Topic: Voting is harmful. Don't do it (Read 2363 times)

I agree with you that Op's advice is bad, but I believe he has a purpose for saying that citizens should not vote for any candidate during the election. Many people have been discouraged by the election because the candidates they voted for failed to keep the vows they made to us, once they were in the position they were running for. To be honest, we don't know who is going to listen to us after they get what they want in this time of economic hardship. In my country, for many years, the candidates we have supported have always abandoned us, and many people have become so disappointed by their behavior that they will never cast votes for them again.

Of course, the candidate who is supposed to win will still win whether or not we vote, but if the individual who they voted for later breaks their word, any citizen who chooses not to cast their votes will feel confident in knowing that they did not vote for the wrong candidate. So, even though people rush to vote for a different candidate, there is no guarantee that this person will be the best candidate for solving their problems.

When a person has the ability to vote, 'not voting' is not possible for that person. Why is it not possible? Because not voting is simply a vote in a different direction... possibly a vote to express that the system isn't acceptable.

Before voting either way - to stay with the system or to not play along - one needs to know what is really going on in the system. Here are four websites that have the info of what is really going on, in audio/video format - Youtube:
1. Secrets of the Legal Industry Part 1 of 3 - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a8MAQEJZbuY&list=PL8EWUTdkthJQjU6nhTTvzcgJjHLRX-TWP
2. Man and Law - https://www.youtube.com/@manandlaw6525/videos
3. Trust In All Law - https://www.youtube.com/@trustinalllaw8974/videos
4. Craig Lynch - https://www.youtube.com/c/CraigLynch/videos

Number '1' is different than the other three. It is the first part of three parts. It matches what we have learned better than the other three.

This is not a game. If you are serious about not voting, look into these and see that you are sort of right for not voting. But the way that you are right is that voting like we have today is not as important as we have come to believe.

Learning the attitude in the videos will be difficult. But the rewards will make it worthwhile.

Voting is the only way which you exercise your civil right to choose the leader you want to serve you as a citizen.  When we decides not to vote we may be doing ourselves wrong to give opportunity to some one who is not qualify to rule. When we come out in mass to vote it shows that we have the power to choose the leader we want. Politicians understands the power we have as citizens, that is why when elections are around the corners they become very humble to citizens and make all promises because they know without our votes they can't get what they want. To vote is our right, when we don't do it it as if we are selling our rights.

Voting was the means of choosing a candidate that best fits the people’s interests. But along the line leadership is no longer by voting. It’s now about how much you have the people that is behind you. This is how so many so call Leader’s have forcefully put themselves in that position. Vote no longer count on the. Vote democratically was supposed to be majority winning over minority. This has effected the economy and progress of many countries, having someone getting power forcefully without have the ability and capacity of leading them.
I think there should be a better way of dealing with the way people vote. So that Leadership can be on the people’s choice and not politicians power.

It's the way of a Democracy.

In a Democracy, the majority wins over the minority. The way the majority won is by getting their people into office.

In a country as big as the US, there is a tiny group of people that rule the general populace. That sounds like a group dictatorship, whatever that is called. That's why America is a Republic. Most of the rules do not apply to the people.

I don't think it is a good idea to say people should not vote or think that voting is a bad idea, yes we know that when we vote they do what we like but that doesn't mean we can't vote, voting is the only way that can make us change the government and also things that can make the country become a good nation, we are the government and we are the one to vote the right person, the person we trust and also the person that will make our lives better, although we don't know the person that will make our lives better because all the politician starts by using a way to win people mind and after the voting, they will start showing us their true color.

The only way to stop voting for the wrong people is to know them from the beginning, we should know the person we are voting for, their background and the kind of person they are, sometimes I don't blame the people who we vote for after they start treating us badly because when they are contesting and during the election they give money and we accept it, accepting money from them from the beginning show that we have sold our vote and our right and that is why we don't have any power against them when they forget about us.

If they could convince us that Mark Twain was right, half their battle would be won.

So true

Of course, no system is perfect and voting is not inherently good or bad as it has its challenges but it's actually a vital instrument for shaping our collective Future. I understand the point you are trying to proof but what if we all decide to stop going out to vote, then what next? Isn't it denying ourselves the right/chance to at least try to make a choice or try to make our voices heard? What if your vote is that one last "key" we need in choosing a good leadership for the system, Never say Never my friend. Participating or voting in a system that seems flawed may feel like legitimizing it but don't forget that abstaining from voting may not also be the most effective way to bring the change we desire.

It depends on which country to vote in. In Russia, elections are all drawn without us, without citizens, so there is no point in going.

Valid questions! It's completely understandable to feel frustrated with the election voting system, but refusing to vote isn't the solution. In fact, not voting can lead to more harm than good. Imagine if everyone stayed indoors during elections - the system would be disorganized and scattered. Instead of getting angry and giving up, why not try other ways to make things work better.

Because indeed, what will happen if you don't vote? What if your vote counts and it changes things? If you don't vote, who is voting in your place? Instead of getting angry and refusing to vote for a change and discouraging others from voting, why not devise other means to help the system become better?
I know the government system might not be favoring a lot of people right now, and that's why they are individuals who stand up to build a better system.

That means you will wake up and see that someone you've never heard of is now your president, you never heard his intention, and you will be forced to accept it. Is that the better option? It's quite annoying and painful to see that you have to go through a lot even after the voting process and maybe your desired leader doesn't come out, but it doesn't mean the leader in position doesn't have good intentions even if it's one.

Let's normalize doing our parts as citizens and leave the rest to God.

There are 4 points that you need to consider regarding voting or not voting.

1. What will happen if you vote.

2. What will happen to the country if you don't vote.

3. Who will take advantage to do what, if your vote doesn't exist to help.

4. Who will get what benefit if you DO vote.

I completely agree with you, but the thing is that the government knows it well. And for any government, the most favorite tactic is for the population to have a lot of loans. And then the entire population is afraid of losing their jobs, because if they rebel against the government, they will all be fired. Unfortunately, all these rules have long been known and it is very difficult to do something about this state of affairs. Of course, there are dissatisfied people who express this, but they are few and far between.

Ment = To frag-ment ows mind with a repeating (orna-ment) pattern with such amaze-ment until align-ment is reacht that the embank-ment (surounding) is good and necesary for enjoy-ment and accomplish-ment without adjust-ment but with acknowledg-ment to the agree-ment off advance-ment of ever more control.
Short version, the act of taking control.

I understand why you are frustrated with election system. It feels like your vote do not count and that outcome already decided. It is especially disheartening when we think government may manipulate election results. I do not have much knowledge about other countries but I know about my country and here establishment change everything and they have power and they decide that who will be the winner. Therefore many people don't trust on election system. By the way keep in mind that when people work together and persist they can create change even if it seems small at first.

180-degrees off in the modern 'first world'!  Most people are so dumbed down due to the mind control ('govern [meaning control] ment[ality]') that the more they 'know', the more likely they are to vote for complete corp-gov animated shit-heads.  That's why with very few exceptions most 'western democracies' have WEF 'young global leaders' figure-heads as 'leaders.'

I understand this, that's why I didn't go to the elections. Since I once had a government job, one of the conditions for continuing my contract was "go and vote," but I didn't do it, because it's impossible to check.
But you know what? Nobody cares.
The government will rig the election results, and no one will stop them from doing it. I'm not saying that we should throw up our hands and calm down now. But the problem is that the system is already well-established and well-coordinated. And our place in it, unfortunately, is predetermined, while our opinion doesn't really matter to anyone.

However, there are many who are waking up to the fact that a President doesn't have power over their lives in the USA. They are simply bypassing the Federal Reserve Banking system in their operations in life. It isn't easy, but they are doing it.

Other than money, what power does government have over people? The only power gov has is that the people have faith in it. When they lose faith, they will simply go other ways, and gov will fail.

Walter Williams: Why the founders did not want a Democracy
https://youtu.be/6tq_VDp2CKo
Trump most likey will implement a Meritcracy

The United States is different. So is the UK, Canada, Australia. Here's how.

In these countries - especially the US - when a person votes, the man/woman isn't the one voting technically. The human being may be the force behind the person on the voter registration, but he/she isn't the one voting. Rather, its the name on the voter registration doing the voting. That name is a person. This means that the man/woman can't be held liable for anything. Only the name on the ballot or registration can be held. Why? Because the man/woman harmed nobody.

Voting might authenticate the system, but what would we have without the system? Chaos. Lynchings. Lack of a form of economy that brings wealth to average people. Strength in numbers.

If you don't like the evil in the system, change the system. But don't destroy the good in the system just to get rid of the evil. Rather, learn the difference between persons and people - paper entities and human beings - so that you can act with voting understanding, and protect yourself from the evil.

True, the persons vs. people concept is something that will take a little thinking to get into your head... into your understanding. But it is the best way to keep true freedom. Don't throw it away for a system where you can be held liable.