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Having line up decision making is tough when it comes to last places, like if it was just 15 players then we know which 15 that England will mainly play with, but when it comes to 25th guy, things change a bit and that should not be all that easy at all, we need to realize that we are going to get something quite difficult in the end. I believe that we are going to end up with something that will benefit everyone, if the lineups were more like 30, that extra five would definitely help out a lot.

I am sure there will still be some talks on some players not being called up, but it would be less because with 30 you are getting five more, so you need to be really not deserving or hated by the manager to not get in that list at all.
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One thing I have noticed with Southgate his the fact that he definitely has his favourites and it takes more than just playing time to get him to drop them. A clear example was how he stood behind Maguire last season when he had bad times and wasn’t playing and if you ask me Maguire always repairs him for that by putting solid performances for the club everytime he plays for England. Right now he has Luke Shaw in his provisional squad ahead of Chilwell and some other players. Yes Shaw has been out majorly for a long term but he hasn’t picked the player yet and even if he does I will say he has maybe assess him very well. We can use the long term absence to say he shouldn’t be there but there is no left back better than him in the league. When Chilwell played poorly In the last friendlies I was show Southgate Will begging to have Shaw back and right now he is looking at the possibility. If not he has the young mitchel in the squad too or better still uses Tripper there as a wing back in a back three formation.

I am not surprised that Sancho isn’t there though both him and Sterling have been in the bad books of Southgate long ago but aside that I don’t think Sancho has done anything extraordinary to be in ahead of those called up to except maybe Jack Grealish. The rest on that squad had a better season than him even statistically Rashford was better than him
To be fair many of the managers have the same issue. Because these cups are rare in between, you end up seeing very few players play for it, and when one of the players who deserve it misses the cup on the season they deserve it, maybe they will not have such a good season again and not deserve it and miss it completely.

I remember, a player like Benzema literally quite just because of manager problems, which is understandable if you are treated terribly, players could just decline too, just like how managers may not call up players. I understand national pride takes control of some people, but if you do not want to, you could avoid it. Managers have the last say, and because of that any mistake a manager does, costs a team 4 years until the next one.
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I don't also find Southgate's choices fully correct. Luke Shaw has been injured for months indeed. Why would you call him for national squad?  Huh

Jadon Sancho hasn't been called at the same time. I don't think he is performing as bad as the time he was at Manchester United. He has started improving at Dortmund but interestingly not being called.

I think he did okay with not calling Rashford. He had a terrible season. If I were in Southgate's place I wouldn't also call him while there are attackers on the rise deserving the national duty more than him.  Smiley
Southgate made some bad player callings for England squad because players with long injured time like Luke Shaw will usuallly struggle to come back. Tournament like Euro or World Cup is very short, within one month, that is not enough for any player to warm up and get familiar with different in intensity of training and actual matches.

Ignoring other players who play many matches, have good forms to choose Luke Shaw, Southgate makes a high risky choice.

Sancho and Rashford don't have good performances in this season and with Sancho, some latest good matches for Dortmund in Champions League are not enough to convince Southgate and it is explainable.

The attacking call up for England is perfect, I'm not just okay with Jack Grealish because he has done nothing this season to earn that place in the squad heading for the Euro's.
Jadon Sancho doing well but those on the list are far better than him this very season. Phil Foden, Harry Kane, Jude Bellingham even Ivan Toney is a player who I think deserves a place ahead of Jadon Sancho.
Don't choose Sancho but choose Grealish, it's strange because it's nearly impossible to assess Grealish did better than Sancho in this season. Southgate tends to choose players with effect from his prejudice, not base on player performances.
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I don't also find Southgate's choices fully correct. Luke Shaw has been injured for months indeed. Why would you call him for national squad?  Huh

Jadon Sancho hasn't been called at the same time. I don't think he is performing as bad as the time he was at Manchester United. He has started improving at Dortmund but interestingly not being called.

I think he did okay with not calling Rashford. He had a terrible season. If I were in Southgate's place I wouldn't also call him while there are attackers on the rise deserving the national duty more than him.  Smiley

One thing I have noticed with Southgate his the fact that he definitely has his favourites and it takes more than just playing time to get him to drop them. A clear example was how he stood behind Maguire last season when he had bad times and wasn’t playing and if you ask me Maguire always repairs him for that by putting solid performances for the club everytime he plays for England. Right now he has Luke Shaw in his provisional squad ahead of Chilwell and some other players. Yes Shaw has been out majorly for a long term but he hasn’t picked the player yet and even if he does I will say he has maybe assess him very well. We can use the long term absence to say he shouldn’t be there but there is no left back better than him in the league. When Chilwell played poorly In the last friendlies I was show Southgate Will begging to have Shaw back and right now he is looking at the possibility. If not he has the young mitchel in the squad too or better still uses Tripper there as a wing back in a back three formation.

I am not surprised that Sancho isn’t there though both him and Sterling have been in the bad books of Southgate long ago but aside that I don’t think Sancho has done anything extraordinary to be in ahead of those called up to except maybe Jack Grealish. The rest on that squad had a better season than him even statistically Rashford was better than him
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Talking about Spain their journey at the qualification stages is quite impressive because from 8 matches Spain can gets 7 wins with collect 21 points and these results too makes them can finish at first place on group table which automatically they can advances to the group stage of Euro 2024 and for the current tournament Spain as 4th favourite in this tournament behind England, France and Germany and for group stages Spain was into group B with Italy, Albania and Croatia indeed on the paper Italy probably the strongest opponent for Spain in that group but do not underestimate Croatia because they have potention to makes Spain gets in trouble

Spain squad for the current tournament is very interesting because at their squad there were several names such as Pau Cubarsí, Pedri, Fermín López and the latest is Lamine Yamal which we all know their status as young players besides that all of them is Barcelona players which mean Barcelona has important contribution for Spain squad for young players

I am sure this is their first major tournament with Spain and so far they can able to performing well with Barcelona and looking forward to see their performance in this tournament with Spain later but i am sure most people will paying their attention to Lamine Yamal because with his current age Lamine Yamal can being an important player for Barcelona and he also can joined Spain senior team which this is a fantastic achievement considering he is only 17 years old
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I don't also find Southgate's choices fully correct. Luke Shaw has been injured for months indeed. Why would you call him for national squad?  Huh

Jadon Sancho hasn't been called at the same time. I don't think he is performing as bad as the time he was at Manchester United. He has started improving at Dortmund but interestingly not being called.

I think he did okay with not calling Rashford. He had a terrible season. If I were in Southgate's place I wouldn't also call him while there are attackers on the rise deserving the national duty more than him.  Smiley

That's one of the call up I'm not quite cool with, like he has literally never played a game this season, why the call up when you can appoint or bring in other younger players? His decisions are baised as usual I've always known him fkr that,injope hebwin otherwise he'll be sacked.

The attacking call up for England is perfect, I'm not just okay with Jack Grealish because he has done nothing this season to earn that place in the squad heading for the Euro's.
Jadon Sancho doing well but those on the list are far better than him this very season. Phil Foden, Harry Kane, Jude Bellingham even Ivan Toney is a player who I think deserves a place ahead of Jadon Sancho.

Lol, Marcus Rashford even knows he has been crap so far this season. He should work on himself and hope to be in the up coming Fifa World Cup Competition.
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I don't also find Southgate's choices fully correct. Luke Shaw has been injured for months indeed. Why would you call him for national squad?  Huh

Jadon Sancho hasn't been called at the same time. I don't think he is performing as bad as the time he was at Manchester United. He has started improving at Dortmund but interestingly not being called.

I think he did okay with not calling Rashford. He had a terrible season. If I were in Southgate's place I wouldn't also call him while there are attackers on the rise deserving the national duty more than him.  Smiley
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Some people has disagree with the current England squad because there was no Rashford and Jordan Henderson on the lists besides that the conditions of Luke Shaw and Harry Maguire also still uncertain because these players are still hard struggling to recover from their injured but Gareth Southgate still decide to putting them into England squad besides that John Stones status in Manchester City as substutition player because Guardiola was rare to playing him regularly but Southgate made a surprise by calling up Crystal Palace player Adam Wharton to play at Euro 2024

Besides Adam Wharton i would like to see the performance other England young player in this tournament just like Kobbie Mainoo because the performance of Mainoo with Manchester United during this season is very impressive even yesterday he has been help Manchester United to beat their strong rival Manchester City at FA Cup final match however at the previous tournament England was failed to being an the champion because they lost at the final match from Italy but i was a bit wondering why they are as the first favourite for the current tournament

Marcus Rashford should not make it to the Euro's if I was there as manager. He was nothing but absolute shiiit this season, he should focus on recovery process and set a goal of scoring more goals that he did in the last two seasons all together. Jordan Henderson included, we saw him move to Saudi Arabia and it didn't go well for him. Retuning back and we never heard anything good still. Jude Bellingham and Kobbie Mainoo can do the job in his absence.

I don't put my trust in Gareth Southgate, they have the media and everything ( Pr ) included let's see what they can do to win it this time.

Luke Shaw didn't play no gake after his return from long term Injury, I don't know why he'll still make it up. Obviously favoritism and it'll affect his decision making.
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I think group stage will be very difficult for each team because they are quite competitive and focused. Maybe Germany has a chance to survive group stage this time because its group is not that strong and it has home advantage but Spain will be a huge challenge. They are playing a better ball also because of Tiki Taka. Sadly I did not get my hands on any tickets for the German matches.
Italy is also playing a good ball and France has Kylian M'Bappe so you know what that means.
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What is your opinion on Italy? I mentioned them before like they were one of the finalists in Euro 2020. Would you expect such progress from them again?  Huh

If you ask me, I don't.  Sad  Their latest success was a 3rd place in Nations League last year which doesn't matter much to most people. Even to Italians themselves I guess. They couldn't even qualify for the last World Cup. This was a huge disappointment for the fans. Their qualification performance for this Euro was also inconsistent. In some games it was contradicting the score. This is why I think there is even a chance for them to fail in Group B (Croatia, Spain, Albania).

I also don't expect great things from the Italian national team in this euro, mainly because they are in a group that has very strong teams like Spain and Croatia, fortunately Italy was lucky to have the first game against Albania, which is a very strong team. weak, which will mean that in the first game Italy will win and have 3 points while Spain will play against Croatia in a game in which if one of the teams loses it would put Italy in an advantageous position, I believe that Italy can At least get through the group stage with some luck, but I highly doubt Italy will be able to win the Euro




Spain release previsional squad for Euro 2024 by coach Luis de la Fuente!

Pedro Porro and Miguel Gutierrez have been left out.





source: https://www.instagram.com/p/C7d6YYwC_Dq/

The Spanish national team has many good players and when choosing players for the national team it probably becomes a big headache for the Spanish coach. Looking at the squad that will play in this Euro, I think that Spain can go far in this competition, it will all depend on how well they perform in the group stage when they play against good teams like Croatia and Italy, if they manage to do well in the group stage, so they may be able to go far in this competition
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I can't believe we are only 2 weeks away from Euro and the pressure is building up! Personally , I'm hyped for this one because my national team Romania made it and we finally have a decent team who could make it out of the group E and that would make an entire nation very happy.

First game doesn't look like a banger but Germany lately haven't shine at all so I do expect Scotland to score at least once against them but usually the opening team rarely lost on debut game.

You did really good in the qualification stage.  Smiley  Not losing any match and conceding only 5 goals are really positive things before the main tournament starts. Now in a group with Belgium, Slovakia and Ukraine, I believe your job won't be that easy. Belgium will be most likely to finish as the leader. I would expect Romania to play a close game against Slovakia too. But I think you have a higher chance to win against Ukraine.

I'm also wondering how things will go for Germany in the first match. They are coming with really talented young players. But I'm very curious about their consistency. I guess they would finish Group A as the leader firstly.  Smiley
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I can't believe we are only 2 weeks away from Euro and the pressure is building up! Personally , I'm hyped for this one because my national team Romania made it and we finally have a decent team who could make it out of the group E and that would make an entire nation very happy.

First game doesn't look like a banger but Germany lately haven't shine at all so I do expect Scotland to score at least once against them but usually the opening team rarely lost on debut game.
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England has a good squad, they have a lot of good players in the national team, but when they are playing, they do not appear to be a very dangerous national team, we saw this in the world cup, they were seen as one of the favorites, but during the games they did not They showed great things, which is why in my opinion England would hardly win that euro, probably teams like France, Germany, Portugal, Portugal or Spain would win the euro. I'm rooting for Portugal to win, unfortunately Portugal can no longer count on the performance that Ronaldo had when he was young, so it will be very difficult for them to win the Euro, but in these types of competitions, luck plays a very important role

It cannot be denied that for now England has a qualified squad where each line is filled with several great players and is the foundation of the club at this time.
Their midfield looks solid where there are some pretty good names like Foden, Jude and Rice which I think these players have good potential when looking at their performances at the club this season.

What I doubt at the moment is not in terms of the material of the players and the group that England currently has but indeed Southgate who still makes me doubt until now.
Southgate sometimes makes some adjustments and some decisions that I think sometimes it is detrimental to England so that indeed with this condition I honestly doubt his leadership style even though in terms of current players there is no need to doubt because England is filled with qualified players but with Southgate's presence as coach makes me a little less confident for this Euro for England.
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What is your opinion on Italy? I mentioned them before like they were one of the finalists in Euro 2020. Would you expect such progress from them again?  Huh

If you ask me, I don't.  Sad  Their latest success was a 3rd place in Nations League last year which doesn't matter much to most people. Even to Italians themselves I guess. They couldn't even qualify for the last World Cup. This was a huge disappointment for the fans. Their qualification performance for this Euro was also inconsistent. In some games it was contradicting the score. This is why I think there is even a chance for them to fail in Group B (Croatia, Spain, Albania).

Italy might not be at their best but there's at least a 60% chance that they might it to the knockout stages ahead of Croatia or even the group favorite, Spain. These days, there's little affinity for favorite teams because they might even be the first set of teams go get eliminated from the competition just like in the world cup back in 2022. But of course, there's no way to say for sure until the tournament starts and results start getting it. Still 2 weeks to competition. Fingers crossed.
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What is your opinion on Italy? I mentioned them before like they were one of the finalists in Euro 2020. Would you expect such progress from them again?  Huh

If you ask me, I don't.  Sad  Their latest success was a 3rd place in Nations League last year which doesn't matter much to most people. Even to Italians themselves I guess. They couldn't even qualify for the last World Cup. This was a huge disappointment for the fans. Their qualification performance for this Euro was also inconsistent. In some games it was contradicting the score. This is why I think there is even a chance for them to fail in Group B (Croatia, Spain, Albania).
I am not a fan of Italy on international football - national team. I'm an England supporter. I still really remember the 2020 Euro final how Italy beat my support team in the final round.

If asked what about the Italian national team, I don't think I know much about their development. But if you look at the players, they cannot be considered bad this time even though they failed to play in the 2022 World Cup.
Maybe they can perform unexpectedly at this Euro, but Croatia and Spain are strong teams.
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What is your opinion on Italy? I mentioned them before like they were one of the finalists in Euro 2020. Would you expect such progress from them again?  Huh

If you ask me, I don't.  Sad  Their latest success was a 3rd place in Nations League last year which doesn't matter much to most people. Even to Italians themselves I guess. They couldn't even qualify for the last World Cup. This was a huge disappointment for the fans. Their qualification performance for this Euro was also inconsistent. In some games it was contradicting the score. This is why I think there is even a chance for them to fail in Group B (Croatia, Spain, Albania).
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Some people has disagree with the current England squad because there was no Rashford and Jordan Henderson on the lists besides that the conditions of Luke Shaw and Harry Maguire also still uncertain because these players are still hard struggling to recover from their injured but Gareth Southgate still decide to putting them into England squad besides that John Stones status in Manchester City as substutition player because Guardiola was rare to playing him regularly but Southgate made a surprise by calling up Crystal Palace player Adam Wharton to play at Euro 2024

Besides Adam Wharton i would like to see the performance other England young player in this tournament just like Kobbie Mainoo because the performance of Mainoo with Manchester United during this season is very impressive even yesterday he has been help Manchester United to beat their strong rival Manchester City at FA Cup final match however at the previous tournament England was failed to being an the champion because they lost at the final match from Italy but i was a bit wondering why they are as the first favourite for the current tournament
Honestly young players will have time to play for the next ones, Mainoo for example can play for at least another 3-4 euro competitions when he grows older, this isn't a place to just show yourself and gain attention, you just call up only the best players and that is what they did.

The selection questions could be a little complicated I understand that and we could talk about something different in the end, I am not saying that we are going to end up with something bigger or different, but that doesn't mean that we are going to end up with a greater of value type of thing. The best thing to do in this case would be just focusing on England having a good 11, who is the backup doesn't really matter and won't be a big deal because last names won't get that much attention.
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What time? Time to do what? You think it's one easy task there? And even i it's, they cannot win it with Gareth Southgate. He doesn't have the capacity to lead them to glory, although ,I will love to see him prove me wrong.

Could you please show me where I talked about it like "easy task"?  Grin  Nobody can talk about it like it is an easy task for neither England nor the rest of the teams. It is a Euro tournament, not a waste of time Nations League organization.  Tongue  By saying "maybe this is their time", I meant maybe they would finally win the first ever Euro title in their history.  Smiley

You know, England got very close to the title in Euro 2020 but they lost to Italy in the final. It isn't a mission impossible. But if Southgate fails to win a title once again then I think it is time for him to leave because of having nothing in hand after all these years.
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Some people has disagree with the current England squad because there was no Rashford and Jordan Henderson on the lists besides that the conditions of Luke Shaw and Harry Maguire also still uncertain because these players are still hard struggling to recover from their injured but Gareth Southgate still decide to putting them into England squad besides that John Stones status in Manchester City as substutition player because Guardiola was rare to playing him regularly but Southgate made a surprise by calling up Crystal Palace player Adam Wharton to play at Euro 2024

Besides Adam Wharton i would like to see the performance other England young player in this tournament just like Kobbie Mainoo because the performance of Mainoo with Manchester United during this season is very impressive even yesterday he has been help Manchester United to beat their strong rival Manchester City at FA Cup final match however at the previous tournament England was failed to being an the champion because they lost at the final match from Italy but i was a bit wondering why they are as the first favourite for the current tournament
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England will have quite easier parcours especially in the group stage and will not lose a lot of energy comparing to France which has Netherlands and Poland to face. Even group B is complicated with Spain and Italy along with Croatia in it. The risk of being eliminated since this stage might be taken on consideration for the odds. Otherwise I don't find England as better than France or Spain personally.
England is actually in a tougher group. In Group C, they need to face Serbia, Denmark and Slovenia. All three are strong teams and Serbia is in top form right now. On the other hand, in Group D, France has Netherlands, Poland and Austria as the opponents. I don't think that they will be too bothered during group phase. Especially with Netherlands, who are on the decline for some time.
I mean come on man... You can't say that France has easier group with Netherlands and Poland, while Spain and Italy and Croatia also in a group, while England's biggest rival in the group is serbia... That's not even a group for them, they are going to end up destroying that group and get three wins easily. Obviously there could always be shocks, like Argentina won the world cup and yet they lost to Saudi Arabia, it was unexpected and it was definitely not something we seen coming, but it still happened.

But in the end, England has a much easier group and I do not think that we could think that we are going to end up with them not going to win the whole thing, go out of groups easily, but fail somewhere along the lines eventually.
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