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Quote from: CDC AP on January 03, 2022, 12:05:37 PM

They're obviously been paid by the casino to play and promote it they do get overhyped when they win even tho the money is not theirs, do i think this is immoral and kinda misleading ? Maybe. Does this behaviour needs to be stopped ? No.I believe some people maybe find this entertaining (myself included)

At the end of the day if you're a compulsive gambler or someone who has a real problem with gambling i suggest you just stay away from those streams.

I agree. It is just a part of their marketing strategy or tricks. And because they are paid streamer/promoter they need to convince and get the attention of the viewers. It tricks the audiences into thinking there chances of winning big than they are.And it is all up to you if you're going to gamble or not.

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Very immoral market strategy? No,I see nothing immoral here.In these Video You can see how to played and how to winning big amount. Yeah i know most of them they are paid reviewer and promote and use their reffer link.Gambling is our much responsibility. I think It's Marketing strategy is normal. Coz they are showing real things.

Of course, for people who know what gambling is and how it works, these videos aren't really needed. Personally, I haven't seen any of them, because I'm not even interested in it. The problem is that newbies, and above all very young people, think that everything is happening for real and that winning a large amount is so easy. This leads them to trying for themselves and most often they are losing all their money very quickly.

But the main problem here is that OP is pointing only to specific gambling site when the truth is almost every gambling site in crypto has this same strategy in luring players, or some are more worst while of course there are also that cleans.
what I am pointing here is that if he really wanted to create noise in this case then best to mention all the gambling site that has Immoral marketing strategy and not only the one above.

If the laws of the country in whose jurisdiction this or that gambling site is not prohibited to advertise services in some immoral way, then of course this is used by specific casinos. Moreover, I think that they can do advertising in the form of such a "borderline", when its immorality may well be challenged by experienced lawyers in case someone decides to sue the advertising manufacturer or the casino itself.
This is especially true, of course, in cases where, because of such advertisements, young people lose a lot or even become gambling addicts.

It will be more cases that we do not know about immoral marketing strategies. I think that is happening not just in the gambling industry but also in other businesses. The business owner wants to attract many more people to come to their business and spend their money so that they can make a big profit from them. It is not easy to stop people from watching that advertisement because those things can appear in many places and their target is people who do not have control over themselves. So it is about how we can prevent ourselves from what we think is immoral so we do not get in their trap. I am sure many more types of marketing strategies that will be more immoral from what we have already seen.

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Very immoral market strategy? No,I see nothing immoral here.In these Video You can see how to played and how to winning big amount. Yeah i know most of them they are paid reviewer and promote and use their reffer link.Gambling is our much responsibility. I think It's Marketing strategy is normal. Coz they are showing real things.

Of course, for people who know what gambling is and how it works, these videos aren't really needed. Personally, I haven't seen any of them, because I'm not even interested in it. The problem is that newbies, and above all very young people, think that everything is happening for real and that winning a large amount is so easy. This leads them to trying for themselves and most often they are losing all their money very quickly.

But the main problem here is that OP is pointing only to specific gambling site when the truth is almost every gambling site in crypto has this same strategy in luring players, or some are more worst while of course there are also that cleans.
what I am pointing here is that if he really wanted to create noise in this case then best to mention all the gambling site that has Immoral marketing strategy and not only the one above.

If the laws of the country in whose jurisdiction this or that gambling site is not prohibited to advertise services in some immoral way, then of course this is used by specific casinos. Moreover, I think that they can do advertising in the form of such a "borderline", when its immorality may well be challenged by experienced lawyers in case someone decides to sue the advertising manufacturer or the casino itself.
This is especially true, of course, in cases where, because of such advertisements, young people lose a lot or even become gambling addicts.

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Quote from: Mamun74 on January 03, 2022, 02:00:15 AM

Very immoral market strategy? No,I see nothing immoral here.In these Video You can see how to played and how to winning big amount. Yeah i know most of them they are paid reviewer and promote and use their reffer link.Gambling is our much responsibility. I think It's Marketing strategy is normal. Coz they are showing real things.

Of course, for people who know what gambling is and how it works, these videos aren't really needed. Personally, I haven't seen any of them, because I'm not even interested in it. The problem is that newbies, and above all very young people, think that everything is happening for real and that winning a large amount is so easy. This leads them to trying for themselves and most often they are losing all their money very quickly.

But the main problem here is that OP is pointing only to specific gambling site when the truth is almost every gambling site in crypto has this same strategy in luring players, or some are more worst while of course there are also that cleans.
what I am pointing here is that if he really wanted to create noise in this case then best to mention all the gambling site that has Immoral marketing strategy and not only the one above.

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Quote from: CDC AP on January 03, 2022, 12:05:37 PM

They're obviously been paid by the casino to play and promote it they do get overhyped when they win even tho the money is not theirs, do i think this is immoral and kinda misleading ? Maybe. Does this behaviour needs to be stopped ? No.I believe some people maybe find this entertaining (myself included)

At the end of the day if you're a compulsive gambler or someone who has a real problem with gambling i suggest you just stay away from those streams.

For some casinos, that can be a way to get more visitors to their site because the audience will see how much money that promoter can win. It will make them feel that they can do that as the promoter did. The casino will not think about immoral and not mislead the information because they do what they want. It is like a strategy from the casino to get attention from the audience, especially if they can hire a promoter who can play good acting in front of their audience.

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Common sense is the real deal but other people do really make things tolerable on where they do let their greed control or overcome them which would really result into messing up your finances because you do gamble

out and had been fooled on playing for long time and believing that you could make profits just like on what that influencer did or able to attain.When it comes to fairness then i wont really be having no complaints
into those sites which are fair and reputable or known ones.

Marketing is part and even if its on deceptive part then you should know on how to make out decisions according to that.

You need to always keep your guard up, influencer are there to promote sites and how they were doing it is their strategy.

if you failed to work things the right way, expect the outcome will heat negatively, but if you
make it the right way. The chance of enjoying and taking some decent amount are there waiting for you.

It's needed to separate your greed from yourself when playing inside the gambling house, emotionless
gambling practices may give you some room to breathe..

There are many strategies that are very immoral, especially influencers, there is an influencer who is a YouTuber, and that YouTuber has promoted many NFT games that have turned out to be scam, and the truth is that he does not make a correction, he simply promotes the site because the best they pay him, and he does not care about anything, in fact he is a Spanish YouTuber who has a large audience, but how to trust an influencer who is only interested in the money they pay him for making a video promoting scams? I honestly stopped following it because I thought it was serious, but money does totally eliminate the ethics of anyone who has no criteria.

They might be popular today but there would be coming into a point that those subscribers or followers would definitely be doing the opposite or simply unfollow or unsubscribe specially if they do realize that they had just been fooled out and in result on lots of losses just because you do follow on what they are recommending specially with NFT's which would be similar on gambling also where these influencers wouldnt really care
about their viewers condition in terms of finances as long they do get paid and that what counts. Ethics or something connected to it wont really be seen on these circumstances.

You are right, currently some people are not aware of what it means to have professional ethics, and it is unfortunate because I know that on YouTube and on many other platforms it is given that to get followers and loyal subscribers it is a matter of falling in love and if a disappointment occurs it is simply they will go, and it is not possible that so much effort will change it for a few dollars that it can help any YouTuber at any given time and not always, those who still maintain their credibility will always have their subscribers with the option to get more, but if you do not take care to your community will simply die and that is unfortunate.

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I see nothing immoral there either. Basically, in those videos you can see what might happen when this or that slot was played. I mean it would be immoral if they were editing their videos to make it look like they were winning big amounts while in reality it never happened. But they never do that kind of stuff. They are showing real spins, and that's why I like to watch such videos, but of course I know the probability of that happening to me, so I don't expect winning 20,000x within an hour of playing. It can happen, but most likely it will not.

But these videos DO exaggerate the ease of which big wins can be obtained, because the streamers play in a way that maximizes their chances of getting the jackpot without any consideration of how much money they lose in the process - because it's not their money!

I'm not completely sure about it. I mean, it's a fact that streamers are paid by gambling sites, but the mechanism is unknown to me. For instance, apart from their salary, they can be given $10k(or $100k, depending on the level of the streamer) to play slots on a platform, and whatever they win with that goes to their pocket, something like freebets, only without wagering requirement. In that case they would act more naturally when winning big or losing a lot. I think that's how it's done, but I'm not sure about it.

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They're obviously been paid by the casino to play and promote it they do get overhyped when they win even tho the money is not theirs, do i think this is immoral and kinda misleading ? Maybe. Does this behaviour needs to be stopped ? No.I believe some people maybe find this entertaining (myself included)

At the end of the day if you're a compulsive gambler or someone who has a real problem with gambling i suggest you just stay away from those streams.

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Quote from: Mamun74 on January 03, 2022, 02:00:15 AM

Very immoral market strategy? No,I see nothing immoral here.In these Video You can see how to played and how to winning big amount. Yeah i know most of them they are paid reviewer and promote and use their reffer link.Gambling is our much responsibility. I think It's Marketing strategy is normal. Coz they are showing real things.

Of course, for people who know what gambling is and how it works, these videos aren't really needed. Personally, I haven't seen any of them, because I'm not even interested in it. The problem is that newbies, and above all very young people, think that everything is happening for real and that winning a large amount is so easy. This leads them to trying for themselves and most often they are losing all their money very quickly.

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Quote from: Mamun74 on January 03, 2022, 02:00:15 AM

Very immoral market strategy? No,I see nothing immoral here.In these Video You can see how to played and how to winning big amount. Yeah i know most of them they are paid reviewer and promote and use their reffer link.Gambling is our much responsibility. I think It's Marketing strategy is normal. Coz they are showing real things.

Not exactly real things at all, since many of them are using fake money to bet. It wouldn't be an issue if before the video there were a disclaimer message stating that it's a propaganda, like the ones we see on television, where it's everything a staging, literally.

The problem with streamers is they simulate events depicted on the videos as spontaneous real life, while in fact they are totally manipulated like any fictional movies or TV shows, consequently leading the audience to have a wrong conclusion of the reality, which can be harmful for them financially and even psychologically in this case.

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Quote from: Mamun74 on January 03, 2022, 02:00:15 AM

Very immoral market strategy? No,I see nothing immoral here.In these Video You can see how to played and how to winning big amount. Yeah i know most of them they are paid reviewer and promote and use their reffer link.Gambling is our much responsibility. I think It's Marketing strategy is normal. Coz they are showing real things.

Well said! Every actions we take is our sole responsibility and we should prepare for the outcome. Although I think this is a firm of marketing or rather advertisement which we all know but some influencers might take it to another level where they don't even care about what goes on next because they'll care about the money and when it backfires, they'll come back and start telling people not gamble with the same platform they were initially asking people to gamble on. This is a firm of lost priority.

Hopefully the internet user know they are paid streamers and also limit the age of those who can see thier videos after all youtube give these option when uploading videos. I'm not sure on other platforms like the twitch.

If users in the forum sees how Mamun see it, you wouldnt a negative trust for promoting a scam betting site. Unfortunately, we limit some morals.

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Quote from: Mamun74 on January 03, 2022, 02:00:15 AM

Very immoral market strategy? No,I see nothing immoral here.In these Video You can see how to played and how to winning big amount. Yeah i know most of them they are paid reviewer and promote and use their reffer link.Gambling is our much responsibility. I think It's Marketing strategy is normal. Coz they are showing real things.

Well said! Every actions we take is our sole responsibility and we should prepare for the outcome. Although I think this is a firm of marketing or rather advertisement which we all know but some influencers might take it to another level where they don't even care about what goes on next because they'll care about the money and when it backfires, they'll come back and start telling people not gamble with the same platform they were initially asking people to gamble on. This is a firm of lost priority.

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Very immoral market strategy? No,I see nothing immoral here.In these Video You can see how to played and how to winning big amount. Yeah i know most of them they are paid reviewer and promote and use their reffer link.Gambling is our much responsibility. I think It's Marketing strategy is normal. Coz they are showing real things.

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They are gamblers most of them which make more money by getting and attracting a lot of new followers in their Youtube channels rather than from gambling actually.Of course most of them can be paid from gambling sites to promote themselves there and in their description to offer referral links with bonus attached to them to play in a specific casino which is their sponsor.This is a very normal marketing strategy if you ask me,I see nothing immoral here.

I see nothing immoral there either. Basically, in those videos you can see what might happen when this or that slot was played. I mean it would be immoral if they were editing their videos to make it look like they were winning big amounts while in reality it never happened. But they never do that kind of stuff. They are showing real spins, and that's why I like to watch such videos, but of course I know the probability of that happening to me, so I don't expect winning 20,000x within an hour of playing. It can happen, but most likely it will not.

While the acts show no immorality, it does show deception in terms of winning. The problem with most YouTubers is that the money provided by them came also from the gambling owners themselves. As far as I remember, there was also a case where the rates were rigged and it caused to believe that the rates of winning a specific casino was higher. This caused an uproar on the gambling website in which it eventually closed (this happened in a CSGO gambling website) and the YouTuber being reprimanded as such.

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Some of you guys must have watched high stake slot players in their pajamas rolling thousands of dollars in single spin, buying hundred of thousands worth of bonus spins. If you notice closely yo will found the same pattern all over again and again. They start with loosing most of their bank roll (almost 80-90%), and then going all in at last and guess what, bingo!!! they hit hundreds of thousands of dollars. Very few of them write in their stream discerption about rolling with fake money (or money of which they can only cash out like 1%). Almost all of them scream loudly and show us that they are winning it in real, some are very good at faking it, which attracts lots of new gamblers (with false expectations) and they end up loosing it all which ultimately leads to social disharmony.
The argument they provide is as follow, ''we are entertainers/performers''. This need to be stopped. I am creating this thread to discuss such issues and to warn other new comers about the potential loss. If you have found such streamers please post here so that it can be helpful for new players to make realistic decisions.

No matter what the casino or their hire person, it is our responsibility to be careful if we want to play gambling because that is our money. We do not want to lose much money. We need to remember that playing gambling is risky, and we can lose money anytime and only with be careful we can avoid the big loss in gambling.

You seems to be on point here. Gambling is our responsibility so we should be prepared of the out come we get from it. If you gamble due to feelings and you lose all your funds due to your over curiosity to win more, then know that it's your responsibility because no one begs you to gamble. Anyone that gamble due to other people's result and finally lost their money, then they should take full responsibility for their lose. I think we are on the same path!

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Quote from: RILWAN on December 30, 2021, 04:04:57 AM

Since you already know this is a fake promotion what is expected of you is to stay away from the site and avoid playing there, but to say the truth I have followed stake.com for some years now and have not experienced any thing close to this before.

Promotions carried out by the site basically override all existing morals, because in business I think seeking profit is of course an absolute thing regardless of how they have been doing so far, to avoid being stuck with what they offer of course as consumers we must be able to think logically with what they offer, besides that as consumers/users of course we have to find out about every truth in the promotion, because in my opinion: 90% of promotions only contain lies and 10% of the truth of what they offer.

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It depends on the gamblers and the people around for that matter.
when indeed someone is trapped in an endless gambling addiction, this is actually quite a risky thing and the role of the people around is very important to regulate the gambler's mental and psychological well-being.
indeed the desire to get out of gambling addiction is a must from the gambler's own desire but on the other hand there must be someone closest to them who supports them so that they get more strength to be free from there

Unfortunately, a person cannot completely exclude the influence of other factors, including intrusive advertising completely. If a player is trying to recover from gambling addiction and just accidentally sees such an advertising video, as they write here with immoral advertising, then an association immediately arises in his head and he immediately remembers these gambling games. Unfortunately, many do not have enough willpower to get the thoughts of the game out of their heads. And they start again, fail. Here in this I see just the immorality of such advertising products.

this is the important point because it is an internal factor, namely in this case their self-control must be really good because basically what makes them addicted is because of the inability of gamblers to control themselves which is the strongest factor to make them addicts.
as for external factors such as the influence of family and closest friends, it is only a stimulus aid so that they can indeed navigate and get through it all. with the support of the closest people indirectly it can increase the mental and spirit so that addicts can go through the phase for this.

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Quote from: RILWAN on December 30, 2021, 04:04:57 AM

Since you already know this is a fake promotion what is expected of you is to stay away from the site and avoid playing there, but to say the truth I have followed stake.com for some years now and have not experienced any thing close to this before.

Lol not because there are some people that create fake promotions meaning the site is totally involved on this issue.
what if someone is just lurking to make the name of the site bad? if this is intentionally in sole purpose?

also the involve casino here is one of the finest gambling sites now, we can evaluate this for their behavior and there are no case that has been filed against them so this means one thing , it was just being bumped by OP for His own intention, maybe to create bad impression towards the involved site and maybe he is a employee of competing site lol.

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Since you already know this is a fake promotion what is expected of you is to stay away from the site and avoid playing there, but to say the truth I have followed stake.com for some years now and have not experienced any thing close to this before.

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