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Yeah it was strange to see a big PRIME promotional advertisement in the octagon because I thought Dana White didn't want to do any collaboration with
Jake Paul from their last meeting.
But then I found out it is his brother Logan who owns the drink company:
https://www.smh.com.au/lifestyle/health-and-wellness/logan-paul-s-energy-drink-has-more-caffeine-than-the-legal-australian-limit-20230221-p5cm52.html
https://www.washingtonpost.com/technology/2023/02/26/prime-drink-paul-logan-ksi
But then there was this article I've read that was published days before the fight:
https://adage.com/article/marketing-news-strategy/celsius-hires-jake-paul-brother-logan-paul-who-owns-prime-energy-drink/2475621
"Celsius challenges his brother Logan Paul’s emerging energy drink, Prime"
So he is just the ambassador of this new brand and not associated with Prime.
Well, technically even though they are brothers Jake Paul is not associated with Prime drink and actually, it was really Logan Paul and KSI who were the owners but sure even though Jake Paul would be the endorser of some other energy drink it doesn't really matter because he got his own mind to think for himself, but whatever the situation they're in they will still be brothers,

And for the 1st time, Jake Paul was defeated by Tommy Fury surely Jake Paul is not really ready for the real deal as a professional boxer, but surely the referee was always involved in their fight that I was distracted by the ref, but talk about the speed of Fury but surely Jake Paul is also not a slack he can throw some vicious punches right there but Tommy Fury speed is catching up to Paul, and while he is punching it he is not looking at his target so Tommy Fury is a better boxer here,
Think I saw a video of Logan Paul saying KSI is not longer with their collaboration any longer. But anyways, this is about Jake Paul and his fight with Tommy Paul who had was taped right before leaving heading back to the UK to celebrate his win at airport:

TOMMY FURY (AT AIRPORT) GOES IN ON DRAKE LOSING $400K BET, SLAMS JAKE PAUL EXCUSES & "AWFUL" KSI
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Oixu7lRDX5o

A bunch of celebrities at this fight and you just knew somebody would catch Ronaldo at the fight and have his reaction to the very surprising split decision awarded by the judges:

CRISTIANO RONALDO REACTION FROM THE STANDS AFTER TOMMY FURY BEATS JAKE PAUL
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YzN9DevbkJw

Drake did bet on Paul and lost and even contacted Jake before the bout and said he had a $400,000 bet on him so knock Fury out so he will take him to the Turks & Caicos together after the fight:

Jake Paul Reacts To Drake INSANE Bet To Beat Tommy Fury
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6guQUYwef14

https://nypost.com/2023/02/26/jake-paul-laughs-off-drake-curse-after-rapper-loses-400k-bet-on-him
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Too bad I bet cheer for the wrong guy for I listen to many users who thinks Jake can actually beat a legitimate boxer. Truth is that I also believe Jakae can do it because his winning streak is too good to not actually get excited about it.

Also, it is indeed unusual to see main events canceled. It only looks like they are just hyping the card of this fight night to gain from tickets but they knew from the start the main event is not really happening and Dana knew it from the beginning. Just wearing my tinfoil hat.


That is why I never made a bet for Jake Paul VS Tommy Fury because I know that this is not the usual fight he ever fought mostly retired MMA fighters but this one is different Tommy Fury is a legit Boxer, but if it's a retired boxer maybe he would have a chance this goes to show that Jake Paul is not really ready for the big league, and pretty much MMA and Boxing is one big another level different and surely all that 1st fights for Jake Paul was all just to get his confident rise, well, most likely his arrogant and cockiness is the one that is rising, and I think it is false confidence, instead of building a much real scenario Jake Paul is living a dream, he must stay in fighting retired MMA fighter, but maybe there is no one that wants to fight him anymore that is why he went for a boxer, and I think that loss is likely what Jake Paul needed to wake his senses,

Well maybe there is a conspiracy about the UFC knowing ahead of time that the main event will not commence but it is surely just hearsay but there is a possibility but I don't really like to think it that way,

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Yeah it was strange to see a big PRIME promotional advertisement in the octagon because I thought Dana White didn't want to do any collaboration with
Jake Paul from their last meeting.
But then I found out it is his brother Logan who owns the drink company:
https://www.smh.com.au/lifestyle/health-and-wellness/logan-paul-s-energy-drink-has-more-caffeine-than-the-legal-australian-limit-20230221-p5cm52.html
https://www.washingtonpost.com/technology/2023/02/26/prime-drink-paul-logan-ksi

But then there was this article I've read that was published days before the fight:
https://adage.com/article/marketing-news-strategy/celsius-hires-jake-paul-brother-logan-paul-who-owns-prime-energy-drink/2475621

"Celsius challenges his brother Logan Paul’s emerging energy drink, Prime"

So he is just the ambassador of this new brand and not associated with Prime.

Well, technically even though they are brothers Jake Paul is not associated with Prime drink and actually, it was really Logan Paul and KSI who were the owners but sure even though Jake Paul would be the endorser of some other energy drink it doesn't really matter because he got his own mind to think for himself, but whatever the situation they're in they will still be brothers,

And for the 1st time, Jake Paul was defeated by Tommy Fury surely Jake Paul is not really ready for the real deal as a professional boxer, but surely the referee was always involved in their fight that I was distracted by the ref, but talk about the speed of Fury but surely Jake Paul is also not a slack he can throw some vicious punches right there but Tommy Fury speed is catching up to Paul, and while he is punching it he is not looking at his target so Tommy Fury is a better boxer here,


Too bad I bet cheer for the wrong guy for I listen to many users who thinks Jake can actually beat a legitimate boxer. Truth is that I also believe Jakae can do it because his winning streak is too good to not actually get excited about it.

Also, it is indeed unusual to see main events canceled. It only looks like they are just hyping the card of this fight night to gain from tickets but they knew from the start the main event is not really happening and Dana knew it from the beginning. Just wearing my tinfoil hat.
legendary
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Yeah it was strange to see a big PRIME promotional advertisement in the octagon because I thought Dana White didn't want to do any collaboration with
Jake Paul from their last meeting.
But then I found out it is his brother Logan who owns the drink company:
https://www.smh.com.au/lifestyle/health-and-wellness/logan-paul-s-energy-drink-has-more-caffeine-than-the-legal-australian-limit-20230221-p5cm52.html
https://www.washingtonpost.com/technology/2023/02/26/prime-drink-paul-logan-ksi

But then there was this article I've read that was published days before the fight:
https://adage.com/article/marketing-news-strategy/celsius-hires-jake-paul-brother-logan-paul-who-owns-prime-energy-drink/2475621

"Celsius challenges his brother Logan Paul’s emerging energy drink, Prime"

So he is just the ambassador of this new brand and not associated with Prime.

Well, technically even though they are brothers Jake Paul is not associated with Prime drink and actually, it was really Logan Paul and KSI who were the owners but sure even though Jake Paul would be the endorser of some other energy drink it doesn't really matter because he got his own mind to think for himself, but whatever the situation they're in they will still be brothers,

And for the 1st time, Jake Paul was defeated by Tommy Fury surely Jake Paul is not really ready for the real deal as a professional boxer, but surely the referee was always involved in their fight that I was distracted by the ref, but talk about the speed of Fury but surely Jake Paul is also not a slack he can throw some vicious punches right there but Tommy Fury speed is catching up to Paul, and while he is punching it he is not looking at his target so Tommy Fury is a better boxer here,
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Yeah it was strange to see a big PRIME promotional advertisement in the octagon because I thought Dana White didn't want to do any collaboration with
Jake Paul from their last meeting.
But then I found out it is his brother Logan who owns the drink company:
https://www.smh.com.au/lifestyle/health-and-wellness/logan-paul-s-energy-drink-has-more-caffeine-than-the-legal-australian-limit-20230221-p5cm52.html
https://www.washingtonpost.com/technology/2023/02/26/prime-drink-paul-logan-ksi

But then there was this article I've read that was published days before the fight:
https://adage.com/article/marketing-news-strategy/celsius-hires-jake-paul-brother-logan-paul-who-owns-prime-energy-drink/2475621

"Celsius challenges his brother Logan Paul’s emerging energy drink, Prime"

So he is just the ambassador of this new brand and not associated with Prime.
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This was a strange fight night from the very start with several cancelled fights right before the event starting.
Was surprised when the main event was cancelled on such short notice. It was announced just when the main card was starting on air by Bisping.

Second time this year so far with the main attraction on the Vegas card getting pushed aside due to an illness.
First was Derrick Lewis and now Nikita Krylov falling not being able to fight. So the co main fight became the main event.

It was really a weird Fight Night there surely has a lot of frustration and Dana White seems not happy with the sudden main event cancellation It was so sudden that it was the 1-hour announcement that he can not fight because of illness but Nikita Krylov really wants to fight badly even though he got a bad Illness because the doctor just have to step up and say that he can not fight at all, and Dana White in a Press Con after the event said it was an Illness to his stomach maybe because of cutting weight, well after hearing this at 1st I thought that Nikita Krylov is just messing around but it was really this serious so it was a frustration for both camp, but it really happens,

And on that Press Con, it was really juicy topic about Jon Jones returning to fight Ciryl Gane, Shevchenko VS Grasso, and for me, the juiciest one was the Volkanovski against Makhachev rematch because the UFC management wants that there will surely be a rematch but after each fighters individual fights,

And Speaking of Jake Pauls Drink PRIME I thought it was the official drink for the UFC, why does Dana White still have a Monster Bottle on his table in the Press Conference,

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This was a strange fight night from the very start with several cancelled fights right before the event starting.
Was surprised when the main event was cancelled on such short notice. It was announced just when the main card was starting on air by Bisping.

Second time this year so far with the main attraction on the Vegas card getting pushed aside due to an illness.
First was Derrick Lewis and now Nikita Krylov falling not being able to fight. So the co main fight became the main event.
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Here is the result of my picks my main bet was really all lost, and because the Main Fight was Cancelled I really don't enjoy the event so much,

Nikita Krylov VS Ryan Spann - CANCELLED

André Muniz VS Brendan Allen - LOST

Augusto Sakai VS Don'Tale Mayes - LOST

Tatiana Suarez VS Montana De La Rosa - LOST

Mike Malott VS Yohan Lainesse - WIN

Erick Gonzalez VS Trevor Peek - WIN

Gabriella Fernandes VS Jasmine Jasudavicius - LOST

Jordan Leavitt VS Victor Martinez - WIN

Ode Osbourne VS Charles Johnson - LOST

Joe Solecki VS Carl Deaton III - WIN

Nurullo Aliev VS Rafael Alves - WIN


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WOW! another thread for the UFC most of the time the only topic that I know was just MMA or boxing and there could be some of the NBA but because a lot of the players are now on the NBA I really have no idea, but I often post on some of the thread here and it was easier with the MMA because of certain sites I surely can get information about the fighters and I really love mixed martial arts and surely I do have experience in a little sparring on my recent school so I can surely relate,

Well the recent UFC Fight Night I surely missed it because of school activities we are having with my kids, it was pretty much busy lately, but pretty much I will look for the recent UFC events replay fights so I can have any idea what has really happened,

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Good explanation on the main event inregards to Spann vs Krylov.
I do enjoy reading about well thought out rundowns of why people choose the fighters that they do during the main card.

The weigh-ins for this event had all fighter's weights passed for their matches except one fight did get cancelled for the fight night:
"Hailey Cowan vs. Ailin Perez was called off after Cowan fell ill prior to the weigh-ins."
source: https://www.sherdog.com/news/news/UFC-Fight-Night-220-Weighin-Results-Main-Event-Set-1-Fight-Canceled-189257

Well, pretty much that is just what I think may happen I tend to watch each fighter's fighting style some of their latest and recent fights then I will try to picture what may happen because, with that glimpse of their fight, you can surely see what they might do, and just sharing what is my thought in the UFC or MMA thread,

Actually, Hailey Cowan VS Ailin "Fiona" Perez was the women fight that I am expecting and anticipating to watch because both of them are fighting Kittens, look at those gorgeous and beautiful kittens, but sad to say because of the Illness the fight will need to be halted,



Now here are my full picks for the UFC Fight Night: Krylov vs. Spann highlighted in green are my picks

MAIN EVENT
Nikita Krylov VS Ryan Spann

CO-MAIN EVENT
André Muniz VS Brendan Allen

MAIN CARD
Augusto Sakai VS Don'Tale Mayes
Tatiana Suarez VS Montana De La Rosa
Mike Malott VS Yohan Lainesse

PRELIMINARY CARD
Erick Gonzalez VS Trevor Peek
Gabriella Fernandes VS Jasmine Jasudavicius
Jordan Leavitt VS Victor Martinez
Ode Osbourne VS Charles Johnson
Joe Solecki VS Carl Deaton III
Nurullo Aliev VS Rafael Alves

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Good explanation on the main event inregards to Spann vs Krylov.
I do enjoy reading about well thought out rundowns of why people choose the fighters that they do during the main card.

The weigh-ins for this event had all fighter's weights passed for their matches except one fight did get cancelled for the fight night:
"Hailey Cowan vs. Ailin Perez was called off after Cowan fell ill prior to the weigh-ins."
source: https://www.sherdog.com/news/news/UFC-Fight-Night-220-Weighin-Results-Main-Event-Set-1-Fight-Canceled-189257
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Should be a good fight between these two contenders for this weekend.
I remember Spann's last fight and he was very dominate and fast with his punches. But I still think Krylov is the one to take him out with just pure size and power. If he can catch him and start wrestling then it is all over for Superman Spann.
We will have to see in a few more days before the main event happens.

In the meantime there are weigh-ins for this event starting Friday.
UFC Fight Night 220: Krylov vs. Spann Official Weigh-in Live Stream | Fri. 9 a.m PT/ 12 p.m ET
Can be viewed here in it's entirely: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a39pT8PP1m0

Actually, now that I have seen it Nikita Krylov will have a hardtime with Ryan Spann because Spann got good takedown defense, actually, I have never seen Krylov's takedown defense because he is the one executing it, for me Spann also got the accuracy and power in his punching it was evident in his recent fights, Ryan Spann also has the Height advantage he is 6'5" while Krylov was 6'3" and Spann reach was also 81.5" (207cm) while Krylov has 77.5" (197cm) but the advantage of Nikita Krylov was imminent with his kicks that reach within the range of his kicks was really fast and can surely knockout aswell, I was watching both fighters recent fight and device a possible outcome of the fight and it was pretty much close because both fighters have their own ground game, Spann can surely hang on to you while his opponent is still standing and deliver a guillotine choke, while Krylov will surely dive in deep waters to get what he wants,

Because of that, I am really curious about what may happen with the fight because this is fairly a close match for now I am still aiming to bet for Nikita Krylov because of his fast kicks that surely has advantage with a combination of punching,
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Should be a good fight between these two contenders for this weekend.
I remember Spann's last fight and he was very dominate and fast with his punches. But I still think Krylov is the one to take him out with just pure size and power. If he can catch him and start wrestling then it is all over for Superman Spann.
We will have to see in a few more days before the main event happens.

In the meantime there are weigh-ins for this event starting Friday.
UFC Fight Night 220: Krylov vs. Spann Official Weigh-in Live Stream | Fri. 9 a.m PT/ 12 p.m ET
Can be viewed here in it's entirely: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a39pT8PP1m0
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I am leaning towards a Nikita Krylov win against Ryan Spann for the main event as well.
From the prediction sources that I have watched and read on this fight night main card so far they are all going for him to win.

UFC Fight Night 220 multi master challenge is available for you to win some prizes on your selections for this event this coming weekend:
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/sportsbetio-ufc-fight-night-220-multi-master-challenge-saturday-5440587

Surely Nikita Krylov is 1 great fighter he has a great standing and can surely set up his kicks, he can definitely capitalize his opponent with punches and eventually kicks at the right now while Ryan Superman Spann I think got the power, so if these two would fight each other the more technical fighter will be Krylov for sure while Spann will surely get you a barrage of punches but he is more aggressive that is why I really like a more technical fighter,



Right now a sure fight will be between Aljamain Sterling VS Henry Cejudo, and we could see it on UFC 288 on May 6, surely Henry Cejudo has returned from retirement, and for me, Cejudo got a more favorable advantage in this sure fight was Charles Oliveira VS, Beniel Dariush, right now these two is surely a great fight to watch pretty much Charles Oliveira would need to focus here even though Darius looks not enough pretty much Beniel Dariush has a great game with on the ground, so for me, Oliveira would need a different approached,
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Well, it was just luck, but on my 1st try on the multi-master challenge I won the 2mbtc surely it was really OK for me if I didn't win it, I am just chillin' with my winnings with my main bet on stake.com so no worries, I still haven't seen the result myself but I think we have done quite great with our picks so no worries at all, let's just do our best on the next, and just have fun with it because I think that is the most important part in making a bet,

Well, seeing the recent and latest fight with Blanchfield she really is for me great with her wrestling and grappling skills no doubt about that, and she really deserves the rank 3 position but I think she really deserves the title shot and be champion in the future, this 23 years old will surely come a long way,

And speaking of the next fight Nikita Krylov VS Ryan Spann for me this is just a guess but I am more pinning towards Krylov but still researching and watching his recent fights, while Ryan Spann is a great fighter aswell in getting those opportunities or openings and taking that he is on par for that but still I still think that I am missing something so will be coming back on this and make my final picks here for the whole event,
I am leaning towards a Nikita Krylov win against Ryan Spann for the main event as well.
From the prediction sources that I have watched and read on this fight night main card so far they are all going for him to win.

UFC Fight Night 220 multi master challenge is available for you to win some prizes on your selections for this event this coming weekend:
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/sportsbetio-ufc-fight-night-220-multi-master-challenge-saturday-5440587
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@YuginKadoya Didn't know you had so many correct selections for the UFC 219 challenge.
You had even beat me on how many was picked right and I thought it wasn't too bad.
But if you go to the results page, I didn't see your name as one of the three to win.
One incorrect was the top one to win the 2mbtc free bet, which seemed to be the result you would likely need to win these giveaways.
The competitions are tight when it comes to receiving a prize when there isn't any requirement needed other than entering in.

Looks like Blanchfield is the #3 top fighter to compete for the championship in the women's flyweight division.
Am looking forward to see her climb the ranks to get to fight Valentina since she is scheduled to be at UFC 285 event in March.

Well, it was just luck, but on my 1st try on the multi-master challenge I won the 2mbtc surely it was really OK for me if I didn't win it, I am just chillin' with my winnings with my main bet on stake.com so no worries, I still haven't seen the result myself but I think we have done quite great with our picks so no worries at all, let's just do our best on the next, and just have fun with it because I think that is the most important part in making a bet,

Well, seeing the recent and latest fight with Blanchfield she really is for me great with her wrestling and grappling skills no doubt about that, and she really deserves the rank 3 position but I think she really deserves the title shot and be champion in the future, this 23 years old will surely come a long way,

And speaking of the next fight Nikita Krylov VS Ryan Spann for me this is just a guess but I am more pinning towards Krylov but still researching and watching his recent fights, while Ryan Spann is a great fighter aswell in getting those opportunities or openings and taking that he is on par for that but still I still think that I am missing something so will be coming back on this and make my final picks here for the whole event,

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@YuginKadoya Didn't know you had so many correct selections for the UFC 219 challenge.
You had even beat me on how many was picked right and I thought it wasn't too bad.
But if you go to the results page, I didn't see your name as one of the three to win.
One incorrect was the top one to win the 2mbtc free bet, which seemed to be the result you would likely need to win these giveaways.
The competitions are tight when it comes to receiving a prize when there isn't any requirement needed other than entering in.

Looks like Blanchfield is the #3 top fighter to compete for the championship in the women's flyweight division.
Am looking forward to see her climb the ranks to get to fight Valentina since she is scheduled to be at UFC 285 event in March.
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We both won then on our bets for the UFC. Just finished watching the main event and Erin submitted Andrade in the second round and didn't take too much effort in getting the win either.
It was a masterclass of a performance so the Molly McCann win wasn't by fluke even though that was pure domination of a very good fighter.
But this one was the validating match because Jessica Andrade was a former champion not too long ago.
So she passed this test and can move on to the next one to get her own championship title.

After the fight she called out either Grasso or Shevchennko:
https://www.mmafighting.com/2023/2/18/23605910/erin-blanchfield-calls-for-title-shot-after-tapping-out-jessica-andrade-in-ufc-vegas-69-main-event

That is determination at it's finest right with that statement!

Well, I got all of my 3 bets correct, but have 2 losses on my full pick for the Multi-Master Challenge, but I think I have done a great job in making a win over Erin Blanchfield, she was a true underdog and Jessica Andrade is not a push-over and the durability she got because of that muscles of hers but I got my faith for Blanchfield in her wrestling that is why,



Here are my picks for the UFC Fight Night: Andrade vs. Blanchfield

Jéssica Andrade VS Erin Blanchfield - Submission - WIN

Zac Pauga VS Jordan Wright - Decision - WIN

Josh Parisian VS Jamal Pogues - Decision - WIN

William Knight VS Marcin Prachnio - Decision - LOST

Jim Miller VS Alexander Hernandez - Decision - WIN

Nazim Sadykhov VS Evan Elder - TKO - WIN

Lina Länsberg VS Mayra Bueno Silva - Submission - WIN

Jamall Emmers VS Khusein Askhabov - Decision - LOST

Ovince St. Preux VS Philipe Lins - TKO - WIN

A.J. Fletcher VS Themba Gorimbo - Submission - WIN

Juancamilo Ronderos VS Clayton Carpenter Submission - WIN

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We got the same picks I also got Erin Blanchfield, Alexander Hernandez, Nazim Sadykhov, A.J. Fletcher, and Clayton Carpenter for me I will be picking Blanchfield even though Jessica Andrade looks ripped with that muscle of hers, but for me, Erin Blanchfield is a fighting kitten through and through and with that wrestling technique that has the edge I think she can counter Andrade's submission attempts and takedown, and can surely get a takedown and submission her self,
We both won then on our bets for the UFC. Just finished watching the main event and Erin submitted Andrade in the second round and didn't take too much effort in getting the win either.
It was a masterclass of a performance so the Molly McCann win wasn't by fluke even though that was pure domination of a very good fighter.
But this one was the validating match because Jessica Andrade was a former champion not too long ago.
So she passed this test and can move on to the next one to get her own championship title.

After the fight she called out either Grasso or Shevchennko:
https://www.mmafighting.com/2023/2/18/23605910/erin-blanchfield-calls-for-title-shot-after-tapping-out-jessica-andrade-in-ufc-vegas-69-main-event

That is determination at it's finest right with that statement!
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Here is the weigh ins link to help people make their predictions:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XoKz3n0B-sU

Well the weigh-ins look tasty and on to the main event Erin Blanchfield is stunning and she is taller than Andrade, Erin Blanchfield weights 125 lbs while Jessica Andrade is 124 lbs, a 1lbs difference, while Jessica Andrade looks stunningly muscular than Blanchfield I think that extra weight and that height can still be her advantage when taking Andrade to the ground, I sure hope that Blanchfield has sure readied her self for this,

Thanks for those predictions and the weigh-ins video to fellow UFC forum fans who have joined the thread and
Welcome to you both!

Here are my selections for the UFC event which begins in about 4 hours from now:


Good luck to us and hope for more wins in this one! My other one I put on here did hit but that was a very long time ago.

We got the same picks I also got Erin Blanchfield, Alexander Hernandez, Nazim Sadykhov, A.J. Fletcher, and Clayton Carpenter for me I will be picking Blanchfield even though Jessica Andrade looks ripped with that muscle of hers, but for me, Erin Blanchfield is a fighting kitten through and through and with that wrestling technique that has the edge I think she can counter Andrade's submission attempts and takedown, and can surely get a takedown and submission her self,
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