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Stefan Kuntz has now also been sacked by the turkish football association (tff). this was officially confirmed today. SK has been coaching the turks for almost exactly two years and his sporting record has been quite impressive. the 60-yo had 12 wins from 20 games with only 5 defeats - at 1.95, he had the second-best points average of all turkish national coaches, with only the perennially busy Fatih Terim having a better points average (2.05). it is not yet clear who will be his successor...
after germany presented a new national coach yesterday in the form of Julian Nagelsmann, as of today Michał Probierz is the new coach of the polish national team. until yesterday, the 50-yo MP was in charge of the u21 national team, with which he successfully started the qualification for the european youth championship. Probierz's main goal is to participate in euro 2024 in germany
Honestly do you think it is a good choice for Germany team?
Nagelsman failed to succeed in Bayern Munich not because he is not talented but because of his age is too young. Many star players in Bayern Munich likely did not respect Nagelsman enough and it is issue of Bayern Munich in the last season. Bayern Munich in their turn, always contribute many players for German team so the problems from Bayern Munich will be seen on German team again.
Problems of German team not only come from Hansi Flick but also come from quality of their players. Recent years, Germany don't have good strikers and after Miroslav Klose, Mario Gomez, it's hard to find a good striker at world class level for their national team. It is big problem in big tournaments like World Cup and Euro and only Nagelsman with a few months is not enough to resolve this big problem.
Not too bad if you ask me. Sure he wasn't amazing with Bayern, but why forget about him being awesome with Leipzig? He was great there and did as best as he could. In a league where Bayern dominated like crazy, he was able to take that team to second place right away, and that is a good achievement. Sure, at Bayern he didn't look that great, and not like Tuchel took over and instantly made them better neither, Tuchel luckily won the league because Dortmund lost points at the last game, if they didn't, then Tuchel would have lost too.Nagelsman failed to succeed in Bayern Munich not because he is not talented but because of his age is too young. Many star players in Bayern Munich likely did not respect Nagelsman enough and it is issue of Bayern Munich in the last season. Bayern Munich in their turn, always contribute many players for German team so the problems from Bayern Munich will be seen on German team again.
Problems of German team not only come from Hansi Flick but also come from quality of their players. Recent years, Germany don't have good strikers and after Miroslav Klose, Mario Gomez, it's hard to find a good striker at world class level for their national team. It is big problem in big tournaments like World Cup and Euro and only Nagelsman with a few months is not enough to resolve this big problem.
So, as much as I would like to say Nagelsmann was the responsible one, Bayern wasn't that good last year neither. I believe he could be a great Germany National team coach if you ask me.
as kicker just reported, the deal between fcb and dfb regarding Julian Nagelsmann is through. JN will become the new national coach of germany and will then receive a ten-month contract until the end of the european championship and will coach the dfb team for the first time on the international trip to the usa from october 9 to 18.
Honestly do you think it is a good choice for Germany team?Nagelsman failed to succeed in Bayern Munich not because he is not talented but because of his age is too young. Many star players in Bayern Munich likely did not respect Nagelsman enough and it is issue of Bayern Munich in the last season. Bayern Munich in their turn, always contribute many players for German team so the problems from Bayern Munich will be seen on German team again.
Problems of German team not only come from Hansi Flick but also come from quality of their players. Recent years, Germany don't have good strikers and after Miroslav Klose, Mario Gomez, it's hard to find a good striker at world class level for their national team. It is big problem in big tournaments like World Cup and Euro and only Nagelsman with a few months is not enough to resolve this big problem.
It is true that Bayern Munchen and Dortmund are the clubs that send the most players to the German national team, as are the examples of Madrid and Barca in the Spanish national team. Regarding Julian Nagelsmann not being able to fully control the dressing room at Bayern, it seems that for his duties with the German national team he is given more power, when deciding on player call-ups to strengthen the squad.
as kicker just reported, the deal between fcb and dfb regarding Julian Nagelsmann is through. JN will become the new national coach of germany and will then receive a ten-month contract until the end of the european championship and will coach the dfb team for the first time on the international trip to the usa from october 9 to 18.
Feels bad for Hansi Flick. One bad game and he is out. He hardly got any time to settle down with the German national squad. The defeat against Germany was somewhat shocking, but at the same time what he can do if the players don't have the capability to work together as a team? The performance in Qatar 2022 was quite disappointing, but then sacrificing the coach is like finding a scapegoat. I feel very skeptical about Germany's chances in Euro 2024. If Hansi Flick was there, then at least there would have been some stability. That is also lost now.
as kicker just reported, the deal between fcb and dfb regarding Julian Nagelsmann is through. JN will become the new national coach of germany and will then receive a ten-month contract until the end of the european championship and will coach the dfb team for the first time on the international trip to the usa from october 9 to 18.
Honestly do you think it is a good choice for Germany team?Nagelsman failed to succeed in Bayern Munich not because he is not talented but because of his age is too young. Many star players in Bayern Munich likely did not respect Nagelsman enough and it is issue of Bayern Munich in the last season. Bayern Munich in their turn, always contribute many players for German team so the problems from Bayern Munich will be seen on German team again.
Problems of German team not only come from Hansi Flick but also come from quality of their players. Recent years, Germany don't have good strikers and after Miroslav Klose, Mario Gomez, it's hard to find a good striker at world class level for their national team. It is big problem in big tournaments like World Cup and Euro and only Nagelsman with a few months is not enough to resolve this big problem.
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I hope they both come to a result that Germany soon has a new coach.
I hope they both come to a result that Germany soon has a new coach.
as kicker just reported, the deal between fcb and dfb regarding Julian Nagelsmann is through. JN will become the new national coach of germany and will then receive a ten-month contract until the end of the european championship and will coach the dfb team for the first time on the international trip to the usa from october 9 to 18.
After the dismissal of Hansi Flick because Germany lost by Japan, and appointed Rudi Völler as interim coach but I think the results were quite good. Because at least Rudi Völler managed to make Germany beat France in a friendly match after losing by Japan. But even so, it seems that Germany also does not plan to make Rudi Völler permanent as head coach, because based on rumors that are circulating it seems that Germany plans to appoint Julian Nagelsmann as head coach. Although at the moment this is still uncertain, but I think appointing Julian Nagelsmann as Germany head coach seems to be an inappropriate choice as well.
You are right, at the moment they want to work with Julian Nagelsmann. He is supposed to become the coach of Germany and win the 2024 European Championship for Germany. The European Championship will also take place in Germany. But there is a problem, Bayern Munich does not want to release him from his contract, the two probably have a big dispute. Nageslamnn has a contract with Bayern until 2026 and he should earn 7 million euros per year, as a coach of Germany it would be only 4 million per year. I hope they both come to a result that Germany soon has a new coach. 
In this case, it is impossible for a national team to find bad players, meaning that when Maguire, Lukaku and Griezmann are in a national team that has definitely made a special selection beforehand it indicates that Maguire, Giezmann and Lukaku still deserve to be there.
Regardless of their performance at the club, it is not the answer because the club and the national team will definitely be different in terms of actions and needs because a player can be bad when he is in the wrong club just like what happened to the three players we discussed today but in the national team they can be a frightening specter and their role is irreplaceable.
On the other hand, going back to the original discussion about Lukaku is also almost the same in my opinion. He is one of the strikers with a pretty good posture and is quite scary even though some of the players we discussed like Maguire and Lukaku are very bad at their clubs but they are still the first choice for the national team because maybe in terms of treatment and scheme they are more suitable than their clubs.
No, Maguire is not that great for the England national team and in England last few matches we can see that Maguire is not a good defender there Maguire even made several mistakes.Regardless of their performance at the club, it is not the answer because the club and the national team will definitely be different in terms of actions and needs because a player can be bad when he is in the wrong club just like what happened to the three players we discussed today but in the national team they can be a frightening specter and their role is irreplaceable.
On the other hand, going back to the original discussion about Lukaku is also almost the same in my opinion. He is one of the strikers with a pretty good posture and is quite scary even though some of the players we discussed like Maguire and Lukaku are very bad at their clubs but they are still the first choice for the national team because maybe in terms of treatment and scheme they are more suitable than their clubs.
If anyone talks about Maguire being a worthy or great player for the England national team that just nonsense.
Yes I know that bad performance at the club is not a guarantee that a player will also perform badly in the national team but did you know that Maguire is no longer fit to play in the national team and England have some great young players there so there is still a chance to get a defender best young.
Several people were surprised by the presence of Maguire name on the list of players called up to the England national team and of course many did not believe the call.
Lukaku is clearly still being used by Belgium because his performance and contribution to the national team is very good even though he is no longer young and may have declining performance but up to now Lukaku still holds the record for the best attacking player and goalscorer for Belgium.
Lukaku is a goal machine for Belgium.
Wales, Poland, Denmark (and possibly some others) play in League A and they have a chance of not qualifying for the Euro based on the results of the qualifying stage, so they, like the representatives of Leagues B, C and D, will participate in the qualifying tournament for the losers. I don’t know how bad Sweden’s performance is if we evaluate only among the losers, but it seems to me that their chances are small.
And do you know how this choice will be made?
There are 14 groups in the League of Nations, and there will be 12 places for this play-off in which 3 teams will qualify
4 groups in A, B and C and 2 groups in D
Perhaps they could exclude League D from this play-off and leave 12 groups to choose from?
There are some players who play very badly at the club but are very good when they are in the national team such as Griezmann who was bad when he was at Barcelona but is still the backbone of the French national team or Maguire who has always been criticized for his performance at Manchester United but his role in the England national team is irreplaceable until now.
Likewise for Lukaku, he did have problems with performance especially at some big clubs but this does not seem to interfere in the national team and he will still be in the same position and superior to the current Belgian national team.
Especially in this case Lukaku is one of the players who brought Belgium to their golden era and of course with the quality that Lukaku has even though there are some problems at the club but it will not have an impact on the national team.
For Griezmann I still believe that he can be relied on for the French national team but for Maguire playing for the English national team no longer makes a big contribution in fact his performance is almost the same as when he played for Manchester United and the presence of Magiure on the list of French national team players is due to several possible factors influenced him so that he cannot be replaced it just that regarding Maguire performance there is no difference at all.Likewise for Lukaku, he did have problems with performance especially at some big clubs but this does not seem to interfere in the national team and he will still be in the same position and superior to the current Belgian national team.
Especially in this case Lukaku is one of the players who brought Belgium to their golden era and of course with the quality that Lukaku has even though there are some problems at the club but it will not have an impact on the national team.
Returning to Lukaku discussion he really was Belgium carrier for each of their biggest achievements and when playing with Belgium Lukaku also looked very enthusiastic in fact he was really like a player who didn't feel tired in yesterday match.
Regardless of their performance at the club, it is not the answer because the club and the national team will definitely be different in terms of actions and needs because a player can be bad when he is in the wrong club just like what happened to the three players we discussed today but in the national team they can be a frightening specter and their role is irreplaceable.
On the other hand, going back to the original discussion about Lukaku is also almost the same in my opinion. He is one of the strikers with a pretty good posture and is quite scary even though some of the players we discussed like Maguire and Lukaku are very bad at their clubs but they are still the first choice for the national team because maybe in terms of treatment and scheme they are more suitable than their clubs.
Italy has been a shadow of themselves since the start of the UEFA European Championship Qualifying matches kicked off and had picked just 7 points from a possible 12 points which I think is absolutely poor for a footballing nation like Italy.
They're currently on the same points with third placed Ukraine and that's why they have to win their remaining qualifying fixtures including their away match against England to stand a good chance of qualifying to finals of the European championship.
Which is a very weird thing considering Italy is the last winners. I mean you do not expect the latest winners of a cup to be not able to go to the cup, but to be fair Italy failed to go to world cup right after euro cup as well. So, it is quite understandable and I could say that it is going to be something that will be very tough question to be asked; what happened? Because unless they find the problem, and why they became this bad, they are not going to end up getting better neither.They're currently on the same points with third placed Ukraine and that's why they have to win their remaining qualifying fixtures including their away match against England to stand a good chance of qualifying to finals of the European championship.
You can't get better without fixing the problem first, there aren't that many player changes, definitely not that mattered during euro to world cup neither, and yet they became so much worse, so if players are similar, what changed and what's the issue?
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I believe that he is good at his nation because he is the same person there, and he knows what he has to do. Plus it was just one game, he could still get worse for his nation as well and I believe that he will, but not right now. We have seen him not be that before, it could happen again.
For his country Lukaku is still one of the great players and Belgium is the country that has succeeded in creating the history of Lukaku game with so many achievements even though he has not been able to win the championship trophy at least Lukaku is the key Belgian victory.Like in yesterday match between Belgium and Estonia, they managed to win 5 - 0 and Lukaku scored 2 goals for Belgium.
Likewise for Lukaku, he did have problems with performance especially at some big clubs but this does not seem to interfere in the national team and he will still be in the same position and superior to the current Belgian national team.
Especially in this case Lukaku is one of the players who brought Belgium to their golden era and of course with the quality that Lukaku has even though there are some problems at the club but it will not have an impact on the national team.
Returning to Lukaku discussion he really was Belgium carrier for each of their biggest achievements and when playing with Belgium Lukaku also looked very enthusiastic in fact he was really like a player who didn't feel tired in yesterday match.
For his country Lukaku is still one of the great players and Belgium is the country that has succeeded in creating the history of Lukaku game with so many achievements even though he has not been able to win the championship trophy at least Lukaku is the key Belgian victory.
Like in yesterday match between Belgium and Estonia, they managed to win 5 - 0 and Lukaku scored 2 goals for Belgium.
It seems that Lukaku was much more fierce when he was in the Belgian national team and this has been proven by his achievements so far, being the top scorer in the qualifying round with 8 goals. As one of the top strikers, Lukaku managed to prove what the team needed. I haven't seen Lukaku this good for a long time and I can't even remember the last time he played well enough at club level. Maybe with the encouragement of confidence from the results he achieved with Belgium he can improve his performance slowly and I really appreciate it this time and hope it won't stop here.Like in yesterday match between Belgium and Estonia, they managed to win 5 - 0 and Lukaku scored 2 goals for Belgium.
Maybe Lukaku is no longer interested in the League title so he is so focused and giving his best performance just so that Belgium can qualify and have the opportunity to win the Euro 2024 title later.
Italy - Ukraine should be interesting game, it can be decisive game for both teams in fight for 2nd place. Italy looks like favorite, but they're not looking confident in this qualification, while Ukraine again England showed that they're capable to compete with top teams.
Italy had bad start in this group but it is not strange with them. Even in big tournaments like World Cup and Euro, they usually begin very bad but if they go to knock out phase, they become a more dangerous team with their tactical art Catenaccio.Italy still have chance to beat Ukraine and take a second position in this group that is enough for them. They don't have to mind too much about England that very likely already take a first position with very good first matches of this group. Italy had a draw against North Macedonia that is a disappointed debut for Spaletti but to assess him better, we need a big match like the one against Ukraine.
Italy must win against Ukraine if they don't want to miss two big tournaments within a few years, World Cup 2022 is a nightmare and they definitely don't want to have another one with Euro 2024.
The truth for me is that Italy should win everything that comes its way from now on, it should win the Euro, it should be in first place in the World Cup qualifiers and from there it reaches the USA-Canada and Mexico World Cup, because this team has to shine again, I would like Ancelotti to be in charge of this team because he is a coach who has a lot of vision and because he can make a difference, now it is necessary that they can do something well, in this Euro I think many are waiting very long of this team, they can do it and they can make the difference, so in this order of ideas things can be good, because it is time for that golden generation to arrive again, the Italians deserve another chance to shine, in this Euro nola They will have it so easy, I have seen that Portugal is on another level and they are doing things very well, I would be careful with that team, Germany I don't know, they allowed themselves to be beaten by Japan by a landslide and that makes it look bad, but They are still very strong, just like England.
In this Euro, the truth is that it seems much more exciting to me than the Copa América itself, because they have a higher level and can demonstrate many things, I have a lot of faith in the Italian team, I know that they can give more than what they have given, besides, I know They are going to go to the next World Cup, there is more opportunity for them to qualify, if Italy and Portugal go to the next World Cup I am fine, just as I want Italy to do well in the Euro, Serie A has been at a very high level, in fact In the UCL a team from Serie A arrived when many thought it was going to be a Spanish team, that means things are going well for Italy and their football is improving a lot and they have reached that high level that they have always maintained, that's why I think In Europe for now they can win everything that comes their way, of course that is what I see, I know that many do not believe much that Italy has been going through moments where its football is not popular, but now I see that things have It came together little by little.
They're currently on the same points with third placed Ukraine and that's why they have to win their remaining qualifying fixtures including their away match against England to stand a good chance of qualifying to finals of the European championship.
Yes, Sweden actually lost second place in the group in the head-to-head match and now they are waiting for participation in the tournament of losers, although I’m not sure that they will be able to qualify at least there - they took last place in League B in group 4 and were relegated to League C. Given that selection for the underdog tournament is based on performance in the Nations League, this defeat to Austria turns into a complete disaster for Sweden.
From what I've read about the 3 remaining places to Euro 2024:
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The remaining three teams will be decided through the play-offs, featuring 12 teams selected based on their performance in the 2022/23 Nations League.
SourceThe 12 teams that will participate in this play-off will probably be the top teams in League B, C and D.
I don't think League A will take part in this play-off, but I'm not entirely sure.
And Sweden won't be one of them, as they finished very poorly indeed, in last place of their group
Only a miracle will qualify Sweden
If anyone knows any more information about the 3 spots, please post it here
Wales, Poland, Denmark (and possibly some others) play in League A and they have a chance of not qualifying for the Euro based on the results of the qualifying stage, so they, like the representatives of Leagues B, C and D, will participate in the qualifying tournament for the losers. I don’t know how bad Sweden’s performance is if we evaluate only among the losers, but it seems to me that their chances are small.
Italy - Ukraine should be interesting game, it can be decisive game for both teams in fight for 2nd place. Italy looks like favorite, but they're not looking confident in this qualification, while Ukraine again England showed that they're capable to compete with top teams.
Italy had bad start in this group but it is not strange with them. Even in big tournaments like World Cup and Euro, they usually begin very bad but if they go to knock out phase, they become a more dangerous team with their tactical art Catenaccio.Italy still have chance to beat Ukraine and take a second position in this group that is enough for them. They don't have to mind too much about England that very likely already take a first position with very good first matches of this group. Italy had a draw against North Macedonia that is a disappointed debut for Spaletti but to assess him better, we need a big match like the one against Ukraine.
Italy must win against Ukraine if they don't want to miss two big tournaments within a few years, World Cup 2022 is a nightmare and they definitely don't want to have another one with Euro 2024.
The truth for me is that Italy should win everything that comes its way from now on, it should win the Euro, it should be in first place in the World Cup qualifiers and from there it reaches the USA-Canada and Mexico World Cup, because this team has to shine again, I would like Ancelotti to be in charge of this team because he is a coach who has a lot of vision and because he can make a difference, now it is necessary that they can do something well, in this Euro I think many are waiting very long of this team, they can do it and they can make the difference, so in this order of ideas things can be good, because it is time for that golden generation to arrive again, the Italians deserve another chance to shine, in this Euro nola They will have it so easy, I have seen that Portugal is on another level and they are doing things very well, I would be careful with that team, Germany I don't know, they allowed themselves to be beaten by Japan by a landslide and that makes it look bad, but They are still very strong, just like England.
In this Euro, the truth is that it seems much more exciting to me than the Copa América itself, because they have a higher level and can demonstrate many things, I have a lot of faith in the Italian team, I know that they can give more than what they have given, besides, I know They are going to go to the next World Cup, there is more opportunity for them to qualify, if Italy and Portugal go to the next World Cup I am fine, just as I want Italy to do well in the Euro, Serie A has been at a very high level, in fact In the UCL a team from Serie A arrived when many thought it was going to be a Spanish team, that means things are going well for Italy and their football is improving a lot and they have reached that high level that they have always maintained, that's why I think In Europe for now they can win everything that comes their way, of course that is what I see, I know that many do not believe much that Italy has been going through moments where its football is not popular, but now I see that things have It came together little by little.
I think Nagelsmann can be successful in the German national team. I also liked him during his time at Bayern Munich. In my opinion, he knows very well how to read the game and make moves accordingly. A coach that Bayern sent early. They may even regret sending him away early. I think he will make the right choice of squad.
Rudi Voller who is also the interim coach of the German team would have been a good candidate for the job, with the experience he has with being a former coach of the team, but he has ruled it out. https://www.reuters.com/sports/soccer/germanys-interim-coach-voeller-rules-out-succeeding-flick-2023-09-11/
If Nagelsmann becomes the new coach for the country, he will have a task at his hand almost immediately as the new coach which is win the Euro competition which they are host first before the challenge of winning another world cup for Germany. Louis van Gaal is another option for selection. He is also another very good option.
https://www.ivpressonline.com/sports/germany-needs-to-search-for-a-new-coach-and-fast-here-are-some-potential-candidates/article_eaa07db4-2bb0-5434-895f-1c5c3317105f.html
For me Nagelsmann is a better option then Louis van Gaal. Nagelsmann is german and already with his young career has a lot of experience and with how good he is he might take Germany really far. I think Germany should act fast to get a replacemant so that they dont waste time.
I think Nagelsmann can be successful in the German national team. I also liked him during his time at Bayern Munich. In my opinion, he knows very well how to read the game and make moves accordingly. A coach that Bayern sent early. They may even regret sending him away early. I think he will make the right choice of squad.
Rudi Voller who is also the interim coach of the German team would have been a good candidate for the job, with the experience he has with being a former coach of the team, but he has ruled it out. https://www.reuters.com/sports/soccer/germanys-interim-coach-voeller-rules-out-succeeding-flick-2023-09-11/
If Nagelsmann becomes the new coach for the country, he will have a task at his hand almost immediately as the new coach which is win the Euro competition which they are host first before the challenge of winning another world cup for Germany. Louis van Gaal is another option for selection. He is also another very good option.
https://www.ivpressonline.com/sports/germany-needs-to-search-for-a-new-coach-and-fast-here-are-some-potential-candidates/article_eaa07db4-2bb0-5434-895f-1c5c3317105f.html
He is a good coach overall but just wasnt able to find a way in the national team and Germany needed to sack him to try and get some good results because they will need it in the euros to try and win the title because they have a really good team and they need to go far with it.
They can fire the coach or the football association president as they like. But they should look in to the root cause. Performance from Germany is down, because newly drafted players are unable to keep up with the retiring ones. Their star payers like Thomas Müller and İlkay Gündoğan are getting old and more prone to injuries, but there is no one to replace them right now. On top of that, the quality of the local league has gone down over the years. Bundesliga at this point can't be compared to La Liga or the English Premier League.
After the dismissal of Hansi Flick because Germany lost by Japan, and appointed Rudi Völler as interim coach but I think the results were quite good. Because at least Rudi Völler managed to make Germany beat France in a friendly match after losing by Japan. But even so, it seems that Germany also does not plan to make Rudi Völler permanent as head coach, because based on rumors that are circulating it seems that Germany plans to appoint Julian Nagelsmann as head coach. Although at the moment this is still uncertain, but I think appointing Julian Nagelsmann as Germany head coach seems to be an inappropriate choice as well.
Lukaku is a wonderful player and a good striker, the problem that i see with him depends on the players that he is playing with, how they can understand his football pattern and feed him with the ball at the right time. If you look at it, last season he performed very well in Inter because i believe that the coach understands him and how to use him at the right time. I hope he plays impressively in Roma and he should be able to adapt with their football pattern fast. Look at his performance in the national team, very fantastic, this means that he needs to be stable in one club for him to be able to bring out his best performance. Chelsea is the club fustrating Lukaku football career.
Lukaku have worked with José Mourinho before, working with him again wouldn't be a difficult job between them. When there's presence of José Mourinho, I'm confident he would improved the player's status and making him a better version of himself. Romelu Lukaku is an outstanding striker with good qualities, he's in his new club and there's evidence that alot of things will change about the Belgium international. AS Roma have their own pattern of game which might be quite easy or complicated for Lukaku to adapt, but I believe he's a fast learner and will quickly suits in the attacking position for the club. Jump to: