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hero member
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People are just selling some of those $90 coins for quick profit.

Even the $100 coins is a quick 7% profit now.

The next big dump will resume next weekend lol

Not so sure.
sr. member
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People are just selling some of those $90 coins for quick profit.

Even the $100 coins is a quick 7% profit now.

The next big dump will resume next weekend lol

is there any other service out there then bifinex (they stoped working with gox due to dwolla stuff etc.. ) to short on gox?
massive opportunity Smiley



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People are just selling some of those $90 coins for quick profit.

Even the $100 coins is a quick 7% profit now.

The next big dump will resume next weekend lol
sr. member
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I hear BTC being sold...

Will the current price hold without our good friend wallzila?
hehe .. thats why i'm not buying  this all feels too manipulated to me.

This kind of blatant manipulation only encourages me to withdraw more USD from the exchanges.

I'm thinking of this as a kind of attack against crypto currencies.

If someone was hired and funded by a government and asked to do their best to destabilise and potentially collapse Bitcoin and other crypto currencies in general this is exactly how someone could do it and accumulate Bitcoin for future moves while doing so.

Destabilisation to the point where people don't know what's going on or have any idea what to expect will deter serious investors from getting involved.

I'm not saying this is a 'state actor' but it makes sense that this would be one method of attack by a well funded enemy of Bitcoin.

I'm thinking that this kind of large scale manipulation could pave the way for further regulation and open up exchanges to legal problems under different laws to the existing ones which are being applied right now.

I wonder if anyone who knows much about Japanese legislation and how uncontrolled potentially preventable manipulation on this scale would apply to MtGox. I have to wonder if someone's engineering a situation which could open up new avenues of legal action.

on the other hand.. these are big opportunities for other  big players to join the game.. since it's so easy to manipulate and make big profits 

free market will set itself back on track ..    thats what I believe..   

there's enough btc out there to eat big manipulators whatever amount they bring..  at some point they need to buy btc to push prices down with a ask wall so..  if you have a lot of btc and want to cash out .. thats an opportunity.

i noticed too that 8k wazillza at some point didnt move price.. ppl where like.. fuck it.  .. so they can manipulate of course but there always that line where people are fed up with it.

i'm sure with the last rally up from yesterday and today.. .. if wazilla shows up .. some panic silling wil happen.; and much more as usual since there are bigger volumes involved..   so there's an opportunity to buy in low.     

I personaly dont think it's government people behind the manipuation, they could crash the price anyday.. with a few 100 millions.. not that big of an amount i think for even a small country.

happy trading

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I don't expect BTC breaking $115 before crashing again.

So i'm not the only one.
Probably not even 112.
We'll see.

legendary
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Feeling playful lately. Bought some on the way up at $101ish due to move up backed up by volume, sold at $108.5

I don't expect BTC breaking $115 before crashing again.
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hero member
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Good morning.

Hmmm.
This is gonna hurt.
legendary
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I hear BTC being sold...

Will the current price hold without our good friend wallzila?
hehe .. thats why i'm not buying  this all feels too manipulated to me.

This kind of blatant manipulation only encourages me to withdraw more USD from the exchanges.

I'm thinking of this as a kind of attack against crypto currencies.

If someone was hired and funded by a government and asked to do their best to destabilise and potentially collapse Bitcoin and other crypto currencies in general this is exactly how someone could do it and accumulate Bitcoin for future moves while doing so.

Destabilisation to the point where people don't know what's going on or have any idea what to expect will deter serious investors from getting involved.

I'm not saying this is a 'state actor' but it makes sense that this would be one method of attack by a well funded enemy of Bitcoin.

I'm thinking that this kind of large scale manipulation could pave the way for further regulation and open up exchanges to legal problems under different laws to the existing ones which are being applied right now.

I wonder if anyone who knows much about Japanese legislation and how uncontrolled potentially preventable manipulation on this scale would apply to MtGox. I have to wonder if someone's engineering a situation which could open up new avenues of legal action.
hero member
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Morning bitcoin maddness. Bloody typical. Just as I decide to grow balls and wait for another big dump, this happens!
sr. member
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Bought at 101, sold at 107.  This is fun!   Rinse and repeat I hope.  Grin
legendary
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Rally on volume... And we were just where we were before the crash to sub-$100... And with buying volume as we didn't have for many weeks.

Crazy BTC Wink
legendary
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LOL! That about sums up my "strategy" for the weekend. Damn, I was really hoping to get some sleep tonight but... can't... stop... watching.

Sleep?

THIS IS BITCOIN!!!
Cool
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how tedious.

Seems like a great time to sell if you hesitated before...

C'mon plankton, bite that whale in the ass!
legendary
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I hear BTC being sold...

Will the current price hold without our good friend wallzila?

Actually the only thing worrying me for the middle term BTC price is the legal situation in USA.
How is that now? Still endangered by the department for homeland security?
sr. member
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Dammit why does fiat money have to be that slow. I deposited enough to buy 50BTC on thursday, still havnt gotten the transfer through. I have been refreshing my balance so many times the last days, and now this Sad

I know everyone wants "cheap" coins but you may want to think about "fairly priced" coins. There is nothing wrong with purchasing something that is priced fairly.

Cut the current price in half and that would be about "fair".

That would be $54 a coin. That is just as ridiculous as stating the fair price should be $265. You are going to have a hard time finding anyone agrees with you when the consensus is the fair price at this moment is $108.

Actually, there are a few people here who believe it should be in the $13-$30 range.  I've kept my personal valuation at $50-60 for the time being and that's about the price most people say they would "go all in".  Time will tell.
legendary
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Well, shit.

I just started using them.  Cry

They were also a sponsor of Ed & Ethan Bitcoin show.

Sad day indeed.


Edit: How many have closed now? 5, 6?
legendary
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Antifragile
Dammit why does fiat money have to be that slow. I deposited enough to buy 50BTC on thursday, still havnt gotten the transfer through. I have been refreshing my balance so many times the last days, and now this Sad

I know everyone wants "cheap" coins but you may want to think about "fairly priced" coins. There is nothing wrong with purchasing something that is priced fairly.

Cut the current price in half and that would be about "fair".

That would be $54 a coin. That is just as ridiculous as stating the fair price should be $265. You are going to have a hard time finding anyone agrees with you when the consensus is the fair price at this moment is $108.
How do we evaluate BTC? If we approach it like a stock and talk about earnings, supply and demand, etc., we can see there aren't large earnings but there sure is supply and demand with this low float "entity".
We also can look at it like a commodity, or as a store of value, but these days it is too volatile for that. (But it still must be factored in considering it is a revolutionary monetary tool.

But, just looking at using Bitcoin as a replacement for a small percentage of Credit Card transactions, Western Union transactions, etc, we can evaluate Bitcoin at over $1000 EASY. That is not right now. BUT,
who evaluates a new disruptive "stock" at "right now" performance? Anyone remember Amazon, Ebay, etc. in the late early days? They were trading at 50, 75 or more times earnings. You do that with disruptive Black Swan technology.


So, I can't agree with a low price now, but it may very well happen as we have things, like government, price manipulation, scared investors, etc. there beyond our control. But if we don't get shut down (which really would be tough), we are looking at evaluations that make my $1000 price seem small. Just do the math, simple math... Oh, my bet is that more than likely we are on the Forex in the next couple of years... that is when things go Boom (to boot).
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