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The unvaccinated of course.  Vaccines were given to children so that their bodies can fight against microbes that destroys someone else's body or immune system.  To avoid sickness and for our own body to fight against harmful viruses.

A normal healthy body can 'fight against microbes' just fine without vaccines in most cases.  Now if 'science' starts 'turbo-charging' and 'jacking with' certain elements of an immune system, which is what current adjuvated vaccines do, it is fairly obvious that it can fuck up the immune system as a whole.  Lots of times it gets totally confused and starts eating up the body itself.  The we see an epidemic of auto-immune related ailments.  Diabetes, MS, lupus, artheritis, etc, etc.  Also a lot of times when the immune system just does not work right and fall-out like 'hay fever.'

The 'good news' is that the vaccinated people are highly profitable throughout the rest of their lives to the pharma industry as they struggle with their various conditions.  Better yet, their lives are shortened so 'we' don't have to expend as much to support these 'useless eaters' and 'cannon fodder' as they age beyond their productive years.  In the U.S., this will extend the life-span of the social security ponzi scheme.  Other socialist countries gain a similar benefit for their brand of ponzi scheme.


In fact, the problem is getting to be just the opposite. People getting sick from flu vaccines are starting to cause the unvaccinated to get sick.

If unvaccinated people were simply living in a rather neutral environment, they would be just fine. But there are so many vaccinated sick people around them (sick because of the vaccination), that the systems of the unvaccintated are having trouble fighting off disease.

It's like the doctors and modern medicine are causing a plague of flu, kinda like the Black Plague that is happening in Madagascar (which was probably caused by the medical in some way, as well).

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Pertussis (aka, whooping cough) is a poster-child for this.  The wild strain can reside asymptomatically in vaccinated people which makes them carriers.

Now a pro-vaxxer could say "well, everyone should get vaccinated so they don't get sick from the vaccinated carriers."  The problem here is that the vaccine itself is increasingly failing (meaning they don't work for shit in more and more people) so even vaccinated are at risk.

The 'best solution' will, as always, be that everyone should go in for boosters regularly.  Other vaccinations (e.g., mumps) are also failing and you can see the more recent outbreaks happening in highly vaccinated populations.  Thus everyone should go in to the doctor multiple times per year to get their 'boosters'.

To make matters worse, the production of mutant strains of some kinds of organisms are enhanced by keeping highly vaccinated populations:
 
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-gS8BSBYYMk

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A shrewd investor would do well to invest in corporations who make vaccines for U.S. 'markets' (so called).  These corporate entities have legal immunity specifically for whatever harm their vaccine products might cause, and it the trend with 'Obamacare' and it's 'single-payer' replacement is to force-march people into the clinics to get injected with whatever vaccinations the pharma lobbyists wish.

Oh ya...another great thing is that the safety studies that the regulatory bodies such as the CDC rely on are typically performed by the corporations who manufacture vaccines.  Better yet, the boards who make vaccine schedule recommendations are populated by people like Dr. Paul Offit who hold intelectual property rights and get royalties from the vaccines they recommend be added to the vaccine schedule!



The pharmaceutical companies of America and the world are offshoots of I.G. Farben, a "giant" chemical company in Frankfurt, Germany, in WW2. Part of their goal was biological warfare to fight Britain and America and the allies. They didn't have time to develop their "stuff" properly in WW2.

But, to show you how powerful they were, when the Allies bombed Germany at the end of WW2, guess what city and what buildings were spared from the bombing devastation of the rest of Germany. The city of Frankfurt, and in particular, the buildings of I.G. Farben... the excuse being that the allies needed a headquarters to administer the conquering of Germany.

So, all the research that they had been doing at I.G. Farben was transferred intact to America, where it became the basis for modern medicine in America. Now the fully developed biological warfare is being legally used against Americans, and most Americans don't even realize that Big Pharma and Big Medicine is really trying to do 4 things:
1. Make money by keeping the people sick;
2. Keep the population of the world down;
3. Ultimately destroy people whenever necessary;
4. Control the world.

We destroyed the evil of Germany in WW2. But here it is rearing its ugly head, again, right in our own society.

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The unvaccinated of course.  Vaccines were given to children so that their bodies can fight against microbes that destroys someone else's body or immune system.  To avoid sickness and for our own body to fight against harmful viruses.

A normal healthy body can 'fight against microbes' just fine without vaccines in most cases.  Now if 'science' starts 'turbo-charging' and 'jacking with' certain elements of an immune system, which is what current adjuvated vaccines do, it is fairly obvious that it can fuck up the immune system as a whole.  Lots of times it gets totally confused and starts eating up the body itself.  The we see an epidemic of auto-immune related ailments.  Diabetes, MS, lupus, artheritis, etc, etc.  Also a lot of times when the immune system just does not work right and fall-out like 'hay fever.'

The 'good news' is that the vaccinated people are highly profitable throughout the rest of their lives to the pharma industry as they struggle with their various conditions.  Better yet, their lives are shortened so 'we' don't have to expend as much to support these 'useless eaters' and 'cannon fodder' as they age beyond their productive years.  In the U.S., this will extend the life-span of the social security ponzi scheme.  Other socialist countries gain a similar benefit for their brand of ponzi scheme.


In fact, the problem is getting to be just the opposite. People getting sick from flu vaccines are starting to cause the unvaccinated to get sick.

If unvaccinated people were simply living in a rather neutral environment, they would be just fine. But there are so many vaccinated sick people around them (sick because of the vaccination), that the systems of the unvaccintated are having trouble fighting off disease.

It's like the doctors and modern medicine are causing a plague of flu, kinda like the Black Plague that is happening in Madagascar (which was probably caused by the medical in some way, as well).

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Pertussis (aka, whooping cough) is a poster-child for this.  The wild strain can reside asymptomatically in vaccinated people which makes them carriers.

Now a pro-vaxxer could say "well, everyone should get vaccinated so they don't get sick from the vaccinated carriers."  The problem here is that the vaccine itself is increasingly failing (meaning they don't work for shit in more and more people) so even vaccinated are at risk.

The 'best solution' will, as always, be that everyone should go in for boosters regularly.  Other vaccinations (e.g., mumps) are also failing and you can see the more recent outbreaks happening in highly vaccinated populations.  Thus everyone should go in to the doctor multiple times per year to get their 'boosters'.

To make matters worse, the production of mutant strains of some kinds of organisms are enhanced by keeping highly vaccinated populations:
 
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-gS8BSBYYMk

---

A shrewd investor would do well to invest in corporations who make vaccines for U.S. 'markets' (so called).  These corporate entities have legal immunity specifically for whatever harm their vaccine products might cause, and it the trend with 'Obamacare' and it's 'single-payer' replacement is to force-march people into the clinics to get injected with whatever vaccinations the pharma lobbyists wish.

Oh ya...another great thing is that the safety studies that the regulatory bodies such as the CDC rely on are typically performed by the corporations who manufacture vaccines.  Better yet, the boards who make vaccine schedule recommendations are populated by people like Dr. Paul Offit who hold intelectual property rights and get royalties from the vaccines they recommend be added to the vaccine schedule!

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With regard to the above ^^^ ...

How Natural Aids Can Lessen Your Chance of Contracting the Pneumonic Plague






The plague turns into pneumonic plague as it migrates into the lungs and causes pneumonia and a host of other respiratory problems.  The causative organism of plague is the bacteria Yersinia pestis, and it is transmitted primarily by vectors (in this case fleas) from infected rodents to human beings.  That is the normal route of transmission for the bubonic plague, also known as the Black Death during the Middle Ages, where 1/3 of the population of Europe died.

The thing with this "offshoot" of the plague is that it can be transmitted just by sneezing on someone.  Airborne transmission is occurring, where droplets from the infected individual's coughs, sneezes, and mucous fluids carry the bacteria and spread it.  If a person sneezes on the wall, and later another person touches that wall with their hand?  Such contact can transmit this pneumonic plague.


Read more at https://www.lewrockwell.com/2017/11/no_author/659680-2/.


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legendary
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The unvaccinated of course.  Vaccines were given to children so that their bodies can fight against microbes that destroys someone else's body or immune system.  To avoid sickness and for our own body to fight against harmful viruses.

A normal healthy body can 'fight against microbes' just fine without vaccines in most cases.  Now if 'science' starts 'turbo-charging' and 'jacking with' certain elements of an immune system, which is what current adjuvated vaccines do, it is fairly obvious that it can fuck up the immune system as a whole.  Lots of times it gets totally confused and starts eating up the body itself.  The we see an epidemic of auto-immune related ailments.  Diabetes, MS, lupus, artheritis, etc, etc.  Also a lot of times when the immune system just does not work right and fall-out like 'hay fever.'

The 'good news' is that the vaccinated people are highly profitable throughout the rest of their lives to the pharma industry as they struggle with their various conditions.  Better yet, their lives are shortened so 'we' don't have to expend as much to support these 'useless eaters' and 'cannon fodder' as they age beyond their productive years.  In the U.S., this will extend the life-span of the social security ponzi scheme.  Other socialist countries gain a similar benefit for their brand of ponzi scheme.


In fact, the problem is getting to be just the opposite. People getting sick from flu vaccines are starting to cause the unvaccinated to get sick.

If unvaccinated people were simply living in a rather neutral environment, they would be just fine. But there are so many vaccinated sick people around them (sick because of the vaccination), that the systems of the unvaccintated are having trouble fighting off disease.

It's like the doctors and modern medicine are causing a plague of flu, kinda like the Black Plague that is happening in Madagascar (which was probably caused by the medical in some way, as well).

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legendary
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The unvaccinated of course.  Vaccines were given to children so that their bodies can fight against microbes that destroys someone else's body or immune system.  To avoid sickness and for our own body to fight against harmful viruses.

A normal healthy body can 'fight against microbes' just fine without vaccines in most cases.  Now if 'science' starts 'turbo-charging' and 'jacking with' certain elements of an immune system, which is what current adjuvated vaccines do, it is fairly obvious that it can fuck up the immune system as a whole.  Lots of times it gets totally confused and starts eating up the body itself.  The we see an epidemic of auto-immune related ailments.  Diabetes, MS, lupus, artheritis, etc, etc.  Also a lot of times when the immune system just does not work right and fall-out like 'hay fever.'

The 'good news' is that the vaccinated people are highly profitable throughout the rest of their lives to the pharma industry as they struggle with their various conditions.  Better yet, their lives are shortened so 'we' don't have to expend as much to support these 'useless eaters' and 'cannon fodder' as they age beyond their productive years.  In the U.S., this will extend the life-span of the social security ponzi scheme.  Other socialist countries gain a similar benefit for their brand of ponzi scheme.

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This website is known for its anti-vaccines propaganda, and so is OP.
Many of its crap articles have been debunked numerous times by real scientific websites.
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A pilot study of 666 homeschooled kids
yeah really makes you think.
The unvaccinated of course.  Vaccines were given to children so that their bodies can fight against microbes that destroys someone else's body or immune system.  To avoid sickness and for our own body to fight against harmful viruses.
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I don't know about all vaccines, but we are seeing lesser cases of polio and diphtheria after a decade the vaccine program was forced.
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Before the vaccination and modern medicine, we had a lifespan of 16 to 17 years.

I think world history would look a little different if it had been entirely forged by hormonal brats on the verge of carking it. Your figures might be a little off.

I LOLed my ass off Wink

Just read this article today, this is a perfect example of why getting vaccinated is kind of a 'duh' thing at this day and age.

http://www.rawstory.com/2017/05/measles-sweeps-an-immigrant-community-targeted-by-anti-vaccine-activists/

Raises an interesting point. Does autism go down in communities where vaccination isn't as prevalent/is purposefully avoided? I suspect no, but this metric would go a long way in proving/disproving the link between autism and vaccinations.

The risk truly isn't worth it, people. It's a reason why these particular diseases were singled out, they cause great harm to the populace and are subject to rampant spread.  I think the majority of us would chose autism over possible death, ESP when that risk of autism is so miniscule.

I really just don't understand anti-vaxxers, how they go to that conclusion. Even as a kid I understood it's just like having chickenpox, except that you don't have to go through the process of getting sick. Some diseases are also dangerous since you don't know whether you have them and during all that time you can actually spread them. HPV causes several types of cancer. People in my country usually find they have hepatitis when they finally get liver cancer. My mom got malaria as a kid and so can't donate blood, apparently she's still a carrier. I know malaria can't be vaccinated against but I believe you understand where I'm getting at.

I believe it's not about being vaccinated or unvaccinated.Because ,if you are sick, you are sick.It won't change the fact.There are many types  (purpose) of vaccine.Some are designed to kill and some are designed to cure.It depends..So we can't say or guess who is sicker.
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I am a supporter of vaccination and do not believe that this can harm the health.
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The Amish, who don't get vaccinated, rarely get autism, cancer, or heart disease – coincidence?





Although the link between vaccines and autism is nothing new, to even speak of it can get you labeled as an "anti-vaxxer" or a health fanatic of sorts by the sheeple (brainwashed masses) that believe every vaccine the CDC recommends not only works, but is 100% safe and 100% effective 100% of the time. Even if some vaccines work some of the time, are they worth the health risk? That is the ultimate question, because one statistic you may not know is that children who receive mercury-containing vaccinations (listed as thimerosal usually) are 27 times more likely to develop autism than those who don't get those jabs. That comes from a recent study based on the CDC's own data. Still want to keep it a hush-hush topic?


Read more at http://www.dcclothesline.com/2017/11/03/the-amish-who-dont-get-vaccinated-rarely-get-autism-cancer-or-heart-disease-coincidence/.


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Landmark Study Establishes Link Between the Aluminum in Most Vaccines & Autism





It is no question that the subject of vaccines is profoundly controversial. On both sides of the argument exists truth and lies that can hinder the ability of some to make rational decisions.

While we have everyone from attorneys to biologists, to political scientists who write for the Free Thought Project, none of us are doctors, so we do not make recommendations about what you and your family should do in regards to vaccination. That being said, when we see critical information about vaccines that fails to be covered in the mainstream media, we will cover it every time.

This is one of those times.

A peer-reviewed study published online this week and set to be published in the December volume of the Journal of Inorganic Biochemistry, conducted by scientists at the University of British Columbia, has established a link between a popular aluminum vaccine ingredient and autism.


Read more and click the links at http://thefreethoughtproject.com/study-link-aluminum-vaccines-autism/.


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I've been following Tomljenovic's and Shaw's research since I got interested in the subject of vaccines several years ago.  It's very compelling, and I'm glad to see this published.  I would expect that within a week the publisher retracts the study and these two scientists be widely condemned as frauds all over the mainstream jnews.  That's the way these things go time and time again.  These two people, and the other authors, are brave souls indeed.  I hope for a day when they are given the highest honors.  Not Nobel prizes which have become a sick joke.

Shaw and Tomljenovic's work on the brain tissue of girls who died from the HPV vaccine was very interesting (and shocking.)  At this point I've high confidence that vaccine regimes are first and foremost a eugenics program.  I know it sounds harsh and 'crazy', but there is just so much evidence out there to indicate it.

I guess it wasn't posted on this thread, but here's a high-powered doctor who say that since it's mostly 'white people' who refuse to have their kids shot up will all of the vaccines, the solution is to get rid of white people.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wyXuPwsLGWI

Of course she was joking in a certain way, but the idea is clearly in her mind and she is not alone.  That's the kind of people who sit on such panels making decisions about the average citizen's health.  When you get a bunch of people like those on this panel talking about 'for the future of our kids', it should not be taken on faith that the 'our kids' she is talking about are the same ones which are getting the shots.  I've heard numerous times that doctors scratch one-another's backs to make it so their kids get certified without actually taking the shots.  Of course that doesn't make it automatically true, but usually when I hear the same thing over and over again it turns out to have a basis in reality.  It's a certainty that if I had kids, I would seek out some sleezebag doctor and pay him/her off to empty the syringe into the sink and I'll bet I'm not the only one.

Also, it is worth note that Google is playing games with vids of this awful 'Baker' creature.  One (of many) clips of her rant usually show up in a Youtube search of the string 'carol baker', but if one sorts by date, nothing.  This in spite of the string being in the title of the vid.  When Google hand tunes results like this (and I've seen it on various occasions) you know the subject is important to the social engineers.  This is actually a fairly valuable marker.

Decent discussion of the panel here:  https://fellowshipoftheminds.com/2017/09/17/baylor-u-professor-m-d-carol-baker-lets-just-get-rid-of-all-the-whites-in-the-united-states/#comments

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I think vaccines are made to control the spread of the disease and to lower your chance to be infected. Vaccines are not the reason why they are more prone to the diseases compared to unvaccinated children.  As we can see, children without immunization are more susceptible to the disease their body are lack of antibodies that will fight the viruses or bacteria thats why they are the one who suffered more severely that the children with fully immunized. Whether or not vaccinated, still both of them are prone to disease but the only differerence is who among then have the higher percentage of survival, the one without receiving any immunization or the other one who is fully immunized.

It is not rocket science. Immunized children have a much higher life span when compared to those who are not vaccinated. If we stop vaccination, then many of the diseases which were eradicated from the face of the earth, such as smallpox and polio will come back and reduce the human lifespan to 40 years.
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Landmark Study Establishes Link Between the Aluminum in Most Vaccines & Autism





It is no question that the subject of vaccines is profoundly controversial. On both sides of the argument exists truth and lies that can hinder the ability of some to make rational decisions.

While we have everyone from attorneys to biologists, to political scientists who write for the Free Thought Project, none of us are doctors, so we do not make recommendations about what you and your family should do in regards to vaccination. That being said, when we see critical information about vaccines that fails to be covered in the mainstream media, we will cover it every time.

This is one of those times.

A peer-reviewed study published online this week and set to be published in the December volume of the Journal of Inorganic Biochemistry, conducted by scientists at the University of British Columbia, has established a link between a popular aluminum vaccine ingredient and autism.


Read more and click the links at http://thefreethoughtproject.com/study-link-aluminum-vaccines-autism/.


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I think vaccines are made to control the spread of the disease and to lower your chance to be infected. Vaccines are not the reason why they are more prone to the diseases compared to unvaccinated children.  As we can see, children without immunization are more susceptible to the disease their body are lack of antibodies that will fight the viruses or bacteria thats why they are the one who suffered more severely that the children with fully immunized. Whether or not vaccinated, still both of them are prone to disease but the only differerence is who among then have the higher percentage of survival, the one without receiving any immunization or the other one who is fully immunized.
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I find it unbelievable that the vaccines discussion contaminated even this forum! It is an important issue, yes, but I never met an anti-vaccine person that was convinced by arguments to vaccinate himself or his/her children. I find the anti-vaccine movement rather a sort of religion - and I say this as a mother who has a son who was a suspect of autism at some point.
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Psychiatric drugs is big business in the United States. The pharma cartels are reaping profits of tens of billions of USD in profits every year, and they are ruining the lives of millions of people. But the biggest irony is that these drugs are legal in the very same states where soft-drugs such as marijuana, peyote and ayahuasca are illegal.
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Babies on Drugs in America? 1984 Predicted it





Over a million kids in America six years old and under are on psychiatric drugs — mostly to treat anxiety.

Let that sink in.

I have to ask. Is the U.S. really becoming this out of touch? And I mean that literally.

Author Ray Williams, a contributor to Psychology Today, offered an important question back in 2010: "In our desire to have a politically correct and safe social environment, or an environment of instant communication, have we lost sight of the most important aspect of human development and culture  — physical touch?"

The science is in: After food, water and shelter, there's little more important to kids, especially babies, than human contact. Without simple human contact, in fact, babies can die.

This is the case, actually, to varying degrees, for all mammals.

In many litters of puppies and kittens, for example, there are sometimes one or two animals that come out enfeebled — as the "runts."


Read more at https://lfb.org/babies-on-drugs-in-america/.


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I am not sure where these studies are conducted,but what i can tell about this is complete bullshit,you need to be vaccinated and take proper treatment ,just avoiding these could not solve any issues,i am not sure how these kind of lies are being spread,if it is a authentic study i want to see the data and i want to know how this is collected.

Yes. Avoiding the vaccination is a stupid thing. We are already seeing the negative effects of that in countries such as Nigeria, Pakistan and Afghanistan, where the polio epidemic is spreading.
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Physicists Try to Revive a Super-Safe, Decades-Old Cancer Treatment





At first glance, they look like they've been lopped off the top of department store mannequins. But they're more lifelike than that—made of materials that mimic bone, flesh, and brain. "One of them even has a gold filling," he says.

For the last six years, Johnson, a physicist at the University of California, Santa Cruz, has been working on a machine that shoots protons through the human skull. His goal: to use protons instead of conventional X-rays to take 3-D images inside cancer patients. But first, he has to perfect the technology on his model skulls.

His prototype can map the dummy's head in about six minutes. It can find the gold filling inside the dummy's mouth. And most importantly, it can recognize a tumor. While his machine isn't yet good enough to make a diagnosis—X-ray images still have better resolution—that's not the point. Johnson thinks that a proton-based image, even a blurry one, can guide a cancer treatment known as proton therapy better than a conventional X-ray.


Read more at https://www.wired.com/story/physicists-try-to-revive-a-super-safe-decades-old-cancer-treatment/.


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I am not sure where these studies are conducted,but what i can tell about this is complete bullshit,you need to be vaccinated and take proper treatment ,just avoiding these could not solve any issues,i am not sure how these kind of lies are being spread,if it is a authentic study i want to see the data and i want to know how this is collected.

Same points for studies in favor of vaccines.

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