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Goes over my head tbh why wouldn't you vaccine. Like you have all the vaccines for tick bites that can make you pretty much brain dead and why would I turn this down? Happened to my friend, luckily found out in the early stage that he has it and doesn't have much damage from the tick, but he's still not quite the same and I'm sure vaccine would have made a huge difference.
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Kinda like back in 1977 or thereabouts, when the doctors in Orange County, CA, went on strike for a month, and there were 50% fewer deaths in Orange County that month.
Kinda like back in 1977 or thereabouts, when the doctors in Orange County, CA, went on strike for a month, and there were 50% fewer deaths in Orange County that month.
Lol! Why am I not surprised? Doesn't seem to be an isolated incident either:
https://www.bostonglobe.com/ideas/2016/02/09/hoskins/QhjVuBHqnrjrT0wSeWRJII/story.html
From: http://www.qcc.cuny.edu/SocialSciences/ppecorino/MEDICAL_ETHICS_TEXT/Chapter_3_Moral_Climate_of_Health_Care/Reading-Death-Rate-Doctor-Strike.htm
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DOCTORS ON STRIKE
Whenever medical doctors go on strike, a most interesting phenomenon occurs - death rates go down! In 1976 in Bogota, Columbia medical doctors went on strike for 52 days, with only emergency care available. The death rate dropped by 35%. In 1976 in Los Angeles County a similar doctors' strike resulted in an 18% drop in mortality. As soon as the strike was over, the death rate went back to normal. A 50% decrease in mortality occurred in Israel in 1973 when there was a one month doctor's strike!
Whenever medical doctors go on strike, a most interesting phenomenon occurs - death rates go down! In 1976 in Bogota, Columbia medical doctors went on strike for 52 days, with only emergency care available. The death rate dropped by 35%. In 1976 in Los Angeles County a similar doctors' strike resulted in an 18% drop in mortality. As soon as the strike was over, the death rate went back to normal. A 50% decrease in mortality occurred in Israel in 1973 when there was a one month doctor's strike!
I'm sensing that Doctors are commonly admitted 'into the club' and are given certain protections as long as they are acting in the interest of the 'club owners.' The minority who take an active interest in understanding the end goals and show zeal in the game-play are given seats on various boards (e.g., the boards who decide what to inject into the kiddies.) The same is even more true of 'scientists'.
There are all kinds of reports with regard to vaccines. Some of the reports report on laws. Some report that the laws are being carried out. Let's see some of the reports on the actual vaccine testing that provides info that shows that they are safe. We don't want reports that say the tests show that vaccines are safe. We want the actual test reports that show how the tests were done, what they included, how many people were tested, the ways that they were tested, what their blood type was, etc., the real tests, themselves.
All you say is that some tests were done and there are reports. Show us one with the information of where we can go on the net to look at it. You know, a real test. Not just the report that on such and such a date a test was done.
For those who don't know, the way to do a proper study is as follows:
- Produce the 'protocols' before the study begins. These are the details of exactly how the study will be performed. Interested parties should negotiate and agree on the protocols and on the interpretations possible from the study. One of the key elements of the protocols would be sample selection.
- Perform the study adhering strictly to the protocols. If for some reason the protocols cannot be adhered to, the study should terminate and start again from scratch.
The 'final word' from the CDC on the autism-vaccine connection came from a study performed many years ago. The study is somewhat problematic from the get-go because it was designed and negotiated in-house without oversight.
Worse, the CDC modified the protocols when it turned out that there was a statistically relevant link between autism and young African American boys. The 'trick' was to reduce the sample size in order to nullify the statistical interpretations possible.
Worse yet, the data was physically destroyed (but for a copy retained by a whistle-blower) and the results that were engineered became the basis for defending the vaccine programs in court. That is, depriving relief to damaged victims, and allowing the vaccination programs to proceed (and indeed grow exponentially!)
In my humble opinion, any 'data' or 'studies' having anything to do with the CDC or any agency who is so corrupt has a value of almost zero when it comes to analysis of the issues.
Thank you for this.
Kinda like back in 1977 or thereabouts, when the doctors in Orange County, CA, went on strike for a month, and there were 50% fewer deaths in Orange County that month.
There are all kinds of reports with regard to vaccines. Some of the reports report on laws. Some report that the laws are being carried out. Let's see some of the reports on the actual vaccine testing that provides info that shows that they are safe. We don't want reports that say the tests show that vaccines are safe. We want the actual test reports that show how the tests were done, what they included, how many people were tested, the ways that they were tested, what their blood type was, etc., the real tests, themselves.
All you say is that some tests were done and there are reports. Show us one with the information of where we can go on the net to look at it. You know, a real test. Not just the report that on such and such a date a test was done.
For those who don't know, the way to do a proper study is as follows:
- Produce the 'protocols' before the study begins. These are the details of exactly how the study will be performed. Interested parties should negotiate and agree on the protocols and on the interpretations possible from the study. One of the key elements of the protocols would be sample selection.
- Perform the study adhering strictly to the protocols. If for some reason the protocols cannot be adhered to, the study should terminate and start again from scratch.
The 'final word' from the CDC on the autism-vaccine connection came from a study performed many years ago. The study is somewhat problematic from the get-go because it was designed and negotiated in-house without oversight.
Worse, the CDC modified the protocols when it turned out that there was a statistically relevant link between autism and young African American boys. The 'trick' was to reduce the sample size in order to nullify the statistical interpretations possible.
Worse yet, the data was physically destroyed (but for a copy retained by a whistle-blower) and the results that were engineered became the basis for defending the vaccine programs in court. That is, depriving relief to damaged victims, and allowing the vaccination programs to proceed (and indeed grow exponentially!)
In my humble opinion, any 'data' or 'studies' having anything to do with the CDC or any agency who is so corrupt has a value of almost zero when it comes to analysis of the issues.
To me what best explains the observations is that vaccines work. Disease are at an all time low and every time vaccines were introduced those diseases were heavily affected by them. It's not just hygiene, clearly not. I don't know what you think the cause is, you can look at statistics of any disease that was treated with vaccines.
So the observation that the regulatory agencies have not produced the reports about the safety of vaccines that they were mandated to do is explained by the hypothesis that vaccines are safe?
To me a hypothesis that they are unsafe, but the authorities want to deploy them anyway (for some reason) and they simply did not do the studies or did the studies and hid the results is a hypothesis which fits the observations better.
It is an important principle in scientific exploration that when a source of information has proven unreliable in one instance, all information provided by that source is to be devalued. This includes past and future information from the source. In my opinion, the 'government certified' data about vaccines is in this category. Very much so. This is why you and I are at loggerheads about some of this stuff.
Unlike most of my skeptical peers here, I find it a compelling hypothesis that the social engineers currently in charge actually wish to damage ordinary citizens in certain ways, or are at best ambivalent about doing so if it helps achieve other objectives. Examples: building wealth, maintaining control, meeting certain population density targets, etc.
Unlike some of my other skeptical peers here, I 'believe in' the theory of evolution and can speak coherently with others who have proficiency in scientific exploration. You can take that for what it's worth.
''regulatory agencies have not produced the reports about the safety of vaccines'' This is simply not true. You guys keep talking about some missing reports when there are many many more reports about safety of vaccines.
''the National Vaccine Advisory Committee (NVAC), established in 1987, has had regular meetings and published regular reports about vaccine safety''
''a number of other vaccine safety oversight advisory committees and government groups were established, including the Advisory Commission on Childhood Vaccines, the Advisory Committee on Immunization Practices (ACIP), the Microbiology and Infectious Diseases Review Advisory Committee (MIDRAC) of NIAID, and the Vaccines and Related Biological Products Advisory Committee, with the Vaccine Interagency Group of the National Vaccine Program Office providing overall coordination. They all report to the Secretary of HHS''
And more and more and more but of course if there is only 1 instance of some reports missing somewhere, that's absolute proof vaccines are not safe. Give me a break.
There are all kinds of reports with regard to vaccines. Some of the reports report on laws. Some report that the laws are being carried out. Let's see some of the reports on the actual vaccine testing that provides info that shows that they are safe. We don't want reports that say the tests show that vaccines are safe. We want the actual test reports that show how the tests were done, what they included, how many people were tested, the ways that they were tested, what their blood type was, etc., the real tests, themselves.
All you say is that some tests were done and there are reports. Show us one with the information of where we can go on the net to look at it. You know, a real test. Not just the report that on such and such a date a test was done.
So the observation that the regulatory agencies have not produced the reports about the safety of vaccines that they were mandated to do...
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''regulatory agencies have not produced the reports about the safety of vaccines'' This is simply not true. You guys keep talking about some missing reports when there are many many more reports about safety of vaccines.
Most readers who are intelligent enough to actually matter can easily spot these ham-handed and simplistic methods of trying to 'win' an argument. We've all seen them 1000 times, and often use them as a flag to make certain inferences.
You don't seem as interested in an intellectual analysis of some of the questions as you do simply and desperately promoting the corp/gov party line. That in and of itself is an interesting observation.
To me what best explains the observations is that vaccines work. Disease are at an all time low and every time vaccines were introduced those diseases were heavily affected by them. It's not just hygiene, clearly not. I don't know what you think the cause is, you can look at statistics of any disease that was treated with vaccines.
So the observation that the regulatory agencies have not produced the reports about the safety of vaccines that they were mandated to do is explained by the hypothesis that vaccines are safe?
To me a hypothesis that they are unsafe, but the authorities want to deploy them anyway (for some reason) and they simply did not do the studies or did the studies and hid the results is a hypothesis which fits the observations better.
It is an important principle in scientific exploration that when a source of information has proven unreliable in one instance, all information provided by that source is to be devalued. This includes past and future information from the source. In my opinion, the 'government certified' data about vaccines is in this category. Very much so. This is why you and I are at loggerheads about some of this stuff.
Unlike most of my skeptical peers here, I find it a compelling hypothesis that the social engineers currently in charge actually wish to damage ordinary citizens in certain ways, or are at best ambivalent about doing so if it helps achieve other objectives. Examples: building wealth, maintaining control, meeting certain population density targets, etc.
Unlike some of my other skeptical peers here, I 'believe in' the theory of evolution and can speak coherently with others who have proficiency in scientific exploration. You can take that for what it's worth.
''regulatory agencies have not produced the reports about the safety of vaccines'' This is simply not true. You guys keep talking about some missing reports when there are many many more reports about safety of vaccines.
''the National Vaccine Advisory Committee (NVAC), established in 1987, has had regular meetings and published regular reports about vaccine safety''
''a number of other vaccine safety oversight advisory committees and government groups were established, including the Advisory Commission on Childhood Vaccines, the Advisory Committee on Immunization Practices (ACIP), the Microbiology and Infectious Diseases Review Advisory Committee (MIDRAC) of NIAID, and the Vaccines and Related Biological Products Advisory Committee, with the Vaccine Interagency Group of the National Vaccine Program Office providing overall coordination. They all report to the Secretary of HHS''
And more and more and more but of course if there is only 1 instance of some reports missing somewhere, that's absolute proof vaccines are not safe. Give me a break.
To me what best explains the observations is that vaccines work. Disease are at an all time low and every time vaccines were introduced those diseases were heavily affected by them. It's not just hygiene, clearly not. I don't know what you think the cause is, you can look at statistics of any disease that was treated with vaccines.
So the observation that the regulatory agencies have not produced the reports about the safety of vaccines that they were mandated to do is explained by the hypothesis that vaccines are safe?
To me a hypothesis that they are unsafe, but the authorities want to deploy them anyway (for some reason) and they simply did not do the studies or did the studies and hid the results is a hypothesis which fits the observations better.
It is an important principle in scientific exploration that when a source of information has proven unreliable in one instance, all information provided by that source is to be devalued. This includes past and future information from the source. In my opinion, the 'government certified' data about vaccines is in this category. Very much so. This is why you and I are at loggerheads about some of this stuff.
Unlike most of my skeptical peers here, I find it a compelling hypothesis that the social engineers currently in charge actually wish to damage ordinary citizens in certain ways, or are at best ambivalent about doing so if it helps achieve other objectives. Examples: building wealth, maintaining control, meeting certain population density targets, etc.
Unlike some of my other skeptical peers here, I 'believe in' the theory of evolution and can speak coherently with others who have proficiency in scientific exploration. You can take that for what it's worth.
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''Yes, vaccines are working very well to get the victim 'configured', but there is always room for fine-tuning. '' Prove it, you guys can't even agree with each other. Some of you say vaccines are there to kill us long term, some of you are saying they simply don't work, etc etc, just conspiracy theories, which one is it?
It's simply the hypothesis which best explains the breadth of the observations. Matches what 'they' said they were going to do with vaccines (use 'injections' at an early age to produce the kinds of people with the kinds of attitudes which are desirable to the leadership.) It matches the observations that the regulatory agencies are not doing shit and the revolving door between 'government' regulators and pharma corporation's executive staff. It matches how the 'science' about vaccine safety is non-existent and in it's place are bogus platitudes which don't stand to even the most modest of scrutiny. In short it matches exactly what we see all around us in society.
The counter argument from people like you is that vaccines are good because the government says they are good and they stop anyone who says otherwise so there is no 'credible' evidence to the contrary. And we all know how much Big Brother loves us so anything he says is the word of gospel with no further evidence required, right?
There is no reason for me to agree with 'the others' or them with me. I call it like I see it. I'm not the kind of person who needs to join a crowd, much less a majority, in order to feel secure. Somehow my conditioning and my 'configuration' didn't work quite right. Thank you God!
I agree with BadDecker on quite a lot on this thread. I especially got a kick out of his observation that our government is more than happy to kill Yemeni kids by the busload but somehow when a kid happens to be standing on American soil they lose all of their psychopathic tendencies and bend over backward to protect every hair on the kid's head. Why on earth would you believe that? You would have to be completely brainwashed to actually believe such a nonsensical thing.
To me what best explains the observations is that vaccines work. Disease are at an all time low and every time vaccines were introduced those diseases were heavily affected by them. It's not just hygiene, clearly not. I don't know what you think the cause is, you can look at statistics of any disease that was treated with vaccines.
Here’s PROOF that it’s actually vaccinated people who are spreading communicable disease – watch at Brighteon.com.
There are links in this article that back it up... PLUS a video that has a lot more info.
Quote from: https://www.naturalnews.com/2018-11-14-proof-vaccinated-people-are-spreading-communicable-disease.html
A 2016 report by Kaiser Health News revealed what many vaccine truth advocates have been saying for years: Vaccines and the people who get them are carriers and spreaders of the disease, putting the rest of the population at very high risk.
During a recent episode of The Alex Jones Show, available for viewing at Brighteon.com, Alex Jones and Rob Dew discuss how getting vaccinated not only increases the risk of diseases spreading, but also puts the person being vaccinated at high risk of suffering side effects and other complications.
“This is a CDC document, and it’s called ‘Possible Side-effects from Vaccines,’ and you can go look this up for yourself,” Dew explains during the opening segment, pointing to official government documents that reveal some very inconvenient truths.
“In the MMR section, under the ‘Severe problems (very rare)’ (section) it lists deafness, long-term seizures, coma, or lowered consciousness, or permanent brain damage. So even on the CDC website, it lists as a side effect of the MMR vaccine … permanent brain damage. So we’re not making this up.”
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The horrific vaccine side effects that the establishment denies are printed right in vaccine package inserts
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Major mumps outbreak occurred in child population that was 90 percent vaccinated
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During a recent episode of The Alex Jones Show, available for viewing at Brighteon.com, Alex Jones and Rob Dew discuss how getting vaccinated not only increases the risk of diseases spreading, but also puts the person being vaccinated at high risk of suffering side effects and other complications.
“This is a CDC document, and it’s called ‘Possible Side-effects from Vaccines,’ and you can go look this up for yourself,” Dew explains during the opening segment, pointing to official government documents that reveal some very inconvenient truths.
“In the MMR section, under the ‘Severe problems (very rare)’ (section) it lists deafness, long-term seizures, coma, or lowered consciousness, or permanent brain damage. So even on the CDC website, it lists as a side effect of the MMR vaccine … permanent brain damage. So we’re not making this up.”
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The horrific vaccine side effects that the establishment denies are printed right in vaccine package inserts
...
Major mumps outbreak occurred in child population that was 90 percent vaccinated
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There are links in this article that back it up... PLUS a video that has a lot more info.
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''Yes, vaccines are working very well to get the victim 'configured', but there is always room for fine-tuning. '' Prove it, you guys can't even agree with each other. Some of you say vaccines are there to kill us long term, some of you are saying they simply don't work, etc etc, just conspiracy theories, which one is it?
It's simply the hypothesis which best explains the breadth of the observations. Matches what 'they' said they were going to do with vaccines (use 'injections' at an early age to produce the kinds of people with the kinds of attitudes which are desirable to the leadership.) It matches the observations that the regulatory agencies are not doing shit and the revolving door between 'government' regulators and pharma corporation's executive staff. It matches how the 'science' about vaccine safety is non-existent and in it's place are bogus platitudes which don't stand to even the most modest of scrutiny. In short it matches exactly what we see all around us in society.
The counter argument from people like you is that vaccines are good because the government says they are good and they stop anyone who says otherwise so there is no 'credible' evidence to the contrary. And we all know how much Big Brother loves us so anything he says is the word of gospel with no further evidence required, right?
There is no reason for me to agree with 'the others' or them with me. I call it like I see it. I'm not the kind of person who needs to join a crowd, much less a majority, in order to feel secure. Somehow my conditioning and my 'configuration' didn't work quite right. Thank you God!
I agree with BadDecker on quite a lot on this thread. I especially got a kick out of his observation that our government is more than happy to kill Yemeni kids by the busload but somehow when a kid happens to be standing on American soil they lose all of their psychopathic tendencies and bend over backward to protect every hair on the kid's head. Why on earth would you believe that? You would have to be completely brainwashed to actually believe such a nonsensical thing.
Bullshit. Vaccines are not that great for profits. ''Sometimes this includes doing a good job of making sure people stay alive' Are you saying vaccines work?
An ideal citizen (or 'cattle' translated to the language of one's choice) to maximize profits would have the following characteristics:
- Alive and well enough to perform desirable tasks.
- Chronically ill and in need of pharmaceutical products on an ongoing basis.
- By virtue of being semi-functional, can trade labor efforts for pharma products through a traceable and taxable exchange currency system.
- Docile and unable (or unwilling) to understand the system dynamics impacting his/her life past a certain trivial level.
- End life with a critical and expensive medical event which consumes any savings of real property which the subject may have accumulated over their lifetime. Cancer is a great candidate for this purpose.
Yes, vaccines are working very well to get the victim 'configured', but there is always room for fine-tuning.
With socialized medicine it is not necessary to target specific individuals based on their net worth. Historically this is tricky but our modern tracking systems are making it more practical. It is still dangerous because such individuals tend to be less docile a lot of times. (One notes how it is the 'affluent' who are catching on to the vaccine program details.)
Anyway, with socialized medicine you can make the poor and ignorant sick and the affluent will pay the bills.
Medicines for patients with chronic diseases, which are taken every day, would be more profitable than a vaccine which provides a long-lasting impact and I do agree that pharmaceuticals are evil sometimes, it's true, they want to profit as much as possible however it's important to remember that ''the pharmaceutical sector in general is one of the most heavily-regulated industries in Europe. Production standards, safety monitoring and marketing activities are very tightly controlled by public authorities.''
The problem is that the 'regulators' are assigned by the governments and the governments are installed by the people who profit from the finally engineered system. It's their system and their bread-n-butter and the governments they own are not going to be allowed to fuck it up.
This is why it is no surprise that no 'science' is allowed which casts any questions on the 'safety and effectiveness' of vaccines. If the 'science' which produces the correct results is not practical then it is not done at all (or thrown away with no traces except that which a whistleblower tucked away into his safe in the bowels of the CDC.)
But do you think they are doing it? Do you think governments are poisoning or killing people on purpose through vaccines?
Of course, government people aren't killing people on purpose (except in Afghanistan or Yemen, etc.). They are simply being careful to make their $profits. Sometimes this includes doing a good job of making sure people stay alive... especially if is themselves.
Bullshit. Vaccines are not that great for profits. ''Sometimes this includes doing a good job of making sure people stay alive' Are you saying vaccines work?
Medicines for patients with chronic diseases, which are taken every day, would be more profitable than a vaccine which provides a long-lasting impact and I do agree that pharmaceuticals are evil sometimes, it's true, they want to profit as much as possible however it's important to remember that ''the pharmaceutical sector in general is one of the most heavily-regulated industries in Europe. Production standards, safety monitoring and marketing activities are very tightly controlled by public authorities.''
Researcher Jailed After Uncovering Deadly Virus Delivered Through Human Vaccines
This story is popping up more and more, even though I had heard about it years ago. The article, itself, has a lot of links to other reports that back it up... including a Vimeo video with Dr. Mikovits, herself, and comments on the video page.
To me, when you think about it, it makes sense.
If you have been following stories in recent years of scientists and researchers who make discoveries that are threatening to the Deep State and the bottom line of Big Pharma, you will have seen the pattern before. Those doctors are often ‘persuaded’ to recant their studies, offered bribes or other benefits to distance themselves from or even destroy their data, and even threatened with jail time or, if a legal case is too difficult to fabricate against them, they may simply be killed.
Such is the tale of molecular biologist Judy A. Mikovits, PhD, in the disturbing true story first detailed in this Natural News article that included the video below of how she was thrown in prison for research that led to the discovery that deadly retroviruses have been transmitted to twenty-five million Americans through human vaccines.
Isolating The Virus
With a well-established history of working for the National Cancer Institute as a cancer researcher, Dr. Mikovits worked with human retroviruses like HIV. Her work focused on immunotherapy research. In 2009, she was working on autism and related neurological diseases. She found that many of the study subjects had cancer, motor-neuron disorders and chronic fatigue Syndrome (CFS). She believed a virus may have been responsible for these symptoms, and through her research, she isolated the viruses that turned out to come from mice.
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It looked like a virus, it smelled like a virus, a retrovirus, because those are the types of viruses that disrupt the immune system. And several other investigators back in the 90s had actually isolated retroviruses from these people but the government called them ‘contaminants,’ that they weren’t real and that they didn’t have anything to do with the disease. Well, we isolated a new family of viruses that were called xenotropic murine leukemia virus-related virus. So these viruses were murine leukemia viruses, mouse viruses.
So spin forward two years, our paper published in one of the best scientific journals in the world in Science, October 8th, 2009. Usually that makes one’s career, in my case it ended my life as a scientist as I knew it.
Virus Delivered Through Vaccines
Dr. Mikovits’ paper, in and of itself, did not immediately bring the wrath of the powerful pharmaceutical industry. However, when a paper published 2 years later made the connection between this new virus and vaccines, then Mikovits’ research findings became too dangerous for the Deep State. Here is how Mikovits explains it in the video:
So in 2011, another AIDS researcher in a journal called Frontiers in Microbiology wrote a paper that really cost me a lot; I didn’t know that he was going to write this paper, but it basically said the most likely way that these murine leukemia virus-related viruses, these types of viruses, entered humans, was through vaccines.
So when did we start vaccines? 1953, 1934, right in the 30s with the polio, and what we were doing to attenuate, to make the virus less pathogenic, less toxic, is we were passing them through mouse brains, so we were passing them through the brains of mice, and every scientist who works with these viruses, and worked at the National Cancer Institute recognized the possibility that if you put human tissue and mouse tissue together the possibility is that you’re going to pick up a virus that is silent, in the mouse, that is it doesn’t hurt the mouse, but it kills the human, or causes serious disease in the human.
Deep State Comes Knocking
Jabbed: How the Vaccin... Brett Wilcox Check Amazon for Pricing. It was not long after the implications from the paper became clear and the Deep State saw the threat that was being posed to the vaccine industry that their powerful mechanisms of cover-up, obfuscation, and deception were activated:
I was fired, jailed, without cause, without hearing, without any civil rights at all, just drug out of my house in shackles one day, on November 18th, 2011, I refused to denounce the data, I refused to say it was a mistake, we have the data, I showed the data, I showed all of the data, and I just refused, they basically said tell everybody you made it all up, and you can go home. And if you don’t, we’ll destroy you. And they did.
She was arrested without a warrant and held in jail for 5 days without the opportunity for bail as a fugitive from justice, and was given a 4-year gag order. Her career was destroyed. Her story is documented in the book Plague: One Scientist’s intrepid Search For the Truth about Human Retroviruses and Chronic Fatigue Syndrome, Autism, and Other Diseases.
Ironically, the FDA has now approved a testing protocol to detect retroviruses in the U.S. blood supply which is worth millions of dollars, and based in large part on Dr. Mikovits’ research, but it is being managed by Big Pharma. So while this distinguished scientist is now bankrupt and without employment, others are allegedly capitalizing on her research to earn millions of dollars to clean up the U.S. blood supply.
Such is the tale of molecular biologist Judy A. Mikovits, PhD, in the disturbing true story first detailed in this Natural News article that included the video below of how she was thrown in prison for research that led to the discovery that deadly retroviruses have been transmitted to twenty-five million Americans through human vaccines.
Isolating The Virus
With a well-established history of working for the National Cancer Institute as a cancer researcher, Dr. Mikovits worked with human retroviruses like HIV. Her work focused on immunotherapy research. In 2009, she was working on autism and related neurological diseases. She found that many of the study subjects had cancer, motor-neuron disorders and chronic fatigue Syndrome (CFS). She believed a virus may have been responsible for these symptoms, and through her research, she isolated the viruses that turned out to come from mice.
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It looked like a virus, it smelled like a virus, a retrovirus, because those are the types of viruses that disrupt the immune system. And several other investigators back in the 90s had actually isolated retroviruses from these people but the government called them ‘contaminants,’ that they weren’t real and that they didn’t have anything to do with the disease. Well, we isolated a new family of viruses that were called xenotropic murine leukemia virus-related virus. So these viruses were murine leukemia viruses, mouse viruses.
So spin forward two years, our paper published in one of the best scientific journals in the world in Science, October 8th, 2009. Usually that makes one’s career, in my case it ended my life as a scientist as I knew it.
Virus Delivered Through Vaccines
Dr. Mikovits’ paper, in and of itself, did not immediately bring the wrath of the powerful pharmaceutical industry. However, when a paper published 2 years later made the connection between this new virus and vaccines, then Mikovits’ research findings became too dangerous for the Deep State. Here is how Mikovits explains it in the video:
So in 2011, another AIDS researcher in a journal called Frontiers in Microbiology wrote a paper that really cost me a lot; I didn’t know that he was going to write this paper, but it basically said the most likely way that these murine leukemia virus-related viruses, these types of viruses, entered humans, was through vaccines.
So when did we start vaccines? 1953, 1934, right in the 30s with the polio, and what we were doing to attenuate, to make the virus less pathogenic, less toxic, is we were passing them through mouse brains, so we were passing them through the brains of mice, and every scientist who works with these viruses, and worked at the National Cancer Institute recognized the possibility that if you put human tissue and mouse tissue together the possibility is that you’re going to pick up a virus that is silent, in the mouse, that is it doesn’t hurt the mouse, but it kills the human, or causes serious disease in the human.
Deep State Comes Knocking
Jabbed: How the Vaccin... Brett Wilcox Check Amazon for Pricing. It was not long after the implications from the paper became clear and the Deep State saw the threat that was being posed to the vaccine industry that their powerful mechanisms of cover-up, obfuscation, and deception were activated:
I was fired, jailed, without cause, without hearing, without any civil rights at all, just drug out of my house in shackles one day, on November 18th, 2011, I refused to denounce the data, I refused to say it was a mistake, we have the data, I showed the data, I showed all of the data, and I just refused, they basically said tell everybody you made it all up, and you can go home. And if you don’t, we’ll destroy you. And they did.
She was arrested without a warrant and held in jail for 5 days without the opportunity for bail as a fugitive from justice, and was given a 4-year gag order. Her career was destroyed. Her story is documented in the book Plague: One Scientist’s intrepid Search For the Truth about Human Retroviruses and Chronic Fatigue Syndrome, Autism, and Other Diseases.
Ironically, the FDA has now approved a testing protocol to detect retroviruses in the U.S. blood supply which is worth millions of dollars, and based in large part on Dr. Mikovits’ research, but it is being managed by Big Pharma. So while this distinguished scientist is now bankrupt and without employment, others are allegedly capitalizing on her research to earn millions of dollars to clean up the U.S. blood supply.
This story is popping up more and more, even though I had heard about it years ago. The article, itself, has a lot of links to other reports that back it up... including a Vimeo video with Dr. Mikovits, herself, and comments on the video page.
To me, when you think about it, it makes sense.
But do you think they are doing it? Do you think governments are poisoning or killing people on purpose through vaccines?
Of course, government people aren't killing people on purpose (except in Afghanistan or Yemen, etc.). They are simply being careful to make their $profits. Sometimes this includes doing a good job of making sure people stay alive... especially if is themselves.
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I see lots of information you likely didn't even read, copy and pasted (that is against forum rules to plagiarize BTW), but I don't see your premise, retort, or argument...
What do you want me to say exactly about well known documented data? Should I do a brief comment after each report? The argument that vaccines aren't safe or that the government doesn't care is simply false as shown above. Simple because they lost some reports somewhere it doesn't mean the whole thing is a hoax and they are trying to kill people. Vaccines are proven to work, it's a fact, we have stopped plenty of diseases thanks to them. No one is arguing that vaccines are 100% safe because nothing is, any drug has side effects, you can die from eating too many paracetamol pills, it doesn't even take that many.
Science will prevail. Nutjobs wont.
I shouldn't have to tell you what to say. In fact if you were giving this information a fair examination you wouldn't be saying anything, and be reading about it instead of simply denying its relevance over and over again (and don't lie to me I know damned well you didn't do anything more than skim at the most). I never made any of those arguments so I am not going to bother defending those premises. Also there is an important difference... no one is trying to force people to take paracetamol pills by law. This entire issue would largely be a non-issue for people if there wasn't creeping legislation mandating vaccinations in many states against any standards of implied consent.
http://icandecide.org/government/ICAN-HHS-Stipulated-Order-July-2018.pdf
The Corruption of Science: What They Won't Tell You! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XrGRP2mu0GA
The Death of Science | Scientific Corruption and You https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PmvLdOkpg2M
Ok genius. What would happen if something like Ebola appeared in the US or wherever the fuck you live. Let's call it, the badecker's disease. It kills people in a few days. They make a vaccine that works and stops it, would you think it's a good idea to force people to take the vaccines? Yeah, think about it for a few seconds genius.
There are already laws on the books for pandemics and emergencies. This has nothing to do with mandating people get common vaccinations by force of law.
Every year a lot of kids die of vaccine preventable diseases. By your logic, it should also be legal to give kids alcohol, might as well right? Why make it illegal, fucking government, why would they want to help kids, right? They are evil. Not vaccinating your kid is the same as giving him alcohol, or tobacco or drugs sometimes. You could be killing your kid because of it.
PD: however I do think that making vaccines mandatory could be sending the wrong message to all the nutjobs, thinking that they make it mandatory because they want to poison us and not because they want to help.
A lot of things are mandatory, like wearing helmets or seat belts, etc etc, they don't do it because they hate people...
I didn't claim they do it because they hate people. Also wearing a seat belt is not equivalent to getting known toxic substances substances injected into your bloodstream. You can have freedom or security. If you try to have both you will have neither.
But do you think they are doing it? Do you think governments are poisoning or killing people on purpose through vaccines?
This is irrelevant to the discussion about this suit, and nothing but a red herring to draw focus away from the facts.
copy of wikipedia
I see lots of information you likely didn't even read, copy and pasted (that is against forum rules to plagiarize BTW), but I don't see your premise, retort, or argument...
What do you want me to say exactly about well known documented data? Should I do a brief comment after each report? The argument that vaccines aren't safe or that the government doesn't care is simply false as shown above. Simple because they lost some reports somewhere it doesn't mean the whole thing is a hoax and they are trying to kill people. Vaccines are proven to work, it's a fact, we have stopped plenty of diseases thanks to them. No one is arguing that vaccines are 100% safe because nothing is, any drug has side effects, you can die from eating too many paracetamol pills, it doesn't even take that many.
Science will prevail. Nutjobs wont.
I shouldn't have to tell you what to say. In fact if you were giving this information a fair examination you wouldn't be saying anything, and be reading about it instead of simply denying its relevance over and over again (and don't lie to me I know damned well you didn't do anything more than skim at the most). I never made any of those arguments so I am not going to bother defending those premises. Also there is an important difference... no one is trying to force people to take paracetamol pills by law. This entire issue would largely be a non-issue for people if there wasn't creeping legislation mandating vaccinations in many states against any standards of implied consent.
http://icandecide.org/government/ICAN-HHS-Stipulated-Order-July-2018.pdf
The Corruption of Science: What They Won't Tell You! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XrGRP2mu0GA
The Death of Science | Scientific Corruption and You https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PmvLdOkpg2M
Ok genius. What would happen if something like Ebola appeared in the US or wherever the fuck you live. Let's call it, the badecker's disease. It kills people in a few days. They make a vaccine that works and stops it, would you think it's a good idea to force people to take the vaccines? Yeah, think about it for a few seconds genius.
There are already laws on the books for pandemics and emergencies. This has nothing to do with mandating people get common vaccinations by force of law.
Every year a lot of kids die of vaccine preventable diseases. By your logic, it should also be legal to give kids alcohol, might as well right? Why make it illegal, fucking government, why would they want to help kids, right? They are evil. Not vaccinating your kid is the same as giving him alcohol, or tobacco or drugs sometimes. You could be killing your kid because of it.
PD: however I do think that making vaccines mandatory could be sending the wrong message to all the nutjobs, thinking that they make it mandatory because they want to poison us and not because they want to help.
A lot of things are mandatory, like wearing helmets or seat belts, etc etc, they don't do it because they hate people...
I didn't claim they do it because they hate people. Also wearing a seat belt is not equivalent to getting known toxic substances substances injected into your bloodstream. You can have freedom or security. If you try to have both you will have neither.
But do you think they are doing it? Do you think governments are poisoning or killing people on purpose through vaccines?
copy of wikipedia
I see lots of information you likely didn't even read, copy and pasted (that is against forum rules to plagiarize BTW), but I don't see your premise, retort, or argument...
What do you want me to say exactly about well known documented data? Should I do a brief comment after each report? The argument that vaccines aren't safe or that the government doesn't care is simply false as shown above. Simple because they lost some reports somewhere it doesn't mean the whole thing is a hoax and they are trying to kill people. Vaccines are proven to work, it's a fact, we have stopped plenty of diseases thanks to them. No one is arguing that vaccines are 100% safe because nothing is, any drug has side effects, you can die from eating too many paracetamol pills, it doesn't even take that many.
Science will prevail. Nutjobs wont.
I shouldn't have to tell you what to say. In fact if you were giving this information a fair examination you wouldn't be saying anything, and be reading about it instead of simply denying its relevance over and over again (and don't lie to me I know damned well you didn't do anything more than skim at the most). I never made any of those arguments so I am not going to bother defending those premises. Also there is an important difference... no one is trying to force people to take paracetamol pills by law. This entire issue would largely be a non-issue for people if there wasn't creeping legislation mandating vaccinations in many states against any standards of implied consent.
http://icandecide.org/government/ICAN-HHS-Stipulated-Order-July-2018.pdf
The Corruption of Science: What They Won't Tell You! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XrGRP2mu0GA
The Death of Science | Scientific Corruption and You https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PmvLdOkpg2M
Ok genius. What would happen if something like Ebola appeared in the US or wherever the fuck you live. Let's call it, the badecker's disease. It kills people in a few days. They make a vaccine that works and stops it, would you think it's a good idea to force people to take the vaccines? Yeah, think about it for a few seconds genius.
There are already laws on the books for pandemics and emergencies. This has nothing to do with mandating people get common vaccinations by force of law.
Every year a lot of kids die of vaccine preventable diseases. By your logic, it should also be legal to give kids alcohol, might as well right? Why make it illegal, fucking government, why would they want to help kids, right? They are evil. Not vaccinating your kid is the same as giving him alcohol, or tobacco or drugs sometimes. You could be killing your kid because of it.
PD: however I do think that making vaccines mandatory could be sending the wrong message to all the nutjobs, thinking that they make it mandatory because they want to poison us and not because they want to help.
A lot of things are mandatory, like wearing helmets or seat belts, etc etc, they don't do it because they hate people...
I didn't claim they do it because they hate people. Also wearing a seat belt is not equivalent to getting known toxic substances substances injected into your bloodstream. You can have freedom or security. If you try to have both you will have neither.
Ok genius. What would happen if something like Ebola appeared in the US or wherever the fuck you live. Let's call it, the badecker's disease. It kills people in a few days. They make a vaccine that works and stops it, would you think it's a good idea to force people to take the vaccines? Yeah, think about it for a few seconds genius.
If the 'like Ebola' was constructed from the genetic material of organisms patented by the Rockefeller institute and the 'pandemic' was pumped up in the mainstream media to a fever pitch, it is almost certain that the 'problem' (the looming pandemic) is a result of certain people desiring a particular 'solution' (e.g., mass injection with no time for analysis.)
I'll absolutely head for the hills and take my chances with 'the pandemic', and I'd absolutely do the same with any minors under my supervision. I'm sorry, but the methods and plans that these 'leaders of society' have for the bulk of the population is clear enough in their writings and actions that any other action than running fast the other way would be shear negligence.
I would not say that the sheeple 'deserve what they get' if they allow themselves to be herded into the slaughterhouse, but I would say that it is a good example of Darwinian principles at work. And our technocratic leadership loves them some Darwin. His theories are how they justify their station in life a lot of times.
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