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Quote from: cryptofrka on May 12, 2020, 01:42:45 AM

Quote from: coinfinger on May 11, 2020, 03:49:54 PM

Since the leagues are postponed, I think transfer windows should be postponed as well, most teams take care of it before the window and just make it official during the first day anyway, so not like they don't know who they are going to get already.

You have another problem then, the new players do not do pre-season training/preparations with their new clubs. Imagine paying 100 million for a player that comes to your club at the beginning of the season with 15 extra pounds.
In any case, there will be some issues. Either with contracts/transfers regarding players who are playing CL or with clubs furious because their transfers are not arriving on time.

Which is why I do not think any club will pay for that kind of transfer without making other deals in the contract stipulations,,, I feel like a lot of clubs will force the parent clubs to take a big discount on fees, or the agent will have to take smaller cuts.

I bet there will be plenty of "overweight" players. Remember Lukaku going to Inter? This was not even with lockdown.

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My interest in the CL has taken a nose dive since we (Liverpool) got knocked out. For sporting integrity though it must be completed. The show must go on, I don’t mind who wins it but I don’t want Man City to Cheesy

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Quote from: LTU_btc on May 11, 2020, 05:14:14 PM

Yeah, this matches means a lot for local fans, but still, it's just friendly games, not official tournaments. It's easier to cancel it than Champions league and it won't cost that much.

If it's me, I'd choose to not let them play those tournaments too. But because of financial crisis clubs are suffering now, they might still try to get play there since the fee that offered is quite high. Imagine, a Champions League winner for this season could get approximately €80M in total^[1] by playing in a whole season, while in International Champions Cup, the most popular team during the tournament could get $20M^[2] by just playing few games only. Sounds like an easy money I think. But yeah there is absolutely no chance to have the pre-season tournaments played after current season end.

^{[1] https://www.marca.com/en/football/international-football/2019/07/11/5d27616646163f138c8b45aa.html}
^{[2] https://www.forbes.com/sites/bobbymcmahon/2019/07/16/2019-international-champions-cup-what-you-need-to-know/}

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Quote from: Daniel91 on May 12, 2020, 05:37:34 AM

UEFA still didn't confirm this schedule, it's news from Marca.
Any way, August is last chance and possibility for UEFA to finish CL and EL this year.
Let's hope the best.

If the leagues have started competing again then UEFA will immediately confirm about the CL match schedule in August, because currently seeing the current situation then they are still looking for solutions in the best scheduling.

And certainly this season all leagues will be finished including CL and EL in August as the rumors circulated.

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Quote from: 3meek on May 12, 2020, 03:17:49 AM

Quote from: Daniel91 on May 10, 2020, 03:04:37 AM

Another confirmation that UEFA Champions League will start soon, in August, from Marca: https://www.marca.com/en/football/international-football/2020/05/09/5eb7152f22601d29218b45c8.html
Lyon will play with Juve in Turin on August 7.
Hopefully, nothing will change until then Grin

Really, can't wait to see CL again on TV, what about you?

DRAFT CHAMPIONS LEAGUE CALENDAR (according to Marca):

7 August: Juventus-Lyon; Manchester City-Real Madrid (Round of 16 second legs)
8 August: Bayern-Chelsea; Barcelona-Napoli(Round of 16 second legs)
11-12 August: Quarter-finals first leg
14-15 August: Quarter-finals second leg
18-19 August: Semi-finals first leg
21-22 August: Semi-finals second leg
29 August: Final (Istanbul)

It would be great to see these matches in August! Let's hope the pandemic stops! Three months to recover is a good time!

I will bet on Juventus winning the match against Lyon! Wink

UEFA still didn't confirm this schedule, it's news from Marca.
Any way, August is last chance and possibility for UEFA to finish CL and EL this year.
Let's hope the best.

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Quote from: Daniel91 on May 10, 2020, 03:04:37 AM

Another confirmation that UEFA Champions League will start soon, in August, from Marca: https://www.marca.com/en/football/international-football/2020/05/09/5eb7152f22601d29218b45c8.html
Lyon will play with Juve in Turin on August 7.
Hopefully, nothing will change until then Grin

Really, can't wait to see CL again on TV, what about you?

DRAFT CHAMPIONS LEAGUE CALENDAR (according to Marca):

7 August: Juventus-Lyon; Manchester City-Real Madrid (Round of 16 second legs)
8 August: Bayern-Chelsea; Barcelona-Napoli(Round of 16 second legs)
11-12 August: Quarter-finals first leg
14-15 August: Quarter-finals second leg
18-19 August: Semi-finals first leg
21-22 August: Semi-finals second leg
29 August: Final (Istanbul)

It would be great to see these matches in August! Let's hope the pandemic stops! Three months to recover is a good time!

I will bet on Juventus winning the match against Lyon! Wink

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Quote from: coinfinger on May 11, 2020, 03:49:54 PM

Since the leagues are postponed, I think transfer windows should be postponed as well, most teams take care of it before the window and just make it official during the first day anyway, so not like they don't know who they are going to get already.

You have another problem then, the new players do not do pre-season training/preparations with their new clubs. Imagine paying 100 million for a player that comes to your club at the beginning of the season with 15 extra pounds.
In any case, there will be some issues. Either with contracts/transfers regarding players who are playing CL or with clubs furious because their transfers are not arriving on time.

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Quote from: cryptofrka on May 11, 2020, 05:08:16 AM

I wonder how will it affect the transfer market and the actual contracts.

Imagine for example the Coutinho case. What if he leaves Bayern in the summer transfer market? There are many similar cases, players' contracts running out, players wanting to move between clubs, clubs deciding who to buy based on their CL performances and prize money etc.

If they are postponing the CL, they should postpone the start of the transfer market as well. Otherwise, some of the decisions (Coutinho as a perfect example) might be weird.
Imagine if Chelsea buys Coutinho, he would end up playing one leg for Bayern and another one for Chelsea. Quite bizarre.

Yeah, it's interesting situation, especially because national will resume and end in different time. For example Bundesliga this weekend, while EPL or La Liga somewhere in June. Probably transfer window will be moved to August or September. But it's interesting what they will do with expiring contracts.
But even if Coutinho will move to Chelsea, I doubt that UEFA rules will allow him to play for Chelsea this season.

Quote from: jayce on May 11, 2020, 06:55:14 AM

Can't say it's less important matches tho because these games mean a lot for those who cant afford to fly to Europe watching their fave team directly with their own eyes. So when the teams come to their country, the stadium will be crowded no matter which players gonna play in the match.

Yeah, this matches means a lot for local fans, but still, it's just friendly games, not official tournaments. It's easier to cancel it than Champions league and it won't cost that much.

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There is something quite small that would probably be fixed very soon but we shouldn't forget. There are many nations who closed their borders as well, so lets say one player from one of those nations are bought for a lot of millions of dollars, how is he going to leave that nation and go to other nation that bought him?

So, that is something serious as well, I know there will be a resolution for it since it is not commercial and not bringing hundreds of people together constantly and only one person but it is still quite real trouble right now. Since the leagues are postponed, I think transfer windows should be postponed as well, most teams take care of it before the window and just make it official during the first day anyway, so not like they don't know who they are going to get already.

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Quote from: cryptofrka on May 11, 2020, 05:08:16 AM

I wonder how will it affect the transfer market and the actual contracts.

Imagine for example the Coutinho case. What if he leaves Bayern in the summer transfer market? There are many similar cases, players' contracts running out, players wanting to move between clubs, clubs deciding who to buy based on their CL performances and prize money etc.

If they are postponing the CL, they should postpone the start of the transfer market as well. Otherwise, some of the decisions (Coutinho as a perfect example) might be weird.
Imagine if Chelsea buys Coutinho, he would end up playing one leg for Bayern and another one for Chelsea. Quite bizarre.

Pretty sure UEFA will amend the rules given the current situation. I don't think the clubs would even think about forcing the issue.

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Quote from: coinlocket$ on May 10, 2020, 04:35:22 PM

About the dates that are circulating, we must take them with big caution.
In these days Lyon has spoken twice yesterday and once today.
Yesterday they said "when we will play against Juventus on August 7th we will be destroyed due to the different preparation", in France the championship has been canceled while in Italy it will probably start again, nothing certain but that is the intention.

Today they spoke again confirming that the date sent yesterday is not yet official so it is not said that the Champions League will actually start again on 7 August 2020, the intention is that but it is not known yet how things will go from here to three months.

I think that soon everything will fall into place. An example of the only ongoing Belarus football Championship in Europe demonstrates that the problem with coronovirus is greatly exaggerated. In addition, they continue to hold the national championship with the presence of spectators in the stands, without any restrictions for them. Therefore, there is a high probability that all European championships will continue soon, including the Champions League.

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Quote from: LTU_btc on May 10, 2020, 04:05:11 PM

And as @jayce, there is too many unneccesary games which requires travelling around the world, like ICC, friendly games in Asia, USA. And some less important tournaments isn't that needed, like League Cup, where teams like Liverpool play with youth squad. Nobody cares about this tournament, but it's still played, mainly for TV money.

Can't say it's less important matches tho because these games mean a lot for those who cant afford to fly to Europe watching their fave team directly with their own eyes. So when the teams come to their country, the stadium will be crowded no matter which players gonna play in the match.

Quote from: $crypto$ on May 10, 2020, 04:42:48 PM

It turns out that the infected in Turkey are quite large too but in Europe Turkey is probably one of the few with Covid-19 infection so that the final UCL was chosen in Istanbul.

Istanbul was chosen as the final venue few months ago before lockdown. And the Covid-19 case there is still quite high actually. But they have been preparing everything for the matchday, so moving the venue to somewhere else would lead to big loss for the venue organizer and they wouldn't accept just like that.

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I wonder how will it affect the transfer market and the actual contracts.

Imagine for example the Coutinho case. What if he leaves Bayern in the summer transfer market? There are many similar cases, players' contracts running out, players wanting to move between clubs, clubs deciding who to buy based on their CL performances and prize money etc.

If they are postponing the CL, they should postpone the start of the transfer market as well. Otherwise, some of the decisions (Coutinho as a perfect example) might be weird.
Imagine if Chelsea buys Coutinho, he would end up playing one leg for Bayern and another one for Chelsea. Quite bizarre.

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Quote from: hd49728 on May 09, 2020, 05:56:03 AM

Everything over the globe has been changed because of the pandemic so it is acceptable to see normality of leagues changed too. After the end of next season, I hope we will see normal ones again.

Yeah, still hard to see the best way for UCL next season and this season. If they are starting in September or October, I think that will be new formats for UCL and all league season. Because UEFA will not create a new formula to finish UCL on may. if it's possible, lots of matches will be happen per week. Maybe all will be change to the new normal. from June and move to September/October (just my opinion)

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Quote from: coinlocket$ on May 10, 2020, 04:35:22 PM

About the dates that are circulating, we must take them with big caution.
In these days Lyon has spoken twice yesterday and once today.
Yesterday they said "when we will play against Juventus on August 7th we will be destroyed due to the different preparation", in France the championship has been canceled while in Italy it will probably start again, nothing certain but that is the intention.

Today they spoke again confirming that the date sent yesterday is not yet official so it is not said that the Champions League will actually start again on 7 August 2020, the intention is that but it is not known yet how things will go from here to three months.

You're right.
UEFA, through its spokesman, denied the News.
So there is no official confirmation yet of the resumption of champions league competition, only speculation from individual representatives of the clubs, as was president Lyon's statement yesterday, which is quite irresponsible.
Source: ttps://www.index.hr/sport/clanak/predsjednik-lyona-tvrdio-je-da-se-liga-prvaka-vraca-uefa-ga-je-ekspresno-demantirala/2181870.aspx

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Quote from: LTU_btc on May 10, 2020, 04:05:11 PM

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(Istanbul) is the safest city? indeed I did not hear that in tukri there was covid-19.

Actually, there is almost 140k COVID-19 cases in Turkey and 3800 deaths. But you barely can find location in Europe which would be completely safe. And there is long time until August, number of new cases is getting smaller day by day, so until it situation may become much better.

It turns out that the infected in Turkey are quite large too but in Europe Turkey is probably one of the few with Covid-19 infection so that the final UCL was chosen in Istanbul.

Well I also see some news about deaths now where the death rate has decreased from day to day but we still need to be vigilant in the current conditions so maybe in August the number of infections will decrease even further because that's what is expected that the UCL match in one month (august) runs normally.

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About the dates that are circulating, we must take them with big caution.
In these days Lyon has spoken twice yesterday and once today.
Yesterday they said "when we will play against Juventus on August 7th we will be destroyed due to the different preparation", in France the championship has been canceled while in Italy it will probably start again, nothing certain but that is the intention.

Today they spoke again confirming that the date sent yesterday is not yet official so it is not said that the Champions League will actually start again on 7 August 2020, the intention is that but it is not known yet how things will go from here to three months.

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Quote from: leea-1334 on May 10, 2020, 04:11:35 AM

Quote from: casperBGD on May 10, 2020, 03:41:54 AM

yeah, look like that, but bear in mind that after finishing this season, and start another one (if everything stay the same, without break), CL will finish in August, and new season start in September, than you will have EURO 2020 after that, so first longer break for best football players will be in 2022, not so good for injuries
never mind, cant wait to see football on TV

Not good at all,,, I think it will be different next season shorter games and everything, unless they cancel one or two tournaments, so football returns to normal without doing anything stupid. What do you think? Should we sacrifice? I think so.

But even in normal situation without pandemy football calendar is very intensive. And bear in mind that players now got more than 2 months for recovery. There is no such long pauses between seasons in normal situation.
I don't like idea about making matches shorter, it wouldn't change situation much. But I like decision to allow making 5 substitutions.
And as @jayce, there is too many unneccesary games which requires travelling around the world, like ICC, friendly games in Asia, USA. And some less important tournaments isn't that needed, like League Cup, where teams like Liverpool play with youth squad. Nobody cares about this tournament, but it's still played, mainly for TV money.

Quote from: $crypto$ on May 10, 2020, 02:12:59 PM

(Istanbul) is the safest city? indeed I did not hear that in tukri there was covid-19.

Actually, there is almost 140k COVID-19 cases in Turkey and 3800 deaths. But you barely can find location in Europe which would be completely safe. And there is long time until August, number of new cases is getting smaller day by day, so until it situation may become much better.

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Quote from: Avirunes on May 10, 2020, 11:15:55 AM

Yeah would be an entertaining month. Whole month CL action Cheesy

I read somewhere that UEFA were very eager to start the next CL season on schedule and to do that they had to finish the current within August. It falls right into slot and doesn't seems much hectic looking at the draft calender.

For a whole month, we will see a prestigious match. Of course, August is the most awaited month if it has been decided that the CL match will continue in August.

But I think that condition can occur because of the pandemic situation and the match must be resolved within a month.

(Istanbul) is the safest city? indeed I did not hear that in tukri there was covid-19.

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Really glad hearing the news that football is coming back up again but CL coming back in August is really a good news.

Quote from: jayce on May 10, 2020, 10:44:46 AM

Quote from: Daniel91 on May 10, 2020, 03:04:37 AM

DRAFT CHAMPIONS LEAGUE CALENDAR (according to Marca):

7 August: Juventus-Lyon; Manchester City-Real Madrid (Round of 16 second legs)
8 August: Bayern-Chelsea; Barcelona-Napoli(Round of 16 second legs)
11-12 August: Quarter-finals first leg
14-15 August: Quarter-finals second leg
18-19 August: Semi-finals first leg
21-22 August: Semi-finals second leg
29 August: Final (Istanbul)

Wait what? Finishing all remaining matches in one whole month, that's so interesting! If that really happens, would be the best month in this entire 2020.

Yeah would be an entertaining month. Whole month CL action Cheesy

I read somewhere that UEFA were very eager to start the next CL season on schedule and to do that they had to finish the current within August. It falls right into slot and doesn't seems much hectic looking at the draft calender.

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