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Topic: Unofficial list of (official) Bitcointalk.org rules, guidelines, FAQ - page 36. (Read 1055313 times)

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-rephrasing-

Rephrasing is a form of spam. I collect those posts and report them to BadBear directly if a user does it constantly.
legendary
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On this topic of double-posting and whatnot, what about posting the exact same information that someone has just posted above you.  I notice this from a lot of signature-advertizers.  Someone will give an answer to a question, then 4 more people will reanswer it with the same information in a new phrasing.  Not to single out MZ (it's just a relevant and handy example), but this just happened right above.   MZ writes:

If not, what is the best way to bring it to the attention of a moderator?

Thanks.

Click 'Report to moderator' button in lower right of the post you want to report and type the reason in the field in the loaded page.

This is two posts below this reply:

If not, what is the best way to bring it to the attention of a moderator?

Thanks.

I can't answer the questions (1) and (2), but on the bolded part (how to tell a mod), just click the "report to moderator" text you see at the bottom right of every post.  It's quite useful and (as far as I know) the mods appreciate the help.
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I'm not clear on what double posting really is.

1 - Is it posting twice in a row in thread?  As Shorena already mentioned, I also don't have a problem with that, when it is addressing different points in the same thread, or to break up a long post.

OR

2 - Is it posting the same information (even exact duplicate) in 2 different threads?

1. Posting twice in a row isn't double posting. You can do it as long as both have different points. But replying to posts one by one and if it is small, this maybe considered as boosting post count and will be merged.

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Example:

Bob: I like pizza.
Bob: I also like pie

^^^ This will be considered as double-posting and is spam. Second post can be avoided using 'edit' button.

2. Even making exact post in two different threads is not against forum rule if they aren't

   - Off topic.
   - Low or zero value.
   - Referral link spam -- there are exceptions for posting referral links.

* Hope I didn't miss any.

Guess I should ask more clearly: if both, either or neither (1 & 2) are allowed?

It depends on the post.

I've seen a user this week, do some back to back posts, that were really odd - just quoting previous posts he'd made in the same thread.  That isn't appropriate, right?  (necro-posting)

Posting exact posts in all threads are spam. However, making two or three exact posts in relevant threads are okay.

If not, what is the best way to bring it to the attention of a moderator?

Thanks.

Click 'Report to moderator' button in lower right of the post you want to report and type the reason in the field in the loaded page.
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I appreciate the thoughts, but they unfortunately don't answer the heart of my questions.

Could a moderator or staff hopefully respond?
legendary
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I'm not clear on what double posting really is.

1 - Is it posting twice in a row in thread?  As Shorena already mentioned, I also don't have a problem with that, when it is addressing different points in the same thread, or to break up a long post.

OR

2 - Is it posting the same information (even exact duplicate) in 2 different threads?

Guess I should ask more clearly: if both, either or neither (1 & 2) are allowed?

I've seen a user this week, do some back to back posts, that were really odd - just quoting previous posts he'd made in the same thread.  That isn't appropriate, right?  (necro-posting)  If not, what is the best way to bring it to the attention of a moderator?

Thanks.

1. Posting twice in a thread is consecutive posting (double posting) and the posts get merged if noticed by the MOD. It's like bumping a thread twice within 24 hours which isn't allowed.

2. You can report those posts if they are duplicates but it's not called double posting I guess.
legendary
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I'm not clear on what double posting really is.

1 - Is it posting twice in a row in thread?  As Shorena already mentioned, I also don't have a problem with that, when it is addressing different points in the same thread, or to break up a long post.

OR

2 - Is it posting the same information (even exact duplicate) in 2 different threads?

Guess I should ask more clearly: if both, either or neither (1 & 2) are allowed?

I've seen a user this week, do some back to back posts, that were really odd - just quoting previous posts he'd made in the same thread.  That isn't appropriate, right?  (necro-posting)  If not, what is the best way to bring it to the attention of a moderator?

Thanks.

I can't answer the questions (1) and (2), but on the bolded part (how to tell a mod), just click the "report to moderator" text you see at the bottom right of every post.  It's quite useful and (as far as I know) the mods appreciate the help.
member
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I'm not clear on what double posting really is.

1 - Is it posting twice in a row in thread?  As Shorena already mentioned, I also don't have a problem with that, when it is addressing different points in the same thread, or to break up a long post.

OR

2 - Is it posting the same information (even exact duplicate) in 2 different threads?

Guess I should ask more clearly: if both, either or neither (1 & 2) are allowed?

I've seen a user this week, do some back to back posts, that were really odd - just quoting previous posts he'd made in the same thread.  That isn't appropriate, right?  (necro-posting)  If not, what is the best way to bring it to the attention of a moderator?

Thanks.
legendary
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I may write code in exchange for bitcoins.
What's the rules on double posting? Doesn't seem to be any discussion on it. But I WOULD of thought there would be a policy which would mean you need to edit rather than posting twice.

Even if there's not an actual rule on this, I'm pretty sure it's considered good form to edit rather than repost.  Relatedly, I've seen that people can bump their service thread like once a day or something.  Does editing the last post also generate a bump in the forum listings?


The old bump must be deleted once you make a new one. Editing your post wont bump it but it will make the thread 'unread' to people even if they've already clicked on it (but wont bump it).

Got it!  Thanks for the clarifications, folks.
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Not really. That's why I sometimes post in the thread so I'll notice it if I suspect its going on. It's not really a huge issue though.
hero member
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What's the rules on double posting? Doesn't seem to be any discussion on it. But I WOULD of thought there would be a policy which would mean you need to edit rather than posting twice.

Even if there's not an actual rule on this, I'm pretty sure it's considered good form to edit rather than repost.  Relatedly, I've seen that people can bump their service thread like once a day or something.  Does editing the last post also generate a bump in the forum listings?


The old bump must be deleted once you make a new one. Editing your post wont bump it but it will make the thread 'unread' to people even if they've already clicked on it (but wont bump it).

How about people who delete their post and repost it. Is there any way for a mod to know if someone reports it and if he hasn't seen this behavior?
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What's the rules on double posting? Doesn't seem to be any discussion on it. But I WOULD of thought there would be a policy which would mean you need to edit rather than posting twice.

Even if there's not an actual rule on this, I'm pretty sure it's considered good form to edit rather than repost.  Relatedly, I've seen that people can bump their service thread like once a day or something.  Does editing the last post also generate a bump in the forum listings?


The old bump must be deleted once you make a new one. Editing your post wont bump it but it will make the thread 'unread' to people even if they've already clicked on it (but wont bump it).
copper member
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No I dont escrow anymore.
What's the rules on double posting? Doesn't seem to be any discussion on it. But I WOULD of thought there would be a policy which would mean you need to edit rather than posting twice.

Even if there's not an actual rule on this, I'm pretty sure it's considered good form to edit rather than repost.  Relatedly, I've seen that people can bump their service thread like once a day or something.  Does editing the last post also generate a bump in the forum listings?


Thanks for the reply. Editing a post doesn't bump the thread only new replies.

You may only bump every 24 hours in the marketplace section. Outside of it there is no rules regarding that, thus "double posting" should not be an issue as long as every post is constructive and contributing to the discussion on its own. Some people prefer to answer to different posts with different posts, while others prefer to do it all in a single long post.
sr. member
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What's the rules on double posting? Doesn't seem to be any discussion on it. But I WOULD of thought there would be a policy which would mean you need to edit rather than posting twice.

Even if there's not an actual rule on this, I'm pretty sure it's considered good form to edit rather than repost.  Relatedly, I've seen that people can bump their service thread like once a day or something.  Does editing the last post also generate a bump in the forum listings?


Thanks for the reply. Editing a post doesn't bump the thread only new replies.
legendary
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I may write code in exchange for bitcoins.
What's the rules on double posting? Doesn't seem to be any discussion on it. But I WOULD of thought there would be a policy which would mean you need to edit rather than posting twice.

Even if there's not an actual rule on this, I'm pretty sure it's considered good form to edit rather than repost.  Relatedly, I've seen that people can bump their service thread like once a day or something.  Does editing the last post also generate a bump in the forum listings?
sr. member
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What's the rules on double posting? Doesn't seem to be any discussion on it. But I WOULD of thought there would be a policy which would mean you need to edit rather than posting twice.
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Thank you for the detailed list.  Roll Eyes
global moderator
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9. Discussions in the main boards must be in english. All other language discussions should be posted in the appropriate Local board.
Please expand on this with a note to the effect that "Automated machine translation, such as using google translate, does not reach the standard required to post in English." or similar. The same can be added for posting in local language boards.


This rule discriminates against those who do not speak english as they are unable to participate in a launch.


My post was deleted - [ANN] [BTA] [BATA] SCRYPT-5 MILIONI di POW-ZERO PREMINE - WWW.BATA.MONEY in the italian section.

It took time that I could otherwise spend on doing something else to create an Announcement only to have it deleted.

Online translation is not the best, but it is better than no translation.

The rule would be fair enough if the Forum had the ability to translate.

I disagree with you, since you are engaging in a business you should consider offering a translation job to users and pay for it. I know here into the forum are some people fluent in both Italian & English that can do the task for an amount of BTC to be determined. Using a free translator to do a business related task just make you & your altcoin look poorly at best, and scammy at worst.
Also in Italian local board only Italian language post are allowed!  Wink


First a coin is not a business, if it was, then it would not be decentralised and paying someone to translate it for a forum is a bit rich in my opinion.


I stand by my opinion and I am entitled to do that.


However, automated translation is still not allowed and I highly doubt it would change.

EDIT: Added the new board to the guidelines:
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Micro Earnings (child board of Service Announcements) - "Faucets, rotators, web based games, and other services that are primarily based on ads and/or micropayments." That includes a lot of websites that payout either dust or near dust amounts of Bitcoin.
legendary
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9. Discussions in the main boards must be in english. All other language discussions should be posted in the appropriate Local board.
Please expand on this with a note to the effect that "Automated machine translation, such as using google translate, does not reach the standard required to post in English." or similar. The same can be added for posting in local language boards.


This rule discriminates against those who do not speak english as they are unable to participate in a launch.


My post was deleted - [ANN] [BTA] [BATA] SCRYPT-5 MILIONI di POW-ZERO PREMINE - WWW.BATA.MONEY in the italian section.

It took time that I could otherwise spend on doing something else to create an Announcement only to have it deleted.

Online translation is not the best, but it is better than no translation.

The rule would be fair enough if the Forum had the ability to translate.

I disagree with you, since you are engaging in a business you should consider offering a translation job to users and pay for it. I know here into the forum are some people fluent in both Italian & English that can do the task for an amount of BTC to be determined. Using a free translator to do a business related task just make you & your altcoin look poorly at best, and scammy at worst.
Also in Italian local board only Italian language post are allowed!  Wink


First a coin is not a business, if it was, then it would not be decentralised and paying someone to translate it for a forum is a bit rich in my opinion.


Is there a list which I am missing that rates and quality rating of all these translators? How do I know that they are translating correctly?


I stand by my opinion and I am entitled to do that, even if it not worth 2 cents Wink

global moderator
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In a world of peaches, don't ask for apple sauce
9. Discussions in the main boards must be in english. All other language discussions should be posted in the appropriate Local board.
Please expand on this with a note to the effect that "Automated machine translation, such as using google translate, does not reach the standard required to post in English." or similar. The same can be added for posting in local language boards.
Added rule 27:

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27. Using automated translation tools to post translated content in Local boards is not allowed.
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9. Discussions in the main boards must be in english. All other language discussions should be posted in the appropriate Local board.
Please expand on this with a note to the effect that "Automated machine translation, such as using google translate, does not reach the standard required to post in English." or similar. The same can be added for posting in local language boards.


This rule discriminates against those who do not speak english as they are unable to participate in a launch.


My post was deleted - [ANN] [BTA] [BATA] SCRYPT-5 MILIONI di POW-ZERO PREMINE - WWW.BATA.MONEY in the italian section.

It took time that I could otherwise spend on doing something else to create an Announcement only to have it deleted.

Online translation is not the best, but it is better than no translation.

The rule would be fair enough if the Forum had the ability to translate.

I disagree with you, since you are engaging in a business you should consider offering a translation job to users and pay for it. I know here into the forum are some people fluent in both Italian & English that can do the task for an amount of BTC to be determined. Using a free translator to do a business related task just make you & your altcoin look poorly at best, and scammy at worst.
Also in Italian local board only Italian language post are allowed!  Wink
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