Topic: Unofficial BITMINE CoinCraft series 28nm ASIC miners thread - page 42. (Read 202955 times)

Giorgio said "parallel" so I interpreted that as an increase in overall production capacity, with no impact on us regular customers. Maybe I'm wrong.  Either way, thanks for the information.

I just want my Rig.

k thx bye

Try it here: https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.5371936 & here: https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.5370295

But it seems you are not understanding the production of hardware at all or don`t want to understand it - finally it seems you even not get it that people want you to understand that you was scammed too by this company. BFL has nothing to do with them & is in no way justify bitmine actions - even they shouted about Yifu month ago... but maybe you are not as long in BTC business as we are.

So finally here is some visual impact for you: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OQY3Y8shBY8 - this is made by a "line" & not a full miner. And this is the reason why Petahash cut normal production 50%!

Well obviously it wasn't - or were just all dumb people. But that many dumb people in one single thread would be statistically somehow questionable.



32 of real "late delivery" (10 days of reprieve already over) or "after agreed shipping date" (the first 10 days of the stated 32 does not happen anything)
Based on what follows, my assumption would be "after agreed shipping date"
Effective of what? Effective in CCP is assume.
Since these 30% base on the 22 days this would mean to me, that you receive the first 10% on the first day the CCP triggers (which is on the 11th day "after agreed shipping date").

Even this "clarification" is unclear (at least to me)
Having it explained using a concrete timeline as suggested many time in the official thread would have helped. (e.g. something like order "February week 1" -> agreed shipping date: 5th of Feb -> 15th Feb: last day in the 10 day "inaccuracy period" -> 16th Feb: First day under CCP, entitled for the first 10% of Penalty -> 26th of Feb: 11th day under CCP ... -> 16th of April: entitled to refund)



True for the Desk (which I found out today when looking at the Desks product page), but definitely wrong for the Rigs. So to me there is no room for interpretation regarding the turbo mode to be reached for the Rigs.



Has been known by whom? Based on what? Did I miss an official Statement about the rig status? There was some unofficial rumor but no official Statement or confirmation - or I just missed it.
"go in production" means the German manufacturer producing PBCs, Italian company doing pick&place and then bitmine starting the assembly and testing?
So assume in best case these steps take 8 working days, this would mean that if the current prototype shows fully functional and is complying to your standards, first rigs get shipped earliest 10th of March?



last but not least: I do appreciate that we finally got an official update. I certainly do agree/acknowledge on some points in this post, but as indicated I do disagree on others.
I've always tried to be on the "constructive criticism" side, so if anybody feels offended by any statement in this post just pm me and I will Change/remove the corresponding part.

Gonna call you on that one.  You don't sound like you have pre-ordered before.

List the ASIC pre-orders that you have had BEFORE Bitmine, or STFU.  I'll be calling for proof too (pics with you holding a piece of paper with your forum name in front of the miner or it didn't happen).

I was answering the following question from Syke:

Basically, it seems that if you order $1 million or more from Bitmine they will set up an extra production line for you.  It's not a justification for delays, it's just a guessed answer to a question.  

I'm not biased.  Bitmine has some good and bad points.  Hopefully their product will be good (I haven't got mine yet, but if it exists their 2 TH/s Rig will be the fastest miner in the world).  The delays and lack of communication are bad.  I have already mentioned it several times, and I'll say it again: I'm not happy with Bitmine delays.

Actually as far as manufacturers go, I prefer KnCMiner who delivered my Jupiter with only about 2 weeks delay, and I prefer Bitmain who shipped my AntMiner S1 within 2 working days.  I have a very low opinion of BFL, who caused me a 6 month delay... but at least they had a blog which communicated the status on a DAILY basis (not that it made me happy, but some communication is better than none - Bitmine take note!).

I'm a 2TH/s Rig Batch 1 customer, probably ordered before you (either that or you haven't listed your order on the batch 1 order list), so your anger shouldn't be directed at me.  I am not responsible for Bitmine delays.

Explain to me how adding a production line is REDUCING production capacity.  That just doesn't sound right to me. 

I'd love it if they put those resources into an extra production line for us... but that extra production line was paid for by Petamine as part of their deal, so if the Petamine order had never occurred that extra line would never have existed anyway.

I'm not happy with Bitmine either, but on the other hand I think the amount of FUD and personal attacks are getting out of hand.

So are you saying that it´s justified that they are not using 100% of their workforce for us regular customers?

70 Desk  + 165  Rigs =2.377.365 USD

How on earth do you know?
Proof it or move.

Also they should much rather put those resources into finalizing our orders when they currently only produce 50 friggin desks per day and not a single rig so far.

Don´t ya think smart guy who gets everything right?

What are you talking about?

This does of course not justify any delay for our orders.
If bitmine was to communicate this publicly (contract with petamine + second facility belt including pics) then we could maybe accept that.

But when they have an output of only 50 desks and no single customer received it prior to petamine they are simply lying.

Interestingly to me you do sound very biased anyways. And you are not the only one who ordered asics before. Enough said.

I think you don`t get it that a "production line" is pick & place components to the unpopulated boards. The line produce JUST the populated boards (in Italy) - the miners have to get then assembeled by hand ( = limited people at bitmine - max. 6 desks for it available). The production line is just populating the boards & not "making" a miner - so the Petahash is cutting the production 50%.  

Damn, that's a nice interface!  View the IP address on the LED screen - something I liked about the product when I ordered it.  No more hunting through your router for the IP address of your miner.  Temperature readout and hash rate too... excellent!

Each production line operates in parallel:


Production lines operating in parallel makes sense... why would there be a dependency between production lines?  As I understand it, Bitmine have the A1 ASICs, they have the PCBs, they have the PSUs, they have the cases, they have the cables and all other components, and now the production lines are assembling the units.  The assembly of each machine is totally independent, two lines can assemble twice the number of machines as one line, three lines assemble three times as much, etc.

This is going to be really convenient! And it looks like they have the setup experience nailed down pretty well, if it goes as the web page describes.

bitmine: If you can, I'd suggest a change to your process so that either the password or username of each box is set to a unique code displayed on the screen before initial login. Having a screen means you have the ability to easily communicate unique codes to the users w/o assembly work and possible error of mismatching, missing, or falling-off stickers.

I know people should know better than to put these on public IPs, but plenty of people seem to port forward to ssh or http access through their firewalls, sometimes without changing the passwords.

There is a new page, which describes the first setup of the miner: http://bitmine.ch/?page_id=5284
(quite straightforward; quoted with no pictures)

And you think that whole thing is screwing together by the production line?

This 2nd producing line could work too for the "normal" order queue or the special one for old clients (Avalon Clone) - too it`s normal by "adding" a 2nd line that you will "cut" production cap (assembly) for normal clients by min. 50%. Additional the CCP plan is just a good business for them at all, they changed statements, dates (multiple times) and finally TOS - can`t follow you, sorry.

No, you've got it all wrong. Bitmine haven't reduced their production capacity, they have started another production line for Petamine units. It doesn't affect us at all. That extra production line was effectively paid for by Petamine in their large deal.

"As part of the deal that we had with Cryptx, given the big amount of the purchase, we have agreed to setup an additional dedicated production line that would be working in parallel to the existing ones and producing the units just for them"

I suspect that if you order as many units as Petamine did, they could afford to set up an additional production line for you too. That would be 100+ units (probably 2 TH/s Rgs) so roughly a $1 million order.

thank you for your advice, the problem is the contract changes more often then mr Gs. underware