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legendary
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October 14, 2024, 06:35:57 AM
I think we should wait for the end of matchday 4 for correct assumptions. There will be 8 games in the league after all and the standings are determined by many variables such as fixture luck, the current form of the opponents, the results of the other matches. It wouldn't be right to talk about who will advance and who will be eliminated in the first 2-3 matches. But after the 4th matches, the league will be halfway through, so the luck factor will be greatly reduced and more accurate future projections can be made.
It's very possible that we will see the team that looks last at the moment in the top 16 at the end of the group stage. And in this league, a top 24 finish is enough for the next round. The play-off pairings will also be a matter of luck, there might be a significant difference in quality between the 9th ranked team and the 24th ranked team, but not between the 12th ranked team and the 21st ranked team, for example. The luck of the draw has always been important and this league will be no different. There is no big difference between 9th and 24th place, unless you are in the top 8, you will h ave to play knockout matches anyway.
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October 14, 2024, 06:02:30 AM

Tottenham is one of the teams that is unbeaten in the 2 Europa League matches that have been played, next they will face AZ Alkmaar in the 3rd match of the Europa League this season. Looking at the strength of both teams, it is clear that Tottenham is more favored in this match, but they also cannot underestimate the opponents they will face.
Tottenham will play as the host, this is an advantage for them, they must be able to take advantage of this opportunity as best they can to achieve the best results. They are also one of the teams that have the status of favorites to become champions in the Europa League this season.
About this game, I think Tottenham will have an easy win here, they will be playing at home, and they are in good form and also have good winnings in their previous matches in all competition than AZ Alkmaar. Even though football is a game of chance and luck, I don't expect Tottenham to either lose or draw this game because they need all the points they can get to lead the Europa League table.
In the Dutch League, AZ Alkmaar isn't performing bad as they currently occupy the 3rd position in the league but in the UEFA Europa League competition, I don't consider them as one of the strong teams in the competition. Playing away at Tottenham Hotspur in my own opinion is an already lost game for the Dutch club AZ Alkmaar because their hosts aren't just performing well in their domestic league but has won their first two games in the UEFA Europa League this season despite playing over 80 minutes of their first game against Qarabag with just 10 men.
legendary
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October 14, 2024, 05:05:14 AM
I think the same with United as I cannot see them approaching an international trophy anytime soon with how bad the team is performing but at this point what is normal at United ? because from my perspective there is pure chaos and Ten Hag will most likely be there until the end of the season and then out of nowhere he will catch another contract...exactly how it was this year.  Grin

Manchester United have 8 match schedules here and 2 matches have been played with a draw well we don't know whether it's a bad record for Manchester United or they will catch up in the remaining 6 matches. Of the 36 teams in this Rode 8 teams will compete for the main ticket to go to the next Rode while 16 other teams will compete through the play off round well maybe Manchester United still have a chance through this play -off round.
Manchester United, who are in 14th place in the Premier League, also fell short of expectations in the Europa League. Their next match will be against Fenerbahçe. As a Turk, I want Fenerbahçe to win. The Manchester United manager will have reached the end of his patience in these matches. The results he gets in these matches will be very important for the management. Perhaps if he gets a bad result in the next match in the Europa League, he may even be dismissed from the team.
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October 14, 2024, 04:58:28 AM

Tottenham is one of the teams that is unbeaten in the 2 Europa League matches that have been played, next they will face AZ Alkmaar in the 3rd match of the Europa League this season. Looking at the strength of both teams, it is clear that Tottenham is more favored in this match, but they also cannot underestimate the opponents they will face.
Tottenham will play as the host, this is an advantage for them, they must be able to take advantage of this opportunity as best they can to achieve the best results. They are also one of the teams that have the status of favorites to become champions in the Europa League this season.
One thing i know is that Tottenham will not give chances to loose at home, they are going to make sure the worse they can take would be a draw but i doubt if they are going to settle for such, because even in the premier league this season they haven't lost so much at home and that is a very competitive league with some more tough teams than they are meeting in the Europa and same applies with AZ Alkmaar, they aren't am A lister in their league but an average and so i agree with Tottenham been favored in this game.
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October 14, 2024, 04:56:16 AM

Tottenham is one of the teams that is unbeaten in the 2 Europa League matches that have been played, next they will face AZ Alkmaar in the 3rd match of the Europa League this season. Looking at the strength of both teams, it is clear that Tottenham is more favored in this match, but they also cannot underestimate the opponents they will face.
Tottenham will play as the host, this is an advantage for them, they must be able to take advantage of this opportunity as best they can to achieve the best results. They are also one of the teams that have the status of favorites to become champions in the Europa League this season.
Tottenham is currently unstoppable in the Europa League, they have six points already after their first two matches, and they are looking up to win their third match because they are in good shape and the team is hungry for title and they will want to use any opportunity that come their way, and this season's Europa League seems to be an opportunity of them because the big teams that should stop them are nit in good form that is why they are among the favorites to win the Europa League.

About this game, I think Tottenham will have an easy win here, they will be playing at home, and they are in good form and also have good winnings in their previous matches in all competition than AZ Alkmaar. Even though football is a game of chance and luck, I don't expect Tottenham to either lose or draw this game because they need all the points they can get to lead the Europa League table.
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October 14, 2024, 04:45:41 AM
I think the same with United as I cannot see them approaching an international trophy anytime soon with how bad the team is performing but at this point what is normal at United ? because from my perspective there is pure chaos and Ten Hag will most likely be there until the end of the season and then out of nowhere he will catch another contract...exactly how it was this year.  Grin

Manchester United have 8 match schedules here and 2 matches have been played with a draw well we don't know whether it's a bad record for Manchester United or they will catch up in the remaining 6 matches. Of the 36 teams in this Rode 8 teams will compete for the main ticket to go to the next Rode while 16 other teams will compete through the play off round well maybe Manchester United still have a chance through this play -off round.
Nobody is saying that Manchester United does not have the chance to qualify with only two points that they have gotten from the two matches that they have played, but the problem is will they be able to win 4 matches out of the 6 matches that have not been played. I doubt it, and it is only possible if they can improve their performance but Ten Hag is not capable of doing that. This makes me believe that United might not be able to make it to the round of 16. No one should be put hope that it is possible for Manchester United to win thr league because it will be a dream that will not come true this season only if Ten Hag leaves the club.
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October 14, 2024, 04:39:05 AM
If Ten Hag can incredibly change and improve Manchester United's performance in the Europa League, then perhaps the odds given to them are much lower. But Manchester United is unlikely to be among the favorites to win the Europa League title, so odds above 7 don't mean much. Who would want to pick Manchester United to win the Europa League if the performance is like now, even someone with $ 10 will probably think 3 times before making a bet.

Several top teams from La Liga such as Bilbao can still be taken into account, but their performance in the last two matches is a bit doubtful. But there are still a lot of games to be played by each team and they can all still change. Representatives from Serie A and the Premier League are certainly strong, but representatives from La Liga probably cannot be underestimated.

Exactly how can anyone with good sense pick Manchester United to win the Europa League trophy? It is impossible, even in a dream. Where could Manchester United cross to win the trophy, when there are other top clubs in the tournament? I believe the 7.5 odds offered by the bookies for Manchester United are very low, a team like Manchester United should be given at least 10 odds based on their current performance. If Manchester United advances to the next round, they will be lucky because they have not won a single game in this competition.

However, Bilbao, who won against Alkmaar and drew against Roma, was offered 11 odds, I think the bookies have no idea what they predict at times because Bilbao is far better compared to Manchester United this season, this team currently sits in 11th position, while Manchester United is in 21st position with their two points in two matches, among the Premier League representatives, it seems that Tottenham will be the only one that is going to make it to the next round because it is still difficult that Manchester United will win their next game.
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October 14, 2024, 02:38:01 AM
I think the same with United as I cannot see them approaching an international trophy anytime soon with how bad the team is performing but at this point what is normal at United ? because from my perspective there is pure chaos and Ten Hag will most likely be there until the end of the season and then out of nowhere he will catch another contract...exactly how it was this year.  Grin

Manchester United have 8 match schedules here and 2 matches have been played with a draw well we don't know whether it's a bad record for Manchester United or they will catch up in the remaining 6 matches. Of the 36 teams in this Rode 8 teams will compete for the main ticket to go to the next Rode while 16 other teams will compete through the play off round well maybe Manchester United still have a chance through this play -off round.
The remaining 6 matches will be against Fenerbahce, Paok, Bodo/Glimt, Viktoria Plazen, Rangers, and FCSB, 3 home 3 away.
If Ten Hag's troops can beat them all, of course the opportunity to qualify for R16 does not have to go through the play-off round, but the question is whether it is possible after we all know how bad their current performance is, even in their domestic league they are temporarily in 14th position, clearly this does not describe an elite club.
With their current condition which has not improved, to enter the play-off round they have to fight harder.
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October 14, 2024, 01:36:51 AM
It's quite right time to let go about the situation at Manchester United, since the management has refused to do the needful, that is parting ways with Ten Hag, and bring in new manager, Manchester united isn't more important to Man Utd fans and supporters than it's to the management board who runs business and owns the clus highest shares, So whenever they feeel or decided to come out of slumber and get the right things done to fix up the united team, then good.
Manchester United have formed a new way of measuring success. Manchester United had a draw against Aston Villa, and the fans were delighted with the result. This is the shambolic state the club is in at the moment, the standards have dropped significantly. The team has consistently demonstrated that they cannot perform under Erik Ten Hag yet Manchester United bosses are backing the manager. The other teams in the Premier League are happy to have Erik Ten Hag as United’s manager.
The fans of Manchester United were excited with a draw they got from Aston Villa because they actually expected a loss on the match. Recur that Manchester United have not been very fortunate this season as they have lost majority of their matches. This makes Aston Villa a favourite team to win in that match. Most people actually bet Aston Villa to win, so a draw was a great result for them. I was even surprised that Manchested United was able to draw that match.
Based on the current performance, Manchester United fans were expecting a draw in the match between Manchester United and Aston Villa. Manchester United's past performance was not bad but their current performance is very bad. As a result, they faced Aston Villa as a weak opponent. According to past performance, Manchester United have won four consecutive matches against Aston Villa but if they could have won the last match, they could have won five matches in a row against Aston villa. That may have been challenging given their current performance.

In the match held between Aston Villa and Manchester United on October 6, Aston Villa advanced in ball position and passing, but none of their players could score the winning goal, As a result the match ended in a draw and both teams had to be satisfied with equal points.
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October 14, 2024, 12:41:39 AM
As for the Manchester United topic, I'm not going to talk too much. I just don't see them that powerful to be favoured like they are one of the closest teams to win the Europa League title. It is that simple to me.


Source: https://www.oddschecker.com/football/europa-league

You see the odds... It is funny to see them still being the 2nd big favoured team.  Grin  With this game? Really? They haven't even won a match yet and I doubt they will collect so many points with this poor effort.

I don't see them finishing in top 8. Most likely they will advance through playoffs but I wouldn't be surprised if they even have issues while doing it.

It's kinda weird. United's odds barely changed after their poor performances in the opening games. I feel if it's a trap, and i'm so sorry for anyone who has very big expectation toward them. But even calling them to finish in the top 8 is too good to be true. And i doubt they will manage it to enter the R16 play off with their current performance.

They recorded 2 points from 2 matches, 0 GD. They have been performing like they were not a big club. They're too horrific to watch.

It's pretty much the same like last season's narrative.

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October 14, 2024, 12:15:27 AM

Tottenham is one of the teams that is unbeaten in the 2 Europa League matches that have been played, next they will face AZ Alkmaar in the 3rd match of the Europa League this season. Looking at the strength of both teams, it is clear that Tottenham is more favored in this match, but they also cannot underestimate the opponents they will face.
Tottenham will play as the host, this is an advantage for them, they must be able to take advantage of this opportunity as best they can to achieve the best results. They are also one of the teams that have the status of favorites to become champions in the Europa League this season.
legendary
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October 13, 2024, 06:27:14 PM
I think the same with United as I cannot see them approaching an international trophy anytime soon with how bad the team is performing but at this point what is normal at United ? because from my perspective there is pure chaos and Ten Hag will most likely be there until the end of the season and then out of nowhere he will catch another contract...exactly how it was this year.  Grin

Manchester United have 8 match schedules here and 2 matches have been played with a draw well we don't know whether it's a bad record for Manchester United or they will catch up in the remaining 6 matches. Of the 36 teams in this Rode 8 teams will compete for the main ticket to go to the next Rode while 16 other teams will compete through the play off round well maybe Manchester United still have a chance through this play -off round.

Actually for the European League level Manchester United can still compete but they have to get out of this zone I mean the zone is a draw. In the next match Manchester United will face Fenerbahce will they going to draw again or get the first win? well I think the chance is 50:50 except luck is on their side.
legendary
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October 13, 2024, 06:00:04 PM
~snip
Who knew it would be a surprise? This team won't be a clown anymore after getting a spot for such tempting odds.

Maybe I'll also say it's funny why a team in poor form is the second favorite and it's not much different from Spurs, maybe that makes the analysis or the bookies believe Manchester United can go all the way without going through the play offs.

Arhh we're not so sure about this team, they're bound to lose again and go home early in the Europa League.
If Ten Hag can incredibly change and improve Manchester United's performance in the Europa League, then perhaps the odds given to them are much lower. But Manchester United is unlikely to be among the favorites to win the Europa League title, so odds above 7 don't mean much. Who would want to pick Manchester United to win the Europa League if the performance is like now, even someone with $ 10 will probably think 3 times before making a bet.

Several top teams from La Liga such as Bilbao can still be taken into account, but their performance in the last two matches is a bit doubtful. But there are still a lot of games to be played by each team and they can all still change. Representatives from Serie A and the Premier League are certainly strong, but representatives from La Liga probably cannot be underestimated.

I think the same with United as I cannot see them approaching an international trophy anytime soon with how bad the team is performing but at this point what is normal at United ? because from my perspective there is pure chaos and Ten Hag will most likely be there until the end of the season and then out of nowhere he will catch another contract...exactly how it was this year.  Grin
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October 13, 2024, 05:11:30 PM
As for the Manchester United topic, I'm not going to talk too much. I just don't see them that powerful to be favoured like they are one of the closest teams to win the Europa League title. It is that simple to me.


Source: https://www.oddschecker.com/football/europa-league

You see the odds... It is funny to see them still being the 2nd big favoured team.  Grin  With this game? Really? They haven't even won a match yet and I doubt they will collect so many points with this poor effort.

I don't see them finishing in top 8. Most likely they will advance through playoffs but I wouldn't be surprised if they even have issues while doing it.
Correct me if i am wrong that UEFA has coefficient system for every participant teams from the current competitions and from this system they will be determined which team will being an the first favourite for every competitions just like Champion league or Europa league so from this factor this season UEFA has decide to putting Manchester United as the favourite this because their coefficient points is much better compared to other teams in this competition but this status won't make Manchester United automatically as the strongest team in Europa league even their performance were dissapointing because Manchester United only can collect 2 points from 2 matches

There are still 6 matches remaining and if want to qualified to round of 16 then Manchester United should be able at least to win 4 times from 6 matches and actually Manchester United upcoming opponents is not too strong so as long as they can improved their performance then there is still a chance for them to finish in the top 8 and about the odds indeed besides Manchester United i was surprised to see Tottenham can being an the first favourite for this season especially they have no good history on Europa league even i highly doubt Tottenham can able to reach to the final match because in my opinion they don't have champion mentality
legendary
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October 13, 2024, 04:23:04 PM
~snip
Who knew it would be a surprise? This team won't be a clown anymore after getting a spot for such tempting odds.

Maybe I'll also say it's funny why a team in poor form is the second favorite and it's not much different from Spurs, maybe that makes the analysis or the bookies believe Manchester United can go all the way without going through the play offs.

Arhh we're not so sure about this team, they're bound to lose again and go home early in the Europa League.
If Ten Hag can incredibly change and improve Manchester United's performance in the Europa League, then perhaps the odds given to them are much lower. But Manchester United is unlikely to be among the favorites to win the Europa League title, so odds above 7 don't mean much. Who would want to pick Manchester United to win the Europa League if the performance is like now, even someone with $ 10 will probably think 3 times before making a bet.

Several top teams from La Liga such as Bilbao can still be taken into account, but their performance in the last two matches is a bit doubtful. But there are still a lot of games to be played by each team and they can all still change. Representatives from Serie A and the Premier League are certainly strong, but representatives from La Liga probably cannot be underestimated.
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October 13, 2024, 04:19:52 PM

The point is, there are no players who deliberately play just to lose or are desperate or pessimistic, they are professional players with big paychecks and also their careers and good names are certainly a big responsibility to remain good. Thus, it makes no sense when you say players are not  motivated to win, because in every match there will always be a winning team and a losing team. If you think when the team loses andthe players are  not motivated to win, I think that is a wrong assumption because it is difficult to be the best above the best. So, in the case of Manchester United  basically it must have the right coach, of course, to be able to maximize the potential of every player in the squad,  not just keep buying players but the results remain poor.

I’m not saying this is what is happening in Manchester United neither am I giving an excuse for Ten Hag but there have been cases where players try to force a managerial change by deliberately underperforming and losing important games. They know the manager is the one who is going to get the horn. It happened to Jose Mourinho during his second spell at Chelsea. And it worked for them because Roman Abramovich sacked Mourinho later that season. It is difficult for a manager when the entire locker room is against you.
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October 13, 2024, 03:52:06 PM
As for the Manchester United topic, I'm not going to talk too much. I just don't see them that powerful to be favoured like they are one of the closest teams to win the Europa League title. It is that simple to me.


Source: https://www.oddschecker.com/football/europa-league

You see the odds... It is funny to see them still being the 2nd big favoured team.  Grin  With this game? Really? They haven't even won a match yet and I doubt they will collect so many points with this poor effort.

I don't see them finishing in top 8. Most likely they will advance through playoffs but I wouldn't be surprised if they even have issues while doing it.
Who knew it would be a surprise? This team won't be a clown anymore after getting a spot for such tempting odds.

Maybe I'll also say it's funny why a team in poor form is the second favorite and it's not much different from Spurs, maybe that makes the analysis or the bookies believe Manchester United can go all the way without going through the play offs.

Arhh we're not so sure about this team, they're bound to lose again and go home early in the Europa League.
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October 13, 2024, 03:39:51 PM
As for the Manchester United topic, I'm not going to talk too much. I just don't see them that powerful to be favoured like they are one of the closest teams to win the Europa League title. It is that simple to me.


Source: https://www.oddschecker.com/football/europa-league

You see the odds... It is funny to see them still being the 2nd big favoured team.  Grin  With this game? Really? They haven't even won a match yet and I doubt they will collect so many points with this poor effort.

I don't see them finishing in top 8. Most likely they will advance through playoffs but I wouldn't be surprised if they even have issues while doing it.
Well just like you have already stated most rightly i think it will be okay too to not want to delve too deep into the issues of Manchester united because at some point its beginning to sound like an over stretched one at this point and so it feels more reasonable to go ahead to talk about others who are on the table with their own probability of wining the Europa trophy by the end of the season. Tottenham rightly anticipated to have the most chance though not been doing bad in the Europa but so far in their domestic league they aren't impressive enough so i feel to think they may get their psychology affected and may not be bale to get their best at the Europa except with an extra determination.
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October 13, 2024, 02:57:45 PM
I agree with Rockstarguy and say the problem is the manager. Yes, the players also are not helping matters because they play like they are unmotivated and do not like they want to win for their club but what can they do when the coach’s tactics is not working. You can’t blame the players and not hold Ten Hag responsible because it was Erik Ten Hag that assembled this team, Ten Hag spent £560million on new players. If anyone should be blamed, it should be the manager that bought the players. I believe the players in the squad are good individually, it is the mentality in the club that is wrong.


I'm not sure if you know challenging it is for players if they are not winning matches despite putting effort in all you do. There is going to be pressure from the manager because he will think the players are at fault, the club will be on you guys head, the fans will be coming with different agitation and anger and the players reputations is also on the line because you will not be recognized for that season and that's not what any player dream of at the start of the season.

If everyone is seeing Erik as the failure but the team can't do anything about it then I think it's pointless for the fans and the players to be complain. If the team has not been bribe or something is going on their head, I'm very positive that by the end of this season, that guy will leave Manchester United, this is not even about if they will win or not but I'm sure they will definitely fire him and retract the contract so everyone can be happy.

The point is, there are no players who deliberately play just to lose or are desperate or pessimistic, they are professional players with big paychecks and also their careers and good names are certainly a big responsibility to remain good. Thus, it makes no sense when you say players are not  motivated to win, because in every match there will always be a winning team and a losing team. If you think when the team loses andthe players are  not motivated to win, I think that is a wrong assumption because it is difficult to be the best above the best. So, in the case of Manchester United  basically it must have the right coach, of course, to be able to maximize the potential of every player in the squad,  not just keep buying players but the results remain poor.
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October 13, 2024, 02:51:54 PM
As for the Manchester United topic, I'm not going to talk too much. I just don't see them that powerful to be favoured like they are one of the closest teams to win the Europa League title. It is that simple to me.


Source: https://www.oddschecker.com/football/europa-league

You see the odds... It is funny to see them still being the 2nd big favoured team.  Grin  With this game? Really? They haven't even won a match yet and I doubt they will collect so many points with this poor effort.

I don't see them finishing in top 8. Most likely they will advance through playoffs but I wouldn't be surprised if they even have issues while doing it.
Manchester United doesn't look like a serious team to be among the favorites to win the Europa League, but the name alone is something just that Ten Hag is trying to fade the name Manchester United, if not if Manchester United is in its best form, they will remain the favorites not even the second favorites to win Europa League.

Manchester United can still bounce back especially in the Europa League because the critics alone will make the players play to their standard despite the coach influence in their performance; I am among people that believe that Manchester United can make it in the Europa League unless if Ten Hag didn't do well because Manchester United's performance is going down because of their coach's team selection.

Tottenham on the other hand look like a team that can do better this season, they have good team and the coach has learn from his last season's mistakes, and he can do well to lead the team to win something this season even though winning the Europa League might be difficult for them.
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