Voting is harmful. Don't do it - page 3.

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Quote from: montaga on July 28, 2024, 12:52:47 AM

‘DEMOCRACY IS TWO WOLVES AND A LAMB VOTING ON WHAT TO HAVE FOR LUNCH’
https://founders.archives.gov/documents/Adams/99-02-02-6371
US and a lot of other countries are a Republic - of....

Dont worry this scam like others will end
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Psssssssssssshhhh,

That only happens if people are capable of coordinating.

Theorem: The American people are incapable of strategically coordinating their votes to ensure that they will get what they want.

Proof: In a primary election, there would be two parties, namely Party A and Party B. Party A and Party B f@$%ing hate each other. Without loss of generality, assume that there is a sizable number of coordinating strategic people from Party A. Then these people would register as members of Party B and vote in the primary for dumby mcdumbface as their nominee in Party B. In the general election, Party A will head up against dumby mcdumbface in the general election and WIN. But this does not happen, so Americans can't coordinate a strategy. Q.E.D.

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‘DEMOCRACY IS TWO WOLVES AND A LAMB VOTING ON WHAT TO HAVE FOR LUNCH’
https://founders.archives.gov/documents/Adams/99-02-02-6371
US and a lot of other countries are a Republic - of....

Dont worry this scam like others will end
https://www.youtube.com/shorts/ePYZQutMoQQ

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Quote from: 348Judah on July 04, 2024, 03:23:26 PM

You're telling us not to be patriotic, not to vote and as well not to go for our right, choose the required leader we want, which we could also interpret that our voices should not be heard, we should just be without being under a government rule, maybe i will advise you on this, that you should just keep this to yourself, you don't have to persuade others and create a negative impression in them towards the leaders or voting process.

First of all, you should ask him the country he is from because I’m very sure that if he is in a country where things are not going well and the citizens what the country should change he will be among those who will first come out and vote, every individual has right to vote for his candidate and either you vote or not person must be voted and rule the country so you don’t have any choice, voting by yourself is what will make you have the right to prove yourself as a good citizen, you vote for a good person is your choice or you vote for a bad person is still your choice and if anyone wins the country is going to be rule by the winner so you don’t have a choice than to come out and vote to help the others.

We are the government because without the vote of the people they can’t become the leaders, although we all know that sometimes you stress yourself to vote and the person you vote for does not win, you as a citizen that votes know that you want the best for the country and vote for the right person and who you trust to be your leader, if you ask me this advice is not good at all, to vote is very important to every citizen in the country so let not discourage each for fighting for our right.

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Quote from: BADecker on July 24, 2024, 11:53:32 AM

Quote from: jvanname on July 24, 2024, 11:09:23 AM

People choose the lesser of the two evils because they are themselves evil and because they are themselves too inept to strategize and coordinate the situation in such a way that delivers positive results. They can only strategize in a way that delivers poor results and in such a way that undermines their own democracy.

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-Joseph Van Name Ph.D.

You are right. The good Christians are stuck in this world that is ruled by the Prince of Darkness, Satan.

If you look throughout the Gospels in the Bible (first 4 books of the NT), you will see that Jesus tells the people that they can do miracles if they believe in Him. But the people have a difficult time doing these miracles, because this world is ruled by Satan.

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People need to learn about strategic voting so that we can develop a system that prevents strategic voting. For example, if we have a closed primary, purely strategic people will not register for the party that they actually believe in. These purely strategic people may register for the party that they believe that they can improve the most. Or maybe they won't because they will be using another strategy. They may instead be voting for the candidate who has the greatest chance of winning the general election in their preferred party. Or maybe they will be voting for the person in the party they don't like who has the least chance of winning the general election. Political primaries are so rife with strategic voting that there are many strategies that people can use but these strategies cancel each other out.

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We will not vote, they will vote for us. So it's best not to avoid it.

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Quote from: Zanab247 on July 21, 2024, 11:03:48 AM

If voting is harmful in your country, don't think is harmful to other countries in the world op, because voting is counting in other countries to make them to elected a potential leaders that will help the countries to achieve their goal.

I know, there are some leaders that will promised the societies with so many things during the campaign that will make the people in the societies to come out to vote massively, but once they resume office they will no longer fulfill their promise which I believe that is the harmful you are talking about in this trend, but don't allow such things to discourage you not to vote during the election period. If you live in a family that feel voting is harmful, try to prove to them that voting is helpful to a society because once you voted for the candidate of your choice, it make you to be a good citizen that want the progress of the society.

It is very clear that voting means the successful exercise of one's rightful civil rights. And by voting we can elect the leaders of our choice who will prioritize and fulfill our social needs. But there are many countries that undermine citizens right to vote to achieve their immoral ends. But it is nothing more than utter nonsense to say that voting is harmful for other countries compared to that country which is completely in line with your opinion. So as a successful citizen of a country his most important thing is not to waste votes and to exercise his civil rights by voting.

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Quote from: BunnyWunny on July 04, 2024, 12:52:44 PM

We live in a globalised technocracy where people have been reduced to nothing more than economic units. Voting legitimises an illegitimate system. Don't go out to vote in their little charade. Have some dignity. Don't contribute to the tryanny of modern governance systems.

The voting is matter of choice they cannot force anyone to go and vote who he didn't have interest for, and the harmful voting is normal is occur in villages there the one that like do or die, because they don't care to injury each other's. As we all know that the technology has make everything to be easy faster, and that's why the global make eve vote patterns change before when their doing physical voting the cheat is much involved then now that they the technology has changed everything.

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Quote from: jvanname on July 24, 2024, 11:09:23 AM

Quote from: uneng on July 23, 2024, 04:56:48 PM

Quote from: BunnyWunny on July 23, 2024, 03:40:29 PM

the brainwashing is worse than I thought Shocked

People are used to choose the "lesser evil" and feel proud for exercising their right to vote. The right of choosing which criminal faction is going to rule their nations for the next few years. In other words: to prejudice common citizens in order to boost personal interests of those in charge of power.

Democracy is a sacred word. If you criticize its flaws you are excluded from social environments. The truth is that every systems have their flaws, because they are ran by wicked human beings. But I really feel annoyed for democracy having a special treatment, as it was something superior to everything else.

I would prefer being ruled by a fair and kind king, than by a cynical and manipulative democrat regime, and vice-versa. After all the problem isn't even the regime, but the society, the people who compose it. The political scenario just reflects the quality of the countrymen.

People choose the lesser of the two evils because they are themselves evil and because they are themselves too inept to strategize and coordinate the situation in such a way that delivers positive results. They can only strategize in a way that delivers poor results and in such a way that undermines their own democracy.

Regards,

-Joseph Van Name Ph.D.

You are right. The good Christians are stuck in this world that is ruled by the Prince of Darkness, Satan.

If you look throughout the Gospels in the Bible (first 4 books of the NT), you will see that Jesus tells the people that they can do miracles if they believe in Him. But the people have a difficult time doing these miracles, because this world is ruled by Satan.

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Quote from: uneng on July 23, 2024, 04:56:48 PM

Quote from: BunnyWunny on July 23, 2024, 03:40:29 PM

the brainwashing is worse than I thought Shocked

People are used to choose the "lesser evil" and feel proud for exercising their right to vote. The right of choosing which criminal faction is going to rule their nations for the next few years. In other words: to prejudice common citizens in order to boost personal interests of those in charge of power.

Democracy is a sacred word. If you criticize its flaws you are excluded from social environments. The truth is that every systems have their flaws, because they are ran by wicked human beings. But I really feel annoyed for democracy having a special treatment, as it was something superior to everything else.

I would prefer being ruled by a fair and kind king, than by a cynical and manipulative democrat regime, and vice-versa. After all the problem isn't even the regime, but the society, the people who compose it. The political scenario just reflects the quality of the countrymen.

People choose the lesser of the two evils because they are themselves evil and because they are themselves too inept to strategize and coordinate the situation in such a way that delivers positive results. They can only strategize in a way that delivers poor results and in such a way that undermines their own democracy.

Regards,

-Joseph Van Name Ph.D.

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Quote from: BunnyWunny on July 23, 2024, 03:40:29 PM

the brainwashing is worse than I thought Shocked

People are used to choose the "lesser evil" and feel proud for exercising their right to vote. The right of choosing which criminal faction is going to rule their nations for the next few years. In other words: to prejudice common citizens in order to boost personal interests of those in charge of power.

Democracy is a sacred word. If you criticize its flaws you are excluded from social environments. The truth is that every systems have their flaws, because they are ran by wicked human beings. But I really feel annoyed for democracy having a special treatment, as it was something superior to everything else.

I would prefer being ruled by a fair and kind king, than by a cynical and manipulative democrat regime, and vice-versa. After all the problem isn't even the regime, but the society, the people who compose it. The political scenario just reflects the quality of the countrymen.

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the brainwashing is worse than I thought Shocked

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If we don't vote, how do we get to choose our leaders? Do we go about appointing them as our leaders whether they are bonafide to rule us or not?

Notwithstanding, we humans need a ruler to rule over us and it is not what to be done without carrying out voting procedures. Voting must occur in any area of rulership position, be it president, governor, senate, or even in community leadership, voting must count. It is through it we know who's our leader. As the saying always goes "The majority carries the vote"

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Quote from: BunnyWunny on July 04, 2024, 12:52:44 PM

We live in a globalised technocracy where people have been reduced to nothing more than economic units. Voting legitimises an illegitimate system. Don't go out to vote in their little charade. Have some dignity. Don't contribute to the tryanny of modern governance systems.

voting is not harmful but just that in some countries the cizitens voting it's not necessary because the government takes control, but in some countries the majority of the votes leads the government so voting it's very important. We shouldn't advice people not to vote because no matter how we vote even if the government don't see our votes as somethinthat doesn't mean that we should stop voting so our votes still counts no matter what.

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Quote from: Kruella88 on July 23, 2024, 04:55:45 AM

It is getting harder and harder to live, as if our rights are being crushed day by day and we are getting richer.

In the Great Depression, they formed cop-ops. A co-op was a little community where the members lived off the land and the skills of each other. They didn't live with government money or anything else government. Some of these co-ops are still around today (https://midlandservices.com/ and https://uwcc.wisc.edu/wisconsin-co-op-directory-2/ and https://duckduckgo.com/?q=midland+co-op+wisconsin&ia=web).

We now have what is called the Private Membership Association (PMA). This is a better setup than the co-ops.

It's difficult. But time to get together with like-minded people, and start living off the land and each others' skills again.

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It is getting harder and harder to live, as if our rights are being crushed day by day and we are getting richer.

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Quote from: BunnyWunny on July 22, 2024, 01:17:30 PM

Quote from: FatFork on July 22, 2024, 12:42:31 PM

Quote from: BunnyWunny on July 21, 2024, 07:10:50 PM

you are a stooge for the state.

Oh absolutely, because rebelling against basic societal rules and contributing nothing has always been the key to dismantling the all-powerful state. They must be terrified of your... non-compliance?

Quote from: BunnyWunny on July 21, 2024, 07:10:50 PM

are you seriously comparing native american society to modern "democratic" society? have you lost every marble in your head?

I don't. You brought them into the conversation, not me. The point is, many pre-colonial Native American tribes had functioning structures, even if different from our modern democracies. These structures involved complex leadership systems with councils, chiefs, and representatives - all chosen by the people. So, like I said before, next time you should really learn some history.

one major and profound difference being, each member of the tribe actually could go talk to their tribal chief and explain their worries and concerns.. good luck getting a meeting with the potus.

the other being, they did not have anywhere near the amount of regulations and laws that modern society does, the governance structures were extremely loose and basic.

democracy in small groups works, that is patently obvious.

democracy in large groups (try 330 million) does not work and cannot even be considered democracy

Voting helps to keep a Constitutional Convention from happening. That's the only thing that can mess our situation up. The current Amendments are sufficient for both, our Constitutional Republic, and the Democracy of the way the government works.

The people need to realize that none of the things that the current governmental regime does has anything to do with them the people... except that they voluntarily 'obey' it. The courts are open for men and women to stand as men and women rather than persons, and legally and lawfully reject every order that government tries to give them, through proper court adjudication. It's simple, so simple that it's scary.

The only three things that the courts can touch men and women on are harm, property damage, or direct threat. The reason why the courts seem to have so much more power is that the men and women agree to it when they agree to being represented.

Wake up. Voting is the way to keep government under control if it is used correctly and wisely.

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Quote from: FatFork on July 22, 2024, 12:42:31 PM

Quote from: BunnyWunny on July 21, 2024, 07:10:50 PM

you are a stooge for the state.

Oh absolutely, because rebelling against basic societal rules and contributing nothing has always been the key to dismantling the all-powerful state. They must be terrified of your... non-compliance?

Quote from: BunnyWunny on July 21, 2024, 07:10:50 PM

are you seriously comparing native american society to modern "democratic" society? have you lost every marble in your head?

I don't. You brought them into the conversation, not me. The point is, many pre-colonial Native American tribes had functioning structures, even if different from our modern democracies. These structures involved complex leadership systems with councils, chiefs, and representatives - all chosen by the people. So, like I said before, next time you should really learn some history.

one major and profound difference being, each member of the tribe actually could go talk to their tribal chief and explain their worries and concerns.. good luck getting a meeting with the potus.

the other being, they did not have anywhere near the amount of regulations and laws that modern society does, the governance structures were extremely loose and basic.

democracy in small groups works, that is patently obvious.

democracy in large groups (try 330 million) does not work and cannot even be considered democracy

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Quote from: BunnyWunny on July 21, 2024, 07:10:50 PM

you are a stooge for the state.

Oh absolutely, because rebelling against basic societal rules and contributing nothing has always been the key to dismantling the all-powerful state. They must be terrified of your... non-compliance?

Quote from: BunnyWunny on July 21, 2024, 07:10:50 PM

are you seriously comparing native american society to modern "democratic" society? have you lost every marble in your head?

I don't. You brought them into the conversation, not me. The point is, many pre-colonial Native American tribes had functioning structures, even if different from our modern democracies. These structures involved complex leadership systems with councils, chiefs, and representatives - all chosen by the people. So, like I said before, next time you should really learn some history.

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Regarding presidential elections, voting only shows your delegate to the Electoral College from your voting district, how to vote in an election. You are not endangered by your voting.

Further, if you understand freedom and the Constitutional Republic we live under, the danger from NOT voting is small. It only has to do with changes made by a Constitutional Convention.

Any other danger from voting or not voting comes from not understanding your freedom and liberty power in the land of America.

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Quote from: FatFork on July 21, 2024, 01:38:27 PM

Quote from: BunnyWunny on July 21, 2024, 12:30:58 PM

I live under actual tyranny. In my country we are one bad news cycle away from being sent to die in a NATO war. If that is not tyranny then I do not know what is.

That's right, you don't know.

Quote from: BunnyWunny on July 21, 2024, 12:30:58 PM

Just read a book on the native americans my friend, and see how happy they were.

Sarcasm or ignorance? You do know that social structure was fundamental to traditional Native American societies? They may not have had written rules or bloated governments, but they had clear hierarchies and social norms everyone had to follow. It's embarrassing that someone from outside the US needs to school you on your own history.

you are a stooge for the state.

are you seriously comparing native american society to modern "democratic" society? have you lost every marble in your head?

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