then again Pep is a tactical genius and I’m sure he’ll come up with something very good that’ll baffle Chelsea player’s. Also this will be Aguero’s last match, hence I feel it’s fitting he gets to win it, and the entire City team should win it for him and this is coming from a Manchester United fan cause I really like Aguero.
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Please let us not underrate Chelsea even though the odd of winning this season UCL favors Man City Recall in their last two meetings Chelsea won convincingly, they are not a pushover side this is a final match, whatever motivation Man City is having based on their quality players doesn't count now until the two team meet in the final match I am neither a supporter or fan of the two clubs however I believed Chelsea can be headstrong on that day such that it might be quite difficult for Man City to defeat them.

Nothing undermines Chelsea, but indeed they (Chelsea) are a trivial team that can be easily beaten. Just look at Tuchel in the last EPL match, he plays Edouard Mendy and see now? Edouard Mendy Has Injured.

Please don't say that Kepa is better than Edouard Mendy  Cheesy

Everything Can Happen On The Field, But 95% Sure Manchester City Will Be The Winner.

The Blues Is Loser Everytime

This is a Champions League final. So I never take things for granted. Everything can happen. Chelsea beat Manchester City in this season 2 times in 3 games. I'm sure that Manchester City won't underestimate them here of course. But they should be really careful.
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Please let us not underrate Chelsea even though the odd of winning this season UCL favors Man City Recall in their last two meetings Chelsea won convincingly, they are not a pushover side this is a final match, whatever motivation Man City is having based on their quality players doesn't count now until the two team meet in the final match I am neither a supporter or fan of the two clubs however I believed Chelsea can be headstrong on that day such that it might be quite difficult for Man City to defeat them.

Nothing undermines Chelsea, but indeed they (Chelsea) are a trivial team that can be easily beaten. Just look at Tuchel in the last EPL match, he plays Edouard Mendy and see now? Edouard Mendy Has Injured.

Please don't say that Kepa is better than Edouard Mendy  Cheesy

Everything Can Happen On The Field, But 95% Sure Manchester City Will Be The Winner.

The Blues Is Loser Everytime
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...Head to Head comparison doesn't mean much when the squad is different from the last time they played.
Manchester City have favorite bets from gamblers but Chelsea understand Man City too well. Recent matches between them have better results for Chelsea.
Should I repeat what I said about head to head?
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Still waiting 6 days for the final. Has anyone turned to placing bets from the Chelsea team ?. Ha ha ha. Yes The last few games in the EPL left betting supporters as doubtful as possible. Defeat in the FA cup final, then Chelsea lost to Aston Villa and the injury suffered by Edouard Mendy.
It seems a little bad in the last match of Chelsea, Tuchel had to play Kepa, which he rarely played due to his lack of performance.

Even though Edouard Mendy will play in the final match, it will not change Manchester City's motivation at all.

They (Manchester City) Have Received the EPL Title, But Until Now, The Champions League Title Is Still Their Dream. Because giant teams always destroy their dreams, call it like Barcelona, ​​PSG, Real Madrid, and Bayern Munich.

But currently, they only play against weak teams like Chelsea, so what is their problem right now? Nothing!
Please let us not underrate Chelsea even though the odd of winning this season UCL favors Man City Recall in their last two meetings Chelsea won convincingly, they are not a pushover side this is a final match, whatever motivation Man City is having based on their quality players doesn't count now until the two team meet in the final match I am neither a supporter or fan of the two clubs however I believed Chelsea can be headstrong on that day such that it might be quite difficult for Man City to defeat them.

They won because Manchester City didn't care much about those games,they were already Champions of the Premier League at that time and their full focus is now on winning the Champions League.It is ten years since Guardiola has last taken place into a final in the Champions League and I am sure he will try to win this game with Manchester City.The only thing I don't like about him is that he is a great actor beside being a great coach as he was crying when Aguero said goodbye to Manchester City before the cameras while it was exactly Guardiola who made things go down to this situation.Anyway Manchester City has the better players and higher chances to win the Champions League.
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Still waiting 6 days for the final. Has anyone turned to placing bets from the Chelsea team ?. Ha ha ha. Yes The last few games in the EPL left betting supporters as doubtful as possible. Defeat in the FA cup final, then Chelsea lost to Aston Villa and the injury suffered by Edouard Mendy.
It seems a little bad in the last match of Chelsea, Tuchel had to play Kepa, which he rarely played due to his lack of performance.

Even though Edouard Mendy will play in the final match, it will not change Manchester City's motivation at all.

They (Manchester City) Have Received the EPL Title, But Until Now, The Champions League Title Is Still Their Dream. Because giant teams always destroy their dreams, call it like Barcelona, ​​PSG, Real Madrid, and Bayern Munich.

But currently, they only play against weak teams like Chelsea, so what is their problem right now? Nothing!
Please let us not underrate Chelsea even though the odd of winning this season UCL favors Man City Recall in their last two meetings Chelsea won convincingly, they are not a pushover side this is a final match, whatever motivation Man City is having based on their quality players doesn't count now until the two team meet in the final match I am neither a supporter or fan of the two clubs however I believed Chelsea can be headstrong on that day such that it might be quite difficult for Man City to defeat them.
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Still waiting 6 days for the final. Has anyone turned to placing bets from the Chelsea team ?. Ha ha ha. Yes The last few games in the EPL left betting supporters as doubtful as possible. Defeat in the FA cup final, then Chelsea lost to Aston Villa and the injury suffered by Edouard Mendy.
It seems a little bad in the last match of Chelsea, Tuchel had to play Kepa, which he rarely played due to his lack of performance.

Even though Edouard Mendy will play in the final match, it will not change Manchester City's motivation at all.

They (Manchester City) Have Received the EPL Title, But Until Now, The Champions League Title Is Still Their Dream. Because giant teams always destroy their dreams, call it like Barcelona, ​​PSG, Real Madrid, and Bayern Munich.

But currently, they only play against weak teams like Chelsea, so what is their problem right now? Nothing!
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I already see odds favoring Man City to win and that was as expected.

I would go with the team's recent performance and injury if we're going to take statistics into account. Head to Head comparison doesn't mean much when the squad is different from the last time they played.
Manchester City have favorite bets from gamblers but Chelsea understand Man City too well. Recent matches between them have better results for Chelsea.

This final match can end with a win for Chelsea if Kante can break the tactics and connections of Manchester City on field. He can do this in his best day and Chelsea will have to put many hope on Kante. Manchester City if fall into the greedy to win, might be trapped by Tuchel and Chelsea.

The key is from Kante and De Bruyne. I know Man City have many stars in their squad but De Bruyne is a hub of their tactic operations.
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Still waiting 6 days for the final. Has anyone turned to placing bets from the Chelsea team ?. Ha ha ha. Yes The last few games in the EPL left betting supporters as doubtful as possible. Defeat in the FA cup final, then Chelsea lost to Aston Villa and the injury suffered by Edouard Mendy.
It seems a little bad in the last match of Chelsea, Tuchel had to play Kepa, which he rarely played due to his lack of performance.
It bad week for Chelsea.
5 days left, I am sure Tuchel keep the secret strategy save. he doesn't show up on the last week because he knows pep watching out every Chelsea match. And on the last games on the premier, maybe Chelsea have much confidence to be a winner in the champions league because that he didn't play as usual.
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I already see odds favoring Man City to win and that was as expected.

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But if you look at Chelsea's performance in the last few matches against Manchester City, you can see that the Chelsea team has done admirably against Manchester. Chelsea have won their last two matches against Manchester. So I don't think it's possible to statistically decide which team will win the final.
I would go with the team's recent performance and injury if we're going to take statistics into account. Head to Head comparison doesn't mean much when the squad is different from the last time they played.
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Still waiting 6 days for the final. Has anyone turned to placing bets from the Chelsea team ?. Ha ha ha. Yes The last few games in the EPL left betting supporters as doubtful as possible. Defeat in the FA cup final, then Chelsea lost to Aston Villa and the injury suffered by Edouard Mendy.
It seems a little bad in the last match of Chelsea, Tuchel had to play Kepa, which he rarely played due to his lack of performance.
Chelsea is weaker than Manchester City, in Champions League and in Premier League. Everyone agree this, I guess but there are gamblers or fans will want to see Chelsea win against Manchester City.

I am not a fan of Chelsea or Manchester City but I think the chance will be 40 - 60 for Chelsea and Manchester City. In Champions League final, the stronger team won't be the winner and in soccer, you can not win on the table or by statistics.

Chelsea has bad preparation for the final but they will have their chances.
I agree with you that Chelsea is weaker than Manchester City. But if you look at Chelsea's performance in the last few matches against Manchester City, you can see that the Chelsea team has done admirably against Manchester. Chelsea have won their last two matches against Manchester. So I don't think it's possible to statistically decide which team will win the final. Still, I'm betting on Manchester City, because I'm a Manchester City fan.
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Still waiting 6 days for the final. Has anyone turned to placing bets from the Chelsea team ?. Ha ha ha. Yes The last few games in the EPL left betting supporters as doubtful as possible. Defeat in the FA cup final, then Chelsea lost to Aston Villa and the injury suffered by Edouard Mendy.
It seems a little bad in the last match of Chelsea, Tuchel had to play Kepa, which he rarely played due to his lack of performance.
Chelsea is weaker than Manchester City, in Champions League and in Premier League. Everyone agree this, I guess but there are gamblers or fans will want to see Chelsea win against Manchester City.

I am not a fan of Chelsea or Manchester City but I think the chance will be 40 - 60 for Chelsea and Manchester City. In Champions League final, the stronger team won't be the winner and in soccer, you can not win on the table or by statistics.

Chelsea has bad preparation for the final but they will have their chances.
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Still waiting 6 days for the final. Has anyone turned to placing bets from the Chelsea team ?. Ha ha ha. Yes The last few games in the EPL left betting supporters as doubtful as possible. Defeat in the FA cup final, then Chelsea lost to Aston Villa and the injury suffered by Edouard Mendy.
It seems a little bad in the last match of Chelsea, Tuchel had to play Kepa, which he rarely played due to his lack of performance.
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Group 2 for the next Champions will be stronger than Group 1.

Do you agree?


Source: https://twitter.com/NonSoloJuve/status/1396572105186152456

I wouldn't say that group 2 is stronger because the two strongest teams of group 1 (ManCity and Bayern) are stronger than the strongest teams of Group 2 (PSG and Chelsea, Madrid or barcelona). That being said if you look at the remaining teams of each group then group 2 is stronger in that regard because dortmund, juve, liverpool are stronger than lille, villareal and Inter. I still don't understand though why lille would be in group 1. It's the weakest team of them all and didn't accomplish anything in the recent years is this ranking nowadays solely based on position of the clubs in their national leagues or have i missed something here?
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What is the basic for this clasification? is it based on the excellent team?
I do not know for sure about the classification of this club. Can you help me define it?
Or are there new rules according to UEFA? Some period I no longer read about it.
You have see on wikipedia. here the picture I got,



this is how they calculated. each team is grouped by rank on their country league



I think Chelsea might grouping on 4th rank.
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Group 2 for the next Champions will be stronger than Group 1.
Do you agree?

What is the basic for this clasification? is it based on the excellent team?
I do not know for sure about the classification of this club. Can you help me define it?
Or are there new rules according to UEFA? Some period I no longer read about it.
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