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Quote from: LTU_btc on May 20, 2020, 02:40:38 PM

Quote from: tbct_mt2 on May 19, 2020, 10:36:32 PM

Shortening the rest matches in Champions League and Europa league like you said looks a good solution. But how they can decide which stadiums for those matches? Home stadiums are always big advantage and I don't know how it looks like if they decide to make a dice, roll, something like that to choose which stadiums will hold those matches. It is weird and unfair for related clubs.

There will be serious losses for UEFA this season but it will still be good for them if they can finish the season. At least they will have some sort of income and is a good foundation for next season during the weird pandemic time.

As it was announced previously, UEFA will use neutral stadium for playoff games, IIRC it will be Istanbul. It will be short few weeks tournament, something similar to World Cup. I think it's best possible scenario in current situation.

@tbct_mt2 I don’t think they’ll shorten the matches because the whole point of resuming champions league was to make sure that they don’t suffer financial looses, hence we can definitely rule out the option of seeing a shortened version of the champions league.

@LTU_btc you’re correct but I feel that only Lyon and PSG will be playing their remaining matches at a neutral venue, unless they can convince the France government to give them the permission to play at home.

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"Paris St Germain and Lyon... will have to organise (matches) in France," Ceferin added. "If this is not possible, (they) will have to organise it at a neutral ground.
"If you cannot play in your country, then you have to organise it at a neutral ground... I don't see the reason why French authorities would not allow them to organise a match without spectators, but let's see. It's out of my power."

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https://www.nytimes.com/reuters/2020/05/17/sports/soccer/17reuters-health-coronavirus-uefa-ceferin.html

https://www.marca.com/en/football/international-football/2020/05/19/5ec40c3eca474134778b45f2.html

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Quote from: Daniel91 on May 19, 2020, 01:38:45 PM

One of the ideas seems to be to shorten all competitions and play only one game instead of two.

If they come to this decision, then what of some of the Round of 16 games that the teams have only played the first leg and are yet to go for the return match, are they going to end the tie with the first leg result, or will they start the one leg fixtures in the quarter final round.

Quote from: LTU_btc on May 20, 2020, 02:40:38 PM

As it was announced previously, UEFA will use neutral stadium for playoff games, IIRC it will be Istanbul. It will be short few weeks tournament, something similar to World Cup. I think it's best possible scenario in current situation.

This is a good decision and I think the teams will stay in the city(instanbul)till the whole tournament is over, only eliminated teams would leave, to reduce the teams travelling too often since that's what they are trying to do by initially cancelling out two leg ties.

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Quote from: tbct_mt2 on May 19, 2020, 10:36:32 PM

Shortening the rest matches in Champions League and Europa league like you said looks a good solution. But how they can decide which stadiums for those matches? Home stadiums are always big advantage and I don't know how it looks like if they decide to make a dice, roll, something like that to choose which stadiums will hold those matches. It is weird and unfair for related clubs.

There will be serious losses for UEFA this season but it will still be good for them if they can finish the season. At least they will have some sort of income and is a good foundation for next season during the weird pandemic time.

As it was announced previously, UEFA will use neutral stadium for playoff games, IIRC it will be Istanbul. It will be short few weeks tournament, something similar to World Cup. I think it's best possible scenario in current situation.

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Quote from: bullrun2024bro on May 19, 2020, 08:15:54 AM

The UEFA president Aleksander Čeferin recently gave an interview, saying that the UEFA wants to finish the current Champions League and Europa League season. Nevertheless there are no confirmed dates yet. August might be most likely.

They can not play dumb and say that they don't want to finish the season for Champions League and Europa League. All players and leagues want to finish their seasons in order to have good conditions to move onwards to next season. The problems are local governments' responses to the pandemic and their plans to reopen nations, include sports.

Maybe we will have the most long lasting season in our lives but eventually we will see this season finished completely and find champions.

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Quote from: Daniel91 on May 19, 2020, 01:38:45 PM

Very soon UEFA will have to make a final decision on the end of all European competitions, CL and EL.
One of the ideas seems to be to shorten all competitions and play only one game instead of two.
UEFA are facing the obstacle of the broadcasters, who don't like such an idea for understandable reasons Grin

Source: https://www.marca.com/en/football/international-football/2020/05/19/5ec40c3eca474134778b45f2.html

Shortening the rest matches in Champions League and Europa league like you said looks a good solution. But how they can decide which stadiums for those matches? Home stadiums are always big advantage and I don't know how it looks like if they decide to make a dice, roll, something like that to choose which stadiums will hold those matches. It is weird and unfair for related clubs.

There will be serious losses for UEFA this season but it will still be good for them if they can finish the season. At least they will have some sort of income and is a good foundation for next season during the weird pandemic time.

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I think Manchester City will try in the championship league season to win because otherwise they won't be able to enter the competition next season because there are sanctions against Manchester city.

AFAIK, those sanctions would not be lessened even if Manchester City does win the UCL this campaign they will still not be able to compete in the competition next season, their only hope of getting into the competition would be if their appeal is approved and according to BBC the hearing has been set for 2nd of June;

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Manchester City's appeal against a two-year ban from European club competition will begin on 8 June at the Court of Arbitration for Sport (Cas).

Source: https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/amp/football/52685442

Yeah maybe this is his only hope this season for UCL champions, but if the comparison is granted it will be a little relieved for Manchester City because they can play the competition again.

But I think it is also difficult if the comparison will be granted because Manchester City has violated what has been applied.

We will see the verdict on June 2 according to the article.

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Quote from: $crypto$ on May 18, 2020, 02:17:43 PM

I think Manchester City will try in the championship league season to win because otherwise they won't be able to enter the competition next season because there are sanctions against Manchester city.

AFAIK, those sanctions would not be lessened even if Manchester City does win the UCL this campaign they will still not be able to compete in the competition next season, their only hope of getting into the competition would be if their appeal is approved and according to BBC the hearing has been set for 2nd of June;

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Manchester City's appeal against a two-year ban from European club competition will begin on 8 June at the Court of Arbitration for Sport (Cas).

Source: https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/amp/football/52685442

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Very soon UEFA will have to make a final decision on the end of all European competitions, CL and EL.
One of the ideas seems to be to shorten all competitions and play only one game instead of two.
UEFA are facing the obstacle of the broadcasters, who don't like such an idea for understandable reasons Grin

Source: https://www.marca.com/en/football/international-football/2020/05/19/5ec40c3eca474134778b45f2.html

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The UEFA president Aleksander Čeferin recently gave an interview, saying that the UEFA wants to finish the current Champions League and Europa League season. Nevertheless there are no confirmed dates yet. August might be most likely.

Quote from: https://twitter.com/iMiaSanMia/status/1262484782685929474

UEFA president Aleksander Čeferin on the Champions League and Europa League: "We have an idea but we have to wait for the executive committee of UEFA to confirm the dates. I can say that the European season will be finished, if everything is as it is now, in August"

Source: https://twitter.com/iMiaSanMia/status/1262484782685929474

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Quote from: $crypto$ on May 18, 2020, 02:17:43 PM

I think Manchester City will try in the championship league season to win because otherwise they won't be able to enter the competition next season because there are sanctions against Manchester city.
Even though Manchester City is already in a 2-1 win in the second leg then this is the strength for Manchester City to be able to defend with Real Madrid in the second leg later if the match resumes.

They will try, definitely but with Champions League, luck is very important for club to be a champions. Sometimes, the winner or loser in Champions League is very thin and decide by personal mistakes or referee mistakes or unbelievable strikes of one player. Manchester City has enough strenght and quality to win the title but they have to fight for it and wait for their luckiness too.

After all major leagues resume, the Champions League will be resumed as a consequence of all successful resumes.

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Quote from: examplens on May 17, 2020, 05:00:53 PM

This new way of celebration reminds me of graphic some of the first football computers game. each player rejoices for himself.
I am also a Manchester United fan, but I would be sorry if Man. City does not destroy Real Madrid in the second leg. both deserve something like that. btw. If City does nothing this year in CL, with a possible ban it can affect very negative to the club and pull them back a few years.

I think Manchester City will try in the championship league season to win because otherwise they won't be able to enter the competition next season because there are sanctions against Manchester city.
Even though Manchester City is already in a 2-1 win in the second leg then this is the strength for Manchester City to be able to defend with Real Madrid in the second leg later if the match resumes.

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Quote from: Coyster on May 18, 2020, 01:24:18 PM

Quote from: jayce on May 18, 2020, 10:48:08 AM

Last season people predicted that Man City could beaten Tottenham and went to final but they ruined the chance. The statistic shows that every time City play big team in round of 16, they will lose eventually. No one really care if they would be disqualified for the next two seasons. So no reason that City has higher chance to qualify into next phase I think. It's still 50:50.

It cannot be 50/50 when City won the first leg, away from home and are going into the second leg(at the Etihad)with two crucial away goals, they have done half of the job and their chances of going through is obviously higher than that of Real Madrid, any kind of draw and if Madrid score less than two goals, then city go through.

I'll predict the second leg to end in a draw, which will see city go through, with how lethal peps men are in front of goal at the Etihad, they are definitely going to score, Madrid too, both teams will settle for a draw in this game Imo.

Probably there wouldn't be any fans in the stadium due to covid-19 issue, so there is no advantage to play at home then. I know completely what Madrid should do to qualify, and they will do for sure. Tho there were too many matches with remarkable comeback already in UCL so it isn't a new thing. Do you remember how Pep's Bayern lose in Allianz Arena with score 0-4? I know it's not a comeback's story, but in UCL everything can happen. Pep is amazing in Premier League, but he loses his touch in European competition since he left Barcelona.

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Quote from: jayce on May 18, 2020, 10:48:08 AM

Last season people predicted that Man City could beaten Tottenham and went to final but they ruined the chance. The statistic shows that every time City play big team in round of 16, they will lose eventually. No one really care if they would be disqualified for the next two seasons. So no reason that City has higher chance to qualify into next phase I think. It's still 50:50.

It cannot be 50/50 when City won the first leg, away from home and are going into the second leg(at the Etihad)with two crucial away goals, they have done half of the job and their chances of going through is obviously higher than that of Real Madrid, any kind of draw and if Madrid score less than two goals, then city go through.

I'll predict the second leg to end in a draw, which will see city go through, with how lethal peps men are in front of goal at the Etihad, they are definitely going to score, Madrid too, both teams will settle for a draw in this game Imo.

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Quote from: swogerino on May 18, 2020, 03:16:27 AM

I think Manchester City has everything in control when it comes to the second leg against Real Madrid.They have been calm enough to turn the game in Santiago Bernabeu and I think at home they will still play with a cool head again which will help them pass the turn easily.

Last season people predicted that Man City could beaten Tottenham and went to final but they ruined the chance. The statistic shows that every time City play big team in round of 16, they will lose eventually. No one really care if they would be disqualified for the next two seasons. So no reason that City has higher chance to qualify into next phase I think. It's still 50:50.

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Quote from: Juggy777 on May 17, 2020, 04:47:14 AM

@logfiles you need to watch the highlights of the Dortmund game asap because not only did you miss the game, but you also missed the new way of celebrations from the players i.e. shoulder touches, celebrating at least 2 meters away from each other etc. Also it seems that you’re a Real Madrid fan and as a Manchester United fan I’ll be very happy if Madrid can beat our common rival i.e. City, and progress ahead when they meet on August 17th (unofficial date which may be confirmed soon).

I read also that some players from Hertha Berlin were caught to break the distancing rules when celebrating their goals but they will not be punished,,, I think that would make a bad example for others to follow.

But on a positive note, a lot of others followed. I saw all the pictures of the "cutout fans" too. I think it was very cool:)

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@logfiles you need to watch the highlights of the Dortmund game asap because not only did you miss the game, but you also missed the new way of celebrations from the players i.e. shoulder touches, celebrating at least 2 meters away from each other etc. Also it seems that you’re a Real Madrid fan and as a Manchester United fan I’ll be very happy if Madrid can beat our common rival i.e. City, and progress ahead when they meet on August 17th (unofficial date which may be confirmed soon).

This new way of celebration reminds me of graphic some of the first football computers game. each player rejoices for himself.
I am also a Manchester United fan, but I would be sorry if Man. City does not destroy Real Madrid in the second leg. both deserve something like that. btw. If City does nothing this year in CL, with a possible ban it can affect very negative to the club and pull them back a few years.

I think Manchester City has everything in control when it comes to the second leg against Real Madrid.They have been calm enough to turn the game in Santiago Bernabeu and I think at home they will still play with a cool head again which will help them pass the turn easily.

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Quote from: Juggy777 on May 17, 2020, 04:47:14 AM

@logfiles you need to watch the highlights of the Dortmund game asap because not only did you miss the game, but you also missed the new way of celebrations from the players i.e. shoulder touches, celebrating at least 2 meters away from each other etc. Also it seems that you’re a Real Madrid fan and as a Manchester United fan I’ll be very happy if Madrid can beat our common rival i.e. City, and progress ahead when they meet on August 17th (unofficial date which may be confirmed soon).

This new way of celebration reminds me of graphic some of the first football computers game. each player rejoices for himself.
I am also a Manchester United fan, but I would be sorry if Man. City does not destroy Real Madrid in the second leg. both deserve something like that. btw. If City does nothing this year in CL, with a possible ban it can affect very negative to the club and pull them back a few years.

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Quote from: LTU_btc on May 17, 2020, 11:51:22 AM

Well, not everyone if following these guidelines. Hertha player Boyata even kissed his teammate cheek after goal scored:
https://www.goal.com/en/news/bundesliga-players-wont-be-punished-for-not-social/y6ufjek7206w1avqoi28h4oub
IMO, such restrictions isn't needed. I don't think that something bad can happen if they will celebrate goals as usual or shake hands before and after game. There is no social distancing during the game, players touch each other multiple times, so, goal celebration wouldn't be something different.

The precautionary measures should be strict, but stopping players from celebrating goals together, through hugs shouldn't be included, there is no need for that and I'm sure this players touch each other inside the dressing rooms when they are away from camera 'eyes'. If a goal is scored, it should be celebrated, they should concentrate more on testing the players before the games and also when one teammate shows any symptoms of the virus.

I'll guess the league is doing this to show they are implementing every possible social distancing rules, but since they tackle and shove each other during the 90 minutes, mark closely when taking corner kicks and football being a contact sport, then they should also celebrate their goals scored.

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Quote from: Juggy777 on May 17, 2020, 04:47:14 AM

@logfiles you need to watch the highlights of the Dortmund game asap because not only did you miss the game, but you also missed the new way of celebrations from the players i.e. shoulder touches, celebrating at least 2 meters away from each other etc.

Well, not everyone if following these guidelines. Hertha player Boyata even kissed his teammate cheek after goal scored:
https://www.goal.com/en/news/bundesliga-players-wont-be-punished-for-not-social/y6ufjek7206w1avqoi28h4oub
IMO, such restrictions isn't needed. I don't think that something bad can happen if they will celebrate goals as usual or shake hands before and after game. There is no social distancing during the game, players touch each other multiple times, so, goal celebration wouldn't be something different.

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Quote from: logfiles on May 16, 2020, 06:19:31 PM

Happy to notice that the German Bundesliga resumed successfully today. Unfortunately didn't watch the matches but this is good news to the Other remaining major leagues in Europe and the UCL that there is still hope to finish up what they started.

Though it's an uphill task, I can't wait for us to get some sweet revenge on Manchester City at the Etihad and kick them out of the UCL.

@logfiles you need to watch the highlights of the Dortmund game asap because not only did you miss the game, but you also missed the new way of celebrations from the players i.e. shoulder touches, celebrating at least 2 meters away from each other etc. Also it seems that you’re a Real Madrid fan and as a Manchester United fan I’ll be very happy if Madrid can beat our common rival i.e. City, and progress ahead when they meet on August 17th (unofficial date which may be confirmed soon).

Sources:

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-8326321/Erling-Haalands-team-mates-applaud-afar-Freiburg-players-bump-elbows-celebrations.html

https://www.manchestereveningnews.co.uk/sport/football/football-news/champions-league-europa-fixtures-news-18264613

https://www.si.com/soccer/manchestercity/news/likely-date-of-man-citys-champions-league-second-leg-against-real-madrid-set

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