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Croatia vs Türkiye in 2 days time could be the match that will decide who will be the leader of Group D. If Croatia wins this match, they will most probably finish as the group leader. If Türkiye wins, the competition can continue until the last match.
Historically, Türkiye cannot beat Croatia. In the last ten matches, only Türkiye won the match played in Eskişehir in 2017. Other than that, the matches either ended in a draw or Croatia won. This match will also be very difficult for Türkiye.
Montella has just taken over the team and this will be his first game. That's why we don't know what kind of game he will play. Therefore, we can say it's a match open to surprises. But Croatia is of course the natural favorite. A draw would be a good result for Türkiye but I expect them to play for the win.
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They behave like one-man armies because they have no other choice but to give the ball to Bale or Ronaldo and hope for them to score. They do it because at times it is their best bet. But your statement suggests that this strategy is superior to something else and this is problematic. Because if Wales had didn't only have one Bale, but five Bales, the team would be tremendously stronger using all five Bales instead of the one real Bale.

These one-man shows can work but with every next round they can get to, the air gets thinner and thinner because those teams have five or six or seven or even eleven top players and that's when the one-man show usually ends.

Well.. I said that such teams can be effective at times. I am not claiming that they are better than well balanced teams such as Argentina or France. Obviously Wales with a few quality players apart from Bale and Norway with a few good players other than Erling Håland/Martin Ødegaard would be more consistent. But again, at times one-man armies can surprise more balanced teams. Also, I would rather agree with the last line of your post. As the competition moves to knockout phase, it gets progressively more difficult for these teams.

Norway and Wales have players of average quality, apart from a few talented players, but I think we remember how well Wales has achieved in recent tournaments. Even though Norway may not be completely successful, I think they can achieve this in future tournaments.
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They behave like one-man armies because they have no other choice but to give the ball to Bale or Ronaldo and hope for them to score. They do it because at times it is their best bet. But your statement suggests that this strategy is superior to something else and this is problematic. Because if Wales had didn't only have one Bale, but five Bales, the team would be tremendously stronger using all five Bales instead of the one real Bale.

These one-man shows can work but with every next round they can get to, the air gets thinner and thinner because those teams have five or six or seven or even eleven top players and that's when the one-man show usually ends.
Well.. I said that such teams can be effective at times. I am not claiming that they are better than well balanced teams such as Argentina or France. Obviously Wales with a few quality players apart from Bale and Norway with a few good players other than Erling Håland/Martin Ødegaard would be more consistent. But again, at times one-man armies can surprise more balanced teams. Also, I would rather agree with the last line of your post. As the competition moves to knockout phase, it gets progressively more difficult for these teams.
Sometimes those type of teams could do wonders but usually you do not expect much from them on the long run, it could happen and there is nothing that says they can't go to Euro neither, they could go there but nobody really expects anything from them there neither. If they can go, then they will probably not be all that good, and they will lose eventually there, if they can't go then at least they will rest a bit more.

The fact that they are going to spend this summer playing again means a lot more injury proneness when the season starts, these players needs to rest a bit to relax their body and recover from a whole season long playing. It should be the most important thing for them otherwise they are going to hurt themselves. I believe that Norway not going to Europe cup would be something they could benefit from, not the team in general and the nation would probably not care all that much but the players will benefit from it like crazy for sure.
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In 2 days we will have the qualifying games for the euro, and some of the big national teams already have it easy and will only be playing to stay at the top of their groups, as is the case with Scotland, France and Portugal. These 3 national teams do not have any major difficulties in qualifying and finishing at the top of their groups, but in the case of other large teams such as Belgium, Croatia, England, Italy, France, Holland, Spain... their situation is delicate, and even becomes more delicate in certain cases involving some of these teams, . For example, in group A, Spain, despite having 1 game to play, still only has 9 points and has to worry about Norway, which has 7 points, that is, if Spain loses in some games and Norway doesn't waste opportunities and win, then Spain will not qualify.

In group B we find a more difficult scenario involving the Netherlands who have 9 points and are in second place, and in third place they also have Greece with 9 points, the Netherlands have an advantage because they have 1 game to spare, but 2 defeats and 1 Greece's victory would make the risk of the Netherlands not qualifying a high risk, in group c we have an equal situation in which Italy has 7 points and is in second place, with 1 game remaining, but in third place they have Ukraine also has 7 points, so if Italy loses in the next games and Ukraine knows how to take advantage of any opportunity they have and wins, then Italy will not qualify and Ukraine will qualify.

In other groups there are situations similar to the ones I described, but these are cases of teams that are not very big, that's why I didn't talk about them, something that I keep asking myself: if Germany hadn't been the host, would they have been able to qualify?  Grin
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They behave like one-man armies because they have no other choice but to give the ball to Bale or Ronaldo and hope for them to score. They do it because at times it is their best bet. But your statement suggests that this strategy is superior to something else and this is problematic. Because if Wales had didn't only have one Bale, but five Bales, the team would be tremendously stronger using all five Bales instead of the one real Bale.

These one-man shows can work but with every next round they can get to, the air gets thinner and thinner because those teams have five or six or seven or even eleven top players and that's when the one-man show usually ends.

Well.. I said that such teams can be effective at times. I am not claiming that they are better than well balanced teams such as Argentina or France. Obviously Wales with a few quality players apart from Bale and Norway with a few good players other than Erling Håland/Martin Ødegaard would be more consistent. But again, at times one-man armies can surprise more balanced teams. Also, I would rather agree with the last line of your post. As the competition moves to knockout phase, it gets progressively more difficult for these teams.
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Haaland is a very important player for Norway, but football is not a game played with just one person. All 11 players need to be important and play well. In basketball, sometimes one player can turn the match around on his own, but it is impossible to see this in football. It will require efforts from other teammates as well as Haaland. There is no other chance for Norway.

Teams who behave like one-man army can be very effective at times. We have seen examples multiple times in the past. Cristiano Ronaldo - Portugal, Goran Pandeev - North Macedonia, Gareth Bale - Wales and Mohammad Salah - Egypt are recent examples. And in case of Norway, they do have some young players who can support Håland, such as Martin Ødegaard. The issue with Norway doesn't lie in being a one-man army. Rather than that, their real issue is in having a very weak defense and poor team bonding.

But that statement without context isn't helpful.

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Teams who behave like one-man army can be very effective at times.

They behave like one-man armies because they have no other choice but to give the ball to Bale or Ronaldo and hope for them to score. They do it because at times it is their best bet. But your statement suggests that this strategy is superior to something else and this is problematic. Because if Wales had didn't only have one Bale, but five Bales, the team would be tremendously stronger using all five Bales instead of the one real Bale.

These one-man shows can work but with every next round they can get to, the air gets thinner and thinner because those teams have five or six or seven or even eleven top players and that's when the one-man show usually ends.
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Haaland is a very important player for Norway, but football is not a game played with just one person. All 11 players need to be important and play well. In basketball, sometimes one player can turn the match around on his own, but it is impossible to see this in football. It will require efforts from other teammates as well as Haaland. There is no other chance for Norway.

Teams who behave like one-man army can be very effective at times. We have seen examples multiple times in the past. Cristiano Ronaldo - Portugal, Goran Pandeev - North Macedonia, Gareth Bale - Wales and Mohammad Salah - Egypt are recent examples. And in case of Norway, they do have some young players who can support Håland, such as Martin Ødegaard. The issue with Norway doesn't lie in being a one-man army. Rather than that, their real issue is in having a very weak defense and poor team bonding.
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I wish Haaland had a different nationality.  Grin  I mean I would have liked to watch him playing for a strong national team which is a title contender in big tournaments. Norway is far from that level I'm afraid. They don't have many qualified players in their squad. If they have a golden generation in the future then maybe things would change.

Have you not seen a scenario where some individual talented players carried their country on their shoulders in a given competition such as the World or Nation Cup competition, even though that country is not among the top 10 or top 20 best countries in terms of football rating, these are things you do as an individual player that classifies you as an extraordinary player even though football is about teamwork, Haaland can do it for his country as the current goal-scoring machine we have now.
Haaland is a very important player for Norway, but football is not a game played with just one person. All 11 players need to be important and play well. In basketball, sometimes one player can turn the match around on his own, but it is impossible to see this in football. It will require efforts from other teammates as well as Haaland. There is no other chance for Norway.
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We are on the last week with league games before the national break. There are going to be Euro 2024 qualifier games between October 12 and October 17.

When I look at the games we have in this time period firstly I see a Croatia - Turkey game there which could be interesting. Turkey have had serious level of drop in their effort level recently. This caused their manager Stefan Kuntz to get sacked also. Vincenzo Montella is their new manager but I'm not satisfied with this replacement. Because I would have expected to see a Turkish manager to see a better effect on the team. I hope that I become wrong about this.

Our job is going to be really difficult against Croatia. Croatia have been given @1.69 odds to win the game. I feel like we will lose here so Croatia can be given a chance to bet on.
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the ticket sales for the uefa euro 2024 started today and uefa is awarding the first more than 1.2 million tickets for the euro in germany on the EURO2024.com website. this first sales phase ends on october 26. you can apply for a maximum of four tickets per person.

1.2 millions tickets seems like a lot when you read the number , but when you start to analize the dimension of the tournament and start to divide the 1.2 ammount of tickets with the ammount of games, and stadium, and you know think they a few.

Yeah.. 24 participating nations, and 4-team groups mean a lot many matches. I don't know abut the total number of matches, but I expect them to be in the vicinity of 60-70. Given this, the first batch represents around 20,000 tickets per match. Given the capacity of stadiums in Germany, this is a small fraction of available tickets. Olympiastadion Berlin alone has a capacity of 74,461. Munich Football Arena also has a similar capacity, and I don't believe that any of the stadiums that host this tournament has a capacity of less than 40,000.

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the ticket sales for the uefa euro 2024 started today and uefa is awarding the first more than 1.2 million tickets for the euro in germany on the EURO2024.com website. this first sales phase ends on october 26. you can apply for a maximum of four tickets per person.

1.2 millions tickets seems like a lot when you read the number , but when you start to analize the dimension of the tournament and start to divide the 1.2 ammount of tickets with the ammount of games, and stadium, and you know think they a few.
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the ticket sales for the uefa euro 2024 started today and uefa is awarding the first more than 1.2 million tickets for the euro in germany on the EURO2024.com website. this first sales phase ends on october 26. you can apply for a maximum of four tickets per person.
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Yes that makes perfect sense. I have also said before that it will be difficult for a superstar to carry the national team alone. But I hope that in the Haaland era, Norway will have several players who can support Haaland. A superstar will indeed have a big impact on the national team, but support from 10 other players is also needed. Winning a big tournament as a national team will be quite difficult if you don't have teammates who can provide support. This is the same as what Gareth Bale experienced when he was in his prime.

It is not Håland plus 10 ordinary players. At this point, they have one more quality player in addition to Håland. So it is more like Håland + Ødegaard + 9 ordinary players. They have some younger players coming up, but I am not sure whether they are of the same quality as Håland/Ødegaard. Jørgen Larsen is 23 -years old (same as Håland) and has performed well for Celta Vigo. Then they have Leo Østigård, who plays for Napoli. Once again, he is also 23-years old. But only time will tell whether any of these players will rise to the same level as that of Håland/Ødegaard.
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There's no way the brilliance of just one player in a team will help the entire team to win a major tournament without very vital contributions from his teammates and that's I don't believe in that folklore of a player single-handedly winning a major honour. Without doubt, a player may be more influential in the performance of his team but can't just be the sole reason why his team wins tournament.
Haaland has been heavily criticized by many who thinks he's not replicating his goalscoring heroics at the club level for his country. Haaland exploits at club level I think is strongly helped by the kind of teammates that helps bring out the best in him and that is what he lacks in the Norwegian national team. Though he's been managing to score plenty of goals for Norway, winning a major tournament with the team will be very difficult for him

Yes that makes perfect sense. I have also said before that it will be difficult for a superstar to carry the national team alone. But I hope that in the Haaland era, Norway will have several players who can support Haaland. A superstar will indeed have a big impact on the national team, but support from 10 other players is also needed. Winning a big tournament as a national team will be quite difficult if you don't have teammates who can provide support. This is the same as what Gareth Bale experienced when he was in his prime.
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The problem is that when you score 25 goals in nearly 25 games, everyone starts to expect you to keep scoring like that.

In the end, when he dropped to realistic levels, people started to question his abilities. This is why he looks like he is not pulling his weight when he plays there anymore.
Well that's their problem, not Haaland's, or even Norway team. In the first 5 matches of Euro qualifiers he scored 4 goals in 5 games so I don't think its bad at all. There's only so much that he can do, and their group is tough as well so until Norway manages to get into 2nd pot, they will have issues reaching big tournaments as qualifications in Europe are tough.
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Haaland cannot join the Norwegian national team in the Euro 2024 qualifiers because he is suffering from a groin injury so the decision of the coach and management of the Norwegian national team may be correct because forcing Haaland to play might result in a more serious injury.
But without Haaland presence Norway looks less than optimal and I think the front line is still not sharp enough to launch attacks.

It's not going to matter anyway. The chances that Norway may qualify either for Euro 2024 or the FIFA World Cup of 2026 is minimal. They are not in a good position as far as the Euro qualifiers are concerned. In Group A, they are now at third place behind Scotland and Spain. Even if Haaland plays for them for the remaining matches, I don't think that Norway will be able to overtake Spain and thereby qualify for the main tournament. I also don't understand what is the benefit Haaland is going to get in representing Norway. He should rather focus on his role with Manchester City F.C.
I also know that there is very small chance for Norway to qualify for Euro 2024 or the 2026 FIFA World Cup, but at least having Haaland as one of Norway core players can make the fans and support for Norway even greater even though in reality it is very impossible to catch up or even overtake Spain and Scotland.
Having Haaland play for the Norwegian national team can also provide greater enthusiasm or confidence for all players because Haaland is young player who can really help Norway in every match to have chance of winning.

Even though there are no promising benefits or no chance of qualifying for the main tournament at least there is sense of pride when playing for the national team and of course Haaland will get place with full respect there.
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Haaland has been heavily criticized by many who thinks he's not replicating his goalscoring heroics at the club level for his country.
The guy scored 25 goals in 26 games (or vice versa, I am too bored to check exact numbers) so you have to be mental to say that he is not doing his part. What is he supposed to do, score 2 goals per game? Would that be enough?
The problem is that when you score 25 goals in nearly 25 games, everyone starts to expect you to keep scoring like that. So lets assume that you start a season, and then in the first 25 games you scored 25 goals, that means if your next 25 games you score 15 goals which is still great, you are not "as good" anymore. That's his problem, he started his City career amazingly, he started it so well that it wasn't sustainable and of course his averages dropped to reality levels, because it was already a shocking thing for him to score that much.

In the end, when he dropped to realistic levels, people started to question his abilities. This is why he looks like he is not pulling his weight when he plays there anymore.
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Haaland has been heavily criticized by many who thinks he's not replicating his goalscoring heroics at the club level for his country.
The guy scored 25 goals in 26 games (or vice versa, I am too bored to check exact numbers) so you have to be mental to say that he is not doing his part. What is he supposed to do, score 2 goals per game? Would that be enough?


There's no way the brilliance of just one player in a team will help the entire team to win a major tournament without very vital contributions from his teammates and that's I don't believe in that folklore of a player single-handedly winning a major honour
Remove Messi from Argentina squad in Qatar and they wouldn't reach 1/8 final and maybe not even qualify for the WC. He of course didn't do it alone, but they are completely different level of team without him.
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Have you not seen a scenario where some individual talented players carried their country on their shoulders in a given competition such as the World or Nation Cup competition, even though that country is not among the top 10 or top 20 best countries in terms of football rating, these are things you do as an individual player that classifies you as an extraordinary player even though football is about teamwork, Haaland can do it for his country as the current goal-scoring machine we have now.
Halaand might be a beast at the club level, but with the national team, he doesn't seem to get much support from his teammates. He appears somewhat out of place on the squad, and the weight on his shoulders is truly immense, making it difficult for him to produce something extraordinary for Norway.
I also believe Nagelsman can make Germany a strong team again. Although it won't happen in a short time like to appear perfect at UEFA EURO 2024. He still needs time to adapt and find tactics and formations that suit the squad that Germany has. But I believe Nagelsman is a good coach for the German squad and I hope to give him enough time at least until the next world cup.

I have a sense that Nagelsman is just a stop-gap solution for the German football federation before Euro 2024 after parting ways with Flick. The ultimate aim is still to secure Jurgen Klopp for the long run.
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Erling Haaland is a young player that have more years to play football, we would enjoyed every moment during his time as top striker in both country and club football level. On a second thought, he would have gone ahead to nationalized for any strong country like France or Belgium, he would have done quite brilliant because he will play in the midst of outstanding players as teammates and having a tougher coach. Perhaps he's keen on making a name for Norway, he will be the top goal scorer in the country's history if he's consistent in outstanding performance just as club level.

Rikafip made some very interesting observations. Erling Håland is just 23 years old. Martin Ødegaard is just 24. Their attack-midfield looks quite OK. The issue with Norway is with their defense. But similar to the emergence of Håland and Ødegaard, there is a good chance that in due course of time some yong player may emerge and fill the gap in their defense as well. If that happens, then their team balance will get much stronger and they will be able to perform much better in both the Euro qualifiers and the FIFA World Cup qualifiers.
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