Topic: Unofficial list of (official) Bitcointalk.org rules, guidelines, FAQ - page 35. (Read 1069157 times)

You spend 50% of your time complaining everyone around you is a shill or an alt, so it seems hypocritical that you want a trust system based on a popularity contest / who has the most accounts.


Its not possible to simultaneously increase the quality of moderators while also adding casual moderators willy nilly. Choose one opinion, they currently contradict.


Was that entirely at random, just off the top of your head? And do you want everything posted on CoinDesk and hotlinked from bitcointalk? Because thats how you get everything posted on CoinDesk and hotlinked from bitcointalk. Not that I've had ads in my guides for months.


As was mentioned elsewhere, simply stating that your post is off topic does not prevent it breaking off topic rules. If you find yourself having to write "off topic" and you know its going to be disruptive, don't post it or find the correct home for it.

On Topic:

We don't need "rules" we need "enforcement". Fair enforcement. A better sticky would be a rating system or evaulation system of Moderators so that we can have some feedback from the community on what we WANT from our mods. The real breakdown is not what is over the line it is the inconsistency of moderation. You want to see improved systems?

Do what students do at the University level:

http://www.oir.uconn.edu/onlineset/onlineset.html

I double dare you to implement this.

Biggest ways to improve the system.

1. Regular feedback and reporting of inconsistency in the moderation activity from the community.
2. Regular review of feedback by the admins of the forum and to train and or remove ineffective moderators.
3. REMOVE THE DEFAULT TRUST and let TRUST be open to all no hierarchy. Too much time is wasted on who is or isn't on the default list.
4. Have a wider range of volunteers as mods not just friends of friends / old boys and have a mentoring system for mods in place.
5. REMOVE ALL PAID SIGNATURES. Causes unusual amount of spam.
6. REMOVE ALL PAID IN THREAD ADS see Dogies guides as an example. Causes an unusual amount of spam.

That alone will help REDUCE the amount of needless moderation required and mods and admins can them work on more pressing issues. Too much time devoted to this is allowing the quality of the forums to degrade. More noise less signal.

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Off Topic:

Removed at the request of Moderators however it was done in protest.

Thank you for the replies. As I said, exposing their scams(if any) is fine and I have no problem but Bicknellski is hijacking most threads IMHO. Maybe, the way I understood about thread-hijacking is wrong.

PatSNL is right.  MZ is, ironically, accusing Bicknellski of breaking a forum rule for being off-topic, but accusations are off-topic here.  So, I have to lol.

Well that really depends on what your opinion of what hijacking a thread is.  If it's posting off-topic, then yes, you are right, that is against the forum rules (in the first post in this thread).  On posting off-topic, I've seen you do that a few times before.  I've seen QS do it as well.  I've seen Dogie do it A LOT.  The mods seem rather selective on who gets in trouble for that.

For another possibility of your definition of hijacking a thread, if for example, I make a thread that it's my opinion that all miner manufacturers must make the outside of their miners purple, and you become the major participate in the thread (but you are posting on-topic), I don't see anything against that, in the rules, nor in my opinion either.

I would think if the intent of your post is about your opinion that Bicknellski is attacking Quickseller and Dogie, that should be posted in Meta and is off-topic in this thread (which is against forum rules).  If the intent of your post is about questioning a user breaking forum rules, I think this is the right place.  You should separate those 2 concepts into the proper board areas, so you don't break the forum rules.

I don't think he is usually successful in hijacking the various threads he posts in so maybe not. I would say that it would be more accurate to say that he is a chronic off topic poster.

Also FWIW, a good number of the threads that he posts about me in would not normally even be read by me if it wasn't for others making me aware of his posts. I think he just likes to slander other people's names.

Isn't Bicknellski* a thread hijacker? He hijack most threads to attack QS and Dogie. Exposing their scams(if any) is ok but he hijacks every threads. I thought this is against forum rule but I don't see any action by mods. I hope he got a warning.

* https://bitcointalksearch.org/user/bicknellski-76550

No you can post everywhere, Newbie jail is no longer active.

So... I am still a newbie member and I can see that I can only post in a few sections (like Beginners & Help) but all other sections are not open to me for posting replies.

Does it mean I will be able to post only in Beginners section until I become a Junior member?

If it qualifies as a "+1" post it probably is considered too low quality to be kept. If its a bit more, e.g. adds a reason why in your opinion this is great news and how you relate to etc. it will probably not get removed. Keep in mind that the idea of this board is to discuss topics. This includes agreeing with someone, but there would a reason why you agree with someone and you should post that.


Yes, thats why I did not read that section for a while. I did start to read there again, but I tend to unwatch posts relatively quick. Its also difficult to judge. Someone might rephrase a post, but add another point or a different perspective on things. Its one of the highest forms of spam if you will and thus hard to detect.

This happens and I have seen it too. I replied to all questions in that post, well, I don't think that would be a spam. However, if a user, for example me, only reply to the last question, it will be a spam but sometimes it won't be a spam. Rephrasing post in simpler words if the first answer is complex or if there is additional valuable information won't be a spam but if a user does this a lot, then these posts will also be considered spam. Shorena already mentioned this:


This sort of behavior is high in Beginners & Help.

Dear Moderators,

Serious question, if I make a post that isn't interesting enough and it gets deleted, is that considered breaking a rule? Is it a rule is to actually make every single post interesting and/or valuable? (in an already existing thread, obviously no "worthless" threads should be started)

I do try to make interesting/valuable posts, but sometimes I might just reply in a positive way about some great event happening. Say, we worked very hard on something for months, "Great news" or something like that, and I notice it gets deleted. Seems bizarre, and totalitarian by any possible objective measure, but if this is to cut down on spam I guess I get it. I just want to understand the logic or bias that is in action here. Thanks for any information. Not trying to break any rules, just want to understand them. This place is strange, sorry, but it is.

Thank you for the feedback.  I appreciate it.