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Quote from: boltz on June 09, 2024, 03:40:09 PM

I think it's time to make a quick prediction guys , right ? I will start this one.

1st. England ( going with England because in theory they have the best team and also they are a finalist from previous Euro and that should give them a pretty great boost )

2nd. Spain ( I can never count out tiki-taka Spain from actually reaching a final but if they do , I don't see them winning this time )

3rd. France ( this team in theory should win but after losing world cup final , can they regroup to give us another legendary run towards final ? I doubt it ).

4th. Italy ( because they are the actually winners from previous euro and the experience of this team is massive and you can never count them off )

Disappointments? I think Germany and Croatia will not even reach quarter-finals...but this are just my assumptions. Same can be said for Belgium who are kinda losing that golden team they had on previous years Grin

ENGLAND: They don't have the best team, they just a great collection of sound and great players. They're like lions lead by a goat, they'll not be able to win it with Southgate in charge.

SPAIN: Aye, Same goes with the Spanish National Side, when you look at the squad that won the 2010 Fifa World Cup Competition compared to this one, this a big No ringing up in my head.

FRANCE: They have got a great collection of sound players with a sound coach, I do feel like they're missing out with some levels of creating and creativity players in midfied. Ohh Good Lord, they'll ne missing Paul Pogba.

ITALIANS: They're not to be fucking underestimated, I love Spalletti and this season, it seems like all of the Italian coaches are winning trophies. They'll proceed further but winning? They've got to keep me on my toes, ion see them.

Surprises: Take your time, make proper analysis of these players in the German National Team from defenders to attackers, they're complete, I expect them to impress them home fans.

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Quote from: Rruchi man on June 09, 2024, 05:03:02 PM

Italy are in a very tough group, and their results from the friendly games has not been the best. Bosnia and Herzegovina were not an appropriate match for them, but they still couldn't score enough goals to win the game in a convincing manner. If they take themis lackluster performance to the competition, they will find it difficult to pass the group stage.

Teams like Spain and Croatia had a very good result in their friendly preparations for the competition, they will be two very strong teams in that group for Italy to contend with.

This is an interesting group as Croatia made big surprise in latest World Cups and Euros but this Euro tournament can be different for Croatia. Their golden generation comes to their career endings while their next generation of players is not good enough. I really feel doubtful about young players of Croatian team can carry heavy tasks left by old players like Mandzukic, Moddric, Rakitic, Perisic, Brozovic and Kovacic.

It makes sense to wait for another surprising tournament from Croatia but I am keen on their failure in this Euro.

Quote from: Zaguru12 on June 09, 2024, 06:22:50 PM

Italy have certainly have a poor outing In the friendly matches ahead of their tittle defense which most fans are worried about. Seriously I don’t think I am worried about this favorite Nations tipped to win this tournament having a poor performance in the friendlies. First of all the games are against nations that are not coming to the tournament and it will be risky to play in full force against them. This will risk the players into picking unnecessary injuries before the tournament.

National coaches will try to maximize their tactics if they have yet finalized best tactics to use. If they already finalized best tactics for Euro, they will try to use alternative players for last friendly matches to prepare for Euro. In a long tournament, alternative players are important for the national team performance, while shortly before Euro, coaches will not want to use main players for friendly matches because risk of injuries is big after a long season. Any injury on star players now will be terrible for their plans.

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Quote from: Gencecikmen on June 09, 2024, 04:23:02 PM

The last title Italy played a friendly match against Bosnia-Herzegovina ahead of the tournament. With Davide Frattesi scoring in the 38th minute, Italy won 1-0. In EURO 2024, Italy will be in Group B alongside Spain, Croatia, and Albania, while Bosnia-Herzegovina won’t be competing in EURO24. A few days ago, Italy also played a friendly match against Turkey, resulting in a 0-0 draw.

Italy have certainly have a poor outing In the friendly matches ahead of their tittle defense which most fans are worried about. Seriously I don’t think I am worried about this favorite Nations tipped to win this tournament having a poor performance in the friendlies. First of all the games are against nations that are not coming to the tournament and it will be risky to play in full force against them. This will risk the players into picking unnecessary injuries before the tournament. The club season just ended, a very heavy matches or training is not needed now just so as matches. Take a look at the like of Turkey who have just lost their player Unal to injury sustained in this pre tournament matches.

Secondly this matches usually been more of screening for some players, some managers invited way above the 26 required to take to euros and are using the pre tournament matches to get their selections. This has resulted in the players not having a good chance to showcase their talents or even the manager picking a better team to play since almost everyone will need to participate

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Quote from: Gencecikmen on June 09, 2024, 04:23:02 PM

In EURO 2024, Italy will be in Group B alongside Spain, Croatia, and Albania,

Italy are in a very tough group, and their results from the friendly games has not been the best. Bosnia and Herzegovina were not an appropriate match for them, but they still couldn't score enough goals to win the game in a convincing manner. If they take themis lackluster performance to the competition, they will find it difficult to pass the group stage.

Teams like Spain and Croatia had a very good result in their friendly preparations for the competition, they will be two very strong teams in that group for Italy to contend with.

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Quote from: boltz on June 09, 2024, 03:40:09 PM

I think it's time to make a quick prediction guys , right ? I will start this one.

1st. England ( going with England because in theory they have the best team and also they are a finalist from previous Euro and that should give them a pretty great boost )

2nd. Spain ( I can never count out tiki-taka Spain from actually reaching a final but if they do , I don't see them winning this time )

3rd. France ( this team in theory should win but after losing world cup final , can they regroup to give us another legendary run towards final ? I doubt it ).

4th. Italy ( because they are the actually winners from previous euro and the experience of this team is massive and you can never count them off )

Disappointments? I think Germany and Croatia will not even reach quarter-finals...but this are just my assumptions. Same can be said for Belgium who are kinda losing that golden team they had on previous years Grin

Bookmakers rate the odds of Germany reaching the quarter-finals as 1.33 and the odds of them failing to do so as 3.05. For Croatia, these quotes are no less optimistic and amount to 1.30 and 3.25, respectively.
The only real option for Germany not to reach the quarter-finals is if they fail to take first place in Group A and in the 1/8 they end up with Spain/Italy.

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The last title Italy played a friendly match against Bosnia-Herzegovina ahead of the tournament. With Davide Frattesi scoring in the 38th minute, Italy won 1-0. In EURO 2024, Italy will be in Group B alongside Spain, Croatia, and Albania, while Bosnia-Herzegovina won’t be competing in EURO24. A few days ago, Italy also played a friendly match against Turkey, resulting in a 0-0 draw.

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Quote from: boltz on June 09, 2024, 03:40:09 PM

I think it's time to make a quick prediction guys , right ? I will start this one.
1st. England ( going with England because in theory they have the best team and also they are a finalist from previous Euro and that should give them a pretty great boost )
2nd. Spain ( I can never count out tiki-taka Spain from actually reaching a final but if they do , I don't see them winning this time )
3rd. France ( this team in theory should win but after losing world cup final , can they regroup to give us another legendary run towards final ? I doubt it ).
4th. Italy ( because they are the actually winners from previous euro and the experience of this team is massive and you can never count them off )
Disappointments? I think Germany and Croatia will not even reach quarter-finals...but this are just my assumptions. Same can be said for Belgium who are kinda losing that golden team they had on previous years Grin

The friendlies are not a measure, but I don't like England and France's recent form. Unlike the World Cup, in this type of tournament there can be surprises. I think this tournament will be like that.
England are the favorites but it's obvious that they have never won a major tournament. They start every tournament thinking that this time it will happen and then they get disappointed again. I like Spain, we can say they are a tournament type team instead of a league type team. I think they have a serious chance. France can advance but I don't think they will win, they have hard times scoring against good teams. I'm not sure what will happen with Germany, I wouldn't be surprised if they are eliminated early like you said, or if they reach the final. I think at least one surprise team will be in the semi finals though.

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Quote from: boltz on June 09, 2024, 03:40:09 PM

I think it's time to make a quick prediction guys , right ? I will start this one.

1st. England ( going with England because in theory they have the best team and also they are a finalist from previous Euro and that should give them a pretty great boost )

2nd. Spain ( I can never count out tiki-taka Spain from actually reaching a final but if they do , I don't see them winning this time )

3rd. France ( this team in theory should win but after losing world cup final , can they regroup to give us another legendary run towards final ? I doubt it ).

4th. Italy ( because they are the actually winners from previous euro and the experience of this team is massive and you can never count them off )

Disappointments? I think Germany and Croatia will not even reach quarter-finals...but this are just my assumptions. Same can be said for Belgium who are kinda losing that golden team they had on previous years Grin

Overall I agree with you, but Germany deserves to be the favorite because they act as host for this edition, which can encourage them to have high self confidence. Apart from that, Belgium fate is actually almost the same as England, they have a golden generation but failed to perform according to expectations. I have to admit that England currently has better and more even squad depth.

I will put France, Germany, England, Italy, Croatia, Portugal, Spain and Belgium, of course this may also not be in accordance with many people opinions, and that is only based on simple analysis such as looking at the performance of the players at their club level. Apart from all that, it is possible that EURO 2024 will be won by a surprise team this time, recently there have been lots happen of surprises in football.

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I think it's time to make a quick prediction guys , right ? I will start this one.

1st. England ( going with England because in theory they have the best team and also they are a finalist from previous Euro and that should give them a pretty great boost )

2nd. Spain ( I can never count out tiki-taka Spain from actually reaching a final but if they do , I don't see them winning this time )

3rd. France ( this team in theory should win but after losing world cup final , can they regroup to give us another legendary run towards final ? I doubt it ).

4th. Italy ( because they are the actually winners from previous euro and the experience of this team is massive and you can never count them off )

Disappointments? I think Germany and Croatia will not even reach quarter-finals...but this are just my assumptions. Same can be said for Belgium who are kinda losing that golden team they had on previous years Grin

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Quote from: Ondekinecakabilirim on June 09, 2024, 04:44:50 AM

Euro 2024 will start next week. The last friendly matches are being played these days. And we are seeing some surprise results. That's why I try not to bet on friendly matches. But when the schedule is not rich, I have to. Cheesy

Tonight's match between Italy and Bosnia and Herzegovina caught my attention. Italy is in Euro 2024. Bosnia and Herzegovina is not in Euro 2024. It will be an interesting match. I won't bet again. But I watched Italy last time when they played against Turkiye. Bosnia and Herzegovina will not be an easy opponent for them, even if it is a friendly match. I think under 2,5 goals in this match.

According to the schedule, until the 12th there was still a team from the European Continent who would carry out a friendly match if the schedule was not canceled. The team that will play on that date is Portugal vs Ireland. The euro group stage will begin on June 15.

Betting in a friendly match is very risky because the results may be very different from the analysis conducted given the seriousness of each national team will be different from the seriousness of undergoing matches in the official tournament.

I will refrain from betting on a friendly match that will be played by several good teams that take place in several places.

I agree that there is no point in betting on a friendly, most teams are just testing the "who should stay" players, not their best players because they already know which players will stay if they are good enough, so only the ones who are not entirely sure are playing to see which one is better. On the other hand, when euro 2024 starts, as someone who has betted on these before I can say that I have seen worse situations before as well, doesn't really feel like it would be all that much better neither.

The best thing to do right now would be just making sure that you trust your bet very much before you could end up with anything better. I personally believe that it will take a while for people to get used to it, but that doesn't mean that we are going to end up with a great result. I have wagered on many great teams and lost a lot of money before, because these are good players but they rarely play together.

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Quote from: Ondekinecakabilirim on June 09, 2024, 04:44:50 AM

Euro 2024 will start next week. The last friendly matches are being played these days. And we are seeing some surprise results. That's why I try not to bet on friendly matches. But when the schedule is not rich, I have to. Cheesy

Tonight's match between Italy and Bosnia and Herzegovina caught my attention. Italy is in Euro 2024. Bosnia and Herzegovina is not in Euro 2024. It will be an interesting match. I won't bet again. But I watched Italy last time when they played against Turkiye. Bosnia and Herzegovina will not be an easy opponent for them, even if it is a friendly match. I think under 2,5 goals in this match.

This is the last friendly match for Italy before they fight at Euro 2024 and indeed just like people says friendly match cannot be used as the reference the performance of the particular teams in the real tournament because usually for friendly matches some of the managers doesn't care about the results so win or lost it doesn't matter for them but usually friendly matches is utilized to analyzed the weaknesses of the team even so with this match because Spaletti said he will used the match against Bosnia and Herzegovina to evaluated team condition before playing at Euro 2024 later

Spaletti has been said Bosnia and Herzegovina is very good for counter attack so today he will assume Bosnia and Herzegovina will playing with defensive style so that's why he was predict there won't be many goals scored but Spaletti still hope Italy can gets positive result from this match because it will boosted Italy players confidence and about the result of this match i still considers Italy have good chances to beat Bosnia and Herzegovina but indeed for betting option i have to agree with you that under 2.5 goals is good pick

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Quote from: KTChampions on June 09, 2024, 08:35:22 AM

Perfectly understand your pain, i had it with Liverpool losing at home to Luton.
I don’t know how natural this result was and how much it was determined by the friendly nature of the game, but now I also very much doubt England’s prospects. But not because they play poorly, but because of a scandal with allegedly racist overtones (English newspapers made Saka the face of defeat, although he only came as a substitute) and this could affect the team.

Remembering that pain Liverpool once lost at home to Anfield against Atalanta. Haha

Is this a lack of confidence by the England national team? Although friendlies have no value but they have a little influence at least before the EURO is about to start especially what you said there is racism which of course this will affect the entire England national team squad.

I doubt the England national team now but don't know completely when the EURO starts, we have to see how England plays when the EURO starts but honestly still doubt it to bet on this national team.

I remember that game, but these are, on the contrary, pleasant memories because I remember that the odds for Liverpool to win were something like 1.3 and it seemed to me completely inadequate because Atalanta is a decent team, and Liverpool was focused on the Premier League. I didn’t place a bet that time and naturally I was very pleased, since Liverpool unexpectedly lost 3-0.

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Quote from: Lucius on June 09, 2024, 05:41:54 AM

The bookies made a lot of money yesterday because only a few doubted the victory of Portugal, but that's always the case with those who bet on teams just because they think that Portugal is better than Croatia because they have Ronaldo - who was officially announced that he won't even play in that match

To be honest, I don't think that either bookies or those who like to bet underestimated us. We played against a very good side on their turf, and on top of that we had (and still do) a very bad score against them - 1 draw and 6 defeats.

Quote from: Distraction on June 09, 2024, 07:43:13 AM

Truthfully I don't think friendly matches are called "official matches".

Of course they are official matches as Fifa counts them for ranking and players count caps and goals. They are of course not as importanat as WC/Continental championships but they are very much official so I just don't understand from where you get your reasoning other than ignorance.

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Quote from: Ondekinecakabilirim on June 09, 2024, 04:44:50 AM

Euro 2024 will start next week. The last friendly matches are being played these days. And we are seeing some surprise results. That's why I try not to bet on friendly matches. But when the schedule is not rich, I have to. Cheesy

Tonight's match between Italy and Bosnia and Herzegovina caught my attention. Italy is in Euro 2024. Bosnia and Herzegovina is not in Euro 2024. It will be an interesting match. I won't bet again. But I watched Italy last time when they played against Turkiye. Bosnia and Herzegovina will not be an easy opponent for them, even if it is a friendly match. I think under 2,5 goals in this match.

According to the schedule, until the 12th there was still a team from the European Continent who would carry out a friendly match if the schedule was not canceled. The team that will play on that date is Portugal vs Ireland. The euro group stage will begin on June 15.

Betting in a friendly match is very risky because the results may be very different from the analysis conducted given the seriousness of each national team will be different from the seriousness of undergoing matches in the official tournament.

I will refrain from betting on a friendly match that will be played by several good teams that take place in several places.

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Quote from: Harkorede on June 09, 2024, 09:29:42 AM

If we are going to based off James Maddison’s exclusion from the squad to a baseless fact of Gareth Southgate not being a fan of his, then it’s an insult to guys who have merited their spot on the list, If Maddison had deserve the call better than anyone else who the play similar in the list then I could agree with you, but in this case that’s not true, at least from my point of view

I consider Maddison can be more helpful for England in Euro than Mainoo or Wharton but Southgate want to bet and on young players than on experienced one like Maddison. Young players need to be given opportunities but Jude Bellingham had to miss Euro 2020 before was chosen for World Cup 2022. Mainoo and Wharton can wait for two more years to be called for England team in a big competition.

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even when Maguire was facing backlash in Man United, Southgate consistently had him in the squad, so now that there is supposedly a better option and limited spot would it be fair to presume that Southgate just doesn’t like Maguire, rather than him just doing his job and selecting players that best suit his approach and squad needs ?

Southgate did make surprising decision because I thought he will continue to call Maguire for this Euro but at the end, he did not pick Maguire but he made me surprised more by choosing Luke Shaw. He only called one left defender Luke Shaw and the player missed most matches of the season. He bets that Luke Shaw can contribute for the team and hope that other right defenders can replace that left position if Luke Shaw can not play.

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Quote from: Justbillywitt on June 09, 2024, 09:05:11 AM

Gareth Southgate isn't a fan of Madison even if he Madison win the player of the season Southgate won't still fancy him. How many times has he invited Madison to the England squad? Even when Madison was playing good Southgate will still over look him so I'm not surprised why he hurriedly remove him from the squad. Tottenham finished ahead of Chelsea and far ahead of crystal palace still players from Chelsea and Crystal palace were considered ahead of Madison which is very bad. Madison had a very good season at Tottenham before and after the injury. The few times Southgate invited Madison to the national team, he hardly feature him, which completely show his hatred for him. This is just the breakout season for players like Mainoo and palmer and you already trusting them more than your old players. I'm just waiting patiently to see how England will perform in this tournament.

If we are going to based off James Maddison’s exclusion from the squad to a baseless fact of Gareth Southgate not being a fan of his, then it’s an insult to guys who have merited their spot on the list, If Maddison had deserve the call better than anyone else who the play similar in the list then I could agree with you, but in this case that’s not true, at least from my point of view, even when Maguire was facing backlash in Man United, Southgate consistently had him in the squad, so now that there is supposedly a better option and limited spot would it be fair to presume that Southgate just doesn’t like Maguire, rather than him just doing his job and selecting players that best suit his approach and squad needs ?

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Quote from: entertheabyss on June 08, 2024, 08:28:22 PM

Quote from: Harkorede on June 08, 2024, 07:28:13 PM

Maddison was a complete shit with Tottenham this season, Ben Chilwell couldn't even get a starting spot in a mediocre Chelsea team, Luke Shaw and Kyle Walker are two England players that have good pace and can be used as CB when the need arise in certain matches, England have great pace in attack and wide areas of the midfield but when it comes to playing teams that have also got pace in attack, I really don't see a better choice for them at the back than having either Kyle Walker or Luke Shaw help with CB defensive duties, because the choice of either Trippier and/or Arnold as we all know lack pace and are extremely vulnerable in defense compared to either Walker or Shaw.

Jack Grealish barely played for City this past season and the options called ahead of him are literally very much justified, who would you rather drop for Grealish ?? Foden, Gordon or Eze, each and every of these players had a much better season than Grealish in terms of form and performance... Would anybody pick Maddison over Cole Palmer or Jude Bellingham ?

If you all are mentioning Grealish, Chilwell and Maddison, you might as well just add Raheem Sterling, Reece James and Marcus Rashford since it seems rather just more about the players name, than what they can currently offer or what the squads actually need!

If we're mentioning players, there's more of them that Gareth Southgate have dropped from his squad based on realizing their incompetence and peak.

Maddison is among one of the best players for Tottenham Hotspur this season but he has completely failed to make progress other than picking up severe injury that will keep him unbalance. England have one of the best category of players but they've failed to win any significant any major title. They've always fall out from these top phased which is quite understanding.

Gareth Southgate isn't a fan of Madison even if he Madison win the player of the season Southgate won't still fancy him. How many times has he invited Madison to the England squad? Even when Madison was playing good Southgate will still over look him so I'm not surprised why he hurriedly remove him from the squad. Tottenham finished ahead of Chelsea and far ahead of crystal palace still players from Chelsea and Crystal palace were considered ahead of Madison which is very bad. Madison had a very good season at Tottenham before and after the injury. The few times Southgate invited Madison to the national team, he hardly feature him, which completely show his hatred for him. This is just the breakout season for players like Mainoo and palmer and you already trusting them more than your old players. I'm just waiting patiently to see how England will perform in this tournament.

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Quote from: KTChampions on June 09, 2024, 08:35:22 AM

Perfectly understand your pain, i had it with Liverpool losing at home to Luton.
I don’t know how natural this result was and how much it was determined by the friendly nature of the game, but now I also very much doubt England’s prospects. But not because they play poorly, but because of a scandal with allegedly racist overtones (English newspapers made Saka the face of defeat, although he only came as a substitute) and this could affect the team.

Remembering that pain Liverpool once lost at home to Anfield against Atalanta. Haha

Is this a lack of confidence by the England national team? Although friendlies have no value but they have a little influence at least before the EURO is about to start especially what you said there is racism which of course this will affect the entire England national team squad.

I doubt the England national team now but don't know completely when the EURO starts, we have to see how England plays when the EURO starts but honestly still doubt it to bet on this national team.

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Quote from: Slow death on June 08, 2024, 01:21:39 AM

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yesterday there were friendly games and I decided to add some friendly games to my multibet bet, as they were games it was easy to predict the result, so I didn't see a problem with adding a lot of games, especially because the odds were very low, but man, when I woke up today and I went to see my bet, I was really shocked by this:

They lost against Iceland, I know it was a friendly game and that in most friendly games the coaches choose not to put the best players on the field, but in these friendlies most coaches are playing with their best players and England also put their best players on the field, but England still failed to score a goal and lost the game. which shocked me because even the low odds value in favor of England made me think that England would hardly lose in this game. As I already said in my last post: I highly doubt that England will be able to beat this euro. see that in the last 5 games in which England played against Iceland, this is the first time that they failed to score 1 goal
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Perfectly understand your pain, i had it with Liverpool losing at home to Luton.
I don’t know how natural this result was and how much it was determined by the friendly nature of the game, but now I also very much doubt England’s prospects. But not because they play poorly, but because of a scandal with allegedly racist overtones (English newspapers made Saka the face of defeat, although he only came as a substitute) and this could affect the team.

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Truthfully I don't think friendly matches are called "official matches". If we call them like that then what matches can we call not official?

Friendly ones are only like a warm-up for an official competition. Just as the recent friendly matches right before Euro 2024. Teams prefer not to risk their best players too much at the same time so we don't see the same starting elevens in a friendly compared to the Euro.

Even the Nations League looks like a not much serious competition for me. Tongue

We don't see the same ambition from players when we compare it to Euro or World Cup performances.

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