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Quote from: icopress on May 21, 2021, 03:15:31 PM

Moving the game from Turkey to Portugal will benefit Chelsea. Cheesy

What is the advantage that Chelsea has, for the final to be made in Portugal, instead of Turkey? Huh

I don't see anything in Portugal, which benefits Chelsea.

Rather the opposite. Man City has several Portuguese players.

I don't see any advantage for one team either, both teams from England have the same game schedule in the league, so neither has an advantage where the final is played. But I think that Manchester City is a bit stronger and will probably win the final at the first time.

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Regardless of where the final match will take place, I will still support Manchester City to win the Champions League this season. I don't think if this match is played in Portugal or in Turkey it will be in the favor of either of them, this is the final and should be played on a neutral ground.

I am sure a lot of people will choose Chelsea to win because recently Manchester City have not been good enough in the EPL after winning the title. But I look forward to seeing the fact that they will win the final this season.

Portugal or Turkey I think it will remain a neutral place even if some of the players are from that country but it's not all about their country but it will focus on consistently winning because it's playing for the club not for the country.
So both parties will certainly benefit from the same, but we will see in the final who deserves to be champions of Chelsea or Manchester City.

In fact I admire the two coaches who I think are great at managing their team and capable of creating great players on the pitch so the players became aggressive after many changes with them.

In fact, I want to know for Manchester city to be the champion for the first time.

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Quote from: joker_josue on May 21, 2021, 03:43:36 PM

What is the advantage that Chelsea has, for the final to be made in Portugal, instead of Turkey? Huh

I don't see anything in Portugal, which benefits Chelsea.

Rather the opposite. Man City has several Portuguese players.

I was guided only by the data of the interactive fan map ... and it looks like Chelsea will indeed be more comfortable playing in Portugal (aside from the crowds of traveling fans). So, I have a counter question, why did you decide Porto will wait with open arms for Manchester City? ^{[except for the case that you are local]}

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Quote from: joker_josue on May 21, 2021, 03:43:36 PM

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Regardless of where the final match will take place, I will still support Manchester City to win the Champions League this season. I don't think if this match is played in Portugal or in Turkey it will be in the favor of either of them, this is the final and should be played on a neutral ground.

I am sure a lot of people will choose Chelsea to win because recently Manchester City have not been good enough in the EPL after winning the title. But I look forward to seeing the fact that they will win the final this season.

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Quote from: icopress on May 21, 2021, 03:15:31 PM

Moving the game from Turkey to Portugal will benefit Chelsea. Cheesy

What is the advantage that Chelsea has, for the final to be made in Portugal, instead of Turkey? Huh

I don't see anything in Portugal, which benefits Chelsea.

Rather the opposite. Man City has several Portuguese players.

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Quote from: judas on May 21, 2021, 02:42:39 PM

Manchester City seem as the absolute favorite side of the final game according to these odds [...]

Moving the game from Turkey to Portugal will benefit Chelsea. Cheesy

Although, It remains to be seen what the ratio of the Fans will be ... since as far as I understand the owner of Manchester City promised to pay the way for the fans, (maybe it's all about expensive tickets, or maybe it's a gesture of goodwill) / In any case, don't underestimate the fan aura ...

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Quote from: babo on May 21, 2021, 01:25:48 PM

The final cant be predictable, is hard
the bookmaker said
Manchester City 2.02
draw 3.40
Chelsea 4.20

https://www.smartbets.com/football/chelsea-manchester-city/

here too, anything can happen, Chelsea can win big or win in the last minutes..

but the bookmakers have a BIG data history, they make very little mistakes of course

Manchester City seem as the absolute favorite side of the final game according to these odds. But I don't see this game as bird in the hand for Manchester City. Because Chelsea showed their quality and how dangerous they can be. They showed it by eliminating Real Madrid and defeating Manchester City in this season twice. So, I think there is a really tough game waiting for City. We will witness great tactic wars I believe. Grin

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Quote from: babo on May 21, 2021, 01:25:48 PM

The final cant be predictable, is hard
the bookmaker said
Manchester City 2.02
draw 3.40
Chelsea 4.20

https://www.smartbets.com/football/chelsea-manchester-city/

here too, anything can happen, Chelsea can win big or win in the last minutes..

but the bookmakers have a BIG data history, they make very little mistakes of course

It is still difficult to predict the final results of the champions league, because in my opinion the two teams have the same opportunity to become champions of the 2020/21 season champions, Manchester City which is unstoppable in the English league and has confirmed to be the EPL champion will certainly play without the burden to be able to getting their first champions league trophy this season, as well as chelsea who played as if every match was a final under Tuchel's tutelage, of course, they will play all out in the real final on the 30th, in my opinion statistics are just numbers and things can be different on the playing field later.

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Quote from: babo on May 21, 2021, 01:25:48 PM

The final cant be predictable, is hard
the bookmaker said
Manchester City 2.02
draw 3.40
Chelsea 4.20

https://www.smartbets.com/football/chelsea-manchester-city/

here too, anything can happen, Chelsea can win big or win in the last minutes..

but the bookmakers have a BIG data history, they make very little mistakes of course

If you look at stake.com's odds Manchester City has an edge and the favor of odds will go with Manchester City just like in Smartbets, the favorite here really is Manchester City, even though Chelsea have good techniques as a team I think there are many speculators that are in favor with Man City,

I really can't wait for the game to start we still have 8 to 9 days before the match starts, just like these two gambling sites I am in favor of Manchester City aswell, and Man City since then was really my favorite team in this league But Chelsea right now is a formidable opponent I have seen them defeated Man City with a 2 - 1 score, and right now with Thomas Tuchel as a head coach maybe Chelsea will have a chance.

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Quote from: babo on May 21, 2021, 01:25:48 PM

The final cant be predictable, is hard
the bookmaker said
Manchester City 2.02
draw 3.40
Chelsea 4.20

https://www.smartbets.com/football/chelsea-manchester-city/

here too, anything can happen, Chelsea can win big or win in the last minutes..

but the bookmakers have a BIG data history, they make very little mistakes of course

Given this odds i would probably risk it and place bet on chelsea. If they manage to play in the same way as they did in the second leg against real madrid then even ManCity will have a very hard time to create opportunities to score a goal. Thomas tuchel really managed to have an impact on the teams performance since he became their coach. They have a very solid defense now and very fast players in the offense. For me the outcome of the final is completely open, whichever teams scores first has a huge advantage obviously.

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The final cant be predictable, is hard
the bookmaker said
Manchester City 2.02
draw 3.40
Chelsea 4.20

https://www.smartbets.com/football/chelsea-manchester-city/

here too, anything can happen, Chelsea can win big or win in the last minutes..

but the bookmakers have a BIG data history, they make very little mistakes of course

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Quote from: joker_josue on May 20, 2021, 11:10:47 AM

Quote from: DU18 on May 19, 2021, 12:09:42 PM

Seeing the existing squad, of course, Manchester City is considered to be the favorite for the Champions League champions this season, but in the domestic league Manchester City has been beaten three times by Chelsea during the Tuchel coaching in recent weeks, including in the semi-finals of the FA Cup and Premier League, I think Chelsea seems to be will play in the same way, as the previous victory, especially the victory against Madrid shows the extraordinary courage of the Chelsea players, the majority of the current Chelsea squad is filled with young players.
I think Pep Guardiola will return to using the false-nine system of play (without a pure attacker), to face a strong Chelsea defense, but of course Tuchel's experience so far and also tactical in his style of play makes me believe that Chelsea will win the Champions League this season.

In the case of the FA Cup game, it does not serve as an example, in my opinion because this competition is well known for being full of suppressors. Chelsea himself lost the cup to Leicester. And then he won in the championship.

In the case of the regular season, they are tied. City and Chelsea, have a victory and a defeat, in the direct confrontation.

In my opinion, both have equal chance to win. I told this because I observed their head-to-head matches. Both teams are almost equally strong in head to head matches. And the matches of both teams are much more competitive. It is not clear which team will win until the 90th minute, or what the outcome of the match will be. So stay tuned, and bet on your favourite team.

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Quote from: DU18 on May 19, 2021, 12:09:42 PM

Seeing the existing squad, of course, Manchester City is considered to be the favorite for the Champions League champions this season, but in the domestic league Manchester City has been beaten three times by Chelsea during the Tuchel coaching in recent weeks, including in the semi-finals of the FA Cup and Premier League, I think Chelsea seems to be will play in the same way, as the previous victory, especially the victory against Madrid shows the extraordinary courage of the Chelsea players, the majority of the current Chelsea squad is filled with young players.
I think Pep Guardiola will return to using the false-nine system of play (without a pure attacker), to face a strong Chelsea defense, but of course Tuchel's experience so far and also tactical in his style of play makes me believe that Chelsea will win the Champions League this season.

In the case of the FA Cup game, it does not serve as an example, in my opinion because this competition is well known for being full of suppressors. Chelsea himself lost the cup to Leicester. And then he won in the championship.

In the case of the regular season, they are tied. City and Chelsea, have a victory and a defeat, in the direct confrontation.

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I cannot wait for this final any longer, I am so much curious to know whether there will be Tuchel's miracle or Guardiola's infinite confirmation! Clash of titans like these epic games should be.
I am very much undecided about the final result: I symphatize with Manchester City and I like Guardiola's football a lot even if I concede that Tuchel's Chelsea is extraordinary.
I can only hope that the citizens will win but maybe I will not bet.

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Quote from: GeorgeJohn on May 19, 2021, 05:47:11 PM

Yea, your bet will be 70% safe.

Bankers of gambling sites will look at bet data and can make gamblers surprised and kill them. Sports are open for magic flippening and Chelsea have enough experience in Champions League and good players too. They can make a flippening and take the cup.

Quote from: nelson4lov on May 19, 2021, 06:58:03 PM

You seem so sure? AFAIK I know, both teams need the UCL title to boost their status and trophy cabinet. Man city hasn't won it before and this is a rare chance for them to do so. Chelsea on the hand, have just 1 UCL title and won't like to make that a double. Considering Tuchel went to the finals last season with PSG and lost to Bayern, I believe that he would try as much as possible to win it this time. It would be a super interesting match to watch. So I can't wait. I'm yet to place any bets yet on the event because it's a hard call to make. Both teams are rock solid right now, real reason I'm having a hard time making a pick.

City has been good this season but don't write off Chelsea just yet.

If Manchester City are only be able to have ball possession, Chelsea can break the defense system of Man City and score a single decisive goal. In finale match, one goal can equal to a Cup.

Chelsea will try to the second Champions League cup to their hall and Tuchel will want to have his first cup. Chelsea will try to the list of few clubs which can win 2+ Champions League. Manchester City has their first finale and it is logic if they can not win it. Try a few times and win their first cup, walk on same steps of Chelsea.

Although the Chelsea squad has fewer star players than Manchester City. But Chelsea's strategy is much better and they can do some remarkable counterattack. As a result, they can easily defeat many big teams. I think if Pep Guardiola can resist Chelsea's counterattack, Manchester City will win.

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Quote from: GeorgeJohn on May 19, 2021, 05:47:11 PM

Yea, your bet will be 70% safe.

Bankers of gambling sites will look at bet data and can make gamblers surprised and kill them. Sports are open for magic flippening and Chelsea have enough experience in Champions League and good players too. They can make a flippening and take the cup.

Quote from: nelson4lov on May 19, 2021, 06:58:03 PM

You seem so sure? AFAIK I know, both teams need the UCL title to boost their status and trophy cabinet. Man city hasn't won it before and this is a rare chance for them to do so. Chelsea on the hand, have just 1 UCL title and won't like to make that a double. Considering Tuchel went to the finals last season with PSG and lost to Bayern, I believe that he would try as much as possible to win it this time. It would be a super interesting match to watch. So I can't wait. I'm yet to place any bets yet on the event because it's a hard call to make. Both teams are rock solid right now, real reason I'm having a hard time making a pick.

City has been good this season but don't write off Chelsea just yet.

If Manchester City are only be able to have ball possession, Chelsea can break the defense system of Man City and score a single decisive goal. In finale match, one goal can equal to a Cup.

Chelsea will try to the second Champions League cup to their hall and Tuchel will want to have his first cup. Chelsea will try to the list of few clubs which can win 2+ Champions League. Manchester City has their first finale and it is logic if they can not win it. Try a few times and win their first cup, walk on same steps of Chelsea.

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Quote from: GeorgeJohn on May 19, 2021, 05:47:11 PM

Yea, your bet will be 70% safe.

You seem so sure? AFAIK I know, both teams need the UCL title to boost their status and trophy cabinet. Man city hasn't won it before and this is a rare chance for them to do so. Chelsea on the hand, have just 1 UCL title and won't like to make that a double. Considering Tuchel went to the finals last season with PSG and lost to Bayern, I believe that he would try as much as possible to win it this time. It would be a super interesting match to watch. So I can't wait. I'm yet to place any bets yet on the event because it's a hard call to make. Both teams are rock solid right now, real reason I'm having a hard time making a pick.

City has been good this season but don't write off Chelsea just yet.

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Champions League final between two EPL clubs is slightly difficult to predict because England clubs play same football partern. However, it is worthy to note that Guadiola is more wounded than Tuchel in England in terms of UCL. Pep has suffered alot in the hands of Madrid and other clubs at round 16 and 8. So, this final is like a prayer answered. So, I give it to Guadiola.
Even if Tuchel lost the day, he had already made positive impacts in the Chelsea.
So the wounded lion will win.

It is really hard to predict that who will be the champion. Both teams have the ability to win this match. But Manchester City's players are better and more experienced than Chelsea's. I think so. So I think Manchester City will be able to win the Champions League title. And I want to bet for Manchester City's vectrory.

Yea, your bet will be 70% safe. However, in football anything can happen. Tuchel has really made Chelsea a difficult club to defeat in this recent time. So, with the right selection, Chelsea will seriously contest for the trophy.

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Quote from: DU18 on May 19, 2021, 12:09:42 PM

Seeing the existing squad, of course, Manchester City is considered to be the favorite for the Champions League champions this season, but in the domestic league Manchester City has been beaten three times by Chelsea during the Tuchel coaching in recent weeks, including in the semi-finals of the FA Cup and Premier League, I think Chelsea seems to be will play in the same way, as the previous victory, especially the victory against Madrid shows the extraordinary courage of the Chelsea players, the majority of the current Chelsea squad is filled with young players.
I think Pep Guardiola will return to using the false-nine system of play (without a pure attacker), to face a strong Chelsea defense, but of course Tuchel's experience so far and also tactical in his style of play makes me believe that Chelsea will win the Champions League this season.

Pep Guardiola will certainly continue to learn from 3 defeats against Chelsea in the domestic league. He (pep guardiola) will not make the same mistake in the UCL final. Especially after being bought by Sheikh Mansour, Manchester City has never won a UCL trophy, now that opportunity is before them, I think Pep Guardiola will instruct his players to press Chelsea during the match, in order to achieve the target of the club owner.

If Pep does not win the Champions League this year, then he is unlikely to be able to do so in the next seasons. This team is now at the peak of form. Experience in past games. And there will be no excuse for defeat. And if he loses, it would be better to replace Pep. team and return to Barcelona and try to return it to its former greatness.

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Quote from: DU18 on May 19, 2021, 12:09:42 PM

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Quote from: ILuckyGuyI on May 19, 2021, 04:08:13 AM

Yeah, Chelsea were really good against City in this season. So they know how to beat City in this final game also. Even if Guardiola prefers a different tactic, I think that Tuchel can find another solution not to be caught off guard. I like both of these teams actually but I feel like Chelsea may win the title.

I would not say that Chelsea was so much superior to City, in the direct confrontation.
Not counting the FA Cup, which is always a competition with many suppressions and difficult to predict what will happen, both teams have a victory and a defeat.
And if we look at the number of goals scored, City have 1 goal advantage. The curious thing is that both teams lost at home.

Seeing the existing squad, of course, Manchester City is considered to be the favorite for the Champions League champions this season, but in the domestic league Manchester City has been beaten three times by Chelsea during the Tuchel coaching in recent weeks, including in the semi-finals of the FA Cup and Premier League, I think Chelsea seems to be will play in the same way, as the previous victory, especially the victory against Madrid shows the extraordinary courage of the Chelsea players, the majority of the current Chelsea squad is filled with young players.
I think Pep Guardiola will return to using the false-nine system of play (without a pure attacker), to face a strong Chelsea defense, but of course Tuchel's experience so far and also tactical in his style of play makes me believe that Chelsea will win the Champions League this season.

You can't base the winner from the many options pep has ,to pick a team,but of course it gives them an edge.

But of late Chelsea have shown not to be the weak team , and having beat Manchester City a few weeks ago should keep them motivated and because of this, this game should be treated as anybody's game!

But if you looking for a winner here, I fancy City to win.

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