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Next Champions League without the citizens is gonna be weird.
The UCL is a big competition with all the best clubs from the too leagues, I think being a City staff or fan without the club being in the competition would be weird and could lead to a lot of exits. Guardiola has played in every UCL competition since he began coaching and even though he has expressed his desire to honour his contract till 2021, he may not be staying long after then.
If the ban is upheld it would take the club a couple of years to recover.
With sanctions given to Mancity will certainly make fans feel weird because Mancity is the biggest club in the English league that has many supporters and has won several titles, so Pep Guardiola will probably survive even though this sanction has been given later so I think Mancity will recover enough even if next season does not enter UCL
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Next Champions League without the citizens is gonna be weird.
The UCL is a big competition with all the best clubs from the too leagues, I think being a City staff or fan without the club being in the competition would be weird and could lead to a lot of exits. Guardiola has played in every UCL competition since he began coaching and even though he has expressed his desire to honour his contract till 2021, he may not be staying long after then.
If the ban is upheld it would take the club a couple of years to recover.
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I guess if Lisbon took care of their Covid problems and can open borders, that means either of two things. Either they are really taking care of this covid thing much better than any other city in the world, or they are just looking to make some money this way to living up the economy once more. I don't know which one is true but Portugal doesn't look like a shady bad country, they are usually very chill and very cool to be around, so I assume they are actually doing pretty well.

Plus this is just champions league, all in all maximum a thousand people I assume will be there for playing, don't know about visitors in the stands or if the games will be without fans again but if there is no fans, that means it couldn't really hurt more than regular seasons who started already.
Well, situation in Portugal isn't that bad, especially compared with Turkey, where final had to be played initially. So, probably it's not bad choice. But nowmost of European countries have opened their borders partially, for people from certain countries where number of infections isn't big. So, there may be alternative final venues announced.
Though, remaining games will be played without spectators, there will be limited number of people in stadium, so I think it's not big difference where it will be played exactly.
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I guess if Lisbon took care of their Covid problems and can open borders, that means either of two things. Either they are really taking care of this covid thing much better than any other city in the world, or they are just looking to make some money this way to living up the economy once more. I don't know which one is true but Portugal doesn't look like a shady bad country, they are usually very chill and very cool to be around, so I assume they are actually doing pretty well.

Plus this is just champions league, all in all maximum a thousand people I assume will be there for playing, don't know about visitors in the stands or if the games will be without fans again but if there is no fans, that means it couldn't really hurt more than regular seasons who started already.
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^  In his defense the 'evidence' did start from a leak made by a German news outfit based on leaked emails.  So let's see what City has in its appeal.  I think the ban could be dropped due to some technicality.  Grin
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https://twitter.com/derWinterbach/status/1269964593541062657

Soriano trying to keep the fans and investors calm, nice try  Grin  Next Champions League without the citizens is gonna be weird.
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Now the German magazine Bild has also confirmed that the final of the European Champions League will be played in Lisbon.
In addition to Lisbon, Frankfurt and Moscow also applied for the hosts but their applications were rejected due to the large number of coronavirus patients.

Seems like a very odd decision because Portugal and Lisbon both recently just opened their borders and said even to UK tourists that they are all welcome to come and visit,,, when every other city seems to be still preventing travel, these guys are actually asking UK to come and we know the Brits still got high cases!

If Portugal opens the border to tourists then it will be very dangerous later if the finals take place there now many in Europe are the biggest case and therefore unless confined to strict security and have to check in more detail.

And as the final CL has not yet been decided then there is still time to find a more sterile place to prevent many infections from occurring when the finals occur.
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Now the German magazine Bild has also confirmed that the final of the European Champions League will be played in Lisbon.
In addition to Lisbon, Frankfurt and Moscow also applied for the hosts but their applications were rejected due to the large number of coronavirus patients.

Seems like a very odd decision because Portugal and Lisbon both recently just opened their borders and said even to UK tourists that they are all welcome to come and visit,,, when every other city seems to be still preventing travel, these guys are actually asking UK to come and we know the Brits still got high cases!
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Well, Portugal is actually a good choice. They did not have nearly as much issue with coronavirus as Italy, France, Germany, Spain and the UK did and they have good stadiums and are a football force after all.

Is this confirmed or only a rumor? I tried Googling it but could not find it written on any relevant sources.

There is no official confirmation yet but German newsletter Bild is relevant source in my opinion.
I don't understand German and can't search for the original news in German language.
Maybe some German member can help us?
Any way,  UEFA will have formal meeting  in June 17 so very soon we will hear news from official source.
You can take a look here too https://africa.espn.com/football/uefa-champions-league/story/4107773/champions-league-mini-tournament-proposedlisbon-a-contender-sources, I believe there is many other sources reproducing the same thing and as you said better to wait for the official decision
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Well, Portugal is actually a good choice. They did not have nearly as much issue with coronavirus as Italy, France, Germany, Spain and the UK did and they have good stadiums and are a football force after all.

Is this confirmed or only a rumor? I tried Googling it but could not find it written on any relevant sources.

There is no official confirmation yet but German newsletter Bild is relevant source in my opinion.
I don't understand German and can't search for the original news in German language.
Maybe some German member can help us?
Any way,  UEFA will have formal meeting  in June 17 so very soon we will hear news from official source.
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It is literally said already that the reason is economical. I mean one of the main reasons to apply for a champions league finals to be hosted in your city is to make money, you spend a ton of money to cover all of that possibility, but even if you spend tens of millions of dollars eventually thanks to everything you make that back, you also earn a huge amount of money from the tourists that comes to your nation which is not just people who will go to the game but also people around them too, which comes to on average 70 thousand people just for a game, and having 70 thousand additional people on your nation is millions of dollars in revenue no matter how you look at it.

Now that it is (probably) not having any viewers, there is really no need to spend all that much money to host this game neither hence why Istanbul withdrew. Purely financial reasons and nothing secret going on I assume.
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hmph..
The bigger loss is next year, hoping for a fast develpment for the vaccine.

I think the club will start considering a reduction in player salaries to avoid losing more money, even a team that has a lot of money will think twice about paying players with a normal salary if they lose a lot of money during the entire season next season. With this condition, I'm sure the players will also agree considering the club wants to survive in times of crisis as well as players, who certainly do not want to play in other clubs with lower salaries.

hoping for a fast develpment for the vaccine.
I hope so, hopefully not only Vietnam can freely bring supporters to support the club from the stands.
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Well, Portugal is actually a good choice. They did not have nearly as much issue with coronavirus as Italy, France, Germany, Spain and the UK did and they have good stadiums and are a football force after all.

Is this confirmed or only a rumor? I tried Googling it but could not find it written on any relevant sources.
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They don't worry about fans now.
I feel that UEFA is very desperate at the moment and just wants to somehow finish CL competition this season.
It's all about money,  of course 😁

Exactly it's only about limiting the losses cause without fans they will lose money anyway.
Only from the people at the stadium, a team will lose around 20m from now till the end of the cup.
In addition to that sponsors will pay less, and the money revenue from gadgets will be also smaller.

The bigger loss is next year, hoping for a fast develpment for the vaccine.
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Daniel91, this is the first time I’ve seen that the final will be moved from Istanbul, that’s a real shame for them. I suppose no fans would be present though so the benefits of lots of tourists (fans) spending money there wouldn’t have been present.



Even if the final would happen to Istanbul no fans would be present.
It is better to move the final to a different country as turkey has a lot of infections from coronavirus.

They don't worry about fans now.
I feel that UEFA is very desperate at the moment and just wants to somehow finish CL competition this season.
It's all about money,  of course 😁
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Well, the final eight is a good formula to end the season, it will reduce by 50% the number of games played and the consequent risk of a new infection.

Keep also in mind that August will be a nightmare even if they will play in the late evening for the tropical temperature in Portugal, and less they play the better it will be for them.
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Now the German magazine Bild has also confirmed that the final of the European Champions League will be played in Lisbon.
In addition to Lisbon, Frankfurt and Moscow also applied for the hosts but their applications were rejected due to the large number of coronavirus patients.
Istanbul canceled this final tournament due to financial problems.
According to Bild, UEFA has already selected Portugal and Lisbon, although a formal meeting on the subject will not be held until June 17.
The main reasons for this decision, apart from the good situation with the corona virus, are that there are no more Portuguese clubs in the competition, suitable football facilities and a sufficient number of available stadiums that must be located within a radius of 100 km due to the large number of matches that must be played in a short time.
It looks like Frankfurt will receive a consolation prize, organizing the Europa League final.
Source: https://www.index.hr/sport/clanak/mozda-nas-ceka-dosad-nevidjena-zavrsnica-lige-prvaka-sastanak-odluke-17-lipnja/2188558.aspx

Maybe UEFA has its own consideration as to why the Champions League final was moved from Istanbul to London. My estimation is likely because
the increase  in the number of positive COVID19 in Istanbul is increasing, maybe this is disappointing for Turkish residents. But the decision has
already been made, all parties must respect the decision of UEFA. In my opinion, although it will still be held in Istanbul the match will be held
without supporters, so it  is not too influential for Turkish citizens.
You mean Lisbon not London  Smiley
The different reasons are cited in the source with coronavirus coming first obviously. There is of course some secondary hidden reasons that we can speculate about but whatever, the main thing is to play and finish it.
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Daniel91, this is the first time I’ve seen that the final will be moved from Istanbul, that’s a real shame for them. I suppose no fans would be present though so the benefits of lots of tourists (fans) spending money there wouldn’t have been present.



Even if the final would happen to Istanbul no fans would be present.
It is better to move the final to a different country as turkey has a lot of infections from coronavirus.
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Now the German magazine Bild has also confirmed that the final of the European Champions League will be played in Lisbon.
In addition to Lisbon, Frankfurt and Moscow also applied for the hosts but their applications were rejected due to the large number of coronavirus patients.
Istanbul canceled this final tournament due to financial problems.
According to Bild, UEFA has already selected Portugal and Lisbon, although a formal meeting on the subject will not be held until June 17.
The main reasons for this decision, apart from the good situation with the corona virus, are that there are no more Portuguese clubs in the competition, suitable football facilities and a sufficient number of available stadiums that must be located within a radius of 100 km due to the large number of matches that must be played in a short time.
It looks like Frankfurt will receive a consolation prize, organizing the Europa League final.
Source: https://www.index.hr/sport/clanak/mozda-nas-ceka-dosad-nevidjena-zavrsnica-lige-prvaka-sastanak-odluke-17-lipnja/2188558.aspx

Maybe UEFA has its own consideration as to why the Champions League final was moved from Istanbul to London. My estimation is likely because
the increase  in the number of positive COVID19 in Istanbul is increasing, maybe this is disappointing for Turkish residents. But the decision has
already been made, all parties must respect the decision of UEFA. In my opinion, although it will still be held in Istanbul the match will be held
without supporters, so it  is not too influential for Turkish citizens.
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Daniel91, this is the first time I’ve seen that the final will be moved from Istanbul, that’s a real shame for them. I suppose no fans would be present though so the benefits of lots of tourists (fans) spending money there wouldn’t have been present.

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