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January 09, 2025, 02:01:30 PM
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Amorim just needs time but he shouldn't be given the room to abuse it just like Ten Hag did. If Manchester United must grow again as a team they need then Amorim should pay very close attention to the strength of his squad. Note down which player suits a position better, which one can come in as substitute and as well as players he feels he won't be needing.

The goal is to win the Europa and this won't be achievable with the inconsistency been displayed by United. The team doesn't deserve petting they should have rigorous trainings and so they can boost their confidence and return back to their winning streak
 Secondly the team need to understand themselves especially on the pitch.

Amorim really needs time before he can be able to strengthen the squad they want Manchester United to be. Because this team has been facing hard times from previous seasons, it will not be an easy task for Amorim, but with the way things are going now, he will actually try his possible best to get this team back with strength, although on a normal day, if the new manager comes in, he really needs time before he will be able to deliver the kind of result he expected to deliver, so I think Amorim needs time to make the possible changes to make things better for Manchester United.
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January 09, 2025, 01:50:12 PM
It is also because we have seen how United changed coaches in a certain period of time and it is still considered inappropriate. The changes made are on average in a short time, and they hope United returns to the performance shown when held by SAF.
Amorim will need time to form his team. We have seen several players ready to be released which means they are not included in Amorim's plans. Now we will see who United brings in to make changes.

Amorim just needs time but he shouldn't be given the room to abuse it just like Ten Hag did. If Manchester United must grow again as a team they need then Amorim should pay very close attention to the strength of his squad. Note down which player suits a position better, which one can come in as substitute and as well as players he feels he won't be needing.

The goal is to win the Europa and this won't be achievable with the inconsistency been displayed by United. The team doesn't deserve petting they should have rigorous trainings and so they can boost their confidence and return back to their winning streak
 Secondly the team need to understand themselves especially on the pitch.
I believe Amorim knows how to make substitute on where there's laxity or weaknesses on the pitch. I could remember during Liverpool match, after Liverpool equalized the goal, Amorim immediately brought out Mainoo and put in Gnarcho to strengthen the attack force, and it worked. I don't have much doubt on Amorim capabilities because I know he has the potentials in him.
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January 09, 2025, 01:19:07 PM
Ajax and Galatasaray can also be counted among these teams. I think the biggest teams among the Europa League teams are the 6 teams we mentioned. In my opinion, one of the finalists will be Lazio. The other finalist may change depending on the eliminations. Manchester United or Tottenham can be said to be two strong teams in this regard. Of course, we should not forget the Spanish representative Athletic Bilbao.
Well I even see Galatasaray at this point as a preferred choice over Ajax, until Ajax is able to be consistent enough having  a definite pattern around their scheme of play, I  will not regard them as a top contending the europa this season,  they have been trying but without a said pattern and that in it self is flawed, Manchester United have simular case but some how he could manage to build  some optimism with them and hopefully they don't dissapoint, my most confidence is still with the spurs, they have a better chance and are .most likely going  to win except they allow last season repeat itself.
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January 09, 2025, 12:47:46 PM
It is also because we have seen how United changed coaches in a certain period of time and it is still considered inappropriate. The changes made are on average in a short time, and they hope United returns to the performance shown when held by SAF.
Amorim will need time to form his team. We have seen several players ready to be released which means they are not included in Amorim's plans. Now we will see who United brings in to make changes.

Amorim just needs time but he shouldn't be given the room to abuse it just like Ten Hag did. If Manchester United must grow again as a team they need then Amorim should pay very close attention to the strength of his squad. Note down which player suits a position better, which one can come in as substitute and as well as players he feels he won't be needing.

The goal is to win the Europa and this won't be achievable with the inconsistency been displayed by United. The team doesn't deserve petting they should have rigorous trainings and so they can boost their confidence and return back to their winning streak
 Secondly the team need to understand themselves especially on the pitch.
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January 09, 2025, 12:42:05 PM
Ajax and Galatasaray may be the dark horses in this competition, they must be watched out for because they can give a surprise at any time. It's a bit difficult to make a choice this time, but based on their performance so far, Lazio are very likely to be one of the finalists. Tottenham and MU have yet to maintain their consistent performance, but Athletic Club is still far from expectations, especially as they have just lost to Barcelona in the Super Cup.
Based on the conditions that have been seen from the several teams you mentioned, it is indeed quite reasonable to be wary of Ajax and Galatasaray in this competition, because even though there is still a possibility for several of these teams to get better changes in the rest of this season, Ajax and Galatasaray are two teams that do have more surprising tactics so teams like Lazio and several others should not underestimate Ajax and Galatasaray in the Europa League this season.

Compared to Galatasaray and Ajax, it seems that the ones to watch out for are Eintracht Frankfurt and maybe Anderlecht. Because, so far Anderlecht are also unbeaten and of course, that is an impressive result for a team like Anderlecht who were previously not considered to be candidates for the title. Also, there is still Lyon who certainly  cannot be underestimated at all and likewise, of course they must keep up their performance to stay good because if not, the teams you mentioned also still have a chance to fail in the Europa League this season.The competition will still be interesting even though some of the seeded teams have not had good results so far, but there are still other  teams who might be able to make a surprise like Anderlecht, maybe.
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January 09, 2025, 12:31:02 PM
I wonder why not more people are looking to teams like Lazio. They had some bad games too, but still look far more stable than Manchester United in my opinion.

They are one of the favorites for sure.
Lazio and Athletic Bilbao are two of the strongest teams in the league. Manchester United and Tottenham didn't perform like them. In the end it's still in group stage so don't come to conclusions easily. As long as they advance to quarter final there will be no problem.
Indeed, Lazio and Bilbao are stable teams in the current title hunt, only conceding a few goals and never losing at all from 6 matches makes them occupy the top position in the standings, they are certain to enter the next phase, but Tottenham and Man Utd also cannot be ruled out just like that. These 4 teams are strong candidates, I agree that for now we should not rush to guess, the journey is still long and consistency is needed here, but I hope there will be a surprise from another team to make the European league more interesting.
It seems that this Italian club is really focused on the Europa League rather than Serie A, even though they lost in the Serie A match, but in the Europa League they are really consistent with Bilbao, both have the same points, namely 16 points, but only a few differences make Lazio at the top of the Europa League standings, Tottenham and Man United are still relatively safe, but Anderlecht and Galatasaray must be aware that they can displace Lazio and Bilbao, Lyon and Eintracht Frankfrut are also likely to be able to compete with other big clubs.
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January 09, 2025, 12:28:33 PM
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Yes, a team like Manchester United should be able to beat both teams which can be said to be small clubs, but what makes me doubt Man United is that sometimes their performance is erratic, sometimes good and sometimes their performance is very bad, so their good performance against Liverpool actually cannot be used as a reference it will remain the same.
However, I really hope that Man United can advance further in the UEL when they have qualified for the last 16, the challenges will be even greater and the possibility of their opponents will be even more difficult.
Manchester United has the best chance of qualifying for the next round and the final this season. I also doubt them because of the inconsistency of their performance, but I have to see the positive side that they have tried to perform better from game to game. The match against Liverpool is just one reference where I believe in the abilities of the Manchester United players, but to maintain a performance like that, each player must support and complement each other.

Maybe it's time for Manchester United to improve itself and its reputation, which is no longer so glorified. They have a number of quality players and that is the main asset to rise from adversity. I give Amorim confidence from doubt that he should be able to improve and improve the quality of Manchester United's game both in defense and in building attacks.
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January 09, 2025, 12:22:43 PM
Ajax and Galatasaray may be the dark horses in this competition, they must be watched out for because they can give a surprise at any time. It's a bit difficult to make a choice this time, but based on their performance so far, Lazio are very likely to be one of the finalists. Tottenham and MU have yet to maintain their consistent performance, but Athletic Club is still far from expectations, especially as they have just lost to Barcelona in the Super Cup.
Based on the conditions that have been seen from the several teams you mentioned, it is indeed quite reasonable to be wary of Ajax and Galatasaray in this competition, because even though there is still a possibility for several of these teams to get better changes in the rest of this season, Ajax and Galatasaray are two teams that do have more surprising tactics so teams like Lazio and several others should not underestimate Ajax and Galatasaray in the Europa League this season.
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January 09, 2025, 12:14:16 PM
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Don't use Manchester United performance in derby to conclude that they're beginning to pick from as they'll disappoint you. Isn't this the same Manchester United that won Manchester city in the last cup finals that both clubs played and some individuals began to think that the old Manchester United are back but immediately the season started, they began to flop from where they stopped last season. Manchester United can still win the Europa club as they're meant to do that as there isn't many teams that should be giving them much trouble since they're the biggest there but they won't instead they'll drop out of the tournament faster than many of us would have predicted.
Making an assessment should look at how the team condition is and what their game is like in all the matches from various competitions that are followed during one season, derby match sometimes give surprising results with weaker team managing to win and as you have said about last season FA Cup final Manchester United victory over Manchester City.
Currently, I admit that Manchester United is still very likely to play well here in the Europa League and they have very big chance to enter the last 16 and even qualify for the next round such as the quarter-finals or even the semifinals if there is consistent good performance quality.
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January 09, 2025, 12:13:01 PM
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It is also because we have seen how United changed coaches in a certain period of time and it is still considered inappropriate. The changes made are on average in a short time, and they hope United returns to the performance shown when held by SAF.
Amorim will need time to form his team. We have seen several players ready to be released which means they are not included in Amorim's plans. Now we will see who United brings in to make changes.
After Sir Alex Ferguson left, Manchester United has not found a figure who can be trusted or at least can show a good process. There is a new coach coming, the fans are excited and hope their coach can bring glory again, but a few moments later it turns out that the coach did not provide a good game and ended with dismissal, that's the cycle that Manchester United always experiences. However, it should also be remembered that SAF needs at least 3/4 years to be able to show a very good game. But the difference is that SAF can provide a good process, so that is a consideration for management to be patient.
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January 09, 2025, 11:48:30 AM
It is also because we have seen how United changed coaches in a certain period of time and it is still considered inappropriate. The changes made are on average in a short time, and they hope United returns to the performance shown when held by SAF.
Amorim will need time to form his team. We have seen several players ready to be released which means they are not included in Amorim's plans. Now we will see who United brings in to make changes.
I don't think the coach is the main problem for Manchester United in recent times, more precisely the departure of Sir Alex Ferguson. Because the role of management also greatly influences the appearance of a club, and I see that management also has internal problems that greatly impact Manchester United as a whole. Maybe we can remember some time ago there was a commotion because Ronaldo appeared in an interview and during the interview he also said several points that also contained about management that could be said to not work well. So I think what Ronaldo said was based on what he saw and experienced, because he must have also compared it to the era when he was young.
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January 09, 2025, 11:48:10 AM
The two teams that Manchester United will play against in the next two matches are not stronger than Manchester United, so if Manchester United can perform as well as they did in the last Premier League match in the last two Europa League matches, they will surely get full points in those two matches.

Since Manchester United is a big team in the European League, they need to perform like that to ensure the next round. If Manchester United secure the next round, the pressure will increase on them and they will hope to perform better in the Super Sixteen with tough pressure. Even if United don't win the Europa League title this season, I'd like to at least see this team in the semi-finals or the final. Even if they qualify for the semi-finals or finals, I'd say they've performed to their credit.
Yes, a team like Manchester United should be able to beat both teams which can be said to be small clubs, but what makes me doubt Man United is that sometimes their performance is erratic, sometimes good and sometimes their performance is very bad, so their good performance against Liverpool actually cannot be used as a reference it will remain the same.
However, I really hope that Man United can advance further in the UEL when they have qualified for the last 16, the challenges will be even greater and the possibility of their opponents will be even more difficult.
"Should" isn't always the same as "will", they should but they also lost points to teams that aren't that good neither. However, I feel as if they could win these both games, and they could get good enough points to maybe even be in the top eight, that will be a good indicator that they may do fine this season. Of course this isn't a simple thing because even if they do that, they still have to play last sixteen, then quarter finals, then semi finals, and a final game.

All of these are a lot of games and they may lose any of them and leave, that's why it's very important that they end up doing better rest of the season as well. They should seriously consider about some additions to the team this transfer window, they are considering many deals but haven't done any, if they want to win this title then they need to do some transfers before it's too late.
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January 09, 2025, 11:47:39 AM
Ajax and Galatasaray can also be counted among these teams. I think the biggest teams among the Europa League teams are the 6 teams we mentioned. In my opinion, one of the finalists will be Lazio. The other finalist may change depending on the eliminations. Manchester United or Tottenham can be said to be two strong teams in this regard. Of course, we should not forget the Spanish representative Athletic Bilbao.
Ajax and Galatasaray may be the dark horses in this competition, they must be watched out for because they can give a surprise at any time. It's a bit difficult to make a choice this time, but based on their performance so far, Lazio are very likely to be one of the finalists. Tottenham and MU have yet to maintain their consistent performance, but Athletic Club is still far from expectations, especially as they have just lost to Barcelona in the Super Cup.
Some of the teams in the UEL in my opinion have the potential to be able to win the trophy, some of us see the teams that are performing well and consistently at this time in the semi league phase as strong candidates to become champions such as Lazio, Bilbao and also Galatasaray, but I think we actually cannot underestimate other teams that are currently struggling to qualify through the play offs, because from the experience that has existed in the UEL, there are many dark horse teams that are able to surprise us like as when Atalanta was underestimated last season, Olympiacos who last season managed to win the conference league by beating the favourite teams, aren't they also likely to surprise us in the UEL this season even though they are struggling to qualify for the last 16 at the moment?
Roma, who were finalists  last two seasons ago, should we forget them too?
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January 09, 2025, 09:44:50 AM

If Amorim is allowed to build his team better and of course seeing the current situation in the United team it will certainly take quite a long time, surely he will succeed in making United experience good development. At least he has to make United not too bad at the moment. His arrival clearly brings a lot of hope to improve United's performance in a short time. But everyone knows, that even if Amorim is a wizard, he can't change this team to be extraordinary in a short time. Hopefully, the fans are patient and the club doesn't give such high targets for this season.
Since the arrival of Amorim, one thing i have always advocated for him has been time but the fact that he met the team in a serious mess it turns out a good reason for people to make the expectations of him high and very quick already because almost everyone can not wait to se Manchester united back to their wining ways and seeing the team becoming a very top contender in the English league and across Europa this season and beyond and to get this kind of result, they need to actually give Amorim ample time to get the team in Oder and fixed such that all of the expected results will be made accomplished.

It is also because we have seen how United changed coaches in a certain period of time and it is still considered inappropriate. The changes made are on average in a short time, and they hope United returns to the performance shown when held by SAF.
Amorim will need time to form his team. We have seen several players ready to be released which means they are not included in Amorim's plans. Now we will see who United brings in to make changes.
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January 09, 2025, 08:12:39 AM
Indeed, Lazio and Bilbao are stable teams in the current title hunt, only conceding a few goals and never losing at all from 6 matches makes them occupy the top position in the standings, they are certain to enter the next phase, but Tottenham and Man Utd also cannot be ruled out just like that. These 4 teams are strong candidates, I agree that for now we should not rush to guess, the journey is still long and consistency is needed here, but I hope there will be a surprise from another team to make the European league more interesting.
It cannot be denied that Lazio is the strongest team in the European league, it has been proven that Lazio is currently capable of being at the top of the standings in this competition. So it is certain that getting through to the next round will not be difficult for Lazio. Likewise with Bilbao, this team is also surprisingly able to be in second place at the moment. Therefore, these two teams are indeed strong candidates to be able to continue to qualify for the next rounds easily. Whether it's the top 16, top 8 or semifinals. Then talking about Manchester United and Tottenham, these two teams also have quite a lot of potential to be able to go further in the European league. Because these two teams will definitely be very focused in the European league. Because in their respective domestic leagues, there is no longer much hope of being able to break into the top 4 or top 5 positions. Therefore, these two teams will definitely focus on the European league to the maximum.

But apart from these four teams, don't forget Anderlecht and Lyon. Because these two teams currently have quite good performance in the European league. Because these two teams are able to be in the top 4 positions at this time. So we also have to admit that we really have to take into account the performance of these two teams more than Manchester United or Tottenham. Because the teams that can enter the top 4 in the European league are of course the best teams among the other teams taking part in the European league competition.
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January 09, 2025, 04:25:41 AM
I am sure that Man United will qualify directly for the last 16 without having to go through the play off because the clubs they will face in the next 2 matches are FCSB and Rangers if you look at the chances Man United is superior to both teams and if Man United can play the same match as when they faced Liverpool at Anfield then Man United can win I still have confidence that actually Man United is still quite strong this season it's just that Amorim has not been able to make his team more stable in playing the match.
The two teams that Manchester United will play against in the next two matches are not stronger than Manchester United, so if Manchester United can perform as well as they did in the last Premier League match in the last two Europa League matches, they will surely get full points in those two matches.

Since Manchester United is a big team in the European League, they need to perform like that to ensure the next round. If Manchester United secure the next round, the pressure will increase on them and they will hope to perform better in the Super Sixteen with tough pressure. Even if United don't win the Europa League title this season, I'd like to at least see this team in the semi-finals or the final. Even if they qualify for the semi-finals or finals, I'd say they've performed to their credit.
Yes, a team like Manchester United should be able to beat both teams which can be said to be small clubs, but what makes me doubt Man United is that sometimes their performance is erratic, sometimes good and sometimes their performance is very bad, so their good performance against Liverpool actually cannot be used as a reference it will remain the same.
However, I really hope that Man United can advance further in the UEL when they have qualified for the last 16, the challenges will be even greater and the possibility of their opponents will be even more difficult.
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January 09, 2025, 02:39:12 AM
Winning their next two Europa League matches is possible because the opponents are not too good; and at the same time, their performance against Liverpool was hell superb, but we can’t judge by just one match.
Nevertheless, the Tottenham I am seeing among the top challengers are not doing well this days, therefore, Manchester United can be the top favorites if they can win their next two matches.

Don't use Manchester United performance in derby to conclude that they're beginning to pick from as they'll disappoint you. Isn't this the same Manchester United that won Manchester city in the last cup finals that both clubs played and some individuals began to think that the old Manchester United are back but immediately the season started, they began to flop from where they stopped last season. Manchester United can still win the Europa club as they're meant to do that as there isn't many teams that should be giving them much trouble since they're the biggest there but they won't instead they'll drop out of the tournament faster than many of us would have predicted.
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January 09, 2025, 01:15:44 AM
Ajax and Galatasaray can also be counted among these teams. I think the biggest teams among the Europa League teams are the 6 teams we mentioned. In my opinion, one of the finalists will be Lazio. The other finalist may change depending on the eliminations. Manchester United or Tottenham can be said to be two strong teams in this regard. Of course, we should not forget the Spanish representative Athletic Bilbao.
Ajax and Galatasaray may be the dark horses in this competition, they must be watched out for because they can give a surprise at any time. It's a bit difficult to make a choice this time, but based on their performance so far, Lazio are very likely to be one of the finalists. Tottenham and MU have yet to maintain their consistent performance, but Athletic Club is still far from expectations, especially as they have just lost to Barcelona in the Super Cup.
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January 08, 2025, 10:53:57 PM
Yes, all teams still have a big chance of getting through the group stage. The system applied this year is a little different, giving small teams the opportunity to move forward and be consistent in facing this competition. Manchester United and Tottenham are the favorite teams who are candidates for champions every season, but After going through several matches, both of them seem to be really declining so that the small teams are getting more enthusiastic and the European league is getting more interesting.
After finishing the preliminary round, which team will enter the semi-finals, we can then determine which team will be the candidate as champion.
There are still many things that might happen and at least we have to wait for the group stage to end to see which teams have a chance to reach the semifinals or finals. Tottenham and Manchester United may be the ones to consider, but there are many other strong teams that may have a much greater chance or opportunity to reach the final. Sometimes what is predicted does not go well because the strong team has problems playing and it was the same as last year's final where Atalanta took advantage of the moment to beat Leverkusen who performed so impressively in the Bundesliga.

That is what am seeing ahead of some teams in this competition, because those teams some people think they will get to semi final or final will bring disappointment to their fans at the end, because many small teams are coming up with a strong strength to overtake some teams in this season. Since Manchester United are not yet to be constant in winning in their matches, I don't think they will get to semi final stage, because Tottenham are still showcasing some good performance that will make them to reach final stage. But if you have the experience of the tournament, you can predict in a particular team to win the title and it will come to pass, because you have seen their performance from the beginning of the tournament and their current position in the table, which are some of the keys some people use to consider the team to win the title of the season.
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January 08, 2025, 09:58:50 PM
Yes, all teams still have a big chance of getting through the group stage. The system applied this year is a little different, giving small teams the opportunity to move forward and be consistent in facing this competition. Manchester United and Tottenham are the favorite teams who are candidates for champions every season, but After going through several matches, both of them seem to be really declining so that the small teams are getting more enthusiastic and the European league is getting more interesting.
After finishing the preliminary round, which team will enter the semi-finals, we can then determine which team will be the candidate as champion.
There are still many things that might happen and at least we have to wait for the group stage to end to see which teams have a chance to reach the semifinals or finals. Tottenham and Manchester United may be the ones to consider, but there are many other strong teams that may have a much greater chance or opportunity to reach the final. Sometimes what is predicted does not go well because the strong team has problems playing and it was the same as last year's final where Atalanta took advantage of the moment to beat Leverkusen who performed so impressively in the Bundesliga.
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