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Quote from: mv1986 on June 04, 2021, 05:52:59 PM

I really wouldn't count on Hungary, in all honesty but that would be the surprise of the decade in that group.

What I think is a very possible outcome: 1. France / 2.Portugal / 3. Germany
I know it is tough but Portugal has a relatively strong squad and I am not sure yet whether Germany will manage to be on point for those games. If they are, they can also beat Germany, but they have a new and young team that is not comparable to that from 2014.

Without a doubt, Group F is the best group, and the most balanced.

Hungary will not make life easy for the other teams.
France will want to "take revenge" on Portugal for the defeat in 2016.
Portugal will want to defend their title well, showing that they are still a strong team.
Germany will want to show that even with new players they are capable of performing well.

I think the group's first journey will be the most important. Not only because it's the beginning of the tournament, but because the defined clashes can harm the campaigns of France or Germany, or both.

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Quote from: snipie on June 04, 2021, 05:09:31 PM

That's why we saw Benzema back to the French team. Deschamps is aware about Griezmann inconsistency and having Benzema as striker playing with Mbappe or Dembele will make the attack line more dangerous and harder to control by the other team.

Griezmann's inconsistency is a concern but regardless of this, he's very good whenever he is in good form. Whenever he isn't, France still has a backup of good players that would fit right in considering they're one of the best attacking teams in the Euro. I watched that game vs Wales, even though greizman scored a stunning goal, I can tell that he is still not at his top form. I don't think any team in the euro would be able to keep this France attack at bay but we'd have to wait to find out.

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Quote from: snipie on June 03, 2021, 05:07:02 PM

Quote from: Slow death on June 03, 2021, 03:39:25 PM

definitely group F is the most difficult group, Portugal and Germany are very strong teams, in this group they have good teams and it will be sad to see some of them not having to move to another stage

Choosing between France, Germany and Portugal is difficult, even Hungary could make a surprise in some matches imo.

Quote from: Iranus on June 03, 2021, 12:53:39 PM

There are many star players in the France team. France have players like Mbappe, Griezmann, Benzema, Pogba and Rabito. Who are now in extraordinary form. Also, France's goalkeeper is Lloris, he is very experienced and skilled. I think France will win against Germany.

France is the best team in group F tho. Second place will be harder to pick and Hungary's games will be essential to determine the ranking.

I really wouldn't count on Hungary, in all honesty but that would be the surprise of the decade in that group.

What I think is a very possible outcome: 1. France / 2.Portugal / 3. Germany
I know it is tough but Portugal has a relatively strong squad and I am not sure yet whether Germany will manage to be on point for those games. If they are, they can also beat Germany, but they have a new and young team that is not comparable to that from 2014.

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Quote from: Joca97 on June 04, 2021, 04:13:01 PM

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Quote from: Slow death on June 04, 2021, 04:01:22 PM

friendly game:

Italy 4 - 0 Czech republic

Is a very positive result for italy even though it's a friendly game

Thats a very positive and good result for Italy and 4 scored goals against Czech republic is a sign.
No teams should be underestimated in this EM , and i guess we will see some surprise results for sure.
Hopefully this surprise is not against germany.
We will see it after the first games how it goes and where the teams are staying.

For me this isnt a surprise,maybe a little bigger result then expected but it was expected from italy to win in this match.Czech Republic maybe trying out some new line ups and testing .While Italy nailed them to the ground and showed some power before the euros

After this win against Czech Republic, Italy is without a defeat for 27 games , and they continue to hold steady at the hands of Mancini.
When you talk about persuasion, I do not see a team that is more convincing so far than the Italians.
There is a distinguished team and excellent performance in every match, and I see them perhaps the most fortunate to dominate the Euro, and although the time is premature, but Italy is the one who lives steadfastly on all Aspects and has all the reasons to be the European champion in this version.

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Quote from: hd49728 on June 04, 2021, 05:09:07 AM

Quote from: snipie on June 03, 2021, 05:07:02 PM

Choosing between France, Germany and Portugal is difficult, even Hungary could make a surprise in some matches imo.

France is the best team in group F tho. Second place will be harder to pick and Hungary's games will be essential to determine the ranking.

I'd like to choose France and Germany in this group. However, France has their own issues. Pogba, Griezman don't have good performances in the past season and they can not simply rely on Kante or Benzema.

That's why we saw Benzema back to the French team. Deschamps is aware about Griezmann inconsistency and having Benzema as striker playing with Mbappe or Dembele will make the attack line more dangerous and harder to control by the other team.

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Quote from: Slow death on June 04, 2021, 04:01:22 PM

friendly game:

Italy 4 - 0 Czech republic
Is a very positive result for italy even though it's a friendly game

A positive result going into the tournament, they were fantastic I watched the first 45mins I was busy so I couldn't finish it, I watched the full highlights and I could see the hunger in the team if they keep the tempo this way it would get them good results at the Euros. Ever since Rosisky and Pet Cech retired from international duties Czech has been lagging behind other top Euro nations, they have to integrate young players in to the first team and rebuild again just like what Netherlands did.

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Quote from: Lafu on June 04, 2021, 04:09:21 PM

Quote from: Slow death on June 04, 2021, 04:01:22 PM

friendly game:

Italy 4 - 0 Czech republic

Is a very positive result for italy even though it's a friendly game

Thats a very positive and good result for Italy and 4 scored goals against Czech republic is a sign.
No teams should be underestimated in this EM , and i guess we will see some surprise results for sure.
Hopefully this surprise is not against germany.
We will see it after the first games how it goes and where the teams are staying.

For me this isnt a surprise,maybe a little bigger result then expected but it was expected from italy to win in this match.Czech Republic maybe trying out some new line ups and testing .While Italy nailed them to the ground and showed some power before the euros

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Quote from: Slow death on June 04, 2021, 04:01:22 PM

friendly game:

Italy 4 - 0 Czech republic

Is a very positive result for italy even though it's a friendly game

Thats a very positive and good result for Italy and 4 scored goals against Czech republic is a sign.
No teams should be underestimated in this EM , and i guess we will see some surprise results for sure.
Hopefully this surprise is not against germany.
We will see it after the first games how it goes and where the teams are staying.

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Quote from: Lafu on June 04, 2021, 04:43:13 AM

Quote from: Slow death on June 03, 2021, 03:39:25 PM

what would be the chance for italy to lose in this group:

group A

Italy
Switzerland
Turkey
Welsh

I guess the chance are very high that they lose in this group , Turkey is playing good and the others are not to underestimate.

I agree that Turkey should not be underestimated because in the last games they have been winning against good teams, but if Italy wants to be a strong candidate to win the euro then it should be able to win the games in that group

friendly game:

Italy 4 - 0 Czech republic

Is a very positive result for italy even though it's a friendly game

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Lol, it is such a funny thing to watch people think that Italy is as good as they claim it is here and then I go check the odds and Italy is 8th or 9th in most people's odds, that is very funny. Ohhh Italy is good this way, oohhh Italy is good that way, and then we have real oddmakers not caring about what you guys think Cheesy

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By the way Turkey beat France which is seen as the biggest chance to win, and also they beat Netherlands which is seen as same odds as Italy. Turkish players play in premier league, ligue 1, serie a, Bundesliga and all other good European leagues as well, they are not from just Turkish league, so do not forget that neither. Most of the players are also good players of their team as well, many premier league teams failed to pass Caglar, you think Italy will? Doubtful. I believe Italy is not as good as people here imagine, sure they are good, 8th or 9th in the odds, that makes them the best team in that group, but not THAT great, they are still "decent" at best.

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Quote from: Slow death on June 03, 2021, 03:39:25 PM

group A

Italy
Switzerland
Turkey
Welsh

i think italy was very lucky to be playing against very weak teams, it will be something of a training game for them and i doubt i will lose any game against those weak teams

There are strong groups in Euro 2020 but don't underestimate this groups quality. I think every team has a similar chance to qualify in this group, especially when you rely on only three games anything can happen. I expect Italy and Türkiye to qualify but if Switzerland and Wales will make the cut I won't be surprised. I'm pretty sure all games will be challenging and hard to guess the winner.

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Quote from: babo on June 04, 2021, 02:08:44 AM

Quote from: Slow death on June 03, 2021, 03:39:25 PM

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group A

Italy
Switzerland
Turkey
Welsh

i think italy was very lucky to be playing against very weak teams, it will be something of a training game for them and i doubt i will lose any game against those weak teams

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Yes i STRONG agree with you.. Italy is luck in this round, but.. remember in football the ball can go in every direction, italy can lost with every weak team!
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Actually that is a problem for the Italian team since we have witnessed in the past what kind of harm so called weak teams could do. Anyway I do not agree with you because Switzerland is not bad at all. I do not know about Turkey and Wales but they do not look that bad, other groups are much worse.

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Quote from: hd49728 on June 04, 2021, 05:09:07 AM

Quote from: condoras on June 04, 2021, 04:31:42 AM

I don't believe either that Italy will lose the first place in this group, unless it's been decided by them so they can face an easier team to the next round. The interesting part for this group is which team will be the second one. Most likely will be Turkey but Switzerland is strong and Welsh although isn't a major team, can do some surprises... Tongue

Yep but as said, I think Italy will struggle to go far and win the Euro. Their player quality are not too good and dominant their opponents. Roberto Mancini does his management good and improve the team and I respect his works.

Now the Italian team is not very strong. Italy's opponents in the group stage are weak. My idea is that if Italy wins against Switzerland then they will reach the next round. Turkey and Wales are not very strong teams. I think Italy will be able to reach the quarter-finals and then they will be eliminated.

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Quote from: snipie on June 03, 2021, 05:07:02 PM

Choosing between France, Germany and Portugal is difficult, even Hungary could make a surprise in some matches imo.

France is the best team in group F tho. Second place will be harder to pick and Hungary's games will be essential to determine the ranking.

I'd like to choose France and Germany in this group. However, France has their own issues. Pogba, Griezman don't have good performances in the past season and they can not simply rely on Kante or Benzema.

Quote from: swogerino on June 04, 2021, 02:42:51 AM

It may look so on paper but it will be difficult for Italy to lose points to Switzerland or Turkey.Switzerland is not what it used to be and Turkey although has beaten Netherlands this does not mean anything because Italy players compared to Turkey players are of a much higher quality and the Serie A where most players of Italy play is much stronger than many of the leagues where Turkey players play.I think Italy if it plays full power will get full points from this group.

Netherlands and Italy will have good chance go next. But with their player resources (Italy) and internal conflicts (Netherlands), I don't believe they will go too far in this Euro. Very surprise to see Netherlands have another conflicts internally before a big tournament. It is their tradition and seems not good.

Quote from: condoras on June 04, 2021, 04:31:42 AM

I don't believe either that Italy will lose the first place in this group, unless it's been decided by them so they can face an easier team to the next round. The interesting part for this group is which team will be the second one. Most likely will be Turkey but Switzerland is strong and Welsh although isn't a major team, can do some surprises... Tongue

Yep but as said, I think Italy will struggle to go far and win the Euro. Their player quality are not too good and dominant their opponents. Roberto Mancini does his management good and improve the team and I respect his works.

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Quote from: snipie on June 03, 2021, 05:07:02 PM

France is the best team in group F tho. Second place will be harder to pick and Hungary's games will be essential to determine the ranking.

I will say not the best but maybe the favorite , sometimes the best team struggle in some kind of cups.
There are nearly 2 weeks for getting started and there can be happen so many .

Quote from: Slow death on June 03, 2021, 03:39:25 PM

what would be the chance for italy to lose in this group:

group A

Italy
Switzerland
Turkey
Welsh

I guess the chance are very high that they lose in this group , Turkey is playing good and the others are not to underestimate.

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Quote from: swogerino on June 04, 2021, 02:42:51 AM

It may look so on paper but it will be difficult for Italy to lose points to Switzerland or Turkey.Switzerland is not what it used to be and Turkey although has beaten Netherlands this does not mean anything because Italy players compared to Turkey players are of a much higher quality and the Serie A where most players of Italy play is much stronger than many of the leagues where Turkey players play.I think Italy if it plays full power will get full points from this group.

I don't believe either that Italy will lose the first place in this group, unless it's been decided by them so they can face an easier team to the next round. The interesting part for this group is which team will be the second one. Most likely will be Turkey but Switzerland is strong and Welsh although isn't a major team, can do some surprises... Tongue

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Quote from: Iranus on June 03, 2021, 12:53:39 PM

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France is a strong team. Winning against such a team is very difficult. Although Germany is a good team, but they are failing to perform as expected against easy opponents. In the previous match they have drawn against Denmark and lost against North Mecodonia. In the match between France and Germany, I will bet on the victory of France. France are a very strong team and they are in form. I believe they will be able to win.

France will probably be seeded to win over Germany. I also think French football is pretty good even when compared to Spain at the moment. This is a time when France have a number of talented players who have the ability to win many match and they deserve to be at the forefront of the world. They would be strong candidate in this competition as well.

There are many star players in the France team. France have players like Mbappe, Griezmann, Benzema, Pogba and Rabito. Who are now in extraordinary form. Also, France's goalkeeper is Lloris, he is very experienced and skilled. I think France will win against Germany.

Undoubtedly this team is one of the best teams in this generation. From their forwards to the players of the defense, almost everyone is talented enough. Even their goalkeeper Loris is experienced enough. I think France will play in the next World Cup final if the players of the team can play well from their position.

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Quote from: swogerino on June 04, 2021, 02:42:51 AM

Quote from: Iranus on June 04, 2021, 02:26:45 AM

Quote from: babo on June 04, 2021, 02:08:44 AM

Quote from: Slow death on June 03, 2021, 03:39:25 PM

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group A

Italy
Switzerland
Turkey
Welsh

i think italy was very lucky to be playing against very weak teams, it will be something of a training game for them and i doubt i will lose any game against those weak teams

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Yes i STRONG agree with you.. Italy is luck in this round, but.. remember in football the ball can go in every direction, italy can lost with every weak team!
11/06 first game if i remember good... Italy Turkey
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Italy's opponents are relatively easy. The teams are weaker than Italy. But Turkey and Switzerland are not very easy opponents. Italy could lose points with these two teams. So in these two matches, Italy must play carefully.

It may look so on paper but it will be difficult for Italy to lose points to Switzerland or Turkey.Switzerland is not what it used to be and Turkey although has beaten Netherlands this does not mean anything because Italy players compared to Turkey players are of a much higher quality and the Serie A where most players of Italy play is much stronger than many of the leagues where Turkey players play.I think Italy if it plays full power will get full points from this group.

@swogerino you’re indeed right to say that Italy can win their games with ease, because they’re a rejuvenated team and they’re hungry for success. It’s also pertinent to note that Italy has a squad that’s has a nice mixture of youth and seniors experience which shall also aid them to easily top this group.

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Quote from: Iranus on June 04, 2021, 02:26:45 AM

Quote from: babo on June 04, 2021, 02:08:44 AM

Quote from: Slow death on June 03, 2021, 03:39:25 PM

~~~

group A

Italy
Switzerland
Turkey
Welsh

i think italy was very lucky to be playing against very weak teams, it will be something of a training game for them and i doubt i will lose any game against those weak teams

~~~

Yes i STRONG agree with you.. Italy is luck in this round, but.. remember in football the ball can go in every direction, italy can lost with every weak team!
11/06 first game if i remember good... Italy Turkey
i am curious

Italy's opponents are relatively easy. The teams are weaker than Italy. But Turkey and Switzerland are not very easy opponents. Italy could lose points with these two teams. So in these two matches, Italy must play carefully.

It may look so on paper but it will be difficult for Italy to lose points to Switzerland or Turkey.Switzerland is not what it used to be and Turkey although has beaten Netherlands this does not mean anything because Italy players compared to Turkey players are of a much higher quality and the Serie A where most players of Italy play is much stronger than many of the leagues where Turkey players play.I think Italy if it plays full power will get full points from this group.

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Quote from: babo on June 04, 2021, 02:08:44 AM

Quote from: Slow death on June 03, 2021, 03:39:25 PM

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group A

Italy
Switzerland
Turkey
Welsh

i think italy was very lucky to be playing against very weak teams, it will be something of a training game for them and i doubt i will lose any game against those weak teams

~~~

Yes i STRONG agree with you.. Italy is luck in this round, but.. remember in football the ball can go in every direction, italy can lost with every weak team!
11/06 first game if i remember good... Italy Turkey
i am curious

Italy's opponents are relatively easy. The teams are weaker than Italy. But Turkey and Switzerland are not very easy opponents. Italy could lose points with these two teams. So in these two matches, Italy must play carefully.

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