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legendary
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Time to ignore, was hoping to see something insightful from you but alas it wasn't meant to be. Goodbye. Smiley
sr. member
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Stop feeling the troll. Coinseeker is a retard. He's hoping the market goes down so he can buy back in. He's fourkey2001 2.0. Just click ignore, stop quoting him if you do reply, and move on. Pointing out he's wrong just makes he move onto some new FUD.

And here comes the name calling.  Ah...yes.  The height of supreme intelligence.  Roll Eyes  Not sure how wanting the price to drop makes me a bad person and certainly warrants being called names.  I guess you'd prefer there was a Bull section and a Bear section so you wouldn't have to read any posts contrary to your beliefs and opinions?  Segregationist?  

I get a real mixed message from you but the manipulative part is clear. It is the honest part that isn't so clear. You try to keep things professional with your words, sort of like a banker in a suite, but your message isn't exactly in line with your professionalism, sort of like a banker in a suite.  Shocked
For example, none of us had a full story regarding the DHS thing with Dwolla. Well, how can you come out and say things are heading down, this sounds real bad, etc? The most we can say is what the statement said, but you took that and created a whole story and gave every body an easy way out - sell.
You are showing your true agenda - you want the price of BTC down, whether or not it is for you to buy in lower we don't know. My guess is no, because being ingenuine in order to buy lower (by helping a panic sell to occur) is being ingenuine in the end. That is clearly not what BTC is about.

And yet you try to convey this image of being a good person. You bring up your wife and how you talk about those crazies on the forum. Hello... you are sort of one of them in many of our eyes. And again, it is because of this in-genuine odor you give off. Many won't bring it up to you for you on probably on ignore. Anyway, I don't dislike you, I just don't have respect for you method of manipulation and manipulation in general. If you question what many of us see in you, just re-read the posts, I did, and it is clear what you are. A smile is only skin deep. Give it a rest and be what you are... that is genuine.

Remember, It's about sharing...

I've never denied the fact I want the market to fall.  And if you read my posts, I said in my "speculation" as a US citizen, this is going to be bad.  And it's going to be.  I guarantee it.  Now, you may not like to hear that.  That may frighten your bullish position but I have the right to my "speculations".  If you think its no big deal that the USG chose Homeland Security over the Dept. of Justice, then you really have no clue how things work in the US.  

So let me say this one last time for the cheap seats:  In my speculation, the value of Bitcoin is coming WAAAAAAYYYY down.  This is just the beginning.  You don't have to agree or like my view but don't call me disingenuous when I have been clear about my bearish stance.  

Additionally, this is a FREE MARKET.  Would you like to impose regulations on my opinions now because they might cause someone to sell?  Free markets are only free to those who want them to go their way?  Seems quite hypocritical.  The only thing disingenuous is your skewing of reality.  But that's your right.  I don't care what you think about me.  You don't know me.  I'm just some guy on a forum.  But the fact that I scare the hell out of you, means I must be doing something right.

Now let it go.  None of you scare me and I won't "tread lightly" because I'm not intimidated by peoples opinions.  Maybe you should search your own heart instead of trying to search mine.  And BTW-it's "suit" not "suite".  Can we get back on topic now or do you have last word syndrome too?

Please, don't come on here and try to justify your manipulation. Too many of us see through you and your kind. Be a wolf if that is what you are, but don't get all dressed up like a sheep.

I don't deny this may end bad, we all know we are in a big experiment, but don't jump over the crap you spew non stop and then try to justify civilized, all the while skipping over the FUD.

What is just the beginning? The price is going sideways and you keep talking this is just the beginning in so many threads. Do you not see your lies? We are in a volatile thing/market.

Free market. ehehehh, You are a great big liar and most of us see it. Hide behind your sheeps clothing my friend. It doesn't fool many of us. This is a thread about walls in the price and to a larger extent about the price and some TA. You are coming on and not taking a breather, just spewing more and more attacks. And then you pad them with "But I never hid the fact that I want the price to come down."  And as another poster said you speak opinions like they were facts. Manipulator.

I don't want to intimidate you. I want you to see that we see your lies. I wear my heart, I wish you could say the same. The scary thing is, if what you say is true, you believe your own lies.



TL;DR



Lets try this again:

sr. member
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I've never denied the fact I want the market to fall.  And if you read my posts, I said in my "speculation" as a US citizen, this is going to be bad.  And it's going to be.  I guarantee it.  Now, you may not like to hear that.  That may frighten your bullish position but I have the right to my "speculations".

Perhaps it would help if you wouldn't frame your 'speculations' as if they were hard facts. You think the market is going down, fine. You guarantee it? Uhmm no you can't, it's just your opinion.

I can frame my speculations anyway I please.  And you're free to take them any way want, just like you're free to hit the ignore button.  Which I recently found it pretty awesome...BTW

I also can guarantee anything I want.  I'll double down on it. I GUARANTEE THIS PRICE IS GOING TO DOUBLE DIGITS!  The USG is coming for their money and control and since they've brought in DHS, they can stop money flow in nearly any country they choose, just like any other terrorist organization.  Bitcoin just became Osama Bin Laden...doubt it, laugh at it, believe it, I don't care.  That's what I believe and that's all that matters.
hero member
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[FUD, claims of being genuine and a 'guarantee' the price is going to go WAAAY down]
Congratulations Coinseeker, you have just passed with flying colours the rigourous vetting required for membership of my exclusive 'Ignore Club' Smiley

Bye!
legendary
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Antifragile
Stop feeling the troll. Coinseeker is a retard. He's hoping the market goes down so he can buy back in. He's fourkey2001 2.0. Just click ignore, stop quoting him if you do reply, and move on. Pointing out he's wrong just makes he move onto some new FUD.

And here comes the name calling.  Ah...yes.  The height of supreme intelligence.  Roll Eyes  Not sure how wanting the price to drop makes me a bad person and certainly warrants being called names.  I guess you'd prefer there was a Bull section and a Bear section so you wouldn't have to read any posts contrary to your beliefs and opinions?  Segregationist?  

I get a real mixed message from you but the manipulative part is clear. It is the honest part that isn't so clear. You try to keep things professional with your words, sort of like a banker in a suite, but your message isn't exactly in line with your professionalism, sort of like a banker in a suite.  Shocked
For example, none of us had a full story regarding the DHS thing with Dwolla. Well, how can you come out and say things are heading down, this sounds real bad, etc? The most we can say is what the statement said, but you took that and created a whole story and gave every body an easy way out - sell.
You are showing your true agenda - you want the price of BTC down, whether or not it is for you to buy in lower we don't know. My guess is no, because being ingenuine in order to buy lower (by helping a panic sell to occur) is being ingenuine in the end. That is clearly not what BTC is about.

And yet you try to convey this image of being a good person. You bring up your wife and how you talk about those crazies on the forum. Hello... you are sort of one of them in many of our eyes. And again, it is because of this in-genuine odor you give off. Many won't bring it up to you for you on probably on ignore. Anyway, I don't dislike you, I just don't have respect for you method of manipulation and manipulation in general. If you question what many of us see in you, just re-read the posts, I did, and it is clear what you are. A smile is only skin deep. Give it a rest and be what you are... that is genuine.

Remember, It's about sharing...

I've never denied the fact I want the market to fall.  And if you read my posts, I said in my "speculation" as a US citizen, this is going to be bad.  And it's going to be.  I guarantee it.  Now, you may not like to hear that.  That may frighten your bullish position but I have the right to my "speculations".  If you think its no big deal that the USG chose Homeland Security over the Dept. of Justice, then you really have no clue how things work in the US.  

So let me say this one last time for the cheap seats:  In my speculation, the value of Bitcoin is coming WAAAAAAYYYY down.  This is just the beginning.  You don't have to agree or like my view but don't call me disingenuous when I have been clear about my bearish stance.  

Additionally, this is a FREE MARKET.  Would you like to impose regulations on my opinions now because they might cause someone to sell?  Free markets are only free to those who want them to go their way?  Seems quite hypocritical.  The only thing disingenuous is your skewing of reality.  But that's your right.  I don't care what you think about me.  You don't know me.  I'm just some guy on a forum.  But the fact that I scare the hell out of you, means I must be doing something right.

Now let it go.  None of you scare me and I won't "tread lightly" because I'm not intimidated by peoples opinions.  Maybe you should search your own heart instead of trying to search mine.  And BTW-it's "suit" not "suite".  Can we get back on topic now or do you have last word syndrome too?

Please, don't come on here and try to justify your manipulation. Too many of us see through you and your kind. Be a wolf if that is what you are, but don't get all dressed up like a sheep.

I don't deny this may end bad, we all know we are in a big experiment, but don't jump over the crap you spew non stop and then try to justify civilized, all the while skipping over the FUD.

What is just the beginning? The price is going sideways and you keep talking this is just the beginning in so many threads. Do you not see your lies? We are in a volatile thing/market.

Free market. ehehehh, You are a great big liar and most of us see it. Hide behind your sheeps clothing my friend. It doesn't fool many of us. This is a thread about walls in the price and to a larger extent about the price and some TA. You are coming on and not taking a breather, just spewing more and more attacks. And then you pad them with "But I never hid the fact that I want the price to come down."  And as another poster said you speak opinions like they were facts. Manipulator.

I don't want to intimidate you. I want you to see that we see your lies. I wear my heart, I wish you could say the same. The scary thing is, if what you say is true, you believe your own lies.

legendary
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shit I came too late,
what happened to nice stability, I don't want to search through last ten pages?
We had some bad news or just pumpndump?
could somebody give short feedback?
just read some dwollathingyproblem...

SWAT team smashed their way into Gox and knocked everyone off their rubber balls

legendary
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So let me say this one last time for the cheap seats:  In my speculation, the value of Bitcoin is coming WAAAAAAYYYY down.  This is just the beginning.  You don't have to agree or like my view but don't call me disingenuous when I have been clear about my bearish stance. 

I'd like to buy plenty of sub $50 coins too. I might be waiting a long time but I'm a patient kind of guy.

If there's a bull run before that then all the better, I'll jump aboard, ride the wave then dump it all when I think it's too oversold.
legendary
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I've never denied the fact I want the market to fall.  And if you read my posts, I said in my "speculation" as a US citizen, this is going to be bad.  And it's going to be.  I guarantee it.  Now, you may not like to hear that.  That may frighten your bullish position but I have the right to my "speculations".

Perhaps it would help if you wouldn't frame your 'speculations' as if they were hard facts. You think the market is going down, fine. You guarantee it? Uhmm no you can't, it's just your opinion.
legendary
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Antifragile
And yet you try to convey this image of being a good person. You bring up your wife and how you talk about those crazies on the forum. Hello... you are sort of one of them in many of our eyes. And again, it is because of this in-genuine odor you give off. Many won't bring it up to you for you on probably on ignore. Anyway, I don't dislike you, I just don't have respect for you method of manipulation and manipulation in general. If you question what many of us see in you, just re-read the posts, I did, and it is clear what you are. A smile is only skin deep. Give it a rest and be what you are... that is genuine.

Remember, It's about sharing...

It's greed. They are so greedy, they will come on the forum spamming bullshit trying to sucker people into selling. He actually posted that he figured out Bitcoin was ILLEGAL to use in "most countries". *lol* Funny how he just had that realization after a crash, when he admits he's hoping the price drops, says he'll buy back in when it does. As soon as someone points out he's being ridiculous, he moves onto another negative talking point.

When people sell all their BTC, they come here and scream the sky is falling. When they buy BTC, it's Mister Bull in the house.

I call it like I see it, he's spreading FUD, plain and simple. He's that greedy, he wants the market to drop that badly, he'll sit here for hours making stuff up. And if you check his quotes I re-posted, he is making stuff up.

Yeah, I guess greed is a big part of it. We reap what we sow though. It is just amazing to see someone smiling all the while stabbing others in the back. I am sure they know this, if not that is a psychopath. And I'm not name calling, I'm name finding and placing.

I think he and others reading his posts just need to be reminded, that is where we come in.  Grin



sr. member
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Stop feeling the troll. Coinseeker is a retard. He's hoping the market goes down so he can buy back in. He's fourkey2001 2.0. Just click ignore, stop quoting him if you do reply, and move on. Pointing out he's wrong just makes he move onto some new FUD.

And here comes the name calling.  Ah...yes.  The height of supreme intelligence.  Roll Eyes  Not sure how wanting the price to drop makes me a bad person and certainly warrants being called names.  I guess you'd prefer there was a Bull section and a Bear section so you wouldn't have to read any posts contrary to your beliefs and opinions?  Segregationist?  

I get a real mixed message from you but the manipulative part is clear. It is the honest part that isn't so clear. You try to keep things professional with your words, sort of like a banker in a suite, but your message isn't exactly in line with your professionalism, sort of like a banker in a suite.  Shocked
For example, none of us had a full story regarding the DHS thing with Dwolla. Well, how can you come out and say things are heading down, this sounds real bad, etc? The most we can say is what the statement said, but you took that and created a whole story and gave every body an easy way out - sell.
You are showing your true agenda - you want the price of BTC down, whether or not it is for you to buy in lower we don't know. My guess is no, because being ingenuine in order to buy lower (by helping a panic sell to occur) is being ingenuine in the end. That is clearly not what BTC is about.

And yet you try to convey this image of being a good person. You bring up your wife and how you talk about those crazies on the forum. Hello... you are sort of one of them in many of our eyes. And again, it is because of this in-genuine odor you give off. Many won't bring it up to you for you on probably on ignore. Anyway, I don't dislike you, I just don't have respect for you method of manipulation and manipulation in general. If you question what many of us see in you, just re-read the posts, I did, and it is clear what you are. A smile is only skin deep. Give it a rest and be what you are... that is genuine.

Remember, It's about sharing...

I've never denied the fact I want the market to fall.  And if you read my posts, I said in my "speculation" as a US citizen, this is going to be bad.  And it's going to be.  I guarantee it.  Now, you may not like to hear that.  That may frighten your bullish position but I have the right to my "speculations".  If you think its no big deal that the USG chose Homeland Security over the Dept. of Justice, then you really have no clue how things work in the US. 

So let me say this one last time for the cheap seats:  In my speculation, the value of Bitcoin is coming WAAAAAAYYYY down.  This is just the beginning.  You don't have to agree or like my view but don't call me disingenuous when I have been clear about my bearish stance. 

Additionally, this is a FREE MARKET.  Would you like to impose regulations on my opinions now because they might cause someone to sell?  Free markets are only free to those who want them to go their way?  Seems quite hypocritical.  The only thing disingenuous is your skewing of reality.  But that's your right.  I don't care what you think about me.  You don't know me.  I'm just some guy on a forum.  But the fact that I scare the hell out of you, means I must be doing something right.

Now let it go.  None of you scare me and I won't "tread lightly" because I'm not intimidated by peoples opinions.  Maybe you should search your own heart instead of trying to search mine.  And BTW-it's "suit" not "suite".  Can we get back on topic now or do you have last word syndrome too?
sr. member
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+1^^
Speculation vs Walls.
donator
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So 112 is the price of a Bitcoin or what?

We keep coming back to that, it seems to stick.
legendary
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I really should stop listening to all the doom and gloom talk in here, I sold some of my coins last night at $107 and had a new buy order set at $101. It didn't go that far down and I don't think it will soon so I've just bought my coins back at a net loss of 0.4 BTC. Could be worse I guess, hopefully it was worth the lesson I learned from it.
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And yet you try to convey this image of being a good person. You bring up your wife and how you talk about those crazies on the forum. Hello... you are sort of one of them in many of our eyes. And again, it is because of this in-genuine odor you give off. Many won't bring it up to you for you on probably on ignore. Anyway, I don't dislike you, I just don't have respect for you method of manipulation and manipulation in general. If you question what many of us see in you, just re-read the posts, I did, and it is clear what you are. A smile is only skin deep. Give it a rest and be what you are... that is genuine.

Remember, It's about sharing...

It's greed. They are so greedy, they will come on the forum spamming bullshit trying to sucker people into selling. He actually posted that he figured out Bitcoin was ILLEGAL to use in "most countries". *lol* Funny how he just had that realization after a crash, when he admits he's hoping the price drops, says he'll buy back in when it does. As soon as someone points out he's being ridiculous, he moves onto another negative talking point.

When people sell all their BTC, they come here and scream the sky is falling. When they buy BTC, it's Mister Bull in the house.

I call it like I see it, he's spreading FUD, plain and simple. He's that greedy, he wants the market to drop that badly, he'll sit here for hours making stuff up. And if you check his quotes I re-posted, he is making stuff up.
legendary
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Antifragile
Stop feeling the troll. Coinseeker is a retard. He's hoping the market goes down so he can buy back in. He's fourkey2001 2.0. Just click ignore, stop quoting him if you do reply, and move on. Pointing out he's wrong just makes he move onto some new FUD.

And here comes the name calling.  Ah...yes.  The height of supreme intelligence.  Roll Eyes  Not sure how wanting the price to drop makes me a bad person and certainly warrants being called names.  I guess you'd prefer there was a Bull section and a Bear section so you wouldn't have to read any posts contrary to your beliefs and opinions?  Segregationist?  

I get a real mixed message from you but the manipulative part is clear. It is the honest part that isn't so clear. You try to keep things professional with your words, sort of like a banker in a suite, but your message isn't exactly in line with your professionalism, sort of like a banker in a suite.  Shocked
For example, none of us had a full story regarding the DHS thing with Dwolla. Well, how can you come out and say things are heading down, this sounds real bad, etc? The most we can say is what the statement said, but you took that and created a whole story and gave every body an easy way out - sell.
You are showing your true agenda - you want the price of BTC down, whether or not it is for you to buy in lower we don't know. My guess is no, because being ingenuine in order to buy lower (by helping a panic sell to occur) is being ingenuine in the end. That is clearly not what BTC is about.

And yet you try to convey this image of being a good person. You bring up your wife and how you talk about those crazies on the forum. Hello... you are sort of one of them in many of our eyes. And again, it is because of this in-genuine odor you give off. Many won't bring it up to you for you on probably on ignore. Anyway, I don't dislike you, I just don't have respect for you method of manipulation and manipulation in general. If you question what many of us see in you, just re-read the posts, I did, and it is clear what you are. A smile is only skin deep. Give it a rest and be what you are... that is genuine.

Remember, It's about sharing...
hero member
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Anyway, a bit of perspective...



Wasn't really even a blip, was it? Much less deep, although admittedly much less decisive than the blockchain fork even in March.

This plateau we've been experiencing actually reminds me a lot of that time, just on a slightly longer timescale.

The price could admittedly do anything, but as time goes on, a continuing crash does appear to be increasingly unlikely. Even if volume is weak and we hold at around $110 - $115 for another couple of weeks, any downtrend will be pretty much broken.



It could be moving further under the long term trendline by staying still.

If it stays at this price for too long that trendline will be invalidated.
Sorry, I'm in a picky mood today but if a trendline shows what has been how can it be 'invalidated'?  Given that no trendline goes on forever surely the trendline just shows what was going on up until the point the price went outside of it, at which point it no longer applies past that point.

If on the other hand a trendline is being used to predict future then I'm afraid my TA-sceptic stance is that it is invalid even when market prices with time happen to fall within it.  Just my thoughts on the matter Smiley
hero member
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The one thing I've noticed concerning this issue is that it is almost like Bitfloor even though the circumstance is different.The freezing of assets in some form in the US is not really a good thing for acceptance.It makes me wonder how Coinlabs would have survived if it had opened for business.
copper member
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It is a lucrative investment, I must say.  Wink


On a related note... how the hell did we not pass below $100?
$102.96 is a little... anticlimatic.

you seem smart... you should review the patterns... 55, 79, 103... We are crashing up dude! sorry but you won't see coins at lower prices... sad you missed the boat tho... I think you can jump in now and maybe in two years you'll see rewards Smiley
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Stop feeling the troll. Coinseeker is a retard. He's hoping the market goes down so he can buy back in. He's fourkey2001 2.0. Just click ignore, stop quoting him if you do reply, and move on. Pointing out he's wrong just makes he move onto some new FUD.

And here comes the name calling.  Ah...yes.  The height of supreme intelligence.  Roll Eyes  Not sure how wanting the price to drop makes me a bad person and certainly warrants being called names.  I guess you'd prefer there was a Bull section and a Bear section so you wouldn't have to read any posts contrary to your beliefs and opinions?  Segregationist?  

Wanting the price to drop? You're trying to make the price drop by spreading FUD. You're pulling shit out of your ass that has no basis in reality, you're scrambling for negative talking points, and as I said before, you're clearly autistic. Since you're in denial, here's a quick recap.

-The only reason the prices have reached +100...is because of speculative greed.  Nothing more, nothing less.

-Definitely not over.  It's just beginning.  Interesting to see how many coins the manipulators, who are trying to prop things up, are willing to lose. 

-Using Homeland Secuity, also means the U.S. could theoretically have a drone hovering over MtGox by morning.

-Momentum is too strong.  Double digits...here we come.  Buckle up!

-You'll see sub 100 in the next couple hours or so.  Maybe less.  Especially as people who don't sit and watch this forum or the markets get home and realize they are losing big $$$ and are caught in a firestorm.

-I think it's a virtual currency and I've been tell ya'll this was going to happen but you're blinded by ideology

-The biggest piece most of you fail to see and even I didn't see this coming, was they used Homeland security, NOT, the Justice Dept.  Homeland security has all kinds of freedoms to do whatever they want in the name of "fighting terror."  This is really bad...

-This is a STATEMENT from the US Government to Bitcoin.  My advice being a US citizen and knowing the reach of the USG...Sell NOW or forever hold your piece.  This is going to get worse as the news reaches mainstream media.  By then, it will be too late.

-Coinage Act of 1965, Section 102 states: “All coins and currencies of the United States (including Federal Reserve notes and circulating notes of Federal Reserve banks and national banking associations), regardless of when coined or issued, shall be legal tender for all debts, public and private, public charges, taxes, duties, and dues.” Only United States currencies (including Federal Reserve Notes) are currently legal tender in the US. Keyword being LEGAL tender. 

-If you're not paying taxes on those transactions, it's illegal.  That's cut and dry.

-that means you have to define BTC as an actual currency and using an alternate currency is against the law in the US.

-sending anonymous payments to anonymous users, tax free, and/or using an alternate currency within those borders is absolutely a violation of law. 

-All they have to do is block the flow of fiat in and out, and BTC's becomes worthless.  How some people are waking up trying to hold on to these delusions is simply amazing.  I call it denial.

-I hope DHS rains fire in the morning.  Cheap coins for all!

-a business can not accept a foriegn currency.  It can only deal in US legal tender.  It's not illegal to possess them, but to spend them in the US, on US goods and services is a clear violation of US policy.

My favorite was when you brought up the Coinage Act of 1965. We get it, you're waiting to buy back in. You don't have to spam the forum going all negative nancy. You want cheap coins, that's cool. Bitcoin is going to crash, we get it. Kindly STFU now.
hero member
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...Bitcoin transactions that avoid paying applicable taxes are in fact illegal...
All transactions that avoid paying applicable taxes are illegal.  What's that got to do with Bitcoin?

To be more accurate, all transactions MAY require you to report the income/loss from that transaction, annually. Technically, if your baseball card increases in value from $1 to $1,000 and you realize that value in a sale, then that's reportable income. Bitcoin is no different. (USA)
From what I understand, whether it gets reported as 'income' or as a 'capital gain' may depend on your jurisdiction.  My accountant's advice in the UK to me is that it becomes taxable as a capital gain only if and when the realised gain is more than £10,000 p/a.  Of course this may change because as Coinseeker correctly says it is still a gray area.
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