Topic: ⚽ UEFA Euro 2024 in Germany ⚽ - Qualifiers - page 248. (Read 46401 times)

I have always wondered that, but here what you know is that Deschamps has everything under control, perhaps he is a much better politician than Zidane, and football greatly influences politics and the contacts you have, yes, Zidane is the best as a coach, but he is someone who does not lend himself very well to political things, he is more focused on football and his beauty as such, he has shown it with Madrid both as a player and as a coach, for me he is the best, but if they have him in France As the best coach, I think it is very difficult for them to take him out, unless in the Euro they take them out in the first round, something like that, it would be a shame because it is true, Mbappé is very good, but sometimes it is a shame. Great teams also experience their crises.

To be fair, what I understood from his and your messages, is that there is a possibility that he could, and a possibility of he may not. I am not saying that either will be the case, but if he was appointed as manager of France, right now, which is very few weeks left until the euro starts, that wouldn't be enough time, but even with that, it doesn't mean that he will fail, doesn't mean that he will succeed.

We basically don't know how it will end, and we should probably consider how we could do better in the end. It would mean that we are going to end up with something that will not be all that simple, it is going to end up with a lot of trouble in the end. We should probably consider how it could be considered differently.

Only a month to go for Euro 2024 to begin! I'm excited already because my country, Turkey, is also participating in this big competition. 

Our group isn't very easy though. Portugal is the biggest challenge for us. Ronaldo is still scoring like a machine at his national team. I'm worried about him the most in our game against them. 

Czech Republic is the second biggest challenge but we actually have a good history against them in Euros. If we defeat them I'm confident about reaching next round. Because Georgia are the weakest competitor in the group.

You know the funny thing about people like you. You quote an entire block of posts and comments from a while ago. And then ask a question that the entire post you quotes was discussing why.

Why wouldn't Zidane do the same for national team what he did for Real Madrid? Maybe read what you quoted (especially what I wrote) to find out why I said it's different and why others discussed so we don't have to repeat what we said.

Or better, give us the reasons why you think he will do the same to counter our arguments? Zidane needs to be convinced lol

Coaching a national team is not the same as coaching a club. On a club, you get the meet the player for a whole year and you get to notice their growth as a player throughout so you could always get to change your strategy based on that if its not working but you cant do so on National team. Basically you pick all those players that will match your strategy requirement with the risk of it not working out for you on the tournament but you cant really change the players you brought into the teams so yeah

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France is a great team with important players. They have one of the best players in the world like Mbappe. They are one of the important favorites for Euro 2024. Zidane is a coach who has achieved great success with Real Madrid. Why wouldn't they do the same with the national team? He may be one of the people who will make the biggest contribution to the French national team reaching the top level.

I think these discussions are pretty normal and it should not be forgotten that Deschamps has been the coach of the French national team for 12 years now. At some point people prefer some change and it is not surprising at all that the name Zidane is mentioned again and again. Deschamps was pretty successful, but the people mostly look back at the World Cup title in 2018 and not so much at the Nations League title as that doesn't really mean all that much.

As an outsider, I think that the name Zidane carries a bit more weight than the name Deschamps. Both had exceptional careers, but my guess is that more people sympathize with Zidane than with Deschamps. But in regards to their quality as a coach, I think there wouldn't be much of a difference for the Euro 2024. They will be the favorites anyway although I think at the moment England is seen as the favorite along with France. Spain and the Netherlands are quite far behind, but in my opinion these teams do have a chance to get something done at that tournament.

What you say is quite reasonable in my opinion, although Zidane managed to make Madrid champions during his coaching, but certainly it will be very difficult for him to be able to bring France to be better than Deschamps is doing now, Zidane got all his wishes when coaching Madrid because the club is ready to fulfill it, but for a national team coach of course many things must be done by the coach himself and of course it takes hard work and also experience in selecting players.

For now it will be very risky for France if it gives belief zidane to coach the national team, because after all winning the Champions League 3 in a row is easier than qualifying the national team for the World Cup or the Euros so far, I think the success of coaching a club does not guarantee that the coach will be able to bring glory to the national team and we can see Luis Enrique, Fabio Capello and Hansi Flick who failed miserably in the national team but have many achievements in the clubs they coached during the time this, I think if Zidane wants to gain belief as a national team coach of course he has to start from the bottom by being an assistant or coaching and bringing success to some other different clubs at the moment, so that will make his chances of coaching the national team will be quite big in the future.

Didier Deschamps have been long term manager for France and won Euro and FIFA World Cup trophies, I don't see bad achievement for France national teams under Didier Deschamps era and replacing his position by Zidane. I think its rumor have been long term and France football federation right now keep focus with Didier Deschamps until the next edition playing in Europe 2024.
No doubt with Zidane reputation success winning Champion League three teams with Real Madrid and winning La Liga tittle, but he has been three years without return back to be manager and likely he needs more adaption if want to be France manager position.
Depend on France teams achievement in Euro 2024, if qualify to final and success become the winner seems dificult with Didier Deschamps loss his position as France manager.

Zidane has earned whatever he wants to earn by winning three champions league titles in a row. I am not saying that he showed anything else, that was it, he managed for only three seasons and he did nothing else and won that three UCL back to back. That alone is a reason why he is not coming back.

Why would he? He has all the money in the world, a good investment strategy I bet, and will never need money. He tried his hand at manager position, won three UCL in a row, and if he ever comes back and loses that would taint his reputation as a manager. Imagine him going to France, and then the team sucks and loses, wouldn't he be the one that would be responsible for it? The team does good already, if they do badly, then all his reputation he built as a manager would be gone. So, he is rightfully afraid.

With time I believe that Zidane will make a great manager for the French side having been a player who won the world cup trophy for France 1998 and have contributed so much in the French national team. I feel there will be so much nationalism and solidarity among the players with Zidane as the coach. No doubt Didier Deschamps have this special way of bringing the best in the players, having returned the team to a formidable force after some years of poor performance, I admire his coaching skills and charisma.

It is obvious you are underestimating Zinadine Zidane. He has all that is needed to make a great coach for the French side and just a matter of time before it becomes obvious that they made the best choice making him their coach. You cannot just rate him when he barely even started the job, at least after playing two serious competitions it will be easier to access him.  

England are favoured the most considering the current odds given for the champion. But the odd gap is very small with France.

What are your thoughts on this? Do you expect England to finish their incomplete job from Euro 2020 finale? Or would we even see a different champion than England and France?

It would be a big relief for Southgate if he finally achieves a championship with England though. 


I talked about Turkey and Czechia like that not only by depending on Turkey's latest performances in the qualifiers. But also considering the history between these 2 countries in football as well. Turkey have a really good history against them especially in Euro tournaments. Maybe psychological advantage might also have some role. 

However we will see maybe I will be wrong and your prediction will come true.

Yeah, and to be perfectly fair Deschamps is also very well respected in his system, Zidane has not earned it yet, it will be very hard unless he starts out first as adviser or something, or technical assistant. And maybe he feels he's too big to take the role.

You can't step in and build a bond or winning mentality you have to start before you start. I don't think Zidane is a fit at all, I mean I like him so much even as a Barca fan, but I think France needs to look forward, not behind.

I agree, that seems to be working as well, one world cup and one world cup finals shows that they are doing alright, I do not think that there is a need to change it anytime soon. France has been pretty well and I think whatever they are doing seems to be working and should keep going. I think they could have won the euro as well, they just got a little unlucky that's all.

I believe that they have a golden generation, great amount of players who are about the same age, and could be a powerhouse for at least 10 more years, that could be very dangerous for the world but it is the truth. This isn't just about Mbappe, sure he is amazing, but even if you remove him, the rest of the squad isn't all that bad neither when you look at it.

If it is for France it will definitely be a yes, but since Deschamps is there it is something difficult, because it has to be the French football federation that decides on this, they should not doubt it, because Deschamps already had an opportunity, it is time for him to change. Hands to whoever directs, Zidane deserves a good opportunity, I know that Zidane has fresh ideas, plus the good work he did with Madrid is a resume enough for me to direct him to the French national team, they have also been close to win World Cups and they haven't been able to, then something is wrong and if Deschamps already saw that he can't correct his mistake, that when he doesn't like a player he doesn't put it in, then these types of things are the ones that harm the team in general, For that reason I think that Zidane is new blood, he plays well with the players and he can win the Euro, at least with the EURO They should let him try to see how they do.

You have a point there also.    France players have been used to playing according to Didier Deschamps system for so many years. There must be a really strong bond there. When there is such change it won't be easy for the players to adapt to Zidane. This would take some good amount of time to happen. As you said it is the same for Zidane also to have full knowledge about the players.

I really don't know what Zidane really wants now though. It has been rumoured for a long time that he wants to work with France as a manager but I don't know if this is really his intention now.

You hit the nail on the head, that's why I think a lot about the style of a Luis Enrique from Spain, I remember how Deschamps made Benzema go and didn't put him to play with Mbappé, I mean something, if he had played with Mbappé maybe the winner It would not have been Argentina in the World Cup , it is very difficult, because considering the way I see Zidane, I remember that when I was in Madrid, he did not include James , and it was because the Colombian did not go to training, it was not prudent He didn't like him, so he would say that he can play very well, and even be the best, but you have to win the position on the field, it is the most common, if only a player who has less talent than another wins, So someone who is a genius has to respect the team, his teammates and the coach, so I think that basically that is the difference between him and Deschamps.

Remember, qualifying and the cup itself may have different players, the same Turkey (maybe they didn't care) lost to Austria 6-1 just this break, and they looked like a team that was so horrible that I can't believe that they even qualified, let alone have a chance to actually lead that group.

If they play the same way, they will end up with zero points without a doubt, and considering they do get rare chances to attend these cups, I feel like it wouldn't be that good for them to have such a bad result, it's doubtful they would be in world cup, and they will be forced to hope that they can do better next time out. All in all, I believe that things change, not just for Turkey, but it changes for many teams, from qualifying to cup itself.

In this group there are no doubts only about Portugal, they were lucky with such simple opponents for them, in everything else there is no certainty, I would not even be surprised if Georgia is not the last. But I am still more inclined to believe that the Czech Republic will be able to take second place, they are showing a good game, but the one who does not lose to Portugal will have the best chance, and for the Czech Republic it will be a difficult start, they will play the first match with Portugal.

I would say don't underestimate Turkey.    Turkey are already favoured more than Czechia to qualify from Group F according to the odds. Turkey had a better qualification phase than them as well. We finished our group as the leader and ahead of a team like Croatia at the same time. This is a really good success.


Source: https://www.oddschecker.com/football/euro-2024/group-f/winner

This happened thanks to the new manager Vincenzo Montella's strategies. Friendly performances can be very misleading so I'm not taking them into account. Besides we didn't even have our main squad in that match against Austria. I think we are strong enough to beat Czechia and Georgia both to finish in 2nd place at worst.