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Quote from: Uruhara on April 12, 2024, 05:10:43 AM

This might be one of the most surprising matches of the year for me. Because the results of the match were truly beyond everyone's expectations. As if Liverpool were not a strong team competing for the title in the EPL. What I think is that Klopp made the wrong decision with their starting eleven. Because he didn't play M. Salah from the start of the match. Maybe Klopp underestimated Atalanta too much in that match. So the results are quite bad. We know that teams from Italy cannot always be underestimated. The proof is that last season the Champions League was also filled with teams from Italy in the semi-finals. Liverpool's hopes in the Europa League seem to be very difficult. Because I was behind with an aggregate of 3 goals, I felt it was very difficult to catch. What is clear is that I am very disappointed with them.

I don't think that Klopp is underestimating Atalanta, but Liverpool's squad has rotated a lot of players, not only in this match but in almost all matches this season. Klopp has rotated a lot of players because of the injury problems they continue to face.
The defeat against Atalanta is sometimes surprising and I see that the condition of the Liverpool team is not doing well because of the unsatisfactory results they got in the Premier League last weekend against Man United.

In football there are very often surprises, especially in the Europa League, almost every season there are big surprises and this season I think Liverpool's defeat was quite a big surprise because the Liverpool team is quite the favorite to win the Europa League title this season but in fact they are likely to eliminated in the quarterfinals.

Liverpool did not underestimate Atalanta, but they were too confident because at the start of the first half, Liverpool did have several good opportunities and they dominated the game. Even when Atalanta managed to score their first goal, Liverpool still looked quite confident, as if they believed they could catch up. But the situation really changed when Atalanta got their second goal, which we can see that Liverpool are starting to lose their rhythm and they look quite frustrated.

Liverpool will indeed face a tough path and their chances are not great but they still have that opportunity. As long as they still have a winning mentality, I think they can still make a comeback. In the 2018/19 Champions League season, Liverpool made a 4-0 comeback when playing against Barcelona, even though in the first leg they lost 0-3

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Quote from: Uruhara on April 12, 2024, 05:10:43 AM

This might be one of the most surprising matches of the year for me. Because the results of the match were truly beyond everyone's expectations. As if Liverpool were not a strong team competing for the title in the EPL. What I think is that Klopp made the wrong decision with their starting eleven. Because he didn't play M. Salah from the start of the match. Maybe Klopp underestimated Atalanta too much in that match. So the results are quite bad. We know that teams from Italy cannot always be underestimated. The proof is that last season the Champions League was also filled with teams from Italy in the semi-finals. Liverpool's hopes in the Europa League seem to be very difficult. Because I was behind with an aggregate of 3 goals, I felt it was very difficult to catch. What is clear is that I am very disappointed with them.

I don't think that Klopp is underestimating Atalanta, but Liverpool's squad has rotated a lot of players, not only in this match but in almost all matches this season. Klopp has rotated a lot of players because of the injury problems they continue to face.
The defeat against Atalanta is sometimes surprising and I see that the condition of the Liverpool team is not doing well because of the unsatisfactory results they got in the Premier League last weekend against Man United.

In football there are very often surprises, especially in the Europa League, almost every season there are big surprises and this season I think Liverpool's defeat was quite a big surprise because the Liverpool team is quite the favorite to win the Europa League title this season but in fact they are likely to eliminated in the quarterfinals.

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Quote from: execijutiere on April 12, 2024, 03:09:24 AM

Two games in the Europa League didn't end as I expected.I didn't expect both Milan and Liverpool to lose.Milan lost 1-0 at home against Roma, making it difficult for them to qualify.Of course, all is not lost for Milan, but it's not normal for them to lose at home when they are in such good form.It's their fault that they couldn't take advantage of so many scoring chances in the match, but Roma's away win may have been more than enough to open the door for them.
Liverpool, on the other hand, lost by 3 goals at home against Atalanta, making it really difficult for them.Although they played a better game than their opponents in the match, they were unlucky in front of goal, which led to them not scoring and conceding goals.I don't know if Liverpool can pass the round away, but they have a really difficult job.Liverpool can win by at least 3 goals away from home and maybe take it to extra time.

This might be one of the most surprising matches of the year for me. Because the results of the match were truly beyond everyone's expectations. As if Liverpool were not a strong team competing for the title in the EPL. What I think is that Klopp made the wrong decision with their starting eleven. Because he didn't play M. Salah from the start of the match. Maybe Klopp underestimated Atalanta too much in that match. So the results are quite bad. We know that teams from Italy cannot always be underestimated. The proof is that last season the Champions League was also filled with teams from Italy in the semi-finals. Liverpool's hopes in the Europa League seem to be very difficult. Because I was behind with an aggregate of 3 goals, I felt it was very difficult to catch. What is clear is that I am very disappointed with them.

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Quote from: execijutiere on April 12, 2024, 03:09:24 AM

Two games in the Europa League didn't end as I expected.I didn't expect both Milan and Liverpool to lose.Milan lost 1-0 at home against Roma, making it difficult for them to qualify.Of course, all is not lost for Milan, but it's not normal for them to lose at home when they are in such good form.It's their fault that they couldn't take advantage of so many scoring chances in the match, but Roma's away win may have been more than enough to open the door for them.
Liverpool, on the other hand, lost by 3 goals at home against Atalanta, making it really difficult for them.Although they played a better game than their opponents in the match, they were unlucky in front of goal, which led to them not scoring and conceding goals.I don't know if Liverpool can pass the round away, but they have a really difficult job.Liverpool can win by at least 3 goals away from home and maybe take it to extra time.

What else do you expect from Liverpool match when you see the likes of Jones, Elliot, Gakpo and tsimikas? Klopp deliberately gave away that game with his squad selection. You can not send a weak squad against an opponent like Atalanta as if it Norwich you are going to play and expect a miraculous result. The second half panic substitution makes things more difficult and worse. Klopp got what he deserved in that match, he's a kind of couch I know that he underrate his opponent so much. You can not underestimate any team in Europe that reach this stage of the competition but his pride won't allow him to act proper. Glad that he already admitted that they played very poorly. Liverpool is really creating doubt on their chances of winning the EPL title. Firstly, they bottled a five points lead in the Premier league and now they bottle the Europa league because beating Atalanta on away visit is not realistic.

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Quote from: Plaguedeath on April 12, 2024, 04:38:00 AM

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Bayer Leverkusen, as expected, defeated West Ham 2-0 and managed to get an important win for the round.Leverkusen, who did not even give their opponent the opportunity to play, certainly had more chances to score more goals in the match.West ham had 1 shot during the match while Bayer Leverkusen had 33 shots.The fact that this match resulted in 2 goals shows us how strange this statistic is. It was a pity for Leverkusen that they couldn't make the difference 4 or 5 despite dominating the match so much.It was obvious from the beginning that Leverkusen would be the side to go through, but it is not logically expected that there would be so much difference between the 2 teams.Leverkusen will focus on this now that they have opened the gap in the league.

That result, statistic and the way Leverkusen's play are what people expect to see in Liverpool vs Atalanta. Cheesy

But no lol, Atalanta proves everyone wrong, even though they didn't dominating the pitch and shots lower than Liverpool, but winning for 3 goals in Anfield is really a big achievement.

I watched the highlight, Leverkusen is just unlucky, on the other hands Fabianski perform pretty well too.

Atalanta made a big surprise in the quarter-finals of the Europa League, no one thought that Atalanta would be able to win at Anfield.
There is a big difference between Liverpool and Leverkusen's game, I see Liverpool as if they are desperate because Atalanta's defense is quite solid which makes Liverpool frustrated and they continue to launch attacks so they forget about their defense which makes them have to concede 3 points, this is really quite surprising and I think now everything it's over for Liverpool.

As for Leverkusen, they are as usual, they are really consistent with their performance apart from the 2 goal wins they were able to score, but I see this team's game is really very consistent.

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Quote from: LFC_Bitcoin on April 12, 2024, 04:15:08 AM

Terrible performance by Liverpool, we asked for it with the team selection, resting a bunch of our star players. I think we underestimated Atalanta and there was a total lack of effort.

Liverpool has nearly zero chance of qualifying for the further stage. It's still questioned my why klopp was starting salah from the bench. Klopp was obviously underestimating their opponents and shit happens to the liverpool.

Quote from: LFC_Bitcoin on April 12, 2024, 04:15:08 AM

I think we disrespected the competition, it is what it is though. Barring a miracle in the 2nd leg we’re out, oh well onwards and upwards.

It seemed to me liverpool intentionally lost in that game. Pathetic performance from liverpool. The reds is now nearly leaving from europa league. it's obvious i'll pick atalanta. I consider that making comeback in away game is quite impossible to happen.

What a perfect parking bus from atalanta.

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Quote from: LFC_Bitcoin on April 12, 2024, 04:15:08 AM

Terrible performance by Liverpool, we asked for it with the team selection, resting a bunch of our star players. I think we underestimated Atalanta and there was a total lack of effort.

I think we disrespected the competition, it is what it is though. Barring a miracle in the 2nd leg we’re out, oh well onwards and upwards.

Liverpool were unlucky with a shot from Elliot and some opportunities that in a normal day, they can score goals. Generally Liverpool played worse than their normal performances in this season and Atalanta contributed to this terrible defeat of Liverpool by converting nearly all chances they got in the match to goals.

With this shocked defeat, I agree with you that only shocked miracle can help Liverpool to beat Atalanta 3 - 0 or bigger in Italy.

Quote from: execijutiere on April 12, 2024, 03:40:45 AM

Bayer Leverkusen, as expected, defeated West Ham 2-0 and managed to get an important win for the round.Leverkusen, who did not even give their opponent the opportunity to play, certainly had more chances to score more goals in the match.West ham had 1 shot during the match while Bayer Leverkusen had 33 shots.

Leverkusen did not have an easy match but some substitutions from Xabi Alonso helped them to beat West Ham. 2 - 0 is a good result before a second leg match and Leverkusen are expanding their unbeaten streak in this season. They are continuing to aim at winning three titles in this season, Bundesliga (finished, we can say so), German National Cup, and Europa League.

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Quote from: execijutiere on April 12, 2024, 03:40:45 AM

Bayer Leverkusen, as expected, defeated West Ham 2-0 and managed to get an important win for the round.Leverkusen, who did not even give their opponent the opportunity to play, certainly had more chances to score more goals in the match.West ham had 1 shot during the match while Bayer Leverkusen had 33 shots.The fact that this match resulted in 2 goals shows us how strange this statistic is. It was a pity for Leverkusen that they couldn't make the difference 4 or 5 despite dominating the match so much.It was obvious from the beginning that Leverkusen would be the side to go through, but it is not logically expected that there would be so much difference between the 2 teams.Leverkusen will focus on this now that they have opened the gap in the league.

That result, statistic and the way Leverkusen's play are what people expect to see in Liverpool vs Atalanta. Cheesy

But no lol, Atalanta proves everyone wrong, even though they didn't dominating the pitch and shots lower than Liverpool, but winning for 3 goals in Anfield is really a big achievement.

I watched the highlight, Leverkusen is just unlucky, on the other hands Fabianski perform pretty well too.

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Big loss for Liverpool. This will have an effect on their league form as well as they will start to doubt themselves. If they lost at home to Atalanta, what is stopping Crystal Palace from visiting in the weekend and leaving with something as well? Klopp has a big job to get his team out of the ditch and focus them on the match ahead and also rebuild their confidence.

The revere fixture will be very exciting to watch.

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from the day I watched this Atalanta team playing against Napoli in such a manner that Napoli was struggling theouout the match, I gave them 💯 respect to be honest. Those boys have the energy and the fighting spirit and you don't see a team as that and then you underate them and refuse bringing your key players into the game because you think You're the big team?

When I saw the lineup and those that where even missing in the substitute, I knew th coach was playing with second choice team with very few strong faces and then you're loosing a 0:3 home win in front of your fans? Who does that? This is a huge loss regardless of the excuses supporters would want to give and I tell you that most persons will play Liverpool to have a straight win in that match and tickets will cut supplus cause this is just crazy

This was a painful and embarrassing defeat that Liverpool experienced in front of their own supporters when they hosted Atalanta in the first leg of the Europa League quarter-finals. I might still consider it normal if they lost with a score of 0-1 for example, but this time they had to lose with a striking score with 3 goals without reply. They were favorites from the start and they were even favorites to be in the final, but unfortunately they had to be destroyed in the first leg with a landslide score.

3 goals will be very difficult for them to catch in the second leg, especially since Atalanta will play as hosts in the match. I predict Atalanta will play more defensively because a 3 goal lead will be difficult to catch even though it could happen.

I don't think this is because they underestimated Atalanta, what is clear is that this is a very disappointing result, how almost everyone's predictions that Liverpool would win were shattered by the final result of the match.

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Terrible performance by Liverpool, we asked for it with the team selection, resting a bunch of our star players. I think we underestimated Atalanta and there was a total lack of effort.

I think we disrespected the competition, it is what it is though. Barring a miracle in the 2nd leg we’re out, oh well onwards and upwards.

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Quote from: CryptoBuds on April 11, 2024, 10:05:08 PM

There is no doubt that many gamblers lost money on Liverpool's win. But I restrained myself from betting on the match. Because I thought Liverpool are now more busy to win the Premier League title. Their main target is to secure the Premier League title. So I wasn't sure if Liverpool would give their full effort in the Europa League match.

Klopp probably thought they could win against Atalanta with the second row of players. This was Liverpool's biggest mistake. Atalanta team should not be underestimated by Liverpool. However, we saw a very poor performance from Liverpool's defenders. Liverpool would not have been beaten badly if the defenders had done well.

Klopp didn't have much choice to do this rotation honestly. Because the Premier League title is the most important thing for them indeed and they have a game to play there this Sunday. He must have wanted to have at least some of his main players fully fit for the Crystal Palace game. Besides Liverpool actually played really good, the score shouldn't be misleading. They were just incapable of finishing lots of goal opportunities. Sad

Leverkusen were insanely good by the way. Cheesy

They literally didn't let West Ham play. The final score seems as 2-0 maybe but believe me it could have ended much worse for West Ham. Tongue

After securing the Bundesliga title it looks like Xabi Alonso wants to go all in here.

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Quote from: execijutiere on April 12, 2024, 03:09:24 AM

Two games in the Europa League didn't end as I expected.I didn't expect both Milan and Liverpool to lose.Milan lost 1-0 at home against Roma, making it difficult for them to qualify.Of course, all is not lost for Milan, but it's not normal for them to lose at home when they are in such good form.It's their fault that they couldn't take advantage of so many scoring chances in the match, but Roma's away win may have been more than enough to open the door for them.
Liverpool, on the other hand, lost by 3 goals at home against Atalanta, making it really difficult for them.Although they played a better game than their opponents in the match, they were unlucky in front of goal, which led to them not scoring and conceding goals.I don't know if Liverpool can pass the round away, but they have a really difficult job.Liverpool can win by at least 3 goals away from home and maybe take it to extra time.

It is always hard to predict the future. Imagine I also thought that those two clubs that you mentioned would also win their matches at home, but it turned out the other way round. There is still hope for Milan, if only they can make proper use of their chances in the second leg, compare to Liverpool that does not have any hope of winning Atalanta. The reason why I said this, is because Liverpool played well but they were unable to penetrated Atalanta defense, which made it very difficult for them to find the back of the net, while Atalanta just keep on scoring.

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Quote from: execijutiere on April 12, 2024, 03:40:45 AM

Bayer Leverkusen, as expected, defeated West Ham 2-0 and managed to get an important win for the round.Leverkusen, who did not even give their opponent the opportunity to play, certainly had more chances to score more goals in the match.West ham had 1 shot during the match while Bayer Leverkusen had 33 shots.The fact that this match resulted in 2 goals shows us how strange this statistic is. It was a pity for Leverkusen that they couldn't make the difference 4 or 5 despite dominating the match so much.It was obvious from the beginning that Leverkusen would be the side to go through, but it is not logically expected that there would be so much difference between the 2 teams.Leverkusen will focus on this now that they have opened the gap in the league.

This was a very valuable victory, apart from that Leverkusen really played a very good game and did not give West Ham the opportunity to develop their game so they could hold Leverkusen. They really controlled the game and they even pressed from the first minute to the last minute of the match.
If they can play like this in the second leg, then I am sure they will be able to win the game easily, because in this match their game was very good and did not give space to the opposing players. West Ham had to be forced to defend throughout the match, they had almost no chances and recorded only 1 attack. This is very good capital for them to look at the second leg.
However, unexpectedly Livrpool lost to their guests with a landslide score of 0-3.

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Bayer Leverkusen, as expected, defeated West Ham 2-0 and managed to get an important win for the round.Leverkusen, who did not even give their opponent the opportunity to play, certainly had more chances to score more goals in the match.West ham had 1 shot during the match while Bayer Leverkusen had 33 shots.The fact that this match resulted in 2 goals shows us how strange this statistic is. It was a pity for Leverkusen that they couldn't make the difference 4 or 5 despite dominating the match so much.It was obvious from the beginning that Leverkusen would be the side to go through, but it is not logically expected that there would be so much difference between the 2 teams.Leverkusen will focus on this now that they have opened the gap in the league.

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Quote from: CryptoBuds on April 11, 2024, 10:05:08 PM

Klopp probably thought they could win against Atalanta with the second row of players. This was Liverpool's biggest mistake. Atalanta team should not be underestimated by Liverpool. However, we saw a very poor performance from Liverpool's defenders. Liverpool would not have been beaten badly if the defenders had done well.

Yep.

Tsimikas, Elliott, and Jones are second row players, I don't know why Klopp didn't let Robertson, Scoboszlai and Salah from the beginning, it's clear they underestimate Atalanta.

This might be second biggest upset after Leverkusen become a champion in Bundesliga, with 3 goals difference and the second leg will play in Atalanta's ground, to be honest I didn't expect Liverpool able to catch the 3 points...

On the other match, just like what I expect, Roma win against Milan.

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Quote from: el kaka22 on April 11, 2024, 10:38:04 PM

It is already quite hard to pick one game and watch that over at UCL when you have two at a time, but here at Europa it's even four at a time. UEFA must realize that they are literally losing money because of this, I am not saying put every game on a different date, but at least spread it around a bit, that way you could have less games per day.

When you put them all into a single day, people have to pick a game and just watch that, plus you could even make hours very different, hence even on a single day, you could have four different games, just have one start at afternoon if you want to. This situation should be fixed asap with the new league format, or we are going to see even more games all on the same day and less viewership because of it.

Most league have different competition to play and the international football are always around the corners. Uefa has little time to organize their games. This is the reason why their schedule is always having many games being played in a day. If they should spread it the way you are talking about, it will have severe effect on domestic league schedule. Uefa understand these things and decided to work the way they are doing.

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Two games in the Europa League didn't end as I expected.I didn't expect both Milan and Liverpool to lose.Milan lost 1-0 at home against Roma, making it difficult for them to qualify.Of course, all is not lost for Milan, but it's not normal for them to lose at home when they are in such good form.It's their fault that they couldn't take advantage of so many scoring chances in the match, but Roma's away win may have been more than enough to open the door for them.
Liverpool, on the other hand, lost by 3 goals at home against Atalanta, making it really difficult for them.Although they played a better game than their opponents in the match, they were unlucky in front of goal, which led to them not scoring and conceding goals.I don't know if Liverpool can pass the round away, but they have a really difficult job.Liverpool can win by at least 3 goals away from home and maybe take it to extra time.

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There is no doubt that many gamblers lost money on Liverpool's win. But I restrained myself from betting on the match. Because I thought Liverpool are now more busy to win the Premier League title. Their main target is to secure the Premier League title. So I wasn't sure if Liverpool would give their full effort in the Europa League match.

Klopp probably thought they could win against Atalanta with the second row of players. This was Liverpool's biggest mistake. Atalanta team should not be underestimated by Liverpool. However, we saw a very poor performance from Liverpool's defenders. Liverpool would not have been beaten badly if the defenders had done well.

This was unexpected, even for Klopp. He made some mistakes by not fielding their strongest 11, underestimating Atlanta. The starting lineup didn't seem confident about winning, unfortunately their changes didn't work out, which leading to disaster at home. But is there any excuse of their weak defense and attack? Of-course not. It was errors from Liverpool's side and poor defending. Every time Atlanta attacked, they looked like they would score. It was an off night for Liverpool, and their performance is a concern for the Premier League. Well played, Atlanta.

Liverpool lost this match due to underestimating Atalanta team. Atalanta team was not in good form. Atalanta have won just one of their last 5 matches in Serie A. And lost all three matches. The team's performance was very poor. Perhaps this is why Liverpool coach Klopp did not take the Atalanta team seriously. Such a mistake was not expected from an experienced coach like Klopp.

There is no doubt that Aatalanta's players performed well in this match. They exploited every weakness in Liverpool's players. Atalanta got a 1-0 lead in the first half. Scamacca performed well in this match. He scored two goals.

That's usually what happens a lot when everyone underestimates one of the teams... Yesterday everyone was sure that Liverpool would win because they were playing at home... But there was a big surprise and now Liverpool have to do the impossible in the return match... Of course I expected Atalanta to surprise, but I didn't expect such a fantastic win...

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Unbelievable with Liverpool as favorite team for winning Europe League this season have loss on first leg match over 0-3 at Anfield Stadium, its not good capital for facing second leg match and Liverpool must winning above four goals if won't eliminated in quarter final round. I think Jurgen Klopp over confidence by saving some main players from Mohamad Salah, Dominik Szoboszlai, Andy Robertson and Luiz Diaz. Make several change on second half but not effective yet and Liverpool must improving hard their performance on second leg match if want qualify to next round.

Other quarter final leg match, AS Roma get the positive result after defeating AC Milan and get more advantage with second legs match will play on their home, need get draw or secure the winning result will make fantastic with Daniele De Rossi success bring Roma qualify to semifinal round and has chance to repeat AS Roma achievement under Jose Mourinho era qualified to final round.

Liverpool suffered an incredible defeat. Actually, it would not be right to say that they played poorly in the match, but they could not score a goal and therefore their chances of being eliminated in the quarter-finals are now quite high. Atalanta made good use of the opportunities and scored 3 goals, this will be a huge advantage for them.
If they can score 1 goal in the next match, they will make great progress in getting out of this tour. We were all surprised, but we need to congratulate Atalanta

It's actually true that we need to congratulate Atalanta for the time being, but let's not forget that this is Liverpool, it's not over, until it's over, let's take a look at this Liverpool team, to me, what i felt that makes them lose in such a manner was that they felt to relaxed, they were just complacent, but I believe that they have all it takes in their ranks to fight back, just as they did against Barcelona in the champions league a few years back, the only challenge I feel like they will have this time is that they are playing away from home, but the return leg is actually going to be a fascinating encounter between them both.

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Quote from: un_rank on April 12, 2024, 12:37:02 AM

Big loss for Liverpool. This will have an effect on their league form as well as they will start to doubt themselves. If they lost at home to Atalanta, what is stopping Crystal Palace from visiting in the weekend and leaving with something as well? Klopp has a big job to get his team out of the ditch and focus them on the match ahead and also rebuild their confidence.

The revere fixture will be very exciting to watch.

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from the day I watched this Atalanta team playing against Napoli in such a manner that Napoli was struggling theouout the match, I gave them 💯 respect to be honest. Those boys have the energy and the fighting spirit and you don't see a team as that and then you underate them and refuse bringing your key players into the game because you think You're the big team?

When I saw the lineup and those that where even missing in the substitute, I knew th coach was playing with second choice team with very few strong faces and then you're loosing a 0:3 home win in front of your fans? Who does that? This is a huge loss regardless of the excuses supporters would want to give and I tell you that most persons will play Liverpool to have a straight win in that match and tickets will cut supplus cause this is just crazy

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