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Topic: Usagi: falsifying NAVs, manipulating share prices and misleading investors. - page 14. (Read 92656 times)

vip
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Fuck off weirdo.

What...

Are you lying? Usagi did not admitted what you alleged:

Usagi contacted me on irc and said they have access to all the bitcoinglobal meeting logs.

Moreover, you did not participate in that chat? Where is your nickname? Where is the details between the parenthesis when Usagi quit?

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[2012-11-05 18:30] * shilohsandi (~parmablac@unaffiliated/kalacoa) Quit
hero member
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Wat
I got a pm from them.

Who is 'them'?

I dont normally log anything from irc but saved this one sided convo as a text file. of course I cant prove anything which is why I never made a thread about it.

That is not usual. IRC software always record logs of every chat, even private.

Quote from: Bitcoin Oz link=topic=113708.msg1372073#msg1372073date=1354405559

There is no date or time in that log. If you have the file saved, then you can upload in the Internet to anyone verify the time-stamp.

Fuck off weirdo.
vip
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I got a pm from them.

Who is 'them'?

I dont normally log anything from irc but saved this one sided convo as a text file. of course I cant prove anything which is why I never made a thread about it.

That is not usual. IRC software always record logs of every chat, even private.

Quote from: Bitcoin Oz link=topic=113708.msg1372073#msg1372073date=1354405559

There is no date or time in that log. If you have the file saved, then you can upload in the Internet to anyone verify the time-stamp.
hero member
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Wat
Usagi contacted me on irc and said they have access to all the bitcoinglobal meeting logs.

I believe they are in a conspiracy with nefario to defraud the users and the other shareholders. They need to explain why they have access to such company info if they are not a BG shareholder.

Show the IRC log where Usagi admits that. You certainly have the log if the chat was by IRC.

I got a pm from them. I dont normally log anything from irc but saved this one sided convo as a text file. of course I cant prove anything which is why I never made a thread about it.

http://pastebin.com/rqWiXQ8d
vip
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Usagi contacted me on irc and said they have access to all the bitcoinglobal meeting logs.

I believe they are in a conspiracy with nefario to defraud the users and the other shareholders. They need to explain why they have access to such company info if they are not a BG shareholder.

Show the IRC log where Usagi admits that. You certainly have the log if the chat was by IRC.
hero member
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Wat
Blackmail.

If they contain anything of substance then he should release them and let the chips fall where they may.  Put up or shut up usagi - either release them or explain why you're not going to (in which case there was no point in mentioning that you had access to them at all).

To make themselves look important.....

fwiw I was operating in good faith with BG not realising that the entire time it was the huge scam its turned out to be. I believe nefario was working with usagi and other asset issuers the whole time so that they could avoid their responsibilities and get away free and clear.

The fact usagi had the irc minutes at all says there was something dodgy going on. usagi needs to explain who gave him those minutes and why, and when they had access to them, because it goes to insider trading and conspiracy.

hero member
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Blackmail.

If they contain anything of substance then he should release them and let the chips fall where they may.  Put up or shut up usagi - either release them or explain why you're not going to (in which case there was no point in mentioning that you had access to them at all).
hero member
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Wat
Usagi contacted me on irc and said they have access to all the bitcoinglobal meeting logs.

I believe they are in a conspiracy with nefario to defraud the users and the other shareholders. They need to explain why they have access to such company info if they are not a BG shareholder.

If he has access to the logs, then why isn't he releasing them?  What's he hoping to achieve by telling you he has access to them?



Blackmail.
hero member
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Usagi contacted me on irc and said they have access to all the bitcoinglobal meeting logs.

I believe they are in a conspiracy with nefario to defraud the users and the other shareholders. They need to explain why they have access to such company info if they are not a BG shareholder.

If he has access to the logs, then why isn't he releasing them?  What's he hoping to achieve by telling you he has access to them?
hero member
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Wat
Usagi contacted me on irc and said they have access to all the bitcoinglobal meeting logs.

I believe they are in a conspiracy with nefario to defraud the users and the other shareholders. They need to explain why they have access to such company info if they are not a BG shareholder.
legendary
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Sir;

I could not resist pointing out that literally the very post you made before contains the sort of mistake you are now criticizing Augstocroppo for. It's kind of funny that you would criticize someone for a simple and obvious spelling mistake, right after you had made one yourself...

Usagi, post your public information first. What's your name Olivier?

So are you saying your name isn't Olivier? It wasn't a spelling mistake, prove me wrong? Post your ID card.

You're a canadian. Right? A lot of Canadian are francophones. I spelled it correctly.

Our confused princess Usagi is also known as Oliver Richman. At least he was publishing some books under that name and yes, he is from Canada.
He also used a name Appledog, usagi, tsukino and so on (posted that few pages back) and he managed to make a complete ass out of himself in other forums (some fighting shit, etc). He was doing the same he did here -  teaching everyone something he just learned. Here it was investing and how to run a insurance business. LOL!
As a result, he pissed away about 8000 BTC worth of investors money and now he blames bad weather, PITA and what not but not his stupid decisions he kept making over and over again.  
So, this shit is not new for our confused man_girl in pink tutu, who has pranced around the internet and telling lies to everyone who cares to listen.
BTW, he can play Go. Same time he can not make simple calculations and come up with correct price for a shares - lying about the share value or value of equity in portfolio is not something that can be taken lightly (or moderators do not understand it for some reason)
If anyone is still confused why this little shitbird is getting hard time from forum members, flip back few pages and read. He as lied countless times, accused people without any proof, deleted all his bullshit from this forum and so on and on.

Why is he not with a scammer tag? I have no idea.
Moderators, what else do you need to make a decision and protect new members from this lunatic?  

PS! Do not mind augustocroppo, he is a know troll. He is mad because his imaginary wife has put some horns on his head. Oops...
hero member
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Sir;

I could not resist pointing out that literally the very post you made before contains the sort of mistake you are now criticizing Augstocroppo for. It's kind of funny that you would criticize someone for a simple and obvious spelling mistake, right after you had made one yourself...

Usagi, post your public information first. What's your name Olivier?

So are you saying your name isn't Olivier? It wasn't a spelling mistake, prove me wrong? Post your ID card.

You're a canadian. Right? A lot of Canadian are francophones. I spelled it correctly.


vip
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I am still trying to figure out your non-sense:

So does you.

Sir;

I could not resist pointing out that literally the very post you made before contains the sort of mistake you are now criticizing Augstocroppo for. It's kind of funny that you would criticize someone for a simple and obvious spelling mistake, right after you had made one yourself...

Usagi, post your public information first. What's your name Olivier?
hero member
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False? Where is it false. One of the steps of fraud is a false statement.

Yes, false accusation.

Second step if there any motive: usagi did it for profit.
Third step if there are any victims: there are.
Fourth step if there any cover up: usagi tried to wipe all of his statements.

There was no motive. There was no victim. There was no cover up.

You accusation is false.

Really? Is that the best you can come up with? LOL!

You see - I am right and you're wrong. Get lost.

You are delusional.

Am I? I am still trying to figure out your non-sense:

and have instead decided to blow a simple mistake in wording way out of proportion. At no time was there ever an intent to deceive because the actual formula was shown in immediately readable form on the spreadsheet.

You agree that it was one mistake. Let's see that any of your investors would like a refund due to your mistake.

So does you.
vip
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False? Where is it false. One of the steps of fraud is a false statement.

Yes, false accusation.

Second step if there any motive: usagi did it for profit.
Third step if there are any victims: there are.
Fourth step if there any cover up: usagi tried to wipe all of his statements.

There was no motive. There was no victim. There was no cover up.

You accusation is false.

You see - I am right and you're wrong. Get lost.

You are delusional.
vip
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The many threads on this board from which usagi has deleted 1000+ posts are the evidence.

You are admitting there is evidence in the lack of evidence. This persistent refusal will not change the facts. Usagi has already explained how he calculated the NAVs. Usagi even accepted a few suggestions that were made to improve his calculations. If he was falsifying the NAVs of his companies, there was enough time for any user to verify the data available. That did not happen. No scammer tag was issued. Usagi was not falsifying the NAV of his companies.

I know usagi falsified NAVs because I read the discussions between usagi and many other forum members. Did you?

You are certain that Usagi falsified numeric results because you read the discussion between two parties. In other words, you did not verified the evidence, you just read about the evidence. This demonstrate you are making an accusation based on mere allegations, without any substantial material to prove you are correct.

Because you are not even willing or able to interpret the contract between BMF and CPA and agree or disagree that it was violated.

I have already read that contract many times when this thread was started. Usagi has already explained that contract was made null. No shareholder came forward to settle a dispute. No violation happened. A scammer tag was not issued. Usagi was not defrauding his shareholders.

Which BTW was the point where I completely stopped taking you seriously. You can be proud of that, because not many people have achieved this.

You have no point. You pretend there is evidence when there is no evidence. You are delusional.

Yes, I am accusing usagi.

You see, this is called answering questions. An ability you and usagi seem to lack.

Your accusation is false.
hero member
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In cryptography we trust
Dude, you are absolutely clueless and you have no idea wtf was going on and is going on.
Please, strop trolling this thread. Your hysterical rants add no value to this discussion.

So, explain to me, what is 'going on'?

IRL someone would have slapped you in the face long time ago.
vip
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Dude, you are absolutely clueless and you have no idea wtf was going on and is going on.
Please, strop trolling this thread. Your hysterical rants add no value to this discussion.

So, explain to me, what is 'going on'?
hero member
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and have instead decided to blow a simple mistake in wording way out of proportion. At no time was there ever an intent to deceive because the actual formula was shown in immediately readable form on the spreadsheet.

You agree that it was one mistake. Let's see that any of your investors would like a refund due to your mistake.

So does you.

Huh?
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