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Quote from: joker_josue on January 25, 2022, 05:54:34 AM

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Many ads do not tell how they work instead just tempt people to join them and if people join without research, they will make their own mistake. That makes many people lose their money without a chance to make money. People should be cautious when they watch the ads and not do something that can get the worst experience. Maybe Youtube is still trying to monitor all of the ads that can make people ruin themselves, but it still needs time for Youtube to ban the wrong ads.

Look, Google even controls YouTube ads very well. The problem is that often what is advertised, there is nothing wrong.

I can create a YouTube ad, and just say, "I can tell you four ways to make money, easily and effectively. Don't miss the opportunity to increase your income and have what you love most."
And then the service I provide is to refer people to websites or services that allow people to earn money through work or investment.

This is not wrong, nor is it a lie. But it really is a rogue scheme, to take money from people, about things they already know.

Unfortunately this will be difficult to eliminate, and for Google to ban. Then, it may not even be in the ads themselves, but in the videos on the platform, and in that sense it's even more difficult.

That is not wrong because you only give information to them and whether they will click on the links or leave it and that depends on them.

But we already have seen many ads that will not be like that. Even some ads can be misleading the audience by saying, "I am making a thousand bucks by doing this simple thing."

Google will hard to detect those ads as it needs more inspection or monitoring of their ads but they can warn the advertisers from the audience reports. If they still do not obey the rules, Google can ban or block their accounts and not allow them to use their site. But that will not stop them from creating new accounts.

Google couldn't control or stop ads like that but we could still do something to get rid of them. Since they're targeting players to bet or to spend too many funds, we should also take responsibility by being skeptical and observant of different ads that we may find online. Scammers are over the internet so we should always be wiser than them.

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Quote from: CDC AP on January 28, 2022, 12:40:29 PM

This is how marketing strategies work, everything can be soooo interesting and also worthy to take when seeing from the advertisement and promotions . They will not care about what they use, they only want to get more people to use the platforms.

And that is why we are ourselves that must be aware about it, smart, and also careful about that kind of promotion. They will seem so legit. And many people become victims.

I agree with you, we should be the last line of defense here, marketing strategies don't care about morals or ethics, it's a matter of perspective in the end line, they just wish to attract more people, that's why they tend to be provocative in some way!
But we are the ones who are making the final decision, if it looks too good to be true it probably isn't, so check it twice before you enter! There's not better advise here, there are too many commercials out there, and all of them wish to attract more people!

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Quote from: CDC AP on January 28, 2022, 12:40:29 PM

This is how marketing strategies work, everything can be soooo interesting and also worthy to take when seeing from the advertisement and promotions . They will not care about what they use, they only want to get more people to use the platforms.

There's no reason for them to care, all they care is about the marketing and how effective it is.

Quote from: CDC AP on January 28, 2022, 12:40:29 PM

And that is why we are ourselves that must be aware about it, smart, and also careful about that kind of promotion. They will seem so legit. And many people become victims.

And if they only care to get more customers, what we should care about is all about ourselves. If you understand what marketing they use, don't be indulged with it so that you won't be the one that they're targeting.

Those people that understand that this marketing really is unlikeable to them, just shun it.

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Very immoral market strategy? No,I see nothing immoral here.In these Video You can see how to played and how to winning big amount. Yeah i know most of them they are paid reviewer and promote and use their reffer link.Gambling is our much responsibility. I think It's Marketing strategy is normal. Coz they are showing real things.

Like what I previously mentioned, it is somehow difficult to draw the line on what is considered to be 'immoral' as paid advertisements and projects may NOT be considered as such. Remember that these YouTubers or influencers do these kinds of stuff for their income also. While it may sound selfish, I mean it benefits them when they get paid to advertise such online gambling platform.

Personally, what is immoral is when online casinos tend to advertise their websites and intentionally tampers the rates of winning. Like they employ influencers but they rigged the chances of winning, causing it to at least fool the majority believing that you can win large amounts of money or experience a winning streak.

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This is how marketing strategies work, everything can be soooo interesting and also worthy to take when seeing from the advertisement and promotions . They will not care about what they use, they only want to get more people to use the platforms.

And that is why we are ourselves that must be aware about it, smart, and also careful about that kind of promotion. They will seem so legit. And many people become victims.

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Quote from: Betwrong on January 28, 2022, 05:47:36 AM

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Quote from: Betwrong on January 26, 2022, 05:47:47 AM

Good point. When we ask for regulations, we should understand that many of good stuff can be banned too along the way. I bet there are no dishonest streamers and no scammers on the North Korea's national intranet, called Kwangmyong. But do we need such a thing? I don't think so.

I would add that we all don’t really know anything at all about what is happening with the Internet in North Korea, as well as, in general, how the citizens of this mysterious country for the world community live there. But, I think, of course, Internet scammers become there - it's deadly. However, everyone knows about some hackers from North Korea who mine bitcoins and maybe dollars for their country.

Yeah, but obviously all those hackers are working for the North Korean government. If you are an independent hacker in North Korea - you dead.

Quote from: delfastTions on January 26, 2022, 06:15:27 AM

As for immoral advertising, as I recently found out, in general, the advertising market is already 1/3 on TV, and 2/3 on the Internet in terms of the cost of this advertising. At the same time, there is almost no regulation on the Internet and immoral advertising on the Internet knows no boundaries and brakes at all. And whatever one may say, any of us faces it from time to time.
And I have no idea what will happen to the restrictions on advertising when we all move to Web 3.0

I have no idea either. Are we moving to Web 3.0 at all? And if we are, will the internet, as we know it today, be completely abandoned? I mean, you can download any book to your kindle, but people still buy paper books. Let's hope for the best, though. Let's hope in the Web 3.0 will be no "immoral marketing", whatever that means.

I like your idea about web 3.0, but we are still on the stage of the concept, I think. Blockchain offers many opportunities, but to build web 3.0, we have to reset our minds first. Humanity is too centralized and even at those Blockchain dawn times, we have seen centralized exchanges instead of decentralized ones. Decenstralized Internet is looking like a city on the cloud. When it comes to online casinos, the idea of decentralized gambling sites is great, but you should never forget that one day the blockchain itself may be abandoned. If this happens, the casino that is built on this Blockchain will be closed automatically. It looks non-realistc, but with this huge number of blockchains nowadays, this may become true one day.

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Quote from: delfastTions on January 26, 2022, 06:15:27 AM

Quote from: Betwrong on January 26, 2022, 05:47:47 AM

Good point. When we ask for regulations, we should understand that many of good stuff can be banned too along the way. I bet there are no dishonest streamers and no scammers on the North Korea's national intranet, called Kwangmyong. But do we need such a thing? I don't think so.

I would add that we all don’t really know anything at all about what is happening with the Internet in North Korea, as well as, in general, how the citizens of this mysterious country for the world community live there. But, I think, of course, Internet scammers become there - it's deadly. However, everyone knows about some hackers from North Korea who mine bitcoins and maybe dollars for their country.

Yeah, but obviously all those hackers are working for the North Korean government. If you are an independent hacker in North Korea - you dead.

Quote from: delfastTions on January 26, 2022, 06:15:27 AM

As for immoral advertising, as I recently found out, in general, the advertising market is already 1/3 on TV, and 2/3 on the Internet in terms of the cost of this advertising. At the same time, there is almost no regulation on the Internet and immoral advertising on the Internet knows no boundaries and brakes at all. And whatever one may say, any of us faces it from time to time.
And I have no idea what will happen to the restrictions on advertising when we all move to Web 3.0

I have no idea either. Are we moving to Web 3.0 at all? And if we are, will the internet, as we know it today, be completely abandoned? I mean, you can download any book to your kindle, but people still buy paper books. Let's hope for the best, though. Let's hope in the Web 3.0 will be no "immoral marketing", whatever that means.

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Quote from: Betwrong on January 26, 2022, 05:47:47 AM

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Quote from: Betwrong on January 24, 2022, 06:46:13 AM

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I think you should always rely on your own instead of waiting for someone to do all job instead of you. There are plenty of ways to scam people and those Youtube Vloggers are not the worst devils on the Earth. You should always keep your eyes open as you can be deceived at any particular moment of your life. Too many financial services and all this stuff that want you to give them your money for nothing. So, it is important for each of us to be on guard to avoid scam traps.

That's right, don't wait for regulations to come, regulate it for yourself by yourself. If you think a video should be banned - don't watch it, or, maybe not watching anything from that channel would be a good idea.

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Quote from: pieppiep on January 25, 2022, 03:28:55 AM

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Unfortunately this will be difficult to eliminate, and for Google to ban. Then, it may not even be in the ads themselves, but in the videos on the platform, and in that sense it's even more difficult.

Good point. When we ask for regulations, we should understand that many of good stuff can be banned too along the way. I bet there are no dishonest streamers and no scammers on the North Korea's national intranet, called Kwangmyong. But do we need such a thing? I don't think so.

Agree. You and only you can control your gambling journey. No one will help you with that. If you feel you things go out of your control, it is better to leave it.

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Quote from: Betwrong on January 26, 2022, 05:47:47 AM

Good point. When we ask for regulations, we should understand that many of good stuff can be banned too along the way. I bet there are no dishonest streamers and no scammers on the North Korea's national intranet, called Kwangmyong. But do we need such a thing? I don't think so.

I would add that we all don’t really know anything at all about what is happening with the Internet in North Korea, as well as, in general, how the citizens of this mysterious country for the world community live there. But, I think, of course, Internet scammers become there - it's deadly. However, everyone knows about some hackers from North Korea who mine bitcoins and maybe dollars for their country.

As for immoral advertising, as I recently found out, in general, the advertising market is already 1/3 on TV, and 2/3 on the Internet in terms of the cost of this advertising. At the same time, there is almost no regulation on the Internet and immoral advertising on the Internet knows no boundaries and brakes at all. And whatever one may say, any of us faces it from time to time.
And I have no idea what will happen to the restrictions on advertising when we all move to Web 3.0

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Quote from: carlfebz2 on January 21, 2022, 03:41:36 PM

for each possible advertisement or streams that in relate with marketing but as a viewer/fan then we arent that dumb on not to notice things or could really make out some verification

first before do making some such step because we do have our own self will on doing things and not needed for some sort of those extras.

Man, i had seen drug advertisement on youtube few years ago Grin

Here it, news about this case, but in russian (you need to translate a little bit) - https://vc.ru/flood/25751-youtube-hydra

So it's weird to ask Youtube for moderating of gambling advertisement in video, if it can't properly moderate it's own video prerolls Grin

And i think, that Youtube do not want to moderate it. So, all hopes for the regulations.

Any persons that is waiting for the regulation of influencers content is wasting their time because Youtube are making their own money from content viewers which makes it difficult for such expectation. Individual gambling should take necessary precautions to avoid being scammed or interacting with fame projects.

What happens is that for there to be a regulation it is very difficult, since now it is not possible to determine what is a scam or not, because there is no regulation in this regard, and there are many complaints worldwide to regulate everything related to crypto , for example NFT games, because metaverses and games of metaverses are coming, many hope that there will be a regulation like there was with ICOs, but I think that this is not the solution because when there are regulations it is very difficult to adapt, there is a clear chance with the metaverses, just wait and see how they can handle certain vulnerabilities.

Back in the past on which people do really whine off about regulation about those ICO projects back in the past which it didnt really happen and now they are asking the same thing with the current hype and interest on the market.You wouldnt really be dumb on not to make out some research in regarding with these things and when you do see something which isnt out of your taste
then its not really bad to make out some considerations on making out some research first before dealing whether its regulated or not.

It would be the ideal thing to execute first before going on something but unfortunately majority has been drag on the platform because someone invite them in or they just see their ads about earning money for just doing simple things that's why sometimes research has been done by this people at the end. Also not surprising if there are people get hype for something related with winnings or gaining profits since this is human nature and people always want to earn.

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Quote from: Betwrong on January 24, 2022, 06:46:13 AM

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I think you should always rely on your own instead of waiting for someone to do all job instead of you. There are plenty of ways to scam people and those Youtube Vloggers are not the worst devils on the Earth. You should always keep your eyes open as you can be deceived at any particular moment of your life. Too many financial services and all this stuff that want you to give them your money for nothing. So, it is important for each of us to be on guard to avoid scam traps.

That's right, don't wait for regulations to come, regulate it for yourself by yourself. If you think a video should be banned - don't watch it, or, maybe not watching anything from that channel would be a good idea.

Quote from: joker_josue on January 25, 2022, 05:54:34 AM

Quote from: pieppiep on January 25, 2022, 03:28:55 AM

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Unfortunately this will be difficult to eliminate, and for Google to ban. Then, it may not even be in the ads themselves, but in the videos on the platform, and in that sense it's even more difficult.

Good point. When we ask for regulations, we should understand that many of good stuff can be banned too along the way. I bet there are no dishonest streamers and no scammers on the North Korea's national intranet, called Kwangmyong. But do we need such a thing? I don't think so.

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Quote from: Desmong on January 24, 2022, 04:41:09 PM

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Quote from: carlfebz2 on January 21, 2022, 03:41:36 PM

for each possible advertisement or streams that in relate with marketing but as a viewer/fan then we arent that dumb on not to notice things or could really make out some verification

first before do making some such step because we do have our own self will on doing things and not needed for some sort of those extras.

Man, i had seen drug advertisement on youtube few years ago Grin

Here it, news about this case, but in russian (you need to translate a little bit) - https://vc.ru/flood/25751-youtube-hydra

So it's weird to ask Youtube for moderating of gambling advertisement in video, if it can't properly moderate it's own video prerolls Grin

And i think, that Youtube do not want to moderate it. So, all hopes for the regulations.

Any persons that is waiting for the regulation of influencers content is wasting their time because Youtube are making their own money from content viewers which makes it difficult for such expectation. Individual gambling should take necessary precautions to avoid being scammed or interacting with fame projects.

What happens is that for there to be a regulation it is very difficult, since now it is not possible to determine what is a scam or not, because there is no regulation in this regard, and there are many complaints worldwide to regulate everything related to crypto , for example NFT games, because metaverses and games of metaverses are coming, many hope that there will be a regulation like there was with ICOs, but I think that this is not the solution because when there are regulations it is very difficult to adapt, there is a clear chance with the metaverses, just wait and see how they can handle certain vulnerabilities.

Back in the past on which people do really whine off about regulation about those ICO projects back in the past which it didnt really happen and now they are asking the same thing with the current hype and interest on the market.You wouldnt really be dumb on not to make out some research in regarding with these things and when you do see something which isnt out of your taste
then its not really bad to make out some considerations on making out some research first before dealing whether its regulated or not.

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Quote from: Desmong on January 24, 2022, 04:41:09 PM

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Quote from: carlfebz2 on January 21, 2022, 03:41:36 PM

for each possible advertisement or streams that in relate with marketing but as a viewer/fan then we arent that dumb on not to notice things or could really make out some verification

first before do making some such step because we do have our own self will on doing things and not needed for some sort of those extras.

Man, i had seen drug advertisement on youtube few years ago Grin

Here it, news about this case, but in russian (you need to translate a little bit) - https://vc.ru/flood/25751-youtube-hydra

So it's weird to ask Youtube for moderating of gambling advertisement in video, if it can't properly moderate it's own video prerolls Grin

And i think, that Youtube do not want to moderate it. So, all hopes for the regulations.

Any persons that is waiting for the regulation of influencers content is wasting their time because Youtube are making their own money from content viewers which makes it difficult for such expectation. Individual gambling should take necessary precautions to avoid being scammed or interacting with fame projects.

What happens is that for there to be a regulation it is very difficult, since now it is not possible to determine what is a scam or not, because there is no regulation in this regard, and there are many complaints worldwide to regulate everything related to crypto , for example NFT games, because metaverses and games of metaverses are coming, many hope that there will be a regulation like there was with ICOs, but I think that this is not the solution because when there are regulations it is very difficult to adapt, there is a clear chance with the metaverses, just wait and see how they can handle certain vulnerabilities.

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Quote from: Naficopa on January 24, 2022, 04:47:40 PM

Quote from: Desmong on January 24, 2022, 04:41:09 PM

Any persons that is waiting for the regulation of influencers content is wasting their time because Youtube are making their own money from content viewers which makes it difficult for such expectation. Individual gambling should take necessary precautions to avoid being scammed or interacting with fame projects.

If YouTube doesn't want to regulate it, maybe it should be done by law?!
I'm sure the law regulates advertising in some way (alcohol, cigarettes, guns, gambling), so if it does with influencers, YouTube will have to controll that also.

Agree with you, but there are ways to avoid those rules and regulations. I mean those Vloggers don't promote a particular casino in the video, for example, but use their premises to show how much they win. When a weak soul sees such a clip, they will definitely try to opt for a casino that is shown in the clip, etc.

That can work for new people who are curious about gambling but not those who have already played gambling. They can know what site those Vloggers promote to show a clue about the site that only those who play that will know. Maybe the regulations will benefit Youtube and not the Vloggers as Youtube owns the site so Youtube can do whatever they want. A short, I agree that it needs individual precautions to avoid the videos if they think that can make them in danger.

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Quote from: Naficopa on January 24, 2022, 04:47:40 PM

Quote from: Desmong on January 24, 2022, 04:41:09 PM

Any persons that is waiting for the regulation of influencers content is wasting their time because Youtube are making their own money from content viewers which makes it difficult for such expectation. Individual gambling should take necessary precautions to avoid being scammed or interacting with fame projects.

If YouTube doesn't want to regulate it, maybe it should be done by law?!
I'm sure the law regulates advertising in some way (alcohol, cigarettes, guns, gambling), so if it does with influencers, YouTube will have to controll that also.

Agree with you, but there are ways to avoid those rules and regulations. I mean those Vloggers don't promote a particular casino in the video, for example, but use their premises to show how much they win. When a weak soul sees such a clip, they will definitely try to opt for a casino that is shown in the clip, etc.

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Quote from: pieppiep on January 25, 2022, 03:28:55 AM

Many ads do not tell how they work instead just tempt people to join them and if people join without research, they will make their own mistake. That makes many people lose their money without a chance to make money. People should be cautious when they watch the ads and not do something that can get the worst experience. Maybe Youtube is still trying to monitor all of the ads that can make people ruin themselves, but it still needs time for Youtube to ban the wrong ads.

Look, Google even controls YouTube ads very well. The problem is that often what is advertised, there is nothing wrong.

I can create a YouTube ad, and just say, "I can tell you four ways to make money, easily and effectively. Don't miss the opportunity to increase your income and have what you love most."
And then the service I provide is to refer people to websites or services that allow people to earn money through work or investment.

This is not wrong, nor is it a lie. But it really is a rogue scheme, to take money from people, about things they already know.

Unfortunately this will be difficult to eliminate, and for Google to ban. Then, it may not even be in the ads themselves, but in the videos on the platform, and in that sense it's even more difficult.

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Quote from: CDC AP on January 10, 2022, 08:49:22 AM

Influencers being bluntly paid actors that advertises casinos and encouraging gambling at its finest is one thing, but using elements that could impact the minors and innocents is another level. But then how can we do something that would restrict companies and influencers from using such, because we all know that for as long as its effective and they are gains on it, they will continue to do so. Maybe we could try calling out those influencers and casinos, collectively, to get their attention and also bring public’s eyes onto them and their actions.

There no need for such actions. Despite advertising law regulates such cases without proper efficiency on Youtube, i think in near future (1-3 years) everything will change dramatically. Not only you (and me) were being annoyed by such dishonest promotions. As i heard new regulations on Youtube is near to come

I wonder how the Youtuber will be if Youtube makes their rule strict than before. Maybe they will limit all related things and tolerate if the influencers spread something that can cause people's lives to become unusual. We are annoyed by those promotions but we can not do anything but luckily, we can report the ads if we think they can or have already broken the rules so Youtube can warn them.

Of course, we will never get rid of advertising and marketing. It is all over the world and I still have the impression that there are more and more of ads.
In this case, the point is not that the ads are annoying, but that there is no information at all that this is an ad. People who watch this think this is a real game, which is not true and should be controlled by YouTube.

Many ads do not tell how they work instead just tempt people to join them and if people join without research, they will make their own mistake. That makes many people lose their money without a chance to make money. People should be cautious when they watch the ads and not do something that can get the worst experience. Maybe Youtube is still trying to monitor all of the ads that can make people ruin themselves, but it still needs time for Youtube to ban the wrong ads.

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Quote from: johhnyUA on January 21, 2022, 02:36:43 PM

Quote from: CDC AP on January 10, 2022, 08:49:22 AM

Influencers being bluntly paid actors that advertises casinos and encouraging gambling at its finest is one thing, but using elements that could impact the minors and innocents is another level. But then how can we do something that would restrict companies and influencers from using such, because we all know that for as long as its effective and they are gains on it, they will continue to do so. Maybe we could try calling out those influencers and casinos, collectively, to get their attention and also bring public’s eyes onto them and their actions.

There no need for such actions. Despite advertising law regulates such cases without proper efficiency on Youtube, i think in near future (1-3 years) everything will change dramatically. Not only you (and me) were being annoyed by such dishonest promotions. As i heard new regulations on Youtube is near to come

Probably yes, but not to save the people just for the Google to make more revenue since with the help of influencers the advertisement becomes cheaper but if the same kind of ad need to be promoted by the YouTube itself it will cost them atleast 10x than paid YouTube promotion.

Every advertisement is immoral strategy, we see the cheesey pizza on advertisement but anyone find the pizza in the same way as shown in the advertisement? No right because they use glue components which imitates cheese and every ad falls under this kind of immitation.

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Quote from: Desmong on January 24, 2022, 04:41:09 PM

Any persons that is waiting for the regulation of influencers content is wasting their time because Youtube are making their own money from content viewers which makes it difficult for such expectation. Individual gambling should take necessary precautions to avoid being scammed or interacting with fame projects.

If YouTube doesn't want to regulate it, maybe it should be done by law?!
I'm sure the law regulates advertising in some way (alcohol, cigarettes, guns, gambling), so if it does with influencers, YouTube will have to controll that also.

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Quote from: johhnyUA on January 21, 2022, 04:41:49 PM

Quote from: carlfebz2 on January 21, 2022, 03:41:36 PM

for each possible advertisement or streams that in relate with marketing but as a viewer/fan then we arent that dumb on not to notice things or could really make out some verification

first before do making some such step because we do have our own self will on doing things and not needed for some sort of those extras.

Man, i had seen drug advertisement on youtube few years ago Grin

Here it, news about this case, but in russian (you need to translate a little bit) - https://vc.ru/flood/25751-youtube-hydra

So it's weird to ask Youtube for moderating of gambling advertisement in video, if it can't properly moderate it's own video prerolls Grin

And i think, that Youtube do not want to moderate it. So, all hopes for the regulations.

Any persons that is waiting for the regulation of influencers content is wasting their time because Youtube are making their own money from content viewers which makes it difficult for such expectation. Individual gambling should take necessary precautions to avoid being scammed or interacting with fame projects.

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