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Topic: Vaccinated vs. Unvaccinated: Guess who is Sicker? - page 2. (Read 45532 times)

legendary
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I thought that the only merits were for the Pharma companies and those promoting global eugenics. They probably don't want to publicise those.
legendary
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This is quite an interesting topic and I'm thrilled at the number of replies on the subject. Well, my fault is with the research methodology. Firstly,
1. The variance between group in the sample size
2. The research pointed out just the demerits of vaccination without pointing out the merits to balance the scale.
legendary
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He'd probably lie if he was asked anyway. Smiley

So here is a question for all you vaxers.

A friends daughter is 22, and she hasn't been vaxed. She works in a busy Asda ( Walmart ) supermarket, and she must have interacted with thousands of customers over the last year. She doesn't remember having had any covid symptoms, and she has just been tested as negative for covid. I think it is inconceivable that she hasn't been exposed to the virus. Now should she be vaccinated when she has obviously developed a natural immunity. Vaccination will serve no useful purpose, and will compromise her immunity. Now if the answer is no, then how are they going to select the vaccination victims? Checking for memory T cells is slow and expensive, so they won't want to do that. If she is representative of the bulk of the population, then what will they do with all the unused useless vaccines that they have wasted our money developing and manufacturing?

There is a possibility that viruses don't exist. If they do exist, they are something that is way different than the medical says they are. Consider exosomes, which look exactly like viruses, but are produced by our cells. https://healthgains.com/exosomes/

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legendary
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He'd probably lie if he was asked anyway. Smiley

So here is a question for all you vaxers.

A friends daughter is 22, and she hasn't been vaxed. She works in a busy Asda ( Walmart ) supermarket, and she must have interacted with thousands of customers over the last year. She doesn't remember having had any covid symptoms, and she has just been tested as negative for covid. I think it is inconceivable that she hasn't been exposed to the virus. Now should she be vaccinated when she has obviously developed a natural immunity. Vaccination will serve no useful purpose, and will compromise her immunity. Now if the answer is no, then how are they going to select the vaccination victims? Checking for memory T cells is slow and expensive, so they won't want to do that. If she is representative of the bulk of the population, then what will they do with all the unused useless vaccines that they have wasted our money developing and manufacturing?
legendary
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Vampires such blood for their own benefit, they don't give it to other animals to mess up the health.

Kids don't have a developed immune system until they are about 2, so any vaccination is going to mess up it's early development. Exposure to multiple viruses during the first year of life, gives them cross-viral immunity. This process has been going on for thousands of years, and it obviously works well.

It would be interesting to know if Bill Gates etc. allow themselves to be vaccinated with the mass produced stuff that is pushed onto the gullible public.

Gate's supposed personal doctor supposedly told a group of people that no, Bill Gate's kids didn't get vaccinated and that they were healthy and smart children.

Way way way back when 'Snopes' was pretty new (circa 2004 which I remember because of where I was living/working) I saw that Snopes was a joke, and also that Wikipedia is highly compromised on certain topics (naked short selling, vaccines, etc.)  I still use these resources for certain things, but with a massive handful of salt.

Anyway, as expected, Snopes 'debunked' this story.  They actually never bothered to do the simple thing which would be to just ask Bill Gates.  Their primarly, and at the time seemingly their only rationale for labeling the story of Gate's non-vaccinated kids story 'false' was that the doctor should not have divulged medical information on his patient.

So-called 'fact checkers':  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rtirKL_XmGg

...and an even more interesting and critical direct follow-up:  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HaHuTNh8fAo

legendary
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Vampires such blood for their own benefit, they don't give it to other animals to mess up the health.

Kids don't have a developed immune system until they are about 2, so any vaccination is going to mess up it's early development. Exposure to multiple viruses during the first year of life, gives them cross-viral immunity. This process has been going on for thousands of years, and it obviously works well.

It would be interesting to know if Bill Gates etc. allow themselves to be vaccinated with the mass produced stuff that is pushed onto the gullible public.
legendary
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That's vaccines, not vampires. Lol.


Actually, this aspect of things really is worth considering:

 - It is a known fact that people like Trump buddy Peter Theil are really into the health effects of 'young blood'.

 - It is a known fact that there is a great deal of interest at this moment in harvesting the blood of people who are supposed to have had 'covid-19' and injecting it into other people for the supposed beneficial effect of 'antibodies'.

 - It is a know fact that the end result of the designer DNA/RNA which the new 'vaccines' contain is to re-program the victim's cells to produce selected antigens, then have the victim's immune system produce antibodies for these antigens.

 - It seems like the framework is being set up to individualize the 'vaccine' which people get and track things in a fine grained manner.  This would allow identification of individuals who are producing a particular set of antibodies.

 - It is know that slimeball like the #2 guy at WHO, who used to work for Bill and Malinda Gates prior to his current role and looks/acts like a classic pedo-creeper, as well as the guy in Ventura, and talking more and more about removing individuals from their homes if it is said that a family member might be a carrier of the dreaded kobe wirus.

A hypothesis which really should be entertained is whether the peeps are being set up to be the cattle in what is very very close to a herd milking operation where the 'milk' is something that the elite want for whatever purposes they might have.  The chances of us plebs knowing what the designer DNA/RNA which we are supposed to be injected with actually does are zero even if the thing was not being rolled out a 'warp speed' by psychos.


That's interesting, and all. But what does it have to do with a downward spike in deaths of kids who stayed at home in the lockdowns? Or were you just bringing up some unrelated points?
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Injecting custom DNA/RNA into people as a so-called 'vaccine' to modify the nature of their blood is a very close tie between 'vaccines' and 'vampires'.  Especially, as I say, there is a strong and known interest in blood products within elite circles.

I have kind of wondered how Peter Thiel feels about getting so much Merck vaccine garbage in his young-blood meals and if he and his type would be influencing a clean-up of his supply.  Relevant to your focus on decreased childhood vaccinations (and decreased childhood death), maybe he has?

legendary
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Back in April, when the Covid death spike was the highest among the elderly, there was an age group that was actually going down in deaths. This age group was the infants under 1-y-o.

The area where their deaths was reducing was Sudden Infant Death Syndrome (SIDS). It seems that there are a certain number of babies who simply die for no determinable reason at all - SIDS. But the death rate went down during the spike in Covid deaths among the elderly. Why?

This was during some of the first major lockdowns, when nobody was going to the clinics and hospitals for any reason. These babies were missing out on many of their normally scheduled vaccination shots. And they lived because of it.

What does that tell you about vaccines.

Cool

Kids not dying of SIDS while elderly are dying.

The only logical conclusion...elderly are sucking the life out of babies to live.

That's vaccines, not vampires. Lol.


Actually, this aspect of things really is worth considering:

 - It is a known fact that people like Trump buddy Peter Theil are really into the health effects of 'young blood'.

 - It is a known fact that there is a great deal of interest at this moment in harvesting the blood of people who are supposed to have had 'covid-19' and injecting it into other people for the supposed beneficial effect of 'antibodies'.

 - It is a know fact that the end result of the designer DNA/RNA which the new 'vaccines' contain is to re-program the victim's cells to produce selected antigens, then have the victim's immune system produce antibodies for these antigens.

 - It seems like the framework is being set up to individualize the 'vaccine' which people get and track things in a fine grained manner.  This would allow identification of individuals who are producing a particular set of antibodies.

 - It is know that slimeball like the #2 guy at WHO, who used to work for Bill and Malinda Gates prior to his current role and looks/acts like a classic pedo-creeper, as well as the guy in Ventura, and talking more and more about removing individuals from their homes if it is said that a family member might be a carrier of the dreaded kobe wirus.

A hypothesis which really should be entertained is whether the peeps are being set up to be the cattle in what is very very close to a herd milking operation where the 'milk' is something that the elite want for whatever purposes they might have.  The chances of us plebs knowing what the designer DNA/RNA which we are supposed to be injected with actually does are zero even if the thing was not being rolled out a 'warp speed' by psychos.



That's interesting, and all. But what does it have to do with a downward spike in deaths of kids who stayed at home in the lockdowns? Or were you just bringing up some unrelated points?

Are you suggesting that the whole pandemic has been caused by the powers that be, so that there are more kids that stay alive ('cause they don't get vampire vaccinated) so that in the future the vampires can suck their blood?

Or do you think that there is a way that vampires teleport the blood out of the young from far-away distances without anybody knowing it?

During the greatest Covid deaths of elderly back in April, fewer infants were dying from SIDS. The reduction in child deaths was way smaller than the spike in deaths of the elderly, however. The reason was that the infants were locked down from getting their shots. Of course, how does anyone prove this? But, what else is there?

Cool
legendary
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>..<

That isn't a new concept. I've tracked it back to the Knights Templar, but not with vaccines of course, as they weren't around in those days. They use the tools of the time. I get rubbished when I suggest that the dynasties are still around, and they control a morphed British Empire to promote their anglophile superiority. Right now it is obvious that they are well into their eugenics plan, and they continue their wealth transfer away from the people. One way to fight back is to take control of your health, and work with mother nature - she loves you, and wants you to survive.
legendary
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Back in April, when the Covid death spike was the highest among the elderly, there was an age group that was actually going down in deaths. This age group was the infants under 1-y-o.

The area where their deaths was reducing was Sudden Infant Death Syndrome (SIDS). It seems that there are a certain number of babies who simply die for no determinable reason at all - SIDS. But the death rate went down during the spike in Covid deaths among the elderly. Why?

This was during some of the first major lockdowns, when nobody was going to the clinics and hospitals for any reason. These babies were missing out on many of their normally scheduled vaccination shots. And they lived because of it.

What does that tell you about vaccines.

Cool

Kids not dying of SIDS while elderly are dying.

The only logical conclusion...elderly are sucking the life out of babies to live.

That's vaccines, not vampires. Lol.


Actually, this aspect of things really is worth considering:

 - It is a known fact that people like Trump buddy Peter Theil are really into the health effects of 'young blood'.

 - It is a known fact that there is a great deal of interest at this moment in harvesting the blood of people who are supposed to have had 'covid-19' and injecting it into other people for the supposed beneficial effect of 'antibodies'.

 - It is a know fact that the end result of the designer DNA/RNA which the new 'vaccines' contain is to re-program the victim's cells to produce selected antigens, then have the victim's immune system produce antibodies for these antigens.

 - It seems like the framework is being set up to individualize the 'vaccine' which people get and track things in a fine grained manner.  This would allow identification of individuals who are producing a particular set of antibodies.

 - It is know that slimeball like the #2 guy at WHO, who used to work for Bill and Malinda Gates prior to his current role and looks/acts like a classic pedo-creeper, as well as the guy in Ventura, and talking more and more about removing individuals from their homes if it is said that a family member might be a carrier of the dreaded kobe wirus.

A hypothesis which really should be entertained is whether the peeps are being set up to be the cattle in what is very very close to a herd milking operation where the 'milk' is something that the elite want for whatever purposes they might have.  The chances of us plebs knowing what the designer DNA/RNA which we are supposed to be injected with actually does are zero even if the thing was not being rolled out a 'warp speed' by psychos.

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If we are talking about the usual routine vaccination of children, then this cannot be done. Because vaccinations kill a child's immunity. Hasn't nature provided for this only for man? Animals in the forest do not need vaccinations, they do not get sick at all (including cancer, obesity, cardiovascular diseases, etc.). Although the pets that we feed with unnatural boiled food also get sick just like people. This I mean that you do not have to invent anything, you need to observe nature and everything will be fine.  Vaccinations contain mercury, aluminum, and more. These are the strongest human carcinogens. There is no real research to prove that vaccines are safe, they just haven't been done.
legendary
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Back in April, when the Covid death spike was the highest among the elderly, there was an age group that was actually going down in deaths. This age group was the infants under 1-y-o.

The area where their deaths was reducing was Sudden Infant Death Syndrome (SIDS). It seems that there are a certain number of babies who simply die for no determinable reason at all - SIDS. But the death rate went down during the spike in Covid deaths among the elderly. Why?

This was during some of the first major lockdowns, when nobody was going to the clinics and hospitals for any reason. These babies were missing out on many of their normally scheduled vaccination shots. And they lived because of it.

What does that tell you about vaccines.

Cool

Kids not dying of SIDS while elderly are dying.

The only logical conclusion...elderly are sucking the life out of babies to live.

That's vaccines, not vampires. Lol.

Cool
legendary
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Back in April, when the Covid death spike was the highest among the elderly, there was an age group that was actually going down in deaths. This age group was the infants under 1-y-o.

The area where their deaths was reducing was Sudden Infant Death Syndrome (SIDS). It seems that there are a certain number of babies who simply die for no determinable reason at all - SIDS. But the death rate went down during the spike in Covid deaths among the elderly. Why?

This was during some of the first major lockdowns, when nobody was going to the clinics and hospitals for any reason. These babies were missing out on many of their normally scheduled vaccination shots. And they lived because of it.

What does that tell you about vaccines.

Cool

Kids not dying of SIDS while elderly are dying.

The only logical conclusion...elderly are sucking the life out of babies to live.
legendary
Activity: 3906
Merit: 1373
Back in April, when the Covid death spike was the highest among the elderly, there was an age group that was actually going down in deaths. This age group was the infants under 1-y-o.

The area where their deaths was reducing was Sudden Infant Death Syndrome (SIDS). It seems that there are a certain number of babies who simply die for no determinable reason at all - SIDS. But the death rate went down during the spike in Covid deaths among the elderly. Why?

This was during some of the first major lockdowns, when nobody was going to the clinics and hospitals for any reason. These babies were missing out on many of their normally scheduled vaccination shots. And they lived because of it.

What does that tell you about vaccines.

Cool
legendary
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Mandatory vaccination is an admission that they don't work
legendary
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I think that vaccination is very important. I don't get people who say it is bad, it does not make any sense...

If _you_ don't see any problems with vaccines and how they are used currently, then by all means roll up your sleeve.

Very few of us on the 'anti-vax' side are going to do anything more than to bring up information for people to use to make their own choices even if your choice to damage yourself and your family will cost me money and very likely will topple our country eventually when 1/2 of the peeps are turned into drooling head-banging diaper-wearing idiots.

Certainly we so-called 'anti-vaxxers' are not advocating for forced mandatory non-vaccination.  That's the main differentiating feature between the two sides.

legendary
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Badecker posted something about the WHO meeting a while ago.  I just noticed that Del Bigtree did a whole show on it that I somehow missed.

  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_1xey8zlyQo

WHO admits all kinds of stuff such as:

 - _already_ engineered a world where natural immunity is replace by artificial immunity run by technocrats.  And it isn't working for shit and probably will only get worse in the future as 200 more vaccines are rolled out.

 - individual doctors are starting to lose confidence in a big way.

 - individual doctors have 1/2 a DAY of study on vaccine science in 8 years of med school and don't know shit about it.

 - individual doctors are being 'flipped' by their patients who often know a lot more than they do and ask questions for which there are no answers.

 - safety studies are woefully lacking (and all the mainstream media assurtions to the contrary are bullshit propaganda.)

 - new vaccines, if they have to use adjuvants at all, should use ancient ones because they at least have the lame excuse that the adjuvants have a history (even if it is a crappy one.)

 - and on and on and on.

newbie
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Well, even though it is the norm to vaccinate every born child in the modern world, we all know that it is against the rules of mother nature and we shouldn't be surprised with this result.
legendary
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I've found a very good and quite watchable run-down of immunology in this play-list:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LArxUakFsFs&list=PLTF9h-T1TcJj4AOPCxGxOUTH0IVmaH7_8

Anyone who has the basic background and interest in science should watch it.

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After watching the above, consider this with respect to vaccines:  A 'successful' product is one which can be put on the market.  That means one which make the blood contain particular antibodies.  Not much else is very important, and most other things (like long-term immune system performance problems and autoimmunity) can be fairly easily swept under the carpet.  I strongly feel that they are.

It is 'unethical' to test a vaccine to see if it keeps people from getting sick from a specific cause (though it probably happens fairly often in third-world countries or other environments which are for, various reasons, effectively out of certain jurisdictions.)  The 'titer test' is considered a valid proxy.

With the above linked understanding of the various aspects of immunity one can imagine that there are various tricks and gimicks that can be done to achieve a higher antibody count.  One can also readily see that pulling these stunts can have a terrible effect on the immune system as a whole and cause it to get totally wigged out and perform quite poorly.

The very last video about the genesis of T-cells, the thalamus, childhood, and self-recognition should be anyone pause about hitting people so hard with vaccines in their formative years.  It easily could explain the explosion of autoimmune issues and generally poor immune system performance in the vaxxed vs. unvaxxed study.

legendary
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On the same track as ^^^

Coming soon to a mainstream media theater near you:

"Dangerous Anti-vaxxers Sabotage China's Benevolent Govt Mandated Vaccination Campaign.  Thousands Die!"

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Disgraced former doctor Andrew Wakefield is though to be the mastermind behind a fiendish plot which contaminated China's vaccine stockpiles. ...
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