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Quote from: kawetsriyanto on October 11, 2024, 03:15:50 PM

Indeed. Man United experienced bad season. It is not a kind of challenges, it is serious decline in performance. In EPL, Man United is in 14th place and in Europa league Man United never won a single match. There is nothing that we can expect from Man United in this season. Regarding Ten Hag, there is a rumor that Man board may fire him if there is no change in the next few matches. It means if Man United fails to come back, there is no more chance for Ten Hag to stay in Man United.

Manchester United are just going on a hard time. It is not easy for them any more because there are getting more worst than last season no one expected this poor performance from Manchester United, but just take a look at what they are just displaying both in premier League and Europa League they are not doing anything. I can even consider premier leagues they had atleast 3 win games, but for the Europa League I don’t think they have won any they always go on a draw. Which their poor performance is been attributed to their coach Erik Ten Hag, he is putting less effort on them. I think the best solution for the team will be to sack him, maybe they might be able to do something tangible with a new coach.

Previously I had expected Manchester United to have difficulties in the Europa League after their inconsistent performance last season, they were only able to finish in 8th position in the EPL standings and qualified for the EUL through a special route after winning the FA Cup. The draws against Twente and Porto strengthen the assumption that they will have great difficulty in qualifying for the next round, even if they can do it, it will have to be through the play-offs. There are still six matches left to be played, the potential to collect points is still wide open but not a guarantee because their performance has not shown any signs of improvement.

After what they did in the transfer market this season, of course fans have high hopes to see the revival of Manchester United, but it turns out that what they expect is not in accordance with existing expectations, Manchester United's current poor performance is clearly a question for us about what is really wrong with them?
In the EPL, they have only won twice, drawn twice, and lost three so that they are the only big team outside the top 10, while in the Europa League, they have also not shown satisfactory performance with draws against FC Twente and FC Porto, but their chances of qualifying for the next round are still there at the moment considering the easy opponents they face in the next match.
Criticism of Erik Ten Hag has indeed arisen a lot mainly because of the high expectations that fans expect, however, There is nothing fans can do at the moment other than just accept the decision of the management who still believe in Ten Hag, let's see if the management trust in Ten Hag at the moment will make rise on their achievements at the end of the season or instead we do have to label Manchester later as a team mediocre.

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For Manchester united, their players hasn't been their problem, in fact just to get you understand better, some players have been sold out since Ten Hag arrived Manchester united and this players are doing so well in their new team and the new ones bought who were doing well at their old teams before coming to Manchester united are now declining because they aren't played with the right strategy and the right patterns how they are supposed to be played to be productive enough, their coach has got no good strategy or tactics of play just yet.

Yes, but I don't understand how they can support a Ten Hag who has brought absolutely nothing to the team, they have no qualification for the UCL, they don't win the really important competitions, that is something that is beyond the control of many players, because it is obvious that the players are not to blame, the guilty ones are obviously the coach. Now, how have they kept this coach? Unfortunately, it is very difficult for me to have faith in the MU , and it pains me, because they have a great roster. I think that many players are going to leave, they have to look for a better club because with a coach like that, they burn out their players.

The problem of Manchester United is just the coach , his strategy is not just good for the team and for a very longtime Manchester United have been underperforming and the coach have been giving enough time to try his best to make a change but instead the team is still having the worst performance. It seems to improve the performance of the team is beyond the strength of Ten Hag, it will be better if the management of Manchester United brings a new coach with a better experience.

The players that Manchester United has are not bad for the team to be in this poor state of performance. Their are good players in Manchester United and every player would prefer to be in a team that is performing well.

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Quote from: len01 on October 11, 2024, 11:50:14 PM

This season is underway and has just entered the 7th match, with 31 more matches remaining. And Man United achieved 2 wins, 2 draws, and 3 losses. It's actually not that bad, but the view for football fans looks unimpressive. However, as football fans, we must also remember that this is just the beginning of the season and there are still many unexpected surprises to come. Man United still has plenty of opportunities to keep striving for more consistency and prove that all those negative thoughts are just temporary.

Next week we will see Manchester United's performance against Brentford and this is an opportunity for Ten Hag to motivate the players to bring home 3 points. Manchester United will play at home and logically, MU has a greater chance of defeating Brentford.

I understand what you are saying, but the problem is that they experience the same results since last season. Maybe some fans won't be angry to see them play badly at the start of the season when last season they were able to show a very good game, but what happened was not like that, they continued the negative results from last season.
And if we look at their game, their game is nothing special. Maybe if they have a very good game, many people will consider the negative results they get to be unlucky. On the other hand, now I especially see what they got at the start of the season as something decent because just looking at their game they weren't that good.

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Indeed. Man United experienced bad season. It is not a kind of challenges, it is serious decline in performance. In EPL, Man United is in 14th place and in Europa league Man United never won a single match. There is nothing that we can expect from Man United in this season. Regarding Ten Hag, there is a rumor that Man board may fire him if there is no change in the next few matches. It means if Man United fails to come back, there is no more chance for Ten Hag to stay in Man United.

Manchester United are just going on a hard time. It is not easy for them any more because there are getting more worst than last season no one expected this poor performance from Manchester United, but just take a look at what they are just displaying both in premier League and Europa League they are not doing anything. I can even consider premier leagues they had atleast 3 win games, but for the Europa League I don’t think they have won any they always go on a draw. Which their poor performance is been attributed to their coach Erik Ten Hag, he is putting less effort on them. I think the best solution for the team will be to sack him, maybe they might be able to do something tangible with a new coach.

Previously I had expected Manchester United to have difficulties in the Europa League after their inconsistent performance last season, they were only able to finish in 8th position in the EPL standings and qualified for the EUL through a special route after winning the FA Cup. The draws against Twente and Porto strengthen the assumption that they will have great difficulty in qualifying for the next round, even if they can do it, it will have to be through the play-offs. There are still six matches left to be played, the potential to collect points is still wide open but not a guarantee because their performance has not shown any signs of improvement.

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Quote from: Weawant on October 11, 2024, 06:06:50 PM

At the beginning of the season when Manchester united did started off as if they were going to be better than they were last season by having to win a few games and then a draw, most persons were already looking at it that what exactly are they having up their sleeves already but again they probably didn't fail to disappoint us again with their series of poor performance over and over again which has not gotten them the best result as they would desire this season.

This season is underway and has just entered the 7th match, with 31 more matches remaining. And Man United achieved 2 wins, 2 draws, and 3 losses. It's actually not that bad, but the view for football fans looks unimpressive. However, as football fans, we must also remember that this is just the beginning of the season and there are still many unexpected surprises to come. Man United still has plenty of opportunities to keep striving for more consistency and prove that all those negative thoughts are just temporary.

Next week we will see Manchester United's performance against Brentford and this is an opportunity for Ten Hag to motivate the players to bring home 3 points. Manchester United will play at home and logically, MU has a greater chance of defeating Brentford.

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Quote from: Hirose UK on October 09, 2024, 09:24:38 PM

AS Roma could not perform consistently whether in Serie-A or Europa League matches, showing that they still could not perform optimally, indeed in Serie-A they still got good results several times but there were many mistakes and setbacks in almost every match so that this triggered a less than optimal performance in the Europa League.
Next AS Roma will face Dynamo Kyiv which is one of the strongest teams in the Ukrainian League but this is home match for AS Roma and of course on paper they have the advantage to win even though it is not guaranteed.

Yes, that's the problem, they haven't been able to perform consistently, especially with a new coach who also has to adapt the tactics he uses more precisely and quickly. But this still hasn't been optimal.

Honestly, it's a shame that last season's star player like Artem Dovbyk hasn't been able to be that optimal with his club. Even though his contribution in Rome has been quite good. But what else, he really wants to go to Rome even though there are many top clubs who wanted him before.

Source: Italian agent Valerio Giuffrida - Dovbyk

And in the next match, they will face FC Dynamo Kyiv, Roma should win, and must win.

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Quote from: Egii Nna on October 11, 2024, 03:37:05 PM

Manchester United are just going on a hard time. It is not easy for them any more because there are getting more worst than last season no one expected this poor performance from Manchester United, but just take a look at what they are just displaying both in premier League and Europa League they are not doing anything. I can even consider premier leagues they had atleast 3 win games, but for the Europa League I don’t think they have won any they always go on a draw. Which their poor performance is been attributed to their coach Erik Ten Hag, he is putting less effort on them. I think the best solution for the team will be to sack him, maybe they might be able to do something tangible with a new coach.

At the beginning of the season when Manchester united did started off as if they were going to be better than they were last season by having to win a few games and then a draw, most persons were already looking at it that what exactly are they having up their sleeves already but again they probably didn't fail to disappoint us again with their series of poor performance over and over again which has not gotten them the best result as they would desire this season.

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Quote from: LUCKMCFLY on October 11, 2024, 05:12:57 PM

Yes, but I don't understand how they can support a Ten Hag who has brought absolutely nothing to the team, they have no qualification for the UCL, they don't win the really important competitions, that is something that is beyond the control of many players, because it is obvious that the players are not to blame, the guilty ones are obviously the coach. Now, how have they kept this coach? Unfortunately, it is very difficult for me to have faith in the MU , and it pains me, because they have a great roster. I think that many players are going to leave, they have to look for a better club because with a coach like that, they burn out their players.

This is the Angle that someone like me will never have to agree with fans. So if the team is not playing well the blame should be on the coach alone but if the team does well it is the both parties that are doing their job. Yes it is surprising that Manchester United have left Ten Hag hanging in but they might have their excuses which many of us do not agree with but I hope it pays them off well because it will be sad to see them later on sack him because it will be like delaying the inevitable at the moment.

But on the players I think they should have their fair share of the blame, you will see players on the pitch not tracking down his players or missing chances that regular players will have converted. I don’t see where the manager comes in here, some of these players have got two or more managers sacked with bad performance and Manchester United will be getting their fifth manager sacked if they sack Ten Hag so it is high time they question this players attitude too

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Quote from: Weawant on October 10, 2024, 06:12:58 PM

For Manchester united, their players hasn't been their problem, in fact just to get you understand better, some players have been sold out since Ten Hag arrived Manchester united and this players are doing so well in their new team and the new ones bought who were doing well at their old teams before coming to Manchester united are now declining because they aren't played with the right strategy and the right patterns how they are supposed to be played to be productive enough, their coach has got no good strategy or tactics of play just yet.

Yes, but I don't understand how they can support a Ten Hag who has brought absolutely nothing to the team, they have no qualification for the UCL, they don't win the really important competitions, that is something that is beyond the control of many players, because it is obvious that the players are not to blame, the guilty ones are obviously the coach. Now, how have they kept this coach? Unfortunately, it is very difficult for me to have faith in the MU , and it pains me, because they have a great roster. I think that many players are going to leave, they have to look for a better club because with a coach like that, they burn out their players.

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Manchester United are just going on a hard time. It is not easy for them any more because there are getting more worst than last season no one expected this poor performance from Manchester United, but just take a look at what they are just displaying both in premier League and Europa League they are not doing anything. I can even consider premier leagues they had atleast 3 win games, but for the Europa League I don’t think they have won any they always go on a draw. Which their poor performance is been attributed to their coach Erik Ten Hag, he is putting less effort on them. I think the best solution for the team will be to sack him, maybe they might be able to do something tangible with a new coach.

Manchester United got 2 draws in their last two matches in the European League. They drew 1-1 against Twente and 3-3 against Porto, but you can expect Manchester United to win against Fenerbache in their next match. But Manchester United's failure this season in the Europa League may be higher even though they have a chance to qualify for the round of 16, I mean Manchester United's performance is really bad. Manchester United did not win a single match in their last 5 matches in the Europa League and Premier League and they received 1 defeat and 4 draws.

This season has been bad for Ten Hag, it will probably be his last with Manchester United. Ten Hag's performance at Manchester United has been erratic at best, but he will no doubt complain about the lack of quality players he would have hoped for. He defended himself by blaming the players, but this is just an opinion that is not completely justified.

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Quote from: Obari on October 11, 2024, 02:30:58 PM

Manchester United not in apprehensive momentum this season, having faced with serious challenges, I don't think we might watch them bounced back this season, rather they can actually make a rebound next season. Erik Ten Hag is incompetent, having absolutely nothing to show for this season other than dissapointing results, do you know that becoming a Manchester United fan this period is devastating. Who's watching Manchester United games this current season? Well as for me, I've abstain from watching their games because they're doing nothing to show signs of improvement.

Indeed. Man United experienced bad season. It is not a kind of challenges, it is serious decline in performance. In EPL, Man United is in 14th place and in Europa league Man United never won a single match. There is nothing that we can expect from Man United in this season. Regarding Ten Hag, there is a rumor that Man board may fire him if there is no change in the next few matches. It means if Man United fails to come back, there is no more chance for Ten Hag to stay in Man United.

Manchester United are just going on a hard time. It is not easy for them any more because there are getting more worst than last season no one expected this poor performance from Manchester United, but just take a look at what they are just displaying both in premier League and Europa League they are not doing anything. I can even consider premier leagues they had atleast 3 win games, but for the Europa League I don’t think they have won any they always go on a draw. Which their poor performance is been attributed to their coach Erik Ten Hag, he is putting less effort on them. I think the best solution for the team will be to sack him, maybe they might be able to do something tangible with a new coach.

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Quote from: ajiz138 on October 11, 2024, 03:20:27 PM

I've already said that the Nations League is unpredictable and there are a lot of surprises, maybe I'll find it a bit boring because there's not that much passion from the players that I know.

England losing at home was definitely a surprise and bettors may have been disappointed with the result as Greece scored a late goal.
The Netherlands are 1 goal behind Hungary with a few more minutes to go so it could be a draw or a win but it's still hard to tell.

I missed so many UEFA Nations League matches regardless of which country was playing. The UEFA Nations League isn't the competition that interests me the most so far especially in the group stages, but there are always some big matches between the best nations to look forward to.

England's defeat to Greece clearly surprised many people because we all know that England's line-up in that match was the main players in their respective teams in various leagues. They are star players in their respective clubs, but their performance in the national team is very different. England always difficulty in big competitions, even in the UEFA Nations League. They suck and are hard to hope for.

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In his last match before Osimhen was sidelined with a muscle injury, in fact in that match Osimhen was man of the match when playing at home against Kasimpasa and Osimhen made two goals in that match. But unfortunately, after that match Osimhen was sidelined with a muscle injury and yes, I hope Osimhen's muscle injury can recover quickly of course so that Osimhen can continue to play and also to improve his quality. Because anyway, in the match against RFS also that Osimhen was not played due to injury and so far Osimhen has missed two Galatasaray matches, one in the Europa League and another in the Turkish Super Lig.

It seems not a very serious injury. I assume he will play as soon as possible.
Yep, Osimhen performed well. Osimhen has contributed much for Galatasaray, both in Süper Lig and Europa league.
It seems Osimhen to have a great season with Galatasaray.

That's right, he'll be back playing soon because the problem with his foot isn't too serious so it won't bother Galatasaray's attack too much for now.
Osimhen's adaptation process is still ongoing and indeed 3 matches were carried out with 2 goals at least it is a pretty good situation even though he still cannot contribute more optimally but at least it is enough for Osimhen especially it seems that for this season Bad will still continue to optimize and give more opportunities to Osimhen in order to prove himself that he is one of the strikers who are quite scary for opponents.

One of Osimhen's problems is just that he must be able to control his emotions more so that the situation that happened at Napoli does not happen at Galatasaray especially for now his chances are still very possible so that he can maintain his value at Galatasaray because after all Osimhen's value will decrease if there is no club that wants to buy this player.

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I've already said that the Nations League is unpredictable and there are a lot of surprises, maybe I'll find it a bit boring because there's not that much passion from the players that I know.

England losing at home was definitely a surprise and bettors may have been disappointed with the result as Greece scored a late goal.
The Netherlands are 1 goal behind Hungary with a few more minutes to go so it could be a draw or a win but it's still hard to tell.

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Quote from: Obari on October 11, 2024, 02:30:58 PM

Manchester United not in apprehensive momentum this season, having faced with serious challenges, I don't think we might watch them bounced back this season, rather they can actually make a rebound next season. Erik Ten Hag is incompetent, having absolutely nothing to show for this season other than dissapointing results, do you know that becoming a Manchester United fan this period is devastating. Who's watching Manchester United games this current season? Well as for me, I've abstain from watching their games because they're doing nothing to show signs of improvement.

Indeed. Man United experienced bad season. It is not a kind of challenges, it is serious decline in performance. In EPL, Man United is in 14th place and in Europa league Man United never won a single match. There is nothing that we can expect from Man United in this season. Regarding Ten Hag, there is a rumor that Man board may fire him if there is no change in the next few matches. It means if Man United fails to come back, there is no more chance for Ten Hag to stay in Man United.

Quote from: hahay on October 11, 2024, 02:38:46 PM

In his last match before Osimhen was sidelined with a muscle injury, in fact in that match Osimhen was man of the match when playing at home against Kasimpasa and Osimhen made two goals in that match. But unfortunately, after that match Osimhen was sidelined with a muscle injury and yes, I hope Osimhen's muscle injury can recover quickly of course so that Osimhen can continue to play and also to improve his quality. Because anyway, in the match against RFS also that Osimhen was not played due to injury and so far Osimhen has missed two Galatasaray matches, one in the Europa League and another in the Turkish Super Lig.

It seems not a very serious injury. I assume he will play as soon as possible.
Yep, Osimhen performed well. Osimhen has contributed much for Galatasaray, both in Süper Lig and Europa league.
It seems Osimhen to have a great season with Galatasaray.

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Quote from: rahmad2nd on October 11, 2024, 02:25:35 PM

I am quite enthusiastic, it seems quite crowded regarding the Victor Osimhen discussion. unfortunately I can't reply to each post from friends in the community in this thread one by one, besides Osimhen's current situation is injured and that is a bit detrimental to him in developing his performance.

Talking about Galatasaray, in the third session they will host Elfsborg and then host Tottenham. two home games, should be an advantage for them even though it is not easy to defeat the opposing team, especially Spurs. plus, Osimhen is certain not to be included in the list of players in the two matches because of his injury. but at least, there is a time gap now to restore the stamina and fitness of the Galatasaray players to welcome the away match in the Domestic League and prepare for the home match to host Elfsborg.

In his last match before Osimhen was sidelined with a muscle injury, in fact in that match Osimhen was man of the match when playing at home against Kasimpasa and Osimhen made two goals in that match. But unfortunately, after that match Osimhen was sidelined with a muscle injury and yes, I hope Osimhen's muscle injury can recover quickly of course so that Osimhen can continue to play and also to improve his quality. Because anyway, in the match against RFS also that Osimhen was not played due to injury and so far Osimhen has missed two Galatasaray matches, one in the Europa League and another in the Turkish Super Lig.

But yes, with this international break hopefully Osimhen can recover his injury faster. Although perhaps, Osimhen will not be able to play quickly after recovering from injury, but with a quick recovery effort it is certainly a good thing. But apart from that, based on recent rumors, there are also issues about Chelsea who still have an interest in bringing Osimhen in 2025, it is certainly interesting to look forward to because basically Osimhen still has good quality.

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Quote from: ITExpert on October 10, 2024, 10:35:58 AM

Manchester United's performance this season is very poor and most of the matches depend on draws. Out of which 3 matches are won and 2 are lost. If they play the next matches with similar efforts, they will not get a place in the standings.But the other players who come in should be able to be something for their team and win them some matches and develop themselves. If they pay more attention to it, they will be able to survive in this too and will be better in the next teams.You can judge this from the new players who are currently playing for Manchester United.There is a decline in management and players. A coach never teaches his players wrong. If the management is also wrong, Manchester United need to improve themselves because they have to play how they play.

Manchester United not in apprehensive momentum this season, having faced with serious challenges, I don't think we might watch them bounced back this season, rather they can actually make a rebound next season. Erik Ten Hag is incompetent, having absolutely nothing to show for this season other than dissapointing results, do you know that becoming a Manchester United fan this period is devastating. Who's watching Manchester United games this current season? Well as for me, I've abstain from watching their games because they're doing nothing to show signs of improvement.

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I am quite enthusiastic, it seems quite crowded regarding the Victor Osimhen discussion. unfortunately I can't reply to each post from friends in the community in this thread one by one, besides Osimhen's current situation is injured and that is a bit detrimental to him in developing his performance.

Talking about Galatasaray, in the third session they will host Elfsborg and then host Tottenham. two home games, should be an advantage for them even though it is not easy to defeat the opposing team, especially Spurs. plus, Osimhen is certain not to be included in the list of players in the two matches because of his injury. but at least, there is a time gap now to restore the stamina and fitness of the Galatasaray players to welcome the away match in the Domestic League and prepare for the home match to host Elfsborg.

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Quote from: Weawant on October 10, 2024, 06:12:58 PM

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Yes, everyone can see how Manchester United are proving themselves this season. If it can be correct, it is by yourself because the game is theirs to play and you have to play according to your mind and strength. Unless they become hardworking and good, they will remain so.There is no question of him being replaced if he could have hoped to win the matches that would have been good in his record. You have your opinion in this but their players should also work hard so that they can understand how to play.If their players work hard and play well from now on they will not have any need.

For Manchester united, their players hasn't been their problem, in fact just to get you understand better, some players have been sold out since Ten Hag arrived Manchester united and this players are doing so well in their new team and the new ones bought who were doing well at their old teams before coming to Manchester united are now declining because they aren't played with the right strategy and the right patterns how they are supposed to be played to be productive enough, their coach has got no good strategy or tactics of play just yet.

I won't complete say that their players hasn't been their problem, although I am of the idea that Manchester United problems also has to do with their present mentality regardless watching the goal they conceded against Tottenham Hotspurs in the league it just says alot about how poor they have been.
There is still lots of potentials in the team but ETH is not the right coach to bring out those potentials.

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Quote from: punk.zink on October 10, 2024, 10:22:46 AM

It seems like it's because of money considerations. At the time, they decided to give Ten Hag another chance at the start of this season, we all know that they also gave full support, or in other words, they were all in on Ten Hag, and that cost a lot of money. So if they now decide to fire Ten Hag, then what they have spent can be wasted, and there is even a possibility that they could lose more money if the replacement coach wants to build the squad again.

So if in the end, they let Ten Hag do whatever he wants, it means they feel resigned to a situation that they probably don't want to make worse because if they really want to change coaches, it means they have to prepare more funds, and they must never choose the wrong coach again, so for more options, it can only be done when the transfer window is available.

I am clear about it, the MU will not get ahead with Ten Hag, but how do you do it? It's their money, their interests and based on what we can see things are as they say, it's a shame, but if I were a MU player I would quickly look to leave the club because when they see that they have no improvement, their careers as footballers stagnate, and now the most coveted are the youngest and most famous players, and in the MU there are many players with a lot of quality, so from my point of view it is impossible for the owners of the MU to understand it, perhaps their interests are different and they do not have winning as a premise.

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