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This current bearish trend isn't going to stop until the price falls to the point that the market regains its previously reasonable trading volume. Most of May was characterized by no-volume "stability", with the price only floating 110+ because of systematic large buys by major players coupled with bot action producing an illusion of trading volume during periods of no-volume. The roll to 135 was nothing like the roll from 110-165 in post-crash April, where volume was high, there was constant trading, and Gox still had a deep verification queue with millions in fiat being wired while almost nothing got withdrawn.

This fall will have a lot of bull traps with people feeling that lower lows are cheap coins.

BTC was absolutely not post-bubble "stable" 110+ amidst no trading volume after trading for the rest of its existence sub $50. It's just currently an incredibly manipulated market where anyone with a few mega can have a huge short-term influence that produces illusions for smaller positions and makes money for their own.

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Couldn't have put it in a more clear and succinct maner. The bubble popped, but the price is still artificial. Real exponential price of Bitcoin is around 45+ USD. This is typical of bubbles bursting. Big chunk of the price goes down relatively fast, but then there is a slow downward trend that can take months until we reach the real price again.
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This current bearish trend isn't going to stop until the price falls to the point that the market regains its previously reasonable trading volume. Most of May was characterized by no-volume "stability", with the price only floating 110+ because of systematic large buys by major players coupled with bot action producing an illusion of trading volume during periods of no-volume. The roll to 135 was nothing like the roll from 110-165 in post-crash April, where volume was high, there was constant trading, and Gox still had a deep verification queue with millions in fiat being wired while almost nothing got withdrawn.

This fall will have a lot of bull traps with people feeling that lower lows are cheap coins.

BTC was absolutely not post-bubble "stable" 110+ amidst no trading volume after trading for the rest of its existence sub $50. It's just currently an incredibly manipulated market where anyone with a few mega can have a huge short-term influence that produces illusions for smaller positions and makes money for their own.
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in defi we trust

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on the current trajectory, tomorrow's about right... Shocked

You just started trading, right? I'm not going to pretend that I'm an old hand at this, but at least I learned that you don't simply draw a line through the points of the past 12 hour, expecting it will continue like that for another 12.

When I say "trajectory", I take into consideration the momentum of the current down trend. It might reignite, but right now, it seems we've entered a calmer period. If it continues that way, we'll see spikes of maybe +/- 5 USD around where we are now, but, no, not "70".

Read your post and your predictions backwards  and.... you should leave the irony aside
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[...]

on the current trajectory, tomorrow's about right... Shocked

You just started trading, right? I'm not going to pretend that I'm an old hand at this, but at least I learned that you don't simply draw a line through the points of the past 12 hour, expecting it will continue like that for another 12.

When I say "trajectory", I take into consideration the momentum of the current down trend. It might reignite, but right now, it seems we've entered a calmer period. If it continues that way, we'll see spikes of maybe +/- 5 USD around where we are now, but, no, not "70".

nope.

and trajectory means what it means, no matter how you might define it. But I guess you meant - given how bitcoin tends to move normally, I don't expect it to reach 70 today. But these are strange times...
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[...]

on the current trajectory, tomorrow's about right... Shocked

You just started trading, right? I'm not going to pretend that I'm an old hand at this, but at least I learned that you don't simply draw a line through the points of the past 12 hour, expecting it will continue like that for another 12.

When I say "trajectory", I take into consideration the momentum of the current down trend. It might reignite, but right now, it seems we've entered a calmer period. If it continues that way, we'll see spikes of maybe +/- 5 USD around where we are now, but, no, not "70".
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doom and gloom, everywhere I look.

Stay realistic, people. The current downtrend didn't come completely as a surprise, and I won't pretend to know where exactly it stops.

But 70 isn't gonna happen today, at least not on the current trajectory.
Tomorrow?



on the current trajectory, tomorrow's about right... Shocked
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doom and gloom, everywhere I look.

Stay realistic, people. The current downtrend didn't come completely as a surprise, and I won't pretend to know where exactly it stops.

But 70 isn't gonna happen today, at least not on the current trajectory.
Tomorrow?

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doom and gloom, everywhere I look.

Stay realistic, people. The current downtrend didn't come completely as a surprise, and I won't pretend to know where exactly it stops.

But 70 isn't gonna happen today, at least not on the current trajectory.
Tomorrow?
legendary
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doom and gloom, everywhere I look.

Stay realistic, people. The current downtrend didn't come completely as a surprise, and I won't pretend to know where exactly it stops.

But 70 isn't gonna happen today, at least not on the current trajectory.
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I wonder which month of 2011 we are in?

We are not in 2011.
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I wonder which month of 2011 we are in?
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Born to chew bubble gum and kick ass
Might fall to 70 if head&shoulders is formed.

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1CBuddyxy4FerT3hzMmi1Jz48ESzRw1ZzZ
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Confirmed fake

All press releases are posted on FB. This one is nowhere to be found there:

http://www.facebook.com/MtGox
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Stephen Reed
Here is the short term downtrend after the recent peak at $136. The next bid walls are at $104-105.



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So... no new engine and DDOS protection?  Angry

and no LTC.

Just compare this PDF properties with properties of any other PDF from mtgox website.

This PDF:
Filename: mt-gox-press-release-litecoin.pdf
Author: GoxPR
Program: PR
Format: PDF-1.6

Any other MtGox PDF:
Filename: 20130503_coinlab_lawsuit.pdf (started with date)
Author: GBG
Program: Mac OS X 10.8.3 Quartz PDFContext
Format: PDF-1.3

Great analysis, thanks.
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in defi we trust
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So... no new engine and DDOS protection?  Angry

and no LTC.

Just compare this PDF properties with properties of any other PDF from mtgox website.

This PDF:
Filename: mt-gox-press-release-litecoin.pdf
Author: GoxPR
Program: PR
Format: PDF-1.6

Any other MtGox PDF:
Filename: 20130503_coinlab_lawsuit.pdf (started with date)
Author: GBG
Program: Mac OS X 10.8.3 Quartz PDFContext
Format: PDF-1.3
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And I thought why ltc is going down and people not panic buying until I saw it's not from Gox, lol.
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So... no new engine and DDOS protection?  Angry
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