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October 12, 2024, 05:30:40 PM

Manchester United have formed a new way of measuring success. Manchester United had a draw against Aston Villa, and the fans were delighted with the result. This is the shambolic state the club is in at the moment, the standards have dropped significantly. The team has consistently demonstrated that they cannot perform under Erik Ten Hag yet Manchester United bosses are backing the manager. The other teams in the Premier League are happy to have Erik Ten Hag as United’s manager.
Except you are going to make some exceptions, then i will agree with you else what you are saying isn't really true enough as it sounds like you are speaking from the view of having an interaction with only a fragment of the whole of Manchester united fans populace as the best i know is that most fans and even non fans are expecting more from them and even wasn't impressed enough with that performance against Aston Villa because Manchester united could do better.
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October 12, 2024, 04:53:05 PM
It's quite right time to let go about the situation at Manchester United, since the management has refused to do the needful, that is parting ways with Ten Hag, and bring in new manager, Manchester united isn't more important to Man Utd fans and supporters than it's to the management board who runs business and owns the clus highest shares, So whenever they feeel or decided to come out of slumber and get the right things done to fix up the united team, then good.
Manchester United have formed a new way of measuring success. Manchester United had a draw against Aston Villa, and the fans were delighted with the result. This is the shambolic state the club is in at the moment, the standards have dropped significantly. The team has consistently demonstrated that they cannot perform under Erik Ten Hag yet Manchester United bosses are backing the manager. The other teams in the Premier League are happy to have Erik Ten Hag as United’s manager.

You can see how bad the team has reduced her glory to the point that her fans get over excited when the team is playing q goal less draw against a small club like Aston Villa. The fans are not to be blamed because they are tired of complaining about the poor performance of Manchurian United but I blame the management of Manchester United who has kept their hope on Erik Ten hag to the point that he seems so comfortable to say a whole lot of shit after losing matches because of the backing he's got in the team. The other teams in the league is very happy because playing against United right now a good team should be able to get an easy 3 points unless the team is unlucky like Aston Villa because Manchester United is getting worse every day in their performance.
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October 12, 2024, 04:43:54 PM
It's quite right time to let go about the situation at Manchester United, since the management has refused to do the needful, that is parting ways with Ten Hag, and bring in new manager, Manchester united isn't more important to Man Utd fans and supporters than it's to the management board who runs business and owns the clus highest shares, So whenever they feeel or decided to come out of slumber and get the right things done to fix up the united team, then good.
Manchester United have formed a new way of measuring success. Manchester United had a draw against Aston Villa, and the fans were delighted with the result. This is the shambolic state the club is in at the moment, the standards have dropped significantly. The team has consistently demonstrated that they cannot perform under Erik Ten Hag yet Manchester United bosses are backing the manager. The other teams in the Premier League are happy to have Erik Ten Hag as United’s manager.

The truth most be told, Manchester United are not performing anything tangible this season and Erik is doing nothing about that, Manchester United performance is getting out of hand because even last season there performance was more better than this season. Which if there is no any good intervention to the team’s performance they will end up losing everything and the manager/coach that will be able to take them to the top again will find it very difficult, and no one will take Manchester United as a strong team anymore.
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October 12, 2024, 04:34:53 PM
Manchester United have formed a new way of measuring success. Manchester United had a draw against Aston Villa, and the fans were delighted with the result. This is the shambolic state the club is in at the moment, the standards have dropped significantly. The team has consistently demonstrated that they cannot perform under Erik Ten Hag yet Manchester United bosses are backing the manager. The other teams in the Premier League are happy to have Erik Ten Hag as United’s manager.
Manchester United's performance has not been satisfactory in the European league because it is very difficult for them to achieve their first victory in the European league. The two matches they played ended in a draw even though the opponents they faced on paper were not that strong but Manchester United could not beat them. Of course all efforts were made by Erik ten Hag to bring Manchester United to victory but he has not succeeded in doing so.

Fenerbahce will be the next opponent that Manchester United will face and I think this is not an easy match considering Manchester United's performance has not developed this season. If they fail to win when facing Fenerbahce, Manchester United could find it difficult to rise from their slump. Considering that the European league is not too tight but in fact Manchester United finds it very difficult to win.
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October 12, 2024, 04:33:31 PM
Fenerbahce cannot be underestimated, they are quite better in the league, and they are drawn by the same team, who drew with Man United in the previous match.

Tbh, I'm not even bothered about Fenerbahce in the Europa league this season. These are the current outright odds for the Europa league on BcGame.



Man Utd might be struggling but they still have a better chance to win against Fenerbahce. ETH is currently in a very hot seat at Man Utd and would try to everything humanly possible to make sure his team doesn't lose. I expect a pretty tight game. I won't be better on it as well unless I see pretty decent odds for over 2.5 booking cards.

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October 12, 2024, 04:25:28 PM
It's quite right time to let go about the situation at Manchester United, since the management has refused to do the needful, that is parting ways with Ten Hag, and bring in new manager, Manchester united isn't more important to Man Utd fans and supporters than it's to the management board who runs business and owns the clus highest shares, So whenever they feeel or decided to come out of slumber and get the right things done to fix up the united team, then good.
Manchester United have formed a new way of measuring success. Manchester United had a draw against Aston Villa, and the fans were delighted with the result. This is the shambolic state the club is in at the moment, the standards have dropped significantly. The team has consistently demonstrated that they cannot perform under Erik Ten Hag yet Manchester United bosses are backing the manager. The other teams in the Premier League are happy to have Erik Ten Hag as United’s manager.
I’m not such about the last information, fans laugh obviously but happy I don’t think so. We all know football match comes with trolls and different opinions but I don’t take that serious, I’m still being honest with my opinion about Manchester United current situation and the fact is most players also contributed to the bad position they’re in. Ten hag should leave or not the players should work on themselves, talking about fans they’re still strong supporting the club I just hope United do better.
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October 12, 2024, 04:05:20 PM
Ten Hag have made the fans to have no option that to be happy with a draw because they're used to defeats. I understand why the management folds their arms doing nothing on sacking Ten Hag because it will cost them a lot, and due to the huge sum of amount that they used in buying players to see how the team will improve, which has not been achieved will make the club lose more funds if he is sacked. Ten Hag contracts will end by the end of this season and that will be the best time to send him away. Manchester United might lose to Fenerbahce because they are not the big club that we use to know anymore, and they lack the creativity to take advantage of their opportunities when they are chanced.
Ten Hag got a one-year contract extension, and it will end in June 2026. On the other hand, we are of the same mind regarding the current condition of Man United, maybe it's time for management to say goodbye to Ten Hag, before their performance plummets. I think Ten Hag will spend more budget if he continues to be maintained, I'm pretty sure he will ask the club top brass to bring in new players again when the transfer window opens. We know the source of Man United current weakness lies in Ten Hag poor tactics, he is considered to have failed to manage the potential of his players.

The Red Devils could not show a different performance in the Europa League, even though the two matches yesterday were relatively easy, but they failed to secure full points. Their next match versus Fenerbahce is difficult to predict, because Man United performance has never been stable. On paper, Man United is indeed worthy of being the favorite, but their reputation this season cannot be trusted, it is too risky to bet on their match. Actually, Man United is highly favored to be the title challenger, but the reality is the opposite, I even think they will have difficulty finishing in the top 8 of the standings to qualify for the round of 16 automatically.
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October 12, 2024, 03:45:53 PM

Fenerbahce cannot be underestimated, they are quite better in the league, and they are drawn by the same team, who drew with Man United in the previous match.

Fenerbahce have been known for their good performances over a long period of time, and they are still maintaining that form, even though it's not as great as it was a few seasons back when they participated in the Champions League. Fenerbahce's performance has even increased recently, and I can say they are in good shape at the moment. With their current form, I don't think any team will underestimate Fenerbahce. If any team were to underestimate them, it could be Manchester United, as their recent performance has been worse. In fact, I would even bet on Fenerbahce to win against Manchester United based on the statistics from this season.

So far, Fenerbahce have played seven matches in their domestic league this season, winning five, drawing one, and losing one. Meanwhile, Manchester United have only won two out of seven matches played in their domestic league , which is quite poor. I’m not saying that Manchester United can’t beat Fenerbahce, but I don't have any confidence in them right now.
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October 12, 2024, 03:39:04 PM
The problem of Manchester United is just the coach , his strategy is not just good for the team and for a very longtime Manchester United have been underperforming and the coach have been giving enough time to try his best to make a change but instead the team is still having the worst performance. It seems to improve the performance of the team is beyond the strength of Ten Hag, it will be better if the management of Manchester United brings a new coach with a better experience.

 The players that Manchester United has are not bad for the team to be in this poor state of performance.  Their are good players in Manchester United and every player would prefer to be in a team that is performing well.
Are we entirely sure it's "just" the coach? I do agree about how Erik Ten Hag has been a terrible coach and he should be fired there is no doubt about this part, I am not saying coach is good, coach is terrible and awful and should have been fired last season let alone this year.

However, do you think if they fire ETH now, and hire someone better, like for example Pep will be leaving City this summer, so somehow they convinced Pep to come to other side of Manchester, which won2t happen but lets just assume this for a moment, you think they will be good right away? They will be better than right now, but they will still underperform compared to how much money they are spending.

This is why I believe their problem isn't "just" the coach. They have a player problem too, they have players who they spent a lot of money on and not performing as well as they should. And they have some positions with more than one option, and some positions with just a single option, so when something happens to that player, they play someone out of position, makes no sense.
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October 12, 2024, 01:47:54 PM
Fenerbahce cannot be underestimated, they are quite better in the league, and they are drawn by the same team, who drew with Man United in the previous match.
How will a team like Manchester United underestimate any club right now? Manchester United should take all their matches seriously, because all they have been getting in most of their matches this season is draws and losses. Manchester United haven’t been able to win any Europa League matches, and I am not really sure if they will be getting a win against Fenerbahce. I am still expecting a draw or a loss in the match for Manchester United, because I will say Fenerbahce are just better than Manchester United, and we can see that they are in a better position.
 
Manchester United played a draw against FC Porto, and Twente, which is currently in 24th and 23rd position on the table, am just thinking about how they will be able to win Fenerbahce, which are in a better position than even Manchester United. Fenerbahce have been able to get a win and a draw, which is not a bad one for them.
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October 12, 2024, 01:35:11 PM
It's quite right time to let go about the situation at Manchester United, since the management has refused to do the needful, that is parting ways with Ten Hag, and bring in new manager, Manchester united isn't more important to Man Utd fans and supporters than it's to the management board who runs business and owns the clus highest shares, So whenever they feeel or decided to come out of slumber and get the right things done to fix up the united team, then good.
Manchester United have formed a new way of measuring success. Manchester United had a draw against Aston Villa, and the fans were delighted with the result. This is the shambolic state the club is in at the moment, the standards have dropped significantly. The team has consistently demonstrated that they cannot perform under Erik Ten Hag yet Manchester United bosses are backing the manager. The other teams in the Premier League are happy to have Erik Ten Hag as United’s manager.
A draw and lose to Manchester United in my opinion is common, no one is proud of that, yes even though Aston Villa is a team that is considered strong but in my opinion it is not worthy of thinking that Man United can have great hope, the next match against Fenerbahce And Man United as a guest for the Europa League match, Fenerbahce cannot be underestimated, they are quite better in the league, and they are drawn by the same team, who drew with Man United in the previous match.
Ten Hag have made the fans to have no option that to be happy with a draw because they're used to defeats. I understand why the management folds their arms doing nothing on sacking Ten Hag because it will cost them a lot, and due to the huge sum of amount that they used in buying players to see how the team will improve, which has not been achieved will make the club lose more funds if he is sacked. Ten Hag contracts will end by the end of this season and that will be the best time to send him away. Manchester United might lose to Fenerbahce because they are not the big club that we use to know anymore, and they lack the creativity to take advantage of their opportunities when they are chanced.
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October 12, 2024, 01:29:13 PM
It's quite right time to let go about the situation at Manchester United, since the management has refused to do the needful, that is parting ways with Ten Hag, and bring in new manager, Manchester united isn't more important to Man Utd fans and supporters than it's to the management board who runs business and owns the clus highest shares, So whenever they feeel or decided to come out of slumber and get the right things done to fix up the united team, then good.
Manchester United have formed a new way of measuring success. Manchester United had a draw against Aston Villa, and the fans were delighted with the result. This is the shambolic state the club is in at the moment, the standards have dropped significantly. The team has consistently demonstrated that they cannot perform under Erik Ten Hag yet Manchester United bosses are backing the manager. The other teams in the Premier League are happy to have Erik Ten Hag as United’s manager.
This goes a long way to justify my claims about some elite clubs that have declined too badly to the extent that they are more or less a mediocre club and I say this with all sense of respect to anyone involved, but it is what it is. The club has been taking a nose dive for several years now and all the management team could do was to throw their weight behind the coach, affirming their support for him. Sometimes I wonder how the fans manage to come back to stadium whenever they get a bad result, I can feel their frustration and I wish things will soon turnout better for the club as it were in the era of sir Alex Ferguson.
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October 12, 2024, 01:24:35 PM
Manchester United really don't know what they are doing. They can't even shift their focus to a specific competition at least to be more successful. This is pretty bad.  Sad

I mean they are already terrible in the PL. I would like to see them strong in the EL at least but there is no such thing so far as they got 2 draws also. Where are they going like this?

Jim Ratcliffe didn't want to part ways with Erik ten Hag yet. This has technically quite bad signals for them taking their performance into account. But I hope he proves me wrong somehow.

Because before this Europa League started that there were many people who predicted good results for Manchester United, or they had high hopes for Manchester United in the Europa League. But in reality, the results are bad and thus of course there are many people who are disappointed in Manchester United at this moment. But for me personally, that I don't really mind or regret about the not optimal results that Manchester United have in this Europa League. Because from the beginning I also did not really expect Manchester United even though indeed, at least Manchester United had a chance to be at the top of the Europa League standings, but the reality was still not  as easy as imagined.
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October 12, 2024, 01:21:12 PM
It's quite right time to let go about the situation at Manchester United, since the management has refused to do the needful, that is parting ways with Ten Hag, and bring in new manager, Manchester united isn't more important to Man Utd fans and supporters than it's to the management board who runs business and owns the clus highest shares, So whenever they feeel or decided to come out of slumber and get the right things done to fix up the united team, then good.
Manchester United have formed a new way of measuring success. Manchester United had a draw against Aston Villa, and the fans were delighted with the result. This is the shambolic state the club is in at the moment, the standards have dropped significantly. The team has consistently demonstrated that they cannot perform under Erik Ten Hag yet Manchester United bosses are backing the manager. The other teams in the Premier League are happy to have Erik Ten Hag as United’s manager.
The fans of Manchester United were excited with a draw they got from Aston Villa because they actually expected a loss on the match. Recur that Manchester United have not been very fortunate this season as they have lost majority of their matches. This makes Aston Villa a favourite team to win in that match. Most people actually bet Aston Villa to win, so a draw was a great result for them. I was even surprised that Manchested United was able to draw that match.
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October 12, 2024, 01:09:12 PM
It's quite right time to let go about the situation at Manchester United, since the management has refused to do the needful, that is parting ways with Ten Hag, and bring in new manager, Manchester united isn't more important to Man Utd fans and supporters than it's to the management board who runs business and owns the clus highest shares, So whenever they feeel or decided to come out of slumber and get the right things done to fix up the united team, then good.
Manchester United have formed a new way of measuring success. Manchester United had a draw against Aston Villa, and the fans were delighted with the result. This is the shambolic state the club is in at the moment, the standards have dropped significantly. The team has consistently demonstrated that they cannot perform under Erik Ten Hag yet Manchester United bosses are backing the manager. The other teams in the Premier League are happy to have Erik Ten Hag as United’s manager.
A draw and lose to Manchester United in my opinion is common, no one is proud of that, yes even though Aston Villa is a team that is considered strong but in my opinion it is not worthy of thinking that Man United can have great hope, the next match against Fenerbahce And Man United as a guest for the Europa League match, Fenerbahce cannot be underestimated, they are quite better in the league, and they are drawn by the same team, who drew with Man United in the previous match.
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October 12, 2024, 12:45:35 PM
It's quite right time to let go about the situation at Manchester United, since the management has refused to do the needful, that is parting ways with Ten Hag, and bring in new manager, Manchester united isn't more important to Man Utd fans and supporters than it's to the management board who runs business and owns the clus highest shares, So whenever they feeel or decided to come out of slumber and get the right things done to fix up the united team, then good.
Manchester United have formed a new way of measuring success. Manchester United had a draw against Aston Villa, and the fans were delighted with the result. This is the shambolic state the club is in at the moment, the standards have dropped significantly. The team has consistently demonstrated that they cannot perform under Erik Ten Hag yet Manchester United bosses are backing the manager. The other teams in the Premier League are happy to have Erik Ten Hag as United’s manager.
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October 12, 2024, 12:25:33 PM
Previously I had expected Manchester United to have difficulties in the Europa League after their inconsistent performance last season, they were only able to finish in 8th position in the EPL standings and qualified for the EUL through a special route after winning the FA Cup. The draws against Twente and Porto strengthen the assumption that they will have great difficulty in qualifying for the next round, even if they can do it, it will have to be through the play-offs. There are still six matches left to be played, the potential to collect points is still wide open but not a guarantee because their performance has not shown any signs of improvement.
After what they did in the transfer market this season, of course fans have high hopes to see the revival of Manchester United, but it turns out that what they expect is not in accordance with existing expectations, Manchester United's current poor performance is clearly a question for us about what is really wrong with them?
In the EPL, they have only won twice, drawn twice, and lost three so that they are the only big team outside the top 10, while in the Europa League, they have also not shown satisfactory performance with draws against FC Twente and FC Porto, but their chances of qualifying for the next round are still there at the moment considering the easy opponents they face in the next match.  
Criticism of Erik Ten Hag has indeed arisen a lot mainly because of the high expectations that fans expect, however, There is nothing fans can do at the moment other than just accept the decision of the management who still believe in Ten Hag, let's see if the management trust in Ten Hag at the moment will  make rise on their achievements at the end of the season or instead we do have to label Manchester later as a team mediocre.

While he may look like he won most of his games, when you are spending this much money to build a team, you do expect your team to have at least 70% win rate, meaning they should had 60 games won total if possible. Also when you look at the whole thing you realize things may look great even, but remember his first year was third place, then last season was terrible and this season looks to be terrible as well. Meaning, if you removed the first season, the other two will be terrible.

This is why he is being considered to get sacked, just because he had a good season doesn't mean he should keep his job when he is doing terrible. One of the worst part about United finding a good manager is because they had SIR alex ferguson, that dude has SIR title, he was amazing, so whoever follows him ends up being bad.
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October 12, 2024, 09:11:18 AM
Manchester United really don't know what they are doing. They can't even shift their focus to a specific competition at least to be more successful. This is pretty bad.  Sad

I mean they are already terrible in the PL. I would like to see them strong in the EL at least but there is no such thing so far as they got 2 draws also. Where are they going like this?

Jim Ratcliffe didn't want to part ways with Erik ten Hag yet. This has technically quite bad signals for them taking their performance into account. But I hope he proves me wrong somehow.
It's quite right time to let go about the situation at Manchester United, since the management has refused to do the needful, that is parting ways with Ten Hag, and bring in new manager, Manchester united isn't more important to Man Utd fans and supporters than it's to the management board who runs business and owns the clus highest shares, So whenever they feeel or decided to come out of slumber and get the right things done to fix up the united team, then good.
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October 12, 2024, 08:58:31 AM
Previously I had expected Manchester United to have difficulties in the Europa League after their inconsistent performance last season, they were only able to finish in 8th position in the EPL standings and qualified for the EUL through a special route after winning the FA Cup. The draws against Twente and Porto strengthen the assumption that they will have great difficulty in qualifying for the next round, even if they can do it, it will have to be through the play-offs. There are still six matches left to be played, the potential to collect points is still wide open but not a guarantee because their performance has not shown any signs of improvement.
At this point I wouldn't be surprised if they get a draw or a defeat. Manchester United's form is really bad and it wouldn't be surprising if they don't make it to the next round. It seems like Manchester United have lost their prestige as a top European team. A few decades ago everyone would have been surprised if a team like Twente or Porto got a draw against United. But now a draw seems normal. Porto and some other European league teams are on the same level as Manchester United at the moment.

Talking about their chances of making it to the next round I think United still have a chance to make it but I think they will take the play-offs route. I think the best result they can get is to make it to the round of 16.
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October 12, 2024, 07:44:52 AM
Manchester United really don't know what they are doing. They can't even shift their focus to a specific competition at least to be more successful. This is pretty bad.  Sad

I mean they are already terrible in the PL. I would like to see them strong in the EL at least but there is no such thing so far as they got 2 draws also. Where are they going like this?

Jim Ratcliffe didn't want to part ways with Erik ten Hag yet. This has technically quite bad signals for them taking their performance into account. But I hope he proves me wrong somehow.
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