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Quote from: Unsoldier on October 11, 2023, 07:49:37 AM

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I think Spain will win. Scotland's skill level is pretty high. But the Red Fury are higher in class.

agree here
Scotland had a great start in qualifications, and already secured their spot on main competition, IMO
Spain has a pressure to win this, especially after losing first match in Scotland, and they should be able to do that

nevertheless, it should be a low scoring encounter, and that is maybe better option than ML on Spain

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Quote from: ingiltere on October 10, 2023, 12:13:53 PM

Croatia vs Türkiye in 2 days time could be the match that will decide who will be the leader of Group D. If Croatia wins this match, they will most probably finish as the group leader. If Türkiye wins, the competition can continue until the last match.
Historically, Türkiye cannot beat Croatia. In the last ten matches, only Türkiye won the match played in Eskişehir in 2017. Other than that, the matches either ended in a draw or Croatia won. This match will also be very difficult for Türkiye.
Montella has just taken over the team and this will be his first game. That's why we don't know what kind of game he will play. Therefore, we can say it's a match open to surprises. But Croatia is of course the natural favorite. A draw would be a good result for Türkiye but I expect them to play for the win.

What is specific for this match is the large number of injuries on both sides, so the following players will not play for Croatia : Ivan Perisic, Luka Ivanusec, Mislav Orsic, Bruno Petkovic, Andrej Kramaric and Marko Livaja, who no longer wants to play for the national team. Some new players have been called up as substitutes, and the question is whether they will take advantage of their opportunity.

According to the information I found for Türkiye, some very important players will also not play : Caglar Söyüncü, Arda Güler, Cengiz Ünder, Enes Ünal, Mert Günok.

Croatia is the favorite because it plays on home ground, and it should be noted that the match is played in Osijek at the Opus Arena, which is a new stadium and currently one of the most beautiful in Croatia. Tickets for the match sold out in just 8 minutes, and the support will be fantastic.

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Quote from: Despairo on October 10, 2023, 11:34:59 PM

I think Spain vs Scotland must be watched because Scotland could give a surprise as long as McTominay is playing, he even can make a surprise in Manchester United by playing for 10 minutes and scored 2 goals. The odds for Scotland to win is very high too, I will take a risk to bet Scotland despite Spain get a fantastic result in the last two matches.

Spain could find it difficult to hope for more if they cannot win this match because Norway at the same time will face Cyprus, which incidentally is easy to beat. I think Spain has to work hard when facing Scotland by taking advantage of the match that will take place in Sevilla.

Scotland is a little safe because they have collected 15 points from 5 games. Regarding their points tally, I don't think it will matter whether McTominay is played by Steve Clarke or not, even though McTominay is an important player for the team.
Spain's points tally will be 12 if they win and will give them a little peace of mind from Group A competition.

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Quote from: Despairo on October 10, 2023, 11:34:59 PM

I think Spain vs Scotland must be watched because Scotland could give a surprise as long as McTominay is playing, he even can make a surprise in Manchester United by playing for 10 minutes and scored 2 goals. The odds for Scotland to win is very high too, I will take a risk to bet Scotland despite Spain get a fantastic result in the last two matches.

The match between Norway vs Cyprus and Portugal vs Slovakia looks like a sure win for Norway and Portugal.

I'm sure it will be a very interesting match because Scotland have not lost a single game in the group stage and are in first place... But I would not bet on their win, because they will probably lose in Spain and it will be their first defeat, although maybe the game will end in a draw...

Yes, Spain will act as host, of course this is an advantage. This meeting will be a place for Spain to take revenge against Scotland after losing last March, but with the last two wins, Spain seems to have stabilized and is back on a positive path. However, Scotland's strength cannot be taken lightly, they have quite good squad depth, which is why they lead group A.

I agree with you @3meek, despite the fact that Scotland has not been defeated so far, I feel that betting on Scotland winning this time would be very risky. I feel the match will end in a draw, that's fair enough.

I think Spain will win. Scotland's skill level is pretty high. But the Red Fury are higher in class. The teams have about 3 matches left to play in qualification. And Spain need to think about how they will get out of the group. Scotland has 15 points and is in first place in their group, so a defeat will not be a tragedy for them, but they will not give up without a fight. I expect Spain to win, and both teams will score.

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Looks interested upcoming match UEFA Euro Qualifiers between Spain vs Scotland, Spain have win in this match because they want make points close with Scotland on current standing Group remaining 6 points left. On other side, Norway as potential national team warning due two points left and bad thing if Spain loss points with their position not secure for playing in UEFA EURO 2024 in Germany. All possibilities with Group A happening with some national team have three matches left, but Scotland seems comfortable on their first standings position remaining 8 points left from Norway with two teams each group stage will automatically qualify to EURO 2024. For Group A seems Scotland have one leg their position in final round and waiting potential national teams between Spain or Norway will be partner for Scotland team.

Standings teams in Group A UEFA EURO Qualifier

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Quote from: 3meek on October 11, 2023, 02:01:06 AM

Quote from: Despairo on October 10, 2023, 11:34:59 PM

I think Spain vs Scotland must be watched because Scotland could give a surprise as long as McTominay is playing, he even can make a surprise in Manchester United by playing for 10 minutes and scored 2 goals. The odds for Scotland to win is very high too, I will take a risk to bet Scotland despite Spain get a fantastic result in the last two matches.

The match between Norway vs Cyprus and Portugal vs Slovakia looks like a sure win for Norway and Portugal.

I'm sure it will be a very interesting match because Scotland have not lost a single game in the group stage and are in first place... But I would not bet on their win, because they will probably lose in Spain and it will be their first defeat, although maybe the game will end in a draw...

Yes, Spain will act as host, of course this is an advantage. This meeting will be a place for Spain to take revenge against Scotland after losing last March, but with the last two wins, Spain seems to have stabilized and is back on a positive path. However, Scotland's strength cannot be taken lightly, they have quite good squad depth, which is why they lead group A.

I agree with you @3meek, despite the fact that Scotland has not been defeated so far, I feel that betting on Scotland winning this time would be very risky. I feel the match will end in a draw, that's fair enough.

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Quote from: 3meek on October 11, 2023, 02:01:06 AM

Quote from: Despairo on October 10, 2023, 11:34:59 PM

I think Spain vs Scotland must be watched because Scotland could give a surprise as long as McTominay is playing, he even can make a surprise in Manchester United by playing for 10 minutes and scored 2 goals. The odds for Scotland to win is very high too, I will take a risk to bet Scotland despite Spain get a fantastic result in the last two matches.

I'm sure it will be a very interesting match because Scotland have not lost a single game in the group stage and are in first place... But I would not bet on their win, because they will probably lose in Spain and it will be their first defeat, although maybe the game will end in a draw...

It's interesting for Scotland with 5 wins and only 1 goal conceded, how can it not be interesting that Scotland looks like a big team that controls the game. Lol
Betting is too risky with the odds so far apart, what I see now @11 for Scotland and @1.25 for Spain while the draw odds @5.20 is not brave enough unless you choose Spain because the win ratio is obviously much greater.
But the interesting thing is that Scotland could surprise win again for the 6xth time, it could happen. Cheesy

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Quote from: Despairo on October 10, 2023, 11:34:59 PM

I think Spain vs Scotland must be watched because Scotland could give a surprise as long as McTominay is playing, he even can make a surprise in Manchester United by playing for 10 minutes and scored 2 goals. The odds for Scotland to win is very high too, I will take a risk to bet Scotland despite Spain get a fantastic result in the last two matches.

The match between Norway vs Cyprus and Portugal vs Slovakia looks like a sure win for Norway and Portugal.

I'm sure it will be a very interesting match because Scotland have not lost a single game in the group stage and are in first place... But I would not bet on their win, because they will probably lose in Spain and it will be their first defeat, although maybe the game will end in a draw...

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Quote from: Phoenix Anka on October 10, 2023, 11:45:46 AM

Norway and Wales have players of average quality, apart from a few talented players, but I think we remember how well Wales has achieved in recent tournaments. Even though Norway may not be completely successful, I think they can achieve this in future tournaments.

The problem with teams like Norway, Wales is that they don't have good performing players in every position. They may have world famous players in some positions but other positions are very weak for them which will hinder them from doing well in these big tournaments.
The main problem with players like Sadio Mané, Mohamed Salah, Erling Haaland, Cristiano Ronaldo is that they are single good players and other players in their team don't play very well in their positions due to which these players, despite their talent, cannot perform well in major tournaments. Although the individual achievements of these stars are many but there is no team achievement.
Cristiano Ronaldo's side have only won the Euros once which is a lot to expect from a player like him.

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I think Spain vs Scotland must be watched because Scotland could give a surprise as long as McTominay is playing, he even can make a surprise in Manchester United by playing for 10 minutes and scored 2 goals. The odds for Scotland to win is very high too, I will take a risk to bet Scotland despite Spain get a fantastic result in the last two matches.

The match between Norway vs Cyprus and Portugal vs Slovakia looks like a sure win for Norway and Portugal.

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Quote from: ingiltere on October 10, 2023, 12:13:53 PM

Croatia vs Türkiye in 2 days time could be the match that will decide who will be the leader of Group D. If Croatia wins this match, they will most probably finish as the group leader. If Türkiye wins, the competition can continue until the last match.
Historically, Türkiye cannot beat Croatia. In the last ten matches, only Türkiye won the match played in Eskişehir in 2017. Other than that, the matches either ended in a draw or Croatia won. This match will also be very difficult for Türkiye.
Montella has just taken over the team and this will be his first game. That's why we don't know what kind of game he will play. Therefore, we can say it's a match open to surprises. But Croatia is of course the natural favorite. A draw would be a good result for Türkiye but I expect them to play for the win.

While a draw and victory will benefit Croatia, Turkey definitely needs a win. They must get 3 points in the Croatia match to finish the group as leaders or to guarantee second place, but this is very difficult. They lost to Croatia in the match in Turkey, and they will probably lose in the away match as well. With the draw with Armenia, they made second place in the group risky. I hope we, as Turkey, will perform better with Montella.

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Quote from: Spack17 on October 10, 2023, 05:34:24 PM

Spain - Scotland match looks like it can be really delightful to watch. Because Scotland have been the biggest surprise in Group A so far. They have won all of the 5 matches they played. They defeated even Spain by 2-0 home. But we still see bookmakers seeing this match like it will be very comfortable for Spain.

The odds given to Spain are like a joke now - 1.23. Grin

Besides there are some missing players for Spain side as well. Asensio, Gaya, Olmo, Pedri, Pino and Yamal aren't expected to play due to injuries. Gavi has also had an injury but he might be able to play.

I also think Spain will win this match but I'm not sure if it would be that much comfortable. I think Morata will score as well because he is in great shape recently.

I can see the odds has slightly to increases now @1.25 for Spain and the bookmakers give odds @11 for Scotland and this is really high odds especially after in the first met Scotland can able to beat Spain with scores 2-0 at their home and indeed after beat Cyprus and Georgia with big scores seems Spain can able to bounce back because 13 goals from 2 latest matches was very fantastic statistics from Spain and most of people are confident Spain this time will be able to beat Scotland so that's why the bookmakers provide low odds for them and i can see all of Scotland key players will be available today including Mctominay and Spain have to be careful to this player because during qualification matches he was Scotland top scorer with 6 goals so obviously he was onfire especially in his last appearance with Manchester United he was able to score 2 goals and bringing Manchester United to gets the winning result from Brentford

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Quote from: Phoenix Anka on October 10, 2023, 11:45:46 AM

Norway and Wales have players of average quality, apart from a few talented players, but I think we remember how well Wales has achieved in recent tournaments. Even though Norway may not be completely successful, I think they can achieve this in future tournaments.

I would still consider Wales as one-man army led by Gareth Bale. But that doesn't matter anymore, as he retired immediately after the 2022 FIFA World Cup in Qatar. I don't have any hope with Wales now. They do have some good players like Kieffer Moore and Daniel James, but these players are nowhere near Bale in terms of skills. Some of the young players are coming up, such as Brennan Johnson (Tottenham Hotspur). But I don't know whether they will ever get a player who can be matched with Bale in terms of quality.

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Quote from: Spack17 on October 10, 2023, 05:34:24 PM

Spain - Scotland match looks like it can be really delightful to watch. Because Scotland have been the biggest surprise in Group A so far. They have won all of the 5 matches they played. They defeated even Spain by 2-0 home. But we still see bookmakers seeing this match like it will be very comfortable for Spain.

The odds given to Spain are like a joke now - 1.23. Grin

Besides there are some missing players for Spain side as well. Asensio, Gaya, Olmo, Pedri, Pino and Yamal aren't expected to play due to injuries. Gavi has also had an injury but he might be able to play.

I also think Spain will win this match but I'm not sure if it would be that much comfortable. I think Morata will score as well because he is in great shape recently.

Spain is better than Scotland although the performance shown in the past and the previous result. Now there is injuries that might play a role in that game but even the actual squad of Barcelona could win that game.
Scotland need a draw in this game at least so I assume they will be more defensive and counting on counterattacks. Spain will have bad moments trying to pick 3 points from them.

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Spain - Scotland match looks like it can be really delightful to watch. Because Scotland have been the biggest surprise in Group A so far. They have won all of the 5 matches they played. They defeated even Spain by 2-0 home. But we still see bookmakers seeing this match like it will be very comfortable for Spain.

The odds given to Spain are like a joke now - 1.23. Grin

Besides there are some missing players for Spain side as well. Asensio, Gaya, Olmo, Pedri, Pino and Yamal aren't expected to play due to injuries. Gavi has also had an injury but he might be able to play.

I also think Spain will win this match but I'm not sure if it would be that much comfortable. I think Morata will score as well because he is in great shape recently.

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Quote from: Gencecikmen on October 10, 2023, 01:03:54 PM

The European Qualifiers for UEFA EURO 2024 run from October 12-17 2023, with the the 7th and 8th legs of the Group Stage. The favorite in group D is Croatia. Türkiye, Armenia and Wales are sturggling for second place. Thursday's Croatia-Turkey match is a very important match for Group D. Turkey dismissed its coach because he had a poor performance and signed with the new coach. And this will be his first match.

That's what I was saying. Kuntz thought he was successful but he wasn't really. We had weak opponents and results were normal. Against big opponents he didn't do anything. His squad choice was also poor. He didn't include some players who should've been in the team. He selected some players who weren't playing in their own team to the national team and gave them match time. When such injustices occur in the national team, resentment occurs among good players. Some players aren't called to the national team just because they don't play in big teams. This has to end now.

We can't judge Montella over Croatia game alone either. He didn't have enough time to put his perspective to the team. He has to work with players at least on two camp days to execute his tactical plan. We will probably play with similar old tactics in the Croatia match. First of all, the main plan will be to keep the score at 0-0 with controlled play and good defense and to seek goals with counter attacks whenever possible. If an early goal comes, things could change. Both sides will start with a balanced game. After all, this will perhaps be the most important match of the group.

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On Thursday we will pick up where we left off and Turkey will travel to Croatia. This is obviously an important battle between the two teams for the top spot in the group. Turkey may have lost at home in the first game but this is not a disadvantage. Although Croatia seems to be the favorite, there has been a coaching change in Turkey. Stefan Kuntz will no longer be in charge so I think we can at least play a little bit better and show some resistance. Montella, who had a good season at Adana Demirspor, has been brought in and I think it was a good decision because at least he is a coach who is used to Turkey and who has impressed with his performance in the league.

I would like to see Turkey stealing one point at least. Stefan Kuntz's getting sacked was the right thing to do in my opinion. He was really bad with his choices and there wasn't just any team spirit at all. I would have liked to see Turkey bringing a Turkish coach instead. But I hope that Vincenzo Montella can make a good start with the team. He has many Turkish assistants now if I'm not wrong. I hope they can be helpful for him to make the right choices and not to make the same mistakes again.

If Turkey can't qualify for Euro 2024 then I wouldn't be surprised if Vincenzo Montella also gets sacked. Grin

In that case I assume the next candidate would be a Turkish coach finally.

Any points from this away trip are very important. It's difficult but not impossible, I must emphasize. Stefan Kuntz didn't add anything to the team, on the contrary, he made it worse. We had already said that this change should have been made earlier, but the management decided to continue. Now we look back and see that it was an unnecessary continuation. There is no point in being so persistent. When it was obvious that he couldn't manage the team and didn't add anything to the national team, maybe they should have parted ways 5-6 matches ago. Of course, it is advantageous for the national team to have a Turkish coach, but we have seen recently that the success of local coaches is not at the old level. That's why I think Montella was chosen. I expect him to benefit the team and make the national team play better football.

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Quote from: Jossque on October 10, 2023, 01:30:02 PM

On Thursday we will pick up where we left off and Turkey will travel to Croatia. This is obviously an important battle between the two teams for the top spot in the group. Turkey may have lost at home in the first game but this is not a disadvantage. Although Croatia seems to be the favorite, there has been a coaching change in Turkey. Stefan Kuntz will no longer be in charge so I think we can at least play a little bit better and show some resistance. Montella, who had a good season at Adana Demirspor, has been brought in and I think it was a good decision because at least he is a coach who is used to Turkey and who has impressed with his performance in the league.

I would like to see Turkey stealing one point at least. Stefan Kuntz's getting sacked was the right thing to do in my opinion. He was really bad with his choices and there wasn't just any team spirit at all. I would have liked to see Turkey bringing a Turkish coach instead. But I hope that Vincenzo Montella can make a good start with the team. He has many Turkish assistants now if I'm not wrong. I hope they can be helpful for him to make the right choices and not to make the same mistakes again.

If Turkey can't qualify for Euro 2024 then I wouldn't be surprised if Vincenzo Montella also gets sacked. Grin

In that case I assume the next candidate would be a Turkish coach finally.

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On Thursday we will pick up where we left off and Turkey will travel to Croatia. This is obviously an important battle between the two teams for the top spot in the group. Turkey may have lost at home in the first game but this is not a disadvantage. Although Croatia seems to be the favorite, there has been a coaching change in Turkey. Stefan Kuntz will no longer be in charge so I think we can at least play a little bit better and show some resistance. Montella, who had a good season at Adana Demirspor, has been brought in and I think it was a good decision because at least he is a coach who is used to Turkey and who has impressed with his performance in the league.

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Quote from: ingiltere on October 10, 2023, 12:13:53 PM

Croatia vs Türkiye in 2 days time could be the match that will decide who will be the leader of Group D. If Croatia wins this match, they will most probably finish as the group leader. If Türkiye wins, the competition can continue until the last match.
Historically, Türkiye cannot beat Croatia. In the last ten matches, only Türkiye won the match played in Eskişehir in 2017. Other than that, the matches either ended in a draw or Croatia won. This match will also be very difficult for Türkiye.
Montella has just taken over the team and this will be his first game. That's why we don't know what kind of game he will play. Therefore, we can say it's a match open to surprises. But Croatia is of course the natural favorite. A draw would be a good result for Türkiye but I expect them to play for the win.

The European Qualifiers for UEFA EURO 2024 run from October 12-17 2023, with the the 7th and 8th legs of the Group Stage. The favorite in group D is Croatia. Türkiye, Armenia and Wales are sturggling for second place. Thursday's Croatia-Turkey match is a very important match for Group D. Turkey dismissed its coach because he had a poor performance and signed with the new coach. And this will be his first match.

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