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January 17, 2022, 05:25:46 PM

I thought they used to place a warning write up telling people that what they are saying is just for the purpose of advertising and that nobody should take them serious because it's not a financial advise. The warning is obvious and is very clear but many persons still don't understand what that means. Although they are showing us that so that will might not end up sueing them. Don't you think they need our money to grow rich?

The point is that there are no warnings anywhere that the game we watch on video or stream is for fake money.
Of course, are shown in public the videos in which someone wins. A person who has no gambling experience when watching something like this thinks winning is very easy. If he can be persuaded to make a deposit, he usually loses everything. That's why it's so dangerous.
Most common scenario is that these influencers does have that unlimited fund that they do have into their gambling accounts which means that betting would be sky is the limit
and when  they do hit up big multipliers then of course the winning would really be big on which it could really poke up someones interest on playing too
and this is how marketing works.

Viewers wouldnt really mind on how much that player had lost when they do play up and since theyre been funded then betting behavior would be totally different.

Fairness can be seen though and you could spot out for experienced players but for noobs then everything would be plain and simple.
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January 17, 2022, 05:06:52 PM

I thought they used to place a warning write up telling people that what they are saying is just for the purpose of advertising and that nobody should take them serious because it's not a financial advise. The warning is obvious and is very clear but many persons still don't understand what that means. Although they are showing us that so that will might not end up sueing them. Don't you think they need our money to grow rich?

The point is that there are no warnings anywhere that the game we watch on video or stream is for fake money.
Of course, are shown in public the videos in which someone wins. A person who has no gambling experience when watching something like this thinks winning is very easy. If he can be persuaded to make a deposit, he usually loses everything. That's why it's so dangerous.
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January 17, 2022, 04:35:18 PM
Some of you guys must have watched high stake slot players in their pajamas rolling thousands of dollars in single spin, buying hundred of thousands worth of bonus spins. If you notice closely yo will found the same pattern all over again and again. They start with loosing most of their bank roll (almost 80-90%), and then going all in at last and guess what, bingo!!! they hit hundreds of thousands of dollars. Very few of them write in their stream discerption about rolling with fake money (or money of which they can only cash out like 1%). Almost all of them scream loudly and show us that they are winning it in real, some are very good at faking it, which attracts lots of new gamblers (with false expectations) and they end up loosing it all which ultimately leads to social disharmony.
The argument they provide is as follow, ''we are entertainers/performers''. This need to be stopped. I am creating this thread to discuss such issues and to warn other new comers about the potential loss. If you have found such streamers please post here so that it can be helpful for new players to make realistic decisions.


The annoying part about all this is that these streamers try to hide their activities. They would probably still get a beneficial number of new signups to whatever service they want to advertise if they were totally upfront and disclosed what they were doing. People love following these so-called influencers and streamers, they'll often overlook explicit and blatant warnings if they get to copy whatever their fan favorite is doing at the moment. It would also help these people and the casinos they are promoting because they'd be able to show that they clearly warn new users of any risks involved. There are a lot of silly and wasteful people out there who are bad with money, somebody is going to "help them" spend it unfortunately.
I thought they used to place a warning write up telling people that what they are saying is just for the purpose of advertising and that nobody should take them serious because it's not a financial advise. The warning is obvious and is very clear but many persons still don't understand what that means. Although they are showing us that so that will might not end up sueing them. Don't you think they need our money to grow rich?
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January 17, 2022, 04:09:45 PM
Some of you guys must have watched high stake slot players in their pajamas rolling thousands of dollars in single spin, buying hundred of thousands worth of bonus spins. If you notice closely yo will found the same pattern all over again and again. They start with loosing most of their bank roll (almost 80-90%), and then going all in at last and guess what, bingo!!! they hit hundreds of thousands of dollars. Very few of them write in their stream discerption about rolling with fake money (or money of which they can only cash out like 1%). Almost all of them scream loudly and show us that they are winning it in real, some are very good at faking it, which attracts lots of new gamblers (with false expectations) and they end up loosing it all which ultimately leads to social disharmony.
The argument they provide is as follow, ''we are entertainers/performers''. This need to be stopped. I am creating this thread to discuss such issues and to warn other new comers about the potential loss. If you have found such streamers please post here so that it can be helpful for new players to make realistic decisions.


The annoying part about all this is that these streamers try to hide their activities. They would probably still get a beneficial number of new signups to whatever service they want to advertise if they were totally upfront and disclosed what they were doing. People love following these so-called influencers and streamers, they'll often overlook explicit and blatant warnings if they get to copy whatever their fan favorite is doing at the moment. It would also help these people and the casinos they are promoting because they'd be able to show that they clearly warn new users of any risks involved. There are a lot of silly and wasteful people out there who are bad with money, somebody is going to "help them" spend it unfortunately.
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January 17, 2022, 03:12:51 PM
We already know how they work, so it will not surprise us how they will still use the same method with some modification to convince potential customers.
Besides that, those influencers did their jobs using their channel, but some do not remind their audience to be careful when playing gambling.
I am afraid that we can not stop those influencers, even if we report what they did to the providers, because they may not block their accounts. After all, those influencers also profit the provider.
So it is our duty always to filter what we see from the influencer and not just follow what they say before we research furthermore.

When it comes in marketing we can’t stop them especially if they were able to attract customers in what they do. As long as it’s not against the law they can do what is best for their marketing. It’s our choice what we can do when we gamble. We must learn to analyze and weight the possibilities that the casino can have a problem. And when we start to gamble we need to assure ourselves that we know what we are doing no matter how amaze we are when they do ads.
Marketing is marketing whether you do it in your own way or not. The problem is the advertising in the most cruel manner. Although I don't have to blame anyone here because we'll responsible for our own decisions and what so ever goes wrong is our own fault. I have lost huge amount of dollars at the wrong project just because of influence from high profile men and lack of my ability to do thorough research.
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January 13, 2022, 07:15:57 AM
Some of you guys must have watched high stake slot players in their pajamas rolling thousands of dollars in single spin, buying hundred of thousands worth of bonus spins. If you notice closely yo will found the same pattern all over again and again. They start with loosing most of their bank roll (almost 80-90%), and then going all in at last and guess what, bingo!!! they hit hundreds of thousands of dollars. Very few of them write in their stream discerption about rolling with fake money (or money of which they can only cash out like 1%). Almost all of them scream loudly and show us that they are winning it in real, some are very good at faking it, which attracts lots of new gamblers (with false expectations) and they end up loosing it all which ultimately leads to social disharmony.
The argument they provide is as follow, ''we are entertainers/performers''. This need to be stopped. I am creating this thread to discuss such issues and to warn other new comers about the potential loss. If you have found such streamers please post here so that it can be helpful for new players to make realistic decisions.


I don't think this should be stopped. I think everyone has to think on their own about what they do and what are the consequences of their steps. Well, if you see a monkey jumping in front of the cam creating an illusion of winning hot money in the casino, you should be aware that in the casino you can either lose it. You will cool down the milk after having burnt your tongue, isn't it? If someone else burns their tongue, you will believe but think that you will not have your tongue burnt even if you drink a boiled milk:) The same is with those jumping monkeys. If you are an 18+ aged person, you should think about what you do and about all the consequences of your behavior. If not, well, you still need your mom to make your bed:)



Immoral or not, it depends on how we see it. There are laws prohibiting unfair or deceptive practices in advertisement, but they are different in different countries. And is showing your real wins on slots unfair or deceptive? I don't think so. As with any other advertisement, it is we who can make it harmful for us, not the ad itself. Ads are annoying sometimes, and in other times they make us buy unnecessary things, but the world would be less funny without them. And these big wins on slots, in particular, some of them are really fun to watch. Smiley
That simply talks about money and even it was immoral, they let it happen as it was paid already. It is sometimes to think that was too unfair, yes, it was but have less possibility that we can change the nature of this place. Then rather we saying it was too unfair, too immoral, maybe it was best to ignore them than be a big deal to it.

It is actually annoying when we heard such complaints but can't just put blame on them(ads) alone, we do it for ourselves then for listening and choosing them.

It is always our fault and not anyone's else that we are so greedy that we are ready to believe that we are necessarily going to win like those guys in the vids. We don't want to think about how much money they were risking, how many times they were losing before that big win etc., we just want to win like them right away. It is no wonder we are disappointed and broke, more often than not, following those expectations.

Agree with you. If you see a person crossing the road in the wrong place and we do the same and hit the car, should we blame that person? If you try to stop it, this will never stop. If you let it go with no attention at all, this will stop on its own.

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January 13, 2022, 06:45:48 AM
Immoral or not, it depends on how we see it. There are laws prohibiting unfair or deceptive practices in advertisement, but they are different in different countries. And is showing your real wins on slots unfair or deceptive? I don't think so. As with any other advertisement, it is we who can make it harmful for us, not the ad itself. Ads are annoying sometimes, and in other times they make us buy unnecessary things, but the world would be less funny without them. And these big wins on slots, in particular, some of them are really fun to watch. Smiley
That simply talks about money and even it was immoral, they let it happen as it was paid already. It is sometimes to think that was too unfair, yes, it was but have less possibility that we can change the nature of this place. Then rather we saying it was too unfair, too immoral, maybe it was best to ignore them than be a big deal to it.

It is actually annoying when we heard such complaints but can't just put blame on them(ads) alone, we do it for ourselves then for listening and choosing them.

It is always our fault and not anyone's else that we are so greedy that we are ready to believe that we are necessarily going to win like those guys in the vids. We don't want to think about how much money they were risking, how many times they were losing before that big win etc., we just want to win like them right away. It is no wonder we are disappointed and broke, more often than not, following those expectations.
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January 11, 2022, 12:01:34 AM
Influencers being bluntly paid actors that advertises casinos and encouraging gambling at its finest is one thing, but using elements that could impact the minors and innocents is another level. But then how can we do something that would restrict companies and influencers from using such, because we all know that for as long as its effective and they are gains on it, they will continue to do so. Maybe we could try calling out those influencers and casinos, collectively, to get their attention and also bring public’s eyes onto them and their actions.

I doubt if they even noticed anyone trying to explain it to them. After all, they themselves invented this method of marketing. I think marketing teams are opening champagne celebrating the success of their idea. As long as it is not regulated by law, they will never give up on it.

Give up? They can never give up because they are making consistent project from it and I know in the next five to ten years coming, they will be crazy influencers who will be ready to do anything for money, even to tell us that res is white even when it's obvious. This is why the internet is their we enquires about anything we are looking for.
We already know how they work, so it will not surprise us how they will still use the same method with some modification to convince potential customers.
Besides that, those influencers did their jobs using their channel, but some do not remind their audience to be careful when playing gambling.
I am afraid that we can not stop those influencers, even if we report what they did to the providers, because they may not block their accounts. After all, those influencers also profit the provider.
So it is our duty always to filter what we see from the influencer and not just follow what they say before we research furthermore.
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January 10, 2022, 08:24:44 PM
Influencers being bluntly paid actors that advertises casinos and encouraging gambling at its finest is one thing, but using elements that could impact the minors and innocents is another level. But then how can we do something that would restrict companies and influencers from using such, because we all know that for as long as its effective and they are gains on it, they will continue to do so. Maybe we could try calling out those influencers and casinos, collectively, to get their attention and also bring public’s eyes onto them and their actions.

I doubt if they even noticed anyone trying to explain it to them. After all, they themselves invented this method of marketing. I think marketing teams are opening champagne celebrating the success of their idea. As long as it is not regulated by law, they will never give up on it.

Give up? They can never give up because they are making consistent project from it and I know in the next five to ten years coming, they will be crazy influencers who will be ready to do anything for money, even to tell us that res is white even when it's obvious. This is why the internet is their we enquires about anything we are looking for.
Everything could be seen on net thats why we should really sharpen out out common sense and awareness around on what happening in our surrounding or into those things that we are watching.We arent
that dumb on not to notice if something isnt that right which by your own self will then you could really decide on whether if its good to deal with it or simply skip out.
Influencers doesnt really mind off if its ethical or not as long they would get paid then that what matter most and wont minding about their audience situation.
Thats true. The influencers are after money, so as long as they can gain from what they advertise (regardless if its true or not) then they are more willing to do it. Thats why its up to us whether to believe these strategies to convince the viewers. Its not only for casino, the same goes for products we see on tv, we dont know if its effective or legit but because of the advertisement and popular personality who advertise it, some people are patronizing and one reason is they idolize the advertiser and thinking they really use it.
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January 10, 2022, 04:53:40 PM
Influencers being bluntly paid actors that advertises casinos and encouraging gambling at its finest is one thing, but using elements that could impact the minors and innocents is another level. But then how can we do something that would restrict companies and influencers from using such, because we all know that for as long as its effective and they are gains on it, they will continue to do so. Maybe we could try calling out those influencers and casinos, collectively, to get their attention and also bring public’s eyes onto them and their actions.

I doubt if they even noticed anyone trying to explain it to them. After all, they themselves invented this method of marketing. I think marketing teams are opening champagne celebrating the success of their idea. As long as it is not regulated by law, they will never give up on it.

Give up? They can never give up because they are making consistent project from it and I know in the next five to ten years coming, they will be crazy influencers who will be ready to do anything for money, even to tell us that res is white even when it's obvious. This is why the internet is their we enquires about anything we are looking for.
Everything could be seen on net thats why we should really sharpen out out common sense and awareness around on what happening in our surrounding or into those things that we are watching.We arent
that dumb on not to notice if something isnt that right which by your own self will then you could really decide on whether if its good to deal with it or simply skip out.
Influencers doesnt really mind off if its ethical or not as long they would get paid then that what matter most and wont minding about their audience situation.
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January 10, 2022, 03:27:53 PM
Influencers being bluntly paid actors that advertises casinos and encouraging gambling at its finest is one thing, but using elements that could impact the minors and innocents is another level. But then how can we do something that would restrict companies and influencers from using such, because we all know that for as long as its effective and they are gains on it, they will continue to do so. Maybe we could try calling out those influencers and casinos, collectively, to get their attention and also bring public’s eyes onto them and their actions.

I doubt if they even noticed anyone trying to explain it to them. After all, they themselves invented this method of marketing. I think marketing teams are opening champagne celebrating the success of their idea. As long as it is not regulated by law, they will never give up on it.

Give up? They can never give up because they are making consistent project from it and I know in the next five to ten years coming, they will be crazy influencers who will be ready to do anything for money, even to tell us that res is white even when it's obvious. This is why the internet is their we enquires about anything we are looking for.
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January 10, 2022, 02:05:53 PM
Yes, it's about exactly such videos and additionaly streams. But this thread is about the fact that it is unethical that a lot of people, and above all young users, do not know that this game is fake and the money is not real. Inexperienced young players think that they can easily win big money, and when they try to practice, they lose it.
This is understandable because most of them are still a young group and even tend to children who have not been able to think broadly so that they are so innocent and believe that this is real.
but on the other hand it's actually not only them but there are some people who already know that it is something fake but with their love they don't want to admit and still deny that this is fake.

If an adult refuses to believe that this is a fake, it means that he should not be in control of his finances at all, because it is certain that he will lose everything very quickly. But there isn't much that can be done about this. The worst thing is that these streams most often reach very young people, and even children who can easily believe that the money they play on video is real.
isn't that very reasonable? because indeed the majority of youths usually still don't think openly and only most of them still use their emotions and passions compared to logic so when they see this they indirectly want to do the same thing because they think that this is true even if seen logically. impossible because there was no way one could continue to be lucky. but because they are still using their emotions and lust so they don't think about it
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January 10, 2022, 11:04:55 AM
Influencers being bluntly paid actors that advertises casinos and encouraging gambling at its finest is one thing, but using elements that could impact the minors and innocents is another level. But then how can we do something that would restrict companies and influencers from using such, because we all know that for as long as its effective and they are gains on it, they will continue to do so. Maybe we could try calling out those influencers and casinos, collectively, to get their attention and also bring public’s eyes onto them and their actions.

I doubt if they even noticed anyone trying to explain it to them. After all, they themselves invented this method of marketing. I think marketing teams are opening champagne celebrating the success of their idea. As long as it is not regulated by law, they will never give up on it.
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January 10, 2022, 10:19:17 AM
~ I am sure many more types of marketing strategies that will be more immoral from what we have already seen.

Immoral or not, it depends on how we see it. There are laws prohibiting unfair or deceptive practices in advertisement, but they are different in different countries. And is showing your real wins on slots unfair or deceptive? I don't think so. As with any other advertisement, it is we who can make it harmful for us, not the ad itself. Ads are annoying sometimes, and in other times they make us buy unnecessary things, but the world would be less funny without them. And these big wins on slots, in particular, some of them are really fun to watch. Smiley
That's true, sometimes I feel motivated when I see those who play slots and win big, regardless of whether it's just a marketing trick. I still remember the saying that whatever is seen is not necessarily the reality, Now it's just a matter of how we react to this, whether we want to believe it or not, whether we want to be trapped or not.
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January 10, 2022, 08:49:22 AM
Influencers being bluntly paid actors that advertises casinos and encouraging gambling at its finest is one thing, but using elements that could impact the minors and innocents is another level. But then how can we do something that would restrict companies and influencers from using such, because we all know that for as long as its effective and they are gains on it, they will continue to do so. Maybe we could try calling out those influencers and casinos, collectively, to get their attention and also bring public’s eyes onto them and their actions.
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January 10, 2022, 08:36:36 AM
~ I am sure many more types of marketing strategies that will be more immoral from what we have already seen.

Immoral or not, it depends on how we see it. There are laws prohibiting unfair or deceptive practices in advertisement, but they are different in different countries. And is showing your real wins on slots unfair or deceptive? I don't think so. As with any other advertisement, it is we who can make it harmful for us, not the ad itself. Ads are annoying sometimes, and in other times they make us buy unnecessary things, but the world would be less funny without them. And these big wins on slots, in particular, some of them are really fun to watch. Smiley
That simply talks about money and even it was immoral, they let it happen as it was paid already. It is sometimes to think that was too unfair, yes, it was but have less possibility that we can change the nature of this place. Then rather we saying it was too unfair, too immoral, maybe it was best to ignore them than be a big deal to it.

It is actually annoying when we heard such complaints but can't just put blame on them(ads) alone, we do it for ourselves then for listening and choosing them.
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January 10, 2022, 07:07:05 AM
~ I am sure many more types of marketing strategies that will be more immoral from what we have already seen.

Immoral or not, it depends on how we see it. There are laws prohibiting unfair or deceptive practices in advertisement, but they are different in different countries. And is showing your real wins on slots unfair or deceptive? I don't think so. As with any other advertisement, it is we who can make it harmful for us, not the ad itself. Ads are annoying sometimes, and in other times they make us buy unnecessary things, but the world would be less funny without them. And these big wins on slots, in particular, some of them are really fun to watch. Smiley
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January 10, 2022, 05:37:57 AM
I agree, a lot of these so-called influencers do this kind of fake marketing and it should be punished by law, in my opinion. It would seem to me that these kind of people have learned a trick or two from the "day-trading" influencers who "teach" people how to do technical analysis and how to make daily profits by selling them a course they have to pay a fee for.

We really need laws so people won't do this crap.
It's called market and I don't think the law has anything to do with it unless if it's done against the law. Moreover nobody is force to click or follow what these influencers are doing and most time you are being warned to take your own decision when it's comes to these kind of marketing.
You will see a lots of them on youtube with different tricks of attracting people to click and join what they are influencing.
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January 09, 2022, 06:08:17 PM
The difference is, when you watch a casino advertisement, you know it is a casino promotional video. As for streamers, they pretend to be real players who play for real money and win real money. However, the truth is quite different, and the people who watch it don't know it and think that winning at the casino is so easy. When they try themselves, the reality turns out to be very brutal in most cases.
Your common sense would tell you that it is indeed a promotional video but you do get yourself blinded whenever that streamer or influencer do make out some big profits without even realizing that the
money that they are using and won is given back into the casino unless if there is some sort of agreement on having some % of those wins to influencers but its not really that common.

If you do really make yourself not to be aware and just directly been amazed or fascinated on how these guys making profits on making those big bets then you would likely
ending up on depositing.

their mistake? No, its yours because you havent forced up to make out deposit and when you do lost then theres no one would be blamed of.

Are you saying that it is the people who can be manipulated who are to blame for themselves because they are mentally weak?

If it were only adults and fully aware of the dangers of gambling, I could agree with you.

Unfortunately, this mostly affects very young people, and even children, who have no idea what gambling can lead to.
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January 09, 2022, 05:55:57 PM
I don't think those fake videos are any different than the fake advertisements you see on TV or the internet when casinos and bet shops are being advertised. The image they are trying to convey is one of success, wealth, and class. Businessmen in suits drinking martinis and champagne as they are surrounded with beautiful women who cheer with them in their victories. When I enter a betting shop in my region, all I see are dark rooms filled with cigarette smoke, middle aged men cursing and swearing because they were so close to a win.


The difference is, when you watch a casino advertisement, you know it is a casino promotional video. As for streamers, they pretend to be real players who play for real money and win real money. However, the truth is quite different, and the people who watch it don't know it and think that winning at the casino is so easy. When they try themselves, the reality turns out to be very brutal in most cases.
Your common sense would tell you that it is indeed a promotional video but you do get yourself blinded whenever that streamer or influencer do make out some big profits without even realizing that the
money that they are using and won is given back into the casino unless if there is some sort of agreement on having some % of those wins to influencers but its not really that common.

If you do really make yourself not to be aware and just directly been amazed or fascinated on how these guys making profits on making those big bets then you would likely
ending up on depositing.

their mistake? No, its yours because you havent forced up to make out deposit and when you do lost then theres no one would be blamed of.
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