Topic: Vaccinated vs. Unvaccinated: Guess who is Sicker? - page 19. (Read 45532 times)

That's not an argument. The government doesn't meet its legal obligations regarding many things many times, it doesn't mean vaccines are harmful on purpose which is what is being argued here. I still don't know what your position is at all, you just came here and said some stupid things about scientific theories and then went on saying the same thing over and over again, thinking that you are way smarter than the others LUL :^)

Stick to your other discussions, this isn't for you...

I made plenty of statements, specifically regarding the fact that the government is not meeting its legal obligations in safety reporting as shown by the FOIA suit discussed earlier. Who the fuck made you the grand arbiter of what positions I must take? You are just pissed you can't write off every argument I make as a conspiracy theory like you do with him.

You never made any statement, this thread is about vaccines and if they work or if the government is poisoning us, you never made your position clear, you are clearly afraid to do so, sorry to say but you are almost worse than badecker at this point, at least he is not a pussy.

You do whatever mental gymnastics you need to to feel better about yourself. You stated "you nutjobs will just say the same old, ''it's fake'' ''it's a hoax'' ''those statistics are made up by the government'', and I never said any of those things. You don't get to make up arguments then demand I support them. Its more like me making documented statements of fact, you not having any good reply so you have to attribute bad arguments of others to me. Any conclusions I made I had previously already clearly stated.

Rofl, I don't think you understood what he said. It's like me saying the average height in USA is 5'9 and frogs are animals and then yelling HARD FACTS!!111 But what was the point of any of those ''hard facts'' what's the conclusion?

And when did I say either of you were wrong? Who said it was a unique ability? This is simply the method of debate I choose. How about you stop mindlessly postulating about my personal character and level of conditioning and get back to the topic at hand Captain Shortpants?

For the sake of aurgument, let's grant that you have this unique ability to emit exclusively rock solid facts and nothing but.  So what?  What are they even good for without some sort of a hypothesis to test?

You've got some puzzle pieces to play with but you don't know what to do with them because you don't understand the concept of a puzzle...or more likely are conditioned to deny the existence of such a thing or at least have an allergy to the act of working on one.

You many get lucky and live to be my age, but it is more likely if, somehow, you become a little bit more skeptical.

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BADecker is coming through with more and more hard-hitting facts.  I followed one of his links to a story about the so-called 'Spanish Flu' of 1918.  Even before I was a 'conspiracy theorist' I'd read about some oddities with that one.  Some years ago I was reading a hypothesis that since it originated in Ft. Riley where they where raising a lot of livestock for the war effort it probably came from that operation.  It was news to me that the Rockefeller Institute was also there and busy injecting some of the troops with horse pus in order to see what happened to them.  Not terribly surprising news though.

Oh please do go back into my statements in this thread and quote EXACTLY anything I stated that is not a hard fact. I will wait. All your horse shit that you are attributing to me, that I never said does not count.



Adult diapers count as short pants too...

Here I am printing the abstract of a new study: “Aluminium in brain tissue in autism.” The publication is Journal of Trace Elements in Medicine and Biology.

The authors of the study are associated with The Birchall Centre, Lennard-Jones Laboratories, Keele University, Staffordshire, UK; Life Sciences, Keele University; and the Department of Clinical Neuropathology, Kings College Hospital, London, UK.

The findings? Shockingly high levels of aluminum were found in these brain samples. It’s widely acknowledged that aluminum can enter the brain and disrupt its functions.

Of course, aluminum is present in many vaccines.

Here is the abstract of the study. I’ve put several statements in caps for emphasis:

“Autism spectrum disorder is a neurodevelopmental disorder of unknown aetiology. It is suggested to involve both genetic susceptibility and environmental factors including in the latter environmental toxins. Human exposure to the environmental toxin aluminium has been linked, if tentatively, to autism spectrum disorder. Herein we have used transversely heated graphite furnace atomic absorption spectrometry to measure, for the first time, the aluminium content of brain tissue from donors with a diagnosis of autism. We have also used an aluminium-selective fluor to identify aluminium in brain tissue using fluorescence microscopy. THE ALUMINIUM CONTENT OF BRAIN TISSUE IN AUTISM WAS CONSISTENTLY HIGH. The mean (standard deviation) aluminium content across all 5 individuals for each lobe were 3.82(5.42), 2.30(2.00), 2.79(4.05) and 3.82(5.17) μg/g dry wt. for the occipital, frontal, temporal and parietal lobes respectively. THESE ARE SOME OF THE HIGHEST VALUES FOR ALUMINIUM IN HUMAN BRAIN TISSUE YET RECORDED AND ONE HAS TO QUESTION WHY, FOR EXAMPLE, THE ALUMINIUM CONTENT OF THE OCCIPITAL LOBE OF A 15 YEAR OLD BOY WOULD BE 8.74 (11.59) μg/g dry wt.? Aluminium-selective fluorescence microscopy was used to identify aluminium in brain tissue in 10 donors [10 donors or 5, as mentioned above?]. While aluminium was imaged associated with neurones it appeared to be present intracellularly in microglia-like cells and other inflammatory non-neuronal cells in the meninges, vasculature, grey and white matter. The pre-eminence of intracellular aluminium associated with non-neuronal cells was a standout observation in autism brain tissue and may offer clues as to both the origin of the brain aluminium as well as a putative role in autism spectrum disorder.”

Film producer Del Bigtree’s organization, the Informed Consent Action Network (ICAN), and Robert F. Kennedy, Jr. sued the United States government as they suspected that Health and Human Services (HHS) was not fulfilling its critical vaccine safety obligations as required by Congress under the The National Childhood Vaccine Injury Act of 1986.  Congress charged the Secretary of HHS with the responsibility to assure vaccine safety and to submit reports to them every two years.  Because the law essentially gave blanket economic immunity from liability claims to vaccine manufacturers, it removed the incentive to take responsibility for vaccine safety.  ICAN and Kennedy brought a lawsuit against HHS to provide copies of these reports to Congress, and HHS was forced to admit it has filed zero reports to Congress about vaccine safety over the past 32 years!  This outrageous dereliction of duty shows that HHS has kept Congress, and the public, in the dark over the dangers of vaccines, and information about the masses of vaccine-injured children.  HHS recommends babies receive 39 vaccine doses, including in-utero, by age one, but have failed to report on the danger, which is beyond shameful!

The U.S. Department of Health and Human Services (HHS) has admitted that, in direct violation of Federal law, it failed to provide a single vaccine safety report to Congress for thirty years, according to Informed Consent Action Network (ICAN).

Have you ever heard of the Dunning kruger effect, TECSHARE?

Hard facts eh? How do you know what a hard fact is? If I present any statistical evidence about vaccines doing what they are supposed to do, you nutjobs will just say the same old, ''it's fake'' ''it's a hoax'' ''those statistics are made up by the government''

Hard facts lmao.

Who hasn't, dipshit.

And just FYI, grampy TS, I'm over 50.

Have you ever heard of the Dunning kruger effect, TECSHARE?

Hard facts eh? How do you know what a hard fact is? If I present any statistical evidence about vaccines doing what they are supposed to do, you nutjobs will just say the same old, ''it's fake'' ''it's a hoax'' ''those statistics are made up by the government''

Hard facts lmao.

Have you ever heard of the Dunning kruger effect, TECSHARE?
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If one won't 'theorize' then one does not have any hope of understanding anything.  One simply has no avenues to explore.  All one can do is regurgitate 'facts' about the way things work as presented by whoever you choose to rely upon.  Relevant to this thread, that would be the FDA, CDC, etc for most of the participants.  So, yes, 'theorizing' is a habit that I enjoy and will continue.

You are relatively good at critical thinking and separating 'facts' from bogus quasi-claims of facts, but certainly don't have anywhere near the god-like powers that you seem to ascribe to yourself.  And here on trolltalk with the likes of Astergath and Dr. Spamzalot hanging around, being able to smoke them out is a bit like being the thinnest kid at fat camp.

Anyway, it is a source of interest to me why someone with your at least modest level of analytical abilities continues to put his full faith and confidence into the benevolence of our medical/industrial complex and is allergic to the hypothesis that whatever suspect actions they take could be anything more than an accident.  I have 'theories' about it, but they are only of academic interest.  Shrug.  Go get maimed and have an expensive and painful death with the rest of them I guess.  I'll continue to 'theorize' about the mechanics behind this all-to-common tragicomic event.

You are relatively good at critical thinking and separating 'facts' from bogus quasi-claims of facts, but certainly don't have anywhere near the god-like powers that you seem to ascribe to yourself.

Lol. Stop acting like you know a damned thing about me. Personally in subjects like these I find it unproductive to discuss anything but hard facts. You keep theorizing if it makes you feel better though.

Seems to me that TECSHARE is one of the many who's conditioning was mostly successful.  He's not a fawning groupie of the CDC like you, Astergath, but he cannot shake the deeply implanted notion that Big Brother loves him even though most of the actually evidence points to the hypothesis that it is not the case.  Or at best that BB displays his love for his peeps in a counter-intuitive and personally dangerous way.

One of the most powerful tools that the social engineers have is a fear of rejection.  Humans are wired to avoid group rejection because for most of our history it would have been incompatible with life and with reproduction.  TECHSHARE, like most other 'normies', is very concerned about being labeled a 'conspiracy theorist'.

For my part I wear the 'conspiracy theorist' label as a badge of honor.  Eventually, as more and more of these 'conspiracy theories' turn out to be spot-on and in retrospect as obvious as the nose on one's face, having been a 'conspiracy theorist' back in the day won't be such a big deal.

''The conclusion is the government is not following the law.'' The conclusion is that the government did not follow the law on that specific case on those specific reports. However, the first argument was ''government doesn't give a shit about safety reports because of this lawsuit'' That's simply not true as shown above. I don't know what your argument is, this thread is about vaccines being bad for you intentionally. Are you sure you know what your position is?

''The conclusion is the government is not following the law.'' The conclusion is that the government did not follow the law on that specific case on those specific reports. However, the first argument was ''government doesn't give a shit about safety reports because of this lawsuit'' That's simply not true as shown above. I don't know what your argument is, this thread is about vaccines being bad for you intentionally. Are you sure you know what your position is?