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December 30, 2021, 02:14:03 AM
It depends on the gamblers and the people around for that matter.
when indeed someone is trapped in an endless gambling addiction, this is actually quite a risky thing and the role of the people around is very important to regulate the gambler's mental and psychological well-being.
indeed the desire to get out of gambling addiction is a must from the gambler's own desire but on the other hand there must be someone closest to them who supports them so that they get more strength to be free from there
If they can have people closest to them who know if something happens to that person, that person will get the first help to solve the problem. But if that person does not have the closest people, that will be hard as he needs to struggle and figure out how to get out of gambling. It requires awareness always to introspect that he had a gambling addiction to realize that he has already gone too far deeper in gambling and he needs to stop the habit and create a new habit to prevent the addiction.
hero member
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December 29, 2021, 07:37:13 PM
I see nothing immoral there either. Basically, in those videos you can see what might happen when this or that slot was played. I mean it would be immoral if they were editing their videos to make it look like they were winning big amounts while in reality it never happened. But they never do that kind of stuff. They are showing real spins, and that's why I like to watch such videos, but of course I know the probability of that happening to me, so I don't expect winning 20,000x within an hour of playing. It can happen, but most likely it will not.

But these videos DO exaggerate the ease of which big wins can be obtained, because the streamers play in a way that maximizes their chances of getting the jackpot without any consideration of how much money they lose in the process - because it's not their money!

Also, compilations of big wins make it seem much more likely that you can hit a jackpot than it actually is.

Moral or immoral, I don't think that this should be a condoned marketing strategy, at least undisclosed.
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December 29, 2021, 02:53:52 PM

Common sense is the real deal but other people do really make things tolerable on where they do let their greed control or overcome them which would really result into messing up your finances because you do gamble

out and had been fooled on playing for long time and believing that you could make profits just like on what that influencer did or able to attain.When it comes to fairness then i wont really be having no complaints
into those sites which are fair and reputable or known ones.

Marketing is part and even if its on deceptive part then you should know on how to make out decisions according to that.

You need to always keep your guard up, influencer are there to promote sites and how they were doing it is their strategy.

if you failed to work things the right way, expect the outcome will heat negatively, but if you
make it the right way. The chance of enjoying and taking some decent amount are there waiting for you.

It's needed to separate your greed from yourself when playing inside the gambling house, emotionless
gambling practices may give you some room to breathe..

There are many strategies that are very immoral, especially influencers, there is an influencer who is a YouTuber, and that YouTuber has promoted many NFT games that have turned out to be scam, and the truth is that he does not make a correction, he simply promotes the site because the best they pay him, and he does not care about anything, in fact he is a Spanish YouTuber who has a large audience, but how to trust an influencer who is only interested in the money they pay him for making a video promoting scams? I honestly stopped following it because I thought it was serious, but money does totally eliminate the ethics of anyone who has no criteria.

They might be popular today but there would be coming into a point that those subscribers or followers would definitely be doing the opposite or simply unfollow or unsubscribe specially if they do realize that they had just been fooled out and in result on lots of losses just because you do follow on what they are recommending specially with NFT's which would be similar on gambling also where these influencers wouldnt really care
about their viewers condition in terms of finances as long they do get paid and that what counts. Ethics or something connected to it wont really be seen on these circumstances.
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December 29, 2021, 02:03:34 PM

Common sense is the real deal but other people do really make things tolerable on where they do let their greed control or overcome them which would really result into messing up your finances because you do gamble

out and had been fooled on playing for long time and believing that you could make profits just like on what that influencer did or able to attain.When it comes to fairness then i wont really be having no complaints
into those sites which are fair and reputable or known ones.

Marketing is part and even if its on deceptive part then you should know on how to make out decisions according to that.

You need to always keep your guard up, influencer are there to promote sites and how they were doing it is their strategy.

if you failed to work things the right way, expect the outcome will heat negatively, but if you
make it the right way. The chance of enjoying and taking some decent amount are there waiting for you.

It's needed to separate your greed from yourself when playing inside the gambling house, emotionless
gambling practices may give you some room to breathe..

There are many strategies that are very immoral, especially influencers, there is an influencer who is a YouTuber, and that YouTuber has promoted many NFT games that have turned out to be scam, and the truth is that he does not make a correction, he simply promotes the site because the best they pay him, and he does not care about anything, in fact he is a Spanish YouTuber who has a large audience, but how to trust an influencer who is only interested in the money they pay him for making a video promoting scams? I honestly stopped following it because I thought it was serious, but money does totally eliminate the ethics of anyone who has no criteria.
legendary
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December 29, 2021, 08:49:00 AM
It depends on the gamblers and the people around for that matter.
when indeed someone is trapped in an endless gambling addiction, this is actually quite a risky thing and the role of the people around is very important to regulate the gambler's mental and psychological well-being.
indeed the desire to get out of gambling addiction is a must from the gambler's own desire but on the other hand there must be someone closest to them who supports them so that they get more strength to be free from there
Unfortunately, a person cannot completely exclude the influence of other factors, including intrusive advertising completely.  If a player is trying to recover from gambling addiction and just accidentally sees such an advertising video, as they write here with immoral advertising, then an association immediately arises in his head and he immediately remembers these gambling games.  Unfortunately, many do not have enough willpower to get the thoughts of the game out of their heads.  And they start again, fail.  Here in this I see just the immorality of such advertising products.
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December 29, 2021, 07:44:48 AM
They are gamblers most of them which make more money by getting and attracting a lot of new followers in their Youtube channels rather than from gambling actually.Of course most of them can be paid from gambling sites to promote themselves there and in their description to offer referral links with bonus attached to them to play in a specific casino which is their sponsor.This is a very normal marketing strategy if you ask me,I see nothing immoral here.

I see nothing immoral there either. Basically, in those videos you can see what might happen when this or that slot was played. I mean it would be immoral if they were editing their videos to make it look like they were winning big amounts while in reality it never happened. But they never do that kind of stuff. They are showing real spins, and that's why I like to watch such videos, but of course I know the probability of that happening to me, so I don't expect winning 20,000x within an hour of playing. It can happen, but most likely it will not.
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December 29, 2021, 07:03:00 AM
Just be good to yourself and avoid it as much as you can for them to see how you're enduring and avoiding it. And if the other gamblers do what you've done, you've became an example already to them.
But if not and they still have fallen, it's no longer your problem just save yourself from it.
Hopefully, that can make them realize that they can do what we did so they do not have to get in too deep in the gambling industry. They need to prevent themselves from the addiction because once they are addicted to gambling, that will be difficult to get out and will really need help from others. Maybe we can guide those who get too far in gambling, especially if they are our friends who are close to us.
It's difficult to get out if you're already addicted to it. But even it's too difficult to get out, there's still a way for you to do so that you're still not that bad as the others.
You're the one that can control yourself and do avoid things that will make you attract like those marketing that you see online. You do the initiative if you want to do good.
I admitted that it is difficult but that depends on our will to get out of the addiction. My friend in real life almost gets too deep in gambling, but luckily, we can save him and drag him out from the dark and give an understanding to him while we still guide and have beside them. The initiative, an effort, will, and want to change to the better things will be why they stop gambling forever.
It depends on the gamblers and the people around for that matter.
when indeed someone is trapped in an endless gambling addiction, this is actually quite a risky thing and the role of the people around is very important to regulate the gambler's mental and psychological well-being.
indeed the desire to get out of gambling addiction is a must from the gambler's own desire but on the other hand there must be someone closest to them who supports them so that they get more strength to be free from there
For noobs then this is mostly matters about curiosity but for those people who are aware about gambling then this is mostly talks about addiction.

Marketing could really be deceptive and if  you arent really that using your own common sense and do let your greed controls you then you would end up on believing
into this and would try and make out a deposit.
Once you do play and face up reality then you would really be finding out that you had been fooled or simply those things couldnt really
be possible.
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December 29, 2021, 12:34:29 AM
Just be good to yourself and avoid it as much as you can for them to see how you're enduring and avoiding it. And if the other gamblers do what you've done, you've became an example already to them.
But if not and they still have fallen, it's no longer your problem just save yourself from it.
Hopefully, that can make them realize that they can do what we did so they do not have to get in too deep in the gambling industry. They need to prevent themselves from the addiction because once they are addicted to gambling, that will be difficult to get out and will really need help from others. Maybe we can guide those who get too far in gambling, especially if they are our friends who are close to us.
It's difficult to get out if you're already addicted to it. But even it's too difficult to get out, there's still a way for you to do so that you're still not that bad as the others.
You're the one that can control yourself and do avoid things that will make you attract like those marketing that you see online. You do the initiative if you want to do good.
I admitted that it is difficult but that depends on our will to get out of the addiction. My friend in real life almost gets too deep in gambling, but luckily, we can save him and drag him out from the dark and give an understanding to him while we still guide and have beside them. The initiative, an effort, will, and want to change to the better things will be why they stop gambling forever.
It depends on the gamblers and the people around for that matter.
when indeed someone is trapped in an endless gambling addiction, this is actually quite a risky thing and the role of the people around is very important to regulate the gambler's mental and psychological well-being.
indeed the desire to get out of gambling addiction is a must from the gambler's own desire but on the other hand there must be someone closest to them who supports them so that they get more strength to be free from there
hero member
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December 28, 2021, 11:52:03 PM
Just be good to yourself and avoid it as much as you can for them to see how you're enduring and avoiding it. And if the other gamblers do what you've done, you've became an example already to them.
But if not and they still have fallen, it's no longer your problem just save yourself from it.
Hopefully, that can make them realize that they can do what we did so they do not have to get in too deep in the gambling industry. They need to prevent themselves from the addiction because once they are addicted to gambling, that will be difficult to get out and will really need help from others. Maybe we can guide those who get too far in gambling, especially if they are our friends who are close to us.
It's difficult to get out if you're already addicted to it. But even it's too difficult to get out, there's still a way for you to do so that you're still not that bad as the others.
You're the one that can control yourself and do avoid things that will make you attract like those marketing that you see online. You do the initiative if you want to do good.
I admitted that it is difficult but that depends on our will to get out of the addiction. My friend in real life almost gets too deep in gambling, but luckily, we can save him and drag him out from the dark and give an understanding to him while we still guide and have beside them. The initiative, an effort, will, and want to change to the better things will be why they stop gambling forever.
legendary
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December 28, 2021, 04:22:56 AM
They are gamblers most of them which make more money by getting and attracting a lot of new followers in their Youtube channels rather than from gambling actually.Of course most of them can be paid from gambling sites to promote themselves there and in their description to offer referral links with bonus attached to them to play in a specific casino which is their sponsor.This is a very normal marketing strategy if you ask me,I see nothing immoral here.
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December 28, 2021, 04:12:33 AM
Just be good to yourself and avoid it as much as you can for them to see how you're enduring and avoiding it. And if the other gamblers do what you've done, you've became an example already to them.
But if not and they still have fallen, it's no longer your problem just save yourself from it.
Hopefully, that can make them realize that they can do what we did so they do not have to get in too deep in the gambling industry. They need to prevent themselves from the addiction because once they are addicted to gambling, that will be difficult to get out and will really need help from others. Maybe we can guide those who get too far in gambling, especially if they are our friends who are close to us.
It's difficult to get out if you're already addicted to it. But even it's too difficult to get out, there's still a way for you to do so that you're still not that bad as the others.
You're the one that can control yourself and do avoid things that will make you attract like those marketing that you see online. You do the initiative if you want to do good.
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December 28, 2021, 02:14:18 AM
Some of you guys must have watched high stake slot players in their pajamas rolling thousands of dollars in single spin, buying hundred of thousands worth of bonus spins. If you notice closely yo will found the same pattern all over again and again. They start with loosing most of their bank roll (almost 80-90%), and then going all in at last and guess what, bingo!!! they hit hundreds of thousands of dollars. Very few of them write in their stream discerption about rolling with fake money (or money of which they can only cash out like 1%). Almost all of them scream loudly and show us that they are winning it in real, some are very good at faking it, which attracts lots of new gamblers (with false expectations) and they end up loosing it all which ultimately leads to social disharmony.
The argument they provide is as follow, ''we are entertainers/performers''. This need to be stopped. I am creating this thread to discuss such issues and to warn other new comers about the potential loss. If you have found such streamers please post here so that it can be helpful for new players to make realistic decisions.

No matter what the casino or their hire person, it is our responsibility to be careful if we want to play gambling because that is our money. We do not want to lose much money. We need to remember that playing gambling is risky, and we can lose money anytime and only with be careful we can avoid the big loss in gambling.
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December 28, 2021, 12:41:08 AM
Some of you guys must have watched high stake slot players in their pajamas rolling thousands of dollars in single spin, buying hundred of thousands worth of bonus spins. If you notice closely yo will found the same pattern all over again and again. They start with loosing most of their bank roll (almost 80-90%), and then going all in at last and guess what, bingo!!! they hit hundreds of thousands of dollars. Very few of them write in their stream discerption about rolling with fake money (or money of which they can only cash out like 1%). Almost all of them scream loudly and show us that they are winning it in real, some are very good at faking it, which attracts lots of new gamblers (with false expectations) and they end up loosing it all which ultimately leads to social disharmony.
The argument they provide is as follow, ''we are entertainers/performers''. This need to be stopped. I am creating this thread to discuss such issues and to warn other new comers about the potential loss. If you have found such streamers please post here so that it can be helpful for new players to make realistic decisions.

Many deny you because they care about the bad ones. But actually, what you're proposing here is a way to see how caring it is between fellow gamblers. Although gambling houses only provide a place and we bet for the sake of winning money, but realize sharing in gambling it is necessary for once upon a time.
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December 27, 2021, 10:52:28 PM
We can do with everything that we want if it's regarded to the money that we own. We can gamble if want to. But we can also avoid and ignore it as the usual thing that happens.
Those that have been attracted to offers, that's the goal of those ads and if you're not attracted to it, then that's it. And, you just can't stop the others from being attracted to it. We have the situations that make us attracted and not. They're marketing and that's the main purpose of those ads and if it's coming from an influencer that you like or not, you also have the free will to avoid or not.
Yes, we can not stop the others but we can stop ourselves from the attraction. Hopefully, we will not spend too much money on playing gambling because we have another thing that we need to fill. So that depends on how we act with the offers or the promotions that we see in many places. If we can hold and not tempt playing gambling, we will not go to that place instead just use our time to the other things. So we can say that they can create any ads they want and use many ways to attract people but we need always to be careful and take care of our money.
Yes, it should start from us and there's no complaint that shall be put upon when the result manifested on you. You're aware of yourself and with these ads.
The money you'll be spending is yours and much better that it is really yours and not from a loan or borrowed from someone you know.
I think we can give an example to them by having awareness and not putting ourselves into trouble so they will look at how we can handle the promotion with good. We can do that and they can also do that. It is about how you can have an effort to handle your mind when you see something about promotions. We can not stop but we can give them suggestions and decide by ourselves.
Just be good to yourself and avoid it as much as you can for them to see how you're enduring and avoiding it. And if the other gamblers do what you've done, you've became an example already to them.
But if not and they still have fallen, it's no longer your problem just save yourself from it.
Hopefully, that can make them realize that they can do what we did so they do not have to get in too deep in the gambling industry. They need to prevent themselves from the addiction because once they are addicted to gambling, that will be difficult to get out and will really need help from others. Maybe we can guide those who get too far in gambling, especially if they are our friends who are close to us.
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December 27, 2021, 04:49:09 PM
We can do with everything that we want if it's regarded to the money that we own. We can gamble if want to. But we can also avoid and ignore it as the usual thing that happens.
Those that have been attracted to offers, that's the goal of those ads and if you're not attracted to it, then that's it. And, you just can't stop the others from being attracted to it. We have the situations that make us attracted and not. They're marketing and that's the main purpose of those ads and if it's coming from an influencer that you like or not, you also have the free will to avoid or not.
Yes, we can not stop the others but we can stop ourselves from the attraction. Hopefully, we will not spend too much money on playing gambling because we have another thing that we need to fill. So that depends on how we act with the offers or the promotions that we see in many places. If we can hold and not tempt playing gambling, we will not go to that place instead just use our time to the other things. So we can say that they can create any ads they want and use many ways to attract people but we need always to be careful and take care of our money.
Yes, it should start from us and there's no complaint that shall be put upon when the result manifested on you. You're aware of yourself and with these ads.
The money you'll be spending is yours and much better that it is really yours and not from a loan or borrowed from someone you know.
I think we can give an example to them by having awareness and not putting ourselves into trouble so they will look at how we can handle the promotion with good. We can do that and they can also do that. It is about how you can have an effort to handle your mind when you see something about promotions. We can not stop but we can give them suggestions and decide by ourselves.
Just be good to yourself and avoid it as much as you can for them to see how you're enduring and avoiding it. And if the other gamblers do what you've done, you've became an example already to them.
But if not and they still have fallen, it's no longer your problem just save yourself from it.
Speaking of reality then majority of us wouldnt mind on others situation or would tend to be saving up their asses for our ownselves and wont mind into those who doesnt bother on making use of their

common sense.Of course we do have that own self will on making out decisions but there are people who do really decide up without even thinking about those probabilities which do really

end up on a disaster or some headache.When it comes to marketing and on being immoral or something not ethical then its a business and deception would be always a part of it.
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December 27, 2021, 04:41:42 PM
We can do with everything that we want if it's regarded to the money that we own. We can gamble if want to. But we can also avoid and ignore it as the usual thing that happens.
Those that have been attracted to offers, that's the goal of those ads and if you're not attracted to it, then that's it. And, you just can't stop the others from being attracted to it. We have the situations that make us attracted and not. They're marketing and that's the main purpose of those ads and if it's coming from an influencer that you like or not, you also have the free will to avoid or not.
Yes, we can not stop the others but we can stop ourselves from the attraction. Hopefully, we will not spend too much money on playing gambling because we have another thing that we need to fill. So that depends on how we act with the offers or the promotions that we see in many places. If we can hold and not tempt playing gambling, we will not go to that place instead just use our time to the other things. So we can say that they can create any ads they want and use many ways to attract people but we need always to be careful and take care of our money.
Yes, it should start from us and there's no complaint that shall be put upon when the result manifested on you. You're aware of yourself and with these ads.
The money you'll be spending is yours and much better that it is really yours and not from a loan or borrowed from someone you know.
I think we can give an example to them by having awareness and not putting ourselves into trouble so they will look at how we can handle the promotion with good. We can do that and they can also do that. It is about how you can have an effort to handle your mind when you see something about promotions. We can not stop but we can give them suggestions and decide by ourselves.
Just be good to yourself and avoid it as much as you can for them to see how you're enduring and avoiding it. And if the other gamblers do what you've done, you've became an example already to them.
But if not and they still have fallen, it's no longer your problem just save yourself from it.
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December 27, 2021, 04:24:19 PM
Some of you guys must have watched high stake slot players in their pajamas rolling thousands of dollars in single spin, buying hundred of thousands worth of bonus spins. If you notice closely yo will found the same pattern all over again and again. They start with loosing most of their bank roll (almost 80-90%), and then going all in at last and guess what, bingo!!! they hit hundreds of thousands of dollars. Very few of them write in their stream discerption about rolling with fake money (or money of which they can only cash out like 1%). Almost all of them scream loudly and show us that they are winning it in real, some are very good at faking it, which attracts lots of new gamblers (with false expectations) and they end up loosing it all which ultimately leads to social disharmony.
The argument they provide is as follow, ''we are entertainers/performers''. This need to be stopped. I am creating this thread to discuss such issues and to warn other new comers about the potential loss. If you have found such streamers please post here so that it can be helpful for new players to make realistic decisions.

You don't seem to understand what is actually immoral about this type of behavior.  It sounds like you're suggesting that these are faked streams from users who have some sort of nefarious intent to trick users.  That isn't really what's happening at all.  The immoral part of these types of streams is that the streamer isn't using their own money.  They are given money in their account for free to gamble with.  Viewers think the streamer would risk their own money, when in reality they never would.  The wins you see are real though.  The only thing that is fake is that they have nothing on the line if they lose.

I don't know how you get the Idea that I don't understand the perspective of morality which you mentioned. In fact that is the very spirit of my argument ( They are not using their own money and by performance giving us impression).
Since you are a learned and wise member perhaps I did not understand your perspective, if that is case please elaborate.
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December 27, 2021, 03:35:16 PM
Some of you guys must have watched high stake slot players in their pajamas rolling thousands of dollars in single spin, buying hundred of thousands worth of bonus spins. If you notice closely yo will found the same pattern all over again and again. They start with loosing most of their bank roll (almost 80-90%), and then going all in at last and guess what, bingo!!! they hit hundreds of thousands of dollars. Very few of them write in their stream discerption about rolling with fake money (or money of which they can only cash out like 1%). Almost all of them scream loudly and show us that they are winning it in real, some are very good at faking it, which attracts lots of new gamblers (with false expectations) and they end up loosing it all which ultimately leads to social disharmony.
The argument they provide is as follow, ''we are entertainers/performers''. This need to be stopped. I am creating this thread to discuss such issues and to warn other new comers about the potential loss. If you have found such streamers please post here so that it can be helpful for new players to make realistic decisions.

You don't seem to understand what is actually immoral about this type of behavior.  It sounds like you're suggesting that these are faked streams from users who have some sort of nefarious intent to trick users.  That isn't really what's happening at all.  The immoral part of these types of streams is that the streamer isn't using their own money.  They are given money in their account for free to gamble with.  Viewers think the streamer would risk their own money, when in reality they never would.  The wins you see are real though.  The only thing that is fake is that they have nothing on the line if they lose.
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December 27, 2021, 03:09:31 PM
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whatever marketing trick the gambling platform uses doesn't matter because it's not illegal, but what we need to pay attention to is that it's just a marketing trick, there are no real wins, they are paid by the owner of the gambling site they endorse. it was once revealed that someone was given a virtual balance by a gambling site (their marketing team) and was assigned to make a live video of how he made big and fast money on that gambling site.
They really need to come up with an effective strategy in order to attract the gamblers to play on their site. In some way, its true that you can win big if you gamble but its not going to be easy and will only happen if we're lucky. So if you can be easily convince by these streamers then you might really end up to gamble on that particular site without even thinking of the possible consequences.
That's right, only luck makes us win especially when playing slots and even worse, that streamers seem to know that today when they are live they will win big. Their scenario looks very original, newbies who are curious about what they see will definitely be intrigued and end up playing on the gambling site without thinking anything else, all they think about is the same winning result as the streamers.
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December 27, 2021, 03:04:32 PM
F*ckin hell, this debate is still going Cheesy
Beautiful girls advertising/endorsing beauty products is also immoral since they are beautiful since birth and not because of the products.
Nothing 100% honest in the advertisement, and everyone knows streamer is just an entertainer, not a pro gambler.
There is a line in which we can or cannot act since it's in the grey area. Altcoin shill, NFT shill, Play2Earn shill, sponsored slot streamer, even Bitcoin shill is in the same category. I don't encourage the practice, but it's just how the world works.
You are really on point. I don't think there is anything bad when it comes to shilling for a few dollars. Maybe we don't know that the signature campaigns we are in and the avatar is part of shilling and influencing projects and site to new people that doesn't know about it. Every we are doing is advertisement and we shouldn't ignore the fact that influencers are doing the same thing here.
Exactly, now you know that you are shilling with your signature even you know that you have been tagged on that campaign and even you know that there's an unsolved issue on that casino but yet, you are still wearing the signature just because of the dollar. In the same situation as that, there's no really good and honest when it comes to this marketing strategy but if we expand our knowledge and skills on how to determine right and wrong, there could be a chance that you will be safe from those threats because you already know the fact and the consequences.
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