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Topic: Unofficial list of (official) Bitcointalk.org rules, guidelines, FAQ - page 40. (Read 1068889 times)

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Thank you, mprep! You are doing a great job! Smiley

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Edited the OP including a few suggestions by hilariousandco:

-Added the new Gambling child board in the guidelines:

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Investor-based Games (child board of Gambling) - "Games where the main factor is whether or not new "investors" join the game. Also any Bitcoin-denominated investment product with an APY far above the reasonable market rate. " That includes ponzis, HYIP and other "invest and get tons of cash tomorrow" type sites.

-Added a new FAQ question:

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Q: Where can I find all the moderators/staff/administrators?
A: Just go to the Member search page (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=mlist;sa=search), untick all the boxes and then tick "Search by position". To find all regular moderators like board moderators, local moderators or patrollers (site-wide newbie moderators), search for "Staff" (without the quotation marks). To find all global moderators, search for "Global Moderator". To find all admins, search for "Administrator".

Make sure to check you are not dealing with an imposter: real mods have the "Position:" field (or the field bellow their username and above their rank (like 'Member' or "Hero member") when they PM or post) set as either Staff, Global Moderator or Administrator. Also, administrators and global moderators have a half colored last coin when you view the left side of their PM or a post. Admins have a red one and global mods have a light blue colored one.

-Edited in a thread about activity in the FAQ:

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-Added a note at the top of the thread in light of the sticky:

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NOTE: This is meant to serve as a reference/educational/informational thread, NOT a rock solid list of rules.


legendary
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Welcome to the SaltySpitoon, how Tough are ya?
I think it's a good choice though maybe BadBear doesn't agree? I think people should be given a chance to see the rules though, but as with most stickies most people don't seem to read them but I guess they've got no excuse now.

I know we have discussed it in the past, I was even against stickying it, as it was uneccessary, but in light of recent increase in spam ban outrage, hopefully people will see the list of unofficial rules before posting, although I wont hold my breath. That said, thats why I mentioned that I was stickying it in the first place, so if Badbear has a reason to unsticky it, he can do so and knows who to tell why. I really couldn't see any downsides after evaluation, so I figured why not.
legendary
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It might be 'unofficial' but stickying it can seem as officially sanctioning it IMO

You have a point here. Maybe the OP could be "decorated" with a mod note, like those bold red you know Wink, saying that the thread has been stickied not because of any kind of backing or sanctioning but because it's more useful at the top.
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It might be 'unofficial' but stickying it can seem as officially sanctioning it IMO, but I think he just wasn't too keen on that happening but maybe he's relaxed his position on the matter. I think the rules should be clearly stated for people though regardless of if they will try get round them.

A few suggestions: Seems the Investor-based Games section hasn't been added to the list of boards. Could you maybe add a list of staff/mods as well? I think that would be helpful. Maybe adding the activity updates thread to the activity section would be helpful also: https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/til-activity-does-not-work-on-precisely-2-week-intervals-interval-timings-582736
Yeah, I was thinking of adding the new section just now. Will implement the suggestions later today or tomorrow.
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It might be 'unofficial' but stickying it can seem as officially sanctioning it IMO, but I think he just wasn't too keen on that happening but maybe he's relaxed his position on the matter. I think the rules should be clearly stated for people though regardless of if they will try get round them.

A few suggestions: Seems the Investor-based Games section hasn't been added to the list of boards. Could you maybe add a list of staff/mods as well? I think that would be helpful. Maybe adding the activity updates thread to the activity section would be helpful also: https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/til-activity-does-not-work-on-precisely-2-week-intervals-interval-timings-582736
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Just a heads up, I stickied the thread for you. With the thousands of "what did I do wrong?" meta threads popping up, I didn't think that your pretty well documented list of basic rules needed to be fighting for the front page or be bumped daily for people to find it. The poll is pretty overwhelmingly in support, and its pretty clear that it is the unofficial rules, so it doesn't interfere with the necesity for the rules to be flexible to deal with issues on a case by case basis. If there is any concern about this being stickied, direct it at me. At the moment I can't think of a single reason why it shouldn't be, so I acted.

Thanks mprep and contributors.
Thanks. Closed the poll.

I think it's a good choice though maybe BadBear doesn't agree? I think people should be given a chance to see the rules though, but as with most stickies most people don't seem to read them but I guess they've got no excuse now.
As it is stated, I've named it "unofficial" for a reason. It's more of a reference thread rather than something to unquestionably base on. If BadBear sees any sentence that might show otherwise, I will change it so others wouldn't get the wrong idea.
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I think it's a good choice though maybe BadBear doesn't agree? I think people should be given a chance to see the rules though, but as with most stickies most people don't seem to read them but I guess they've got no excuse now.
legendary
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Welcome to the SaltySpitoon, how Tough are ya?
Just a heads up, I stickied the thread for you. With the thousands of "what did I do wrong?" meta threads popping up, I didn't think that your pretty well documented list of basic rules needed to be fighting for the front page or be bumped daily for people to find it. The poll is pretty overwhelmingly in support, and its pretty clear that it is the unofficial rules, so it doesn't interfere with the necesity for the rules to be flexible to deal with issues on a case by case basis. If there is any concern about this being stickied, direct it at me. At the moment I can't think of a single reason why it shouldn't be, so I acted.

Thanks mprep and contributors.
legendary
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better if telling to the member who got banned what their fault,..
the rules must be clear and transparant
and the rules should be placed at the menu homepage if needed,.
so we all here can read
thanks
sr. member
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Bro, you need to try http://dadice.com
Thanks for the post!
It definately should be stickied!
legendary
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To my opinion;

If a person discover a service from service ann. Or from somewhere and introduce it in local forum by translating, he has to share his ref link in his post. But not the signature section coz we use that section for signature campaign.

In the same local forum, if another person opens a thread about the same service and gives his ref link then it might be accepted as a spam but not first ones.

So, in the local forums, it must be free to give ref link if the thread and service is new.


And your opinion would be contrary to forum policy which could potentially result in a ban, or at the very least having your post/thread removed. I say this is the last time I'll say it, but I'm sure I'll end up posting again. You are welcome to your opinion, however thats not how this forum is run. Make your own if you would like to allow spamming. Rules against spamming and illegal content are pretty much the only ones we have here. There needs to be a balance between freedom to post what you like, and not allowing spam which alienates members.

I am trying to explain that it is not a spam. But thank you. At least you answered me.

İs it forbidden to abuse someone?
legendary
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Welcome to the SaltySpitoon, how Tough are ya?
To my opinion;

If a person discover a service from service ann. Or from somewhere and introduce it in local forum by translating, he has to share his ref link in his post. But not the signature section coz we use that section for signature campaign.

In the same local forum, if another person opens a thread about the same service and gives his ref link then it might be accepted as a spam but not first ones.

So, in the local forums, it must be free to give ref link if the thread and service is new.


And your opinion would be contrary to forum policy which could potentially result in a ban, or at the very least having your post/thread removed. I say this is the last time I'll say it, but I'm sure I'll end up posting again. You are welcome to your opinion, however thats not how this forum is run. Make your own if you would like to allow spamming. Rules against spamming and illegal content are pretty much the only ones we have here. There needs to be a balance between freedom to post what you like, and not allowing spam which alienates members.
legendary
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To my opinion;

If a person discover a service from service ann. Or from somewhere and introduce it in local forum by translating, he has to share his ref link in his post. But not the signature section coz we use that section for signature campaign.

In the same local forum, if another person opens a thread about the same service and gives his ref link then it might be accepted as a spam but not first ones.

So, in the local forums, it must be free to give ref link if the thread and service is new.
legendary
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Welcome to the SaltySpitoon, how Tough are ya?
Dont remind me the rules guy. This is not my rules. This is moderators rules and i dont accept theese rules. If we believe the philosophy of bitcoin then we need to create new rules. Coz theese rules centralize but Bitcoin decentralize. Everyone needs to say  his mind aboutthe rules. Moderators just create rules,delete posts and ban users? Is that all you do? If you moderator you have to solve my problem

See, theres a difference between a decentralized currency, and a forum about that decentralized currency. If you want to create a forum that has no rules at all, you are welcome to, but I'd highly recommend a really really good lawyer, as people can post some pretty.... interesting stuff that you can be held liable for as the owner of the site. There are indeed rules here, however I and most others believe they are pretty relaxed, the fact that most rules aren't hardfast (the reason for this list of unofficial rules) is because it's a lot better to leave judgements up to a group of freethinking individuals, rather than a slab with forum policy inscribed. The fact that moderators are seen more as janitors is probably a good indicator that all in all everything is running well.

While we don't have to solve your problems, if they are related to an issue on this forum, then chances are we would like to help. Ask in an appropriate way, and you will get a response regardless of whether we can help you or not.

If your problem is that you would like to break a rule, but we are stopping you, thats not one of those things we can really help. First off, everyone above is correct, you aren't allowed to have multiple threads of the same topic. Second, referal links are more often than not removed. If you are creating a thread to share your referal link, its spam. Pretty much the only exception to when referal links are not spam, is if someone else starts a thread, for instance asking what exchange they should use. And you respond with a quality post with content related to the OP, include a referal link and say, if you want to try this exchange, heres my referal link, that is fine. You are right, people have the right to click on someone's referal link if they want. Priority however is held with having the right to not have to deal with spam, and also the right not to be tricked into clicking a referal link.

If you don't agree, theres not really much more to be said, make your own lawless forum, and I wish you luck.
hero member
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If you are modetator then you are my servant. And go and find another forum
I am not sure why you think this. Moderators serve the entire community as a whole, not individuals.

You should really thank moderators as they work to keep the forum clean from spam, and other worthless posts.
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You dont understand me sir. Ok you are right. I ll sleep now but be back later and we are gonna discuss again. Think of me.  Bye

Ok. Will do bbe. Look forward to it. Sweet dreamz Xxx.
legendary
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If you are modetator then you are my servant. And go and find another forum
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Moderators have to serve public not to just ban users
Yes, we serve the public, but that doesn't meant we will do whatever you want from us.

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This is moderators rules and i dont accept theese rules.
Well, bad luck. We aren't your servants and if you don't like it, kindly piss off and find another forum. 
legendary
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You dont understand me sir. Ok you are right. I ll sleep now but be back later and we are gonna discuss again. Think of me.  Bye
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