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randywald

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Quote from: fetcher on December 23, 2014, 07:09:41 AM

зaчeт, пapни.

we need to decrease block reward x15-20 times from now.

Mining is not the problem. The problem is that no one is interested in the coin which i clearly see in daily trading volume.

Akvilon_v

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Quote from: poiuty on December 23, 2014, 06:24:38 AM

Taк oни xoтят чтo-тo cдeлaть c инфляциeй. Ho ecли этo oпять pacтянeтcя нa гoд - в этoм нe бyдeт никoгo cмыcлa.

Дык, oпepaтивнo мyтить нaдo. Пoкa чтo cлышим cлeдyющee:
- Кaк пoлeт, Maэcтpo?
- Bce нopмaльнo! Пaдaю! Grin

Show me buisness, which is ready to accept vertcoin with 90% inflation value. Only crazy one, I guess.

First, need decrease subsidy.
Second, after solving inflation problems, must make more real and virtual goods available to buy for vert. Sellers and buyers must experience the benefits using vertcoin.
Without this things any PR is pointless.

Клятыe кaпитaлиcты, кaк дeти мaлыe, чecтнoe cлoвo.

Imho, technically vert is the best coin, lyra2 is great, but dev's quickness in decision-making strongly depresses.
Kind regards, твoй кpoлик нaпиcaл. )))

fetcher

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зaчeт, пapни.

we need to decrease block reward x15-20 times from now.

poiuty

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Taк oни xoтят чтo-тo cдeлaть c инфляциeй. Ho ecли этo oпять pacтянeтcя нa гoд - в этoм нe бyдeт никoгo cмыcлa.

PR now will not work. Make anything with inflation.

For PR - we need make new site. We need to help those who want to accept payment in vertcoin on website/ online store.
We need to make a list of "where you can spend vertcoin" on the main site.
We need to do a separate own forum.

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Ёбaный в poт, блядь. Зaeбaли yжe c нoдaми, пyлaми и пpoчeй тexничecкoй xyйнёй вoзитьcя. Инфляция и тaк yжe вepтyxaю в poт дaлa пo caмыe глaнды. Пoкa мoнeтa пo пиздe нe пoйдeт пoлнocтью, дeвы чecaтьcя нe бyдyт. Пиздeц нaxyй.

Make anything with inflation!

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Quote from: jwinterm on December 22, 2014, 01:14:22 PM

Quote from: jamesl22 on December 22, 2014, 12:48:59 PM

Quote from: jwinterm on December 22, 2014, 12:02:39 PM

Quote from: jamesl22 on December 22, 2014, 11:28:04 AM

New blog post: Vertcoin Roadmap

https://vertcoin.org/wp/vertcoin-roadmap/

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1. PR Campaign
2. Hyper-Adaptive Block Confirmation (HABC)
3. Final discussion on subsidy reduction
4. Final discussion on increasing block maturity time

In my opinion, this is the wrong order, and it should be exactly reversed. I don't think it makes sense to try an launch a PR campaign, while promising a new feature and leaving some very critical issues (altering coin emission primarily and block maturity secondarily) to be determined at some later date. It's like, "hey guys, check out this awesome coin that we're gonna try and add a cool new feature to, and we may or may not change some critical details about the coin as well." I think the block maturity and coin emission issues should definitely be put to bed before any PR campaign, and ideally any awesome new features should be added before spending a bunch of money trying to market vertcoin. Just my two mVTC.

It's in this order primarily because we don't want to have to change the subsidy or block maturity time ideally. Thus we will only need to continue with these points if the PR campaign fails to solve the lack of investment we are seeing. HABC will take some time to implement and test fully, and we don't want Vertcoin to have no PR for that long.

Why would someone want to invest in something that can't commit to a defined schedule for coin emission? I'm not in favor of changing the subsidy either, but I think keeping it on the table amounts to uncertainty in the coin's future, and that uncertainty makes it more difficult for anyone to have confidence in vert.

do listen to that guy.

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Quote from: LTCMAXMYR on December 22, 2014, 07:56:44 PM

Quote from: djm34 on December 22, 2014, 12:56:05 PM

Quote from: wgd on December 22, 2014, 12:53:48 PM

what's up with that price? for the moment basement, without asic and fly like an airplane hit :/

gpu miner facts #1 A gpu miner can't hold a coin for more than 10minutes without trying to dump it in a exchange Grin

gpu miner facts #2: a gpu miner miner wants always to sell his coin first, no matter what
gpu miner facts #3: Sell panic is the normal state of mind of gpu miners, because they always thinks other gpu miner will try to sell first and lower than them... and actually that's what they do
gpu miner facts #4: gpu miners love to complain about how unprofitable a coin is, that's why they don't care about keeping a coin profitable

(better than Chuck Norris facts, Gpu miner facts)

so,change algo ,means kick off the asic miner,and leave behind the GPU miner dumping the price to floor?
and dev kill the coin?
the profit is very low now,it is not worth to mine and dump.

never said it was logical Grin

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DMD,XZC

Quote from: djm34 on December 22, 2014, 12:56:05 PM

Quote from: wgd on December 22, 2014, 12:53:48 PM

what's up with that price? for the moment basement, without asic and fly like an airplane hit :/

gpu miner facts #1 A gpu miner can't hold a coin for more than 10minutes without trying to dump it in a exchange Grin

gpu miner facts #2: a gpu miner miner wants always to sell his coin first, no matter what
gpu miner facts #3: Sell panic is the normal state of mind of gpu miners, because they always thinks other gpu miner will try to sell first and lower than them... and actually that's what they do
gpu miner facts #4: gpu miners love to complain about how unprofitable a coin is, that's why they don't care about keeping a coin profitable

(better than Chuck Norris facts, Gpu miner facts)

so,change algo ,means kick off the asic miner,and leave behind the GPU miner dumping the price to floor?
and dev kill the coin?
the profit is very low now,it is not worth to mine and dump.

djm34

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Quote from: Giulini on December 22, 2014, 05:55:24 PM

just transfered 65 VTC to an exchange, that was over a week GPU-mining, no cent profit at all, think relation earnings to costs is around 20 %, I am in it not for the money, but for what ?

That's exactly what I was saying... Grin

if it isn't profitable don't sell... wait... what can I say Grin

sure it can get worst (or not), but that won't change a lot for you that you sell them or not...
seriously 3$ do you really need them now ?
The main problem is that all miner tends to think like that... then price decreases...

I am not a big trader, but what's clear is don't sell if you don't need too...

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Quote from: ocminer on December 22, 2014, 05:49:45 PM

Quote from: djm34 on December 22, 2014, 01:31:09 PM

Quote from: cakir on December 22, 2014, 01:27:18 PM

Quote from: ocminer on December 22, 2014, 01:23:56 PM

Quote from: cakir on December 22, 2014, 01:22:00 PM

Quote from: ocminer on December 22, 2014, 01:17:23 PM

Quote from: cakir on December 22, 2014, 01:15:11 PM

Is there a cuda miner for computer 2.0 graphic cards? (I'm using gt540m, and current cudaminer says 250Mhs Grin

but no shares accepted)

add -l 256

There's no option on windows cudaminer like that. what else could it be?

hmm.. you have to set the multiplier correct.. it should be "-L (l) or maybe -I (i) ? "

Well, there's not a multiplier option, these are the all options I get: http://i.imgur.com/rWTal0z.png
I downloaded this miner from the first message on this topic. Probably computer 2.0 cards aren't supported yet...

there is one multipler option -diff (right in the middle of your pic -f or -diff)
and no computer 2.0 aren't supported (you might ask KBomba, may-be he will do it)

edit: fyi compute 2.0 isn't supported anymore in cuda 6.5 (min version: compute 2.1)

@djm34: what can i do with some GTX 580's ? are they supported in any case ?

which compute version is this ? (currently there is only support down to compute 3.0)

To support the previous compute version, that requires to remove all the x-algo and probably those using groeslt or alternatively include lyra2re in an early version of ccminer. I can try to do that tomorrow if I find a moment (but can't test it...)

kahir

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will like the diff drop when those miners wake up at a loss

Giulini

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just transfered 65 VTC to an exchange, that was over a week GPU-mining, no cent profit at all, think relation earnings to costs is around 20 %, I am in it not for the money, but for what ?

Quote from: sickfancy on December 22, 2014, 03:48:31 PM

Quote from: djm34 on December 22, 2014, 12:56:05 PM

Quote from: wgd on December 22, 2014, 12:53:48 PM

what's up with that price? for the moment basement, without asic and fly like an airplane hit :/

gpu miner facts #1 A gpu miner can't hold a coin for more than 10minutes without trying to dump it in a exchange Grin

gpu miner facts #2: a gpu miner miner wants always to sell his coin first, no matter what
gpu miner facts #3: Sell panic is the normal state of mind of gpu miners, because they always thinks other gpu miner will try to sell first and lower than them... and actually that's what they do
gpu miner facts #4: gpu miners love to complain about how unprofitable a coin is, that's why they don't care about keeping a coin profitable

(better than Chuck Norris facts, Gpu miner facts)

I'd like to add fact #4: gpu miners feel very accomplished when they profit 1cent per week.

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Quote from: djm34 on December 22, 2014, 01:31:09 PM

Quote from: cakir on December 22, 2014, 01:27:18 PM

Quote from: ocminer on December 22, 2014, 01:23:56 PM

Quote from: cakir on December 22, 2014, 01:22:00 PM

Quote from: ocminer on December 22, 2014, 01:17:23 PM

Quote from: cakir on December 22, 2014, 01:15:11 PM

Is there a cuda miner for computer 2.0 graphic cards? (I'm using gt540m, and current cudaminer says 250Mhs Grin

but no shares accepted)

add -l 256

There's no option on windows cudaminer like that. what else could it be?

hmm.. you have to set the multiplier correct.. it should be "-L (l) or maybe -I (i) ? "

Well, there's not a multiplier option, these are the all options I get: http://i.imgur.com/rWTal0z.png
I downloaded this miner from the first message on this topic. Probably computer 2.0 cards aren't supported yet...

there is one multipler option -diff (right in the middle of your pic -f or -diff)
and no computer 2.0 aren't supported (you might ask KBomba, may-be he will do it)

edit: fyi compute 2.0 isn't supported anymore in cuda 6.5 (min version: compute 2.1)

@djm34: what can i do with some GTX 580's ? are they supported in any case ?

Giulini

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solved

Quote from: Giulini on December 22, 2014, 01:26:42 PM

Problem with Verters Mining Pool. Withdraw not possible, no contact mails possible.
What is going on ?

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Quote from: djm34 on December 22, 2014, 12:56:05 PM

Quote from: wgd on December 22, 2014, 12:53:48 PM

what's up with that price? for the moment basement, without asic and fly like an airplane hit :/

gpu miner facts #1 A gpu miner can't hold a coin for more than 10minutes without trying to dump it in a exchange Grin

gpu miner facts #2: a gpu miner miner wants always to sell his coin first, no matter what
gpu miner facts #3: Sell panic is the normal state of mind of gpu miners, because they always thinks other gpu miner will try to sell first and lower than them... and actually that's what they do
gpu miner facts #4: gpu miners love to complain about how unprofitable a coin is, that's why they don't care about keeping a coin profitable

(better than Chuck Norris facts, Gpu miner facts)

I'd like to add fact #4: gpu miners feel very accomplished when they profit 1cent per week.

djm34

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Quote from: cakir on December 22, 2014, 01:27:18 PM

Quote from: ocminer on December 22, 2014, 01:23:56 PM

Quote from: cakir on December 22, 2014, 01:22:00 PM

Quote from: ocminer on December 22, 2014, 01:17:23 PM

Quote from: cakir on December 22, 2014, 01:15:11 PM

Is there a cuda miner for computer 2.0 graphic cards? (I'm using gt540m, and current cudaminer says 250Mhs Grin

but no shares accepted)

add -l 256

There's no option on windows cudaminer like that. what else could it be?

hmm.. you have to set the multiplier correct.. it should be "-L (l) or maybe -I (i) ? "

Well, there's not a multiplier option, these are the all options I get: http://i.imgur.com/rWTal0z.png
I downloaded this miner from the first message on this topic. Probably computer 2.0 cards aren't supported yet...

there is one multipler option -diff (right in the middle of your pic -f or -diff)
and no computer 2.0 aren't supported (you might ask KBomba, may-be he will do it)

edit: fyi compute 2.0 isn't supported anymore in cuda 6.5 (min version: compute 2.1)

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Quote from: ocminer on December 22, 2014, 01:23:56 PM

Quote from: cakir on December 22, 2014, 01:22:00 PM

Quote from: ocminer on December 22, 2014, 01:17:23 PM

Quote from: cakir on December 22, 2014, 01:15:11 PM

Is there a cuda miner for computer 2.0 graphic cards? (I'm using gt540m, and current cudaminer says 250Mhs Grin

but no shares accepted)

add -l 256

There's no option on windows cudaminer like that. what else could it be?

hmm.. you have to set the multiplier correct.. it should be "-L (l) or maybe -I (i) ? "

Well, there's not a multiplier option, these are the all options I get: http://i.imgur.com/rWTal0z.png
I downloaded this miner from the first message on this topic. Probably computer 2.0 cards aren't supported yet...

Giulini

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Problem with Verters Mining Pool. Withdraw not possible, no contact mails possible.
What is going on ?

djm34

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Quote from: ocminer on December 22, 2014, 01:23:56 PM

Quote from: cakir on December 22, 2014, 01:22:00 PM

Quote from: ocminer on December 22, 2014, 01:17:23 PM

Quote from: cakir on December 22, 2014, 01:15:11 PM

Is there a cuda miner for computer 2.0 graphic cards? (I'm using gt540m, and current cudaminer says 250Mhs Grin

but no shares accepted)

add -l 256

There's no option on windows cudaminer like that. what else could it be?

hmm.. you have to set the multiplier correct.. it should be "-L (l) or maybe -I (i) ? "

--diff 256
however compute 2.0 card aren't supported

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Quote from: cakir on December 22, 2014, 01:22:00 PM

Quote from: ocminer on December 22, 2014, 01:17:23 PM

Quote from: cakir on December 22, 2014, 01:15:11 PM

Is there a cuda miner for computer 2.0 graphic cards? (I'm using gt540m, and current cudaminer says 250Mhs Grin

but no shares accepted)

add -l 256

There's no option on windows cudaminer like that. what else could it be?

hmm.. you have to set the multiplier correct.. it should be "-L (l) or maybe -I (i) ? "

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