Topic: War: who benefits and how! - page 12. (Read 1849 times)

Simple to answer this we can have two approaches to understanding one is from the Country wise and one is from the industry wise so to maintain the ethical way we are going general using a named entity.

There are different types of entities in the world one who Lives by Selling Food products, Some sell Oil and some Sell Factory Products and Some Sell their Tourism services as these are major services that make them survive in the same world there are some entities who created a necessary thing on the name of peace called weapons so in War who is in benefit the entity simple as they Dominate to Servive (To Live better). For a common example let's consider Ukraine vs Russia's recent Incidents EU countries provided $25B in Funding (Which is more likely a Loan based offer to Ukraine to fight Russia) not financially. They provided this amount in the form of weapons that they will offer them $25B weapons on loan.

Further, as this example is based on the local Journalist report I am not sure about the authenticity but this is reality and this happens because people don't have money to eat and they desperately buy weapons on loan I consider my country as well in this.

It is possible, for example, at the expense of the state budget to restore the destroyed city on the frontline territory. 

And then an unexpected event will happen - the enemy will suddenly go on the offensive and destroy this city again. 

And no one will know that this city was not restored, and the funds allocated for restoration were simply stolen. 

During the war, interested persons can easily carry out such financial schemes and enrich themselves on this.  During the military confusion, no one can prevent them from doing this.

North African countries are benefiting coz it seems like they get the cheapest Russian oil and then sell it to European countries 3x its price. That's a huge gain for them.

They need to make more money, after all, it's the best they can do while the EU keeps sanctioning Russia. While Russia also benefits from taking more land from Ukraine. I don't think the regions are going back to Ukraine and will be on the table once the minds cool down and are ready for peace negotiation.

Average person never benefits from war, in fact, he becomes cannon-fodder. Elites, billionaires, these people profit a lot, even from war. While it looks like the country is suffering and people are having less money, these billionaires still benefit because everything you spend money on, belongs to them. They increase prices, you pay more, they pay less, you work harder.
Different companies profit from different situations. During Pandemic, doctors and pharma companies were profiting a lot, during this war, gas and some other companies are profiting the most but elites definitely are profiting always.
I believe what we see outside isn't the only thing that happens at the moment. It's known that a lot of money is laundered during the war.

War is also use to create peace. There are somethings that political leaders do in the society can be solved only war. Like Nigeria, it is only war can solve the present scenario in the country because the court who's supposed be the last hope for common man is also part of the oppressing class. War is absent of peace. In war people and countries benefits from it. Small scale businesses also benefits from war. Manufacturers benefits from war. But those countries that produce gun or weapons are the ones benefits more and also food stuff. Those dealers that deal on food stuffs to the conflicting parties also benefits from it. Land acquisition from owners by the opposition party. In war different people persons benefits differently.

There are many beneficiaries to war. The people who sell weapons to the countries in crisis, the government of supporting nations that give financial aid to the countries in crisis as they can find a way to laundered money through it. The leaders of the countries that receive the funding that may just decide to keep engaging in the crisis because they are receiving massive financial aid and support, they can embezzle funds without many scrutiny. Pharmaceutical companies that sell drugs and companies that sell relief items are beneficiaries too.

There's money to be made in these types of conflict. Just right now, Russia's barring of oil on opposing countries surged its price and had made it even more valuable in the public market, not to mention the fact that there's the weapons dealership too, as well as other points of profit that entities use and abuse in times of crisis. Ultimately, in the case of Russia's war against Ukraine, which was done for the sole purpose of invading and absorbing the latter's territory for its resources and access to other geo-political factors, the prize here comes in the form of Ukraine. Never mind the lives lost, or the lives devastated by this conflict (I'm being sarcastic), land's more valuable than people's lives anyway.

Arms dealers are the most obvious beneficiaries from wars but they are not really the ones that earn the most, after a war at a country a great deal of effort is needed to get it back to its previous level of development, and for that money is needed, however that money comes with conditions which benefits whoever is lending that money, so bankers and investors will earn the most out of this after the war is over, and I hope the war is over as soon as possible so the people from Ukraine can start to rebuild their lives.

I read that the market for the sale of weapons is very small in terms of capitalization when compared with other global markets (for example, the market for oil, natural gas, grain, etc.)

Therefore, it is not arms sellers who receive the main benefits from the war (although of course they also earn very  big money).  Weapons rather play a role in the capture of new territories rich in minerals. 

If, for example, the United States were not such a militarily strong state, then the US dollar would hardly have become the world's reserve currency. 

However, the war itself is destructive and has catastrophic consequences.

In every war there is someone who is getting benefited all the time. For example, US is supplying the war material to Ukraine and its their future investments. When war will be over and country is free, US will start asking for returns from the Ukraine. It could be either in the form of monetary refunds with interest or it could be geo settlements between the two and much more. Similarly there are countries who are standing by Russia, for example India who is already getting benefits of discounted oil and thus building the long term relationships already. Who knows if India and some other country like China goes into war then they could have biggest support from them.

That type of trend is going on when war breaks out and that's how countries will start forming alliances with each other. The real payback always comes after the dust is settled.

Not every enterprise turns out to be profitable, and in many cases everyone loses, more or less, it's just that some gather political influence as a side effect of their actions, perhaps. That's how the US really became a prominent country after WW2, while France because way less powerful than it used to be. But it doesn't mean that the war was beneficial for Germany, the USA, the Soviet Union of anyone else. It was a huge tragedy, dozens of millions lives were lost, but the evil of Nazism had to be stopped no matter the cost. The USA gained political influence and probably money as well, but the war wasn't beneficial overall. In the Russo-Ukrainian war, everyone is losing and some might gain due to side effects if the war ends as it should, with Ukraine's victory. Ukraine would certainly gain a lot from defeating Russia, becoming a widely recognized political regional player rather than a country most can't even point to on the map and have no idea how big it is. But that doesn't mean Ukraine is benefiting from the war, as Ukraine is also suffering from it immensely and would of course prefer not to be invaded by Russia and remain of a lower political significance and with fewer weapons. The UK is gaining political influence which it lost over the last few decades by being a major ally of Ukraine and thus showing that it can still do things that matter internationally, despite not being that huge empire it used to be and not even being a part of the EU. Russia, I'm sure, wanted to gain a lot politically by conquering Ukraine because somebody is still not over the end of the Soviet Union and thinks that Kyiv should be their major city, while Ukraine is a 'fictional' state that should not exist. Analyzing potential gains isn't always helpful to determine what's going on and how it will go.

Most of the military countries monopolize the manufacture of weapons, and it is not possible for private companies to obtain licenses to manufacture any type of weapons.  These countries monopolize the industry, since its production is mainly for defense purposes, or it is sold on the global market.  In general, this country does not push towards wars, and the military industry is not one of the components of its economy. 
In other countries, private companies monopolize the arms industry, and since financial profit is their primary goal, they are pushing with all their efforts towards concluding more deals with potential customers.  These companies interfere in the political decision and do not care whether their customers are regular armies or armed groups.

Producers of oil and natural gas benefited from the war. 

Oil and natural gas prices rose, resulting in windfall profits for oil and gas companies.  Organizers of maritime tanker shipments also received super-profits - Russia now carries its oil to India and China.  Sea transportation takes several weeks. 

The governments of these countries also benefited from the war, as they received additional taxes to the budget. 

Benefits were received by the countries to which qualified engineers, programmers, designers from Russia emigrated (these people left their country after the announcement of partial mobilization in it).

I support no one in the war between Russia and Ukraine and all the wars going on in the world, war is a crime. But to say who benefits in this war, it is clear that the arms dealers are the ones who benefit the most, the longer the war lasted, the more weapons they sold. Not to mention like the news I read, the Ukrainian battlefield is also a place for great powers to test new weapons as well as flaunt their strength to sell more weapons.

I hope there will be a miracle, a country can come out to end the war, the war not only hurts the people of the two countries but also affects the whole world.

Any war has its beneficiaries. What Russia stands to gain is what Ukraine doesn't want to loose, hence why the war keeps mounting.
Other known beneficiaries are those who manufactures these weapons and ammunition. Those who provide medical assistance and supply medical equipment and relief materials also benefit because they represent bodies with a godly front  but with hidden agenda.
No doubt Ukraine has suffered more including its surrounding nations, because it has had to defend its lands and structures. The battle effect would be felt generations to come. Russia on the other hand still has its major cities bubbling with little as much as no attack from the Ukrainian forces.
The countries who stand aside and observe like China and india also benefit because they have taken advantage of the trade pact and have its allies ready.

1. Calculate the volume of Russia's losses from the loss of the EU oil and gas market, and compare this with the gain from the sale of nuclear fuel. Moreover, in the EU, stations do not use TVEL fuel cells from Russia. And the EU did not launch their nuclear power plants, but replaced gas suppliers
2. Speaking of "benefits" - do not forget about the tens of thousands of dead Ukrainians. Many died a terrible death having experienced before this inhuman torture from the invaders.
Do not forget about the millions of people who lost everything they had - seven, houses, cars, savings, FUTURE!
3. Speaking of benefits - don't forget about the destroyed cities of Ukraine. They were physically destroyed and razed to the ground by the invaders. About thousands of villages - which can no longer be restored. About thousands of hectares of land that needs to be cleared.

And I have listed only the tip of the iceberg of the evil that Russia brought to Ukraine

Sectors in Russia benefited from the war, and stopping the import of Russian gas made more European countries switch to nuclear energy, and Russia controls an estimated percentage of nuclear fuel, as Rosatom's sales increased by more than 20% from the beginning of the war.
Source: https://intellinews.com/rosatom-s-nuclear-exports-surge-in-2022-270128/

Both India and China benefited from the war by buying Russian oil and gas and other Russian products at a low price compared to the world price, which gives competitive quality.

Ukraine benefited from the war, as it received aid estimated at more than 3 times its budget for the year 2022.
The United States benefited from the war, especially oil and arms producers, who made huge billions due to high prices and increased demand.
Arms companies also benefited in some European countries.

You are quite mistaken.
1. This war has been going on for more than 1 year. Russia attacked Ukraine back in 2014. Occupied part of the territory of Ukraine. This is the annexation of the Autonomous Republic of Crimea, this is the capture and organization of a puppet separatist government in two sewers - the DPR and the LPR
2. This is not a war between Ukraine and Russia. It is Ukraine that defends its country, its people and its territory from an aggressor country. Which by the way acted as a guarantor of the inviolability of the territory of Ukraine, according to the Budapest Memorandum, when Ukraine abandoned its nuclear weapons. At the time of Ukraine's refusal of nuclear weapons, Ukraine had the third largest arsenal of nuclear weapons in the world, after the United States and Russia.
3. Everything that is happening now in the world is a manifestation of Russian aggression against Ukraine. And then also economic terror against the EU.

The United States did not unleash this war and it is not the cause of it. It's all about the imperial ambitions of Putin, who wanted to go down in history as a collector of the lands of the former USSR, and possibly not only them, and the aggressive nature of the Russian mentality, which constantly needs aggressive wars to assert itself about the greatness of Russia. Also, one of the main reasons for Russia's attack on Ukraine is the desire to assign its history to Kievan Rus, starting from the 9th century, the fertile lands of Ukraine, a good industrial potential and hardworking Ukrainians. Without the history of Kievan Rus, the history of Russia looks very poor, even the territory of Moscow in the 13th century was the patrimony of one of the princes of this powerful state, and it turns out that Ukraine has the right to claim most of today's Russia, and not Russia to Ukraine. It even stole its name from Kievan Rus, because until the beginning of the 18th century it was called Muscovy or the Moscow kingdom.

Putin and his intelligence underestimated the professionalism of the Ukrainian army and the desire of its people for freedom and freedom. It was hoped that the resistance would be as flimsy as in 2014, when Russia first attacked Ukraine, seizing the Crimean peninsula, as well as part of the Donetsk and Luhansk regions. Therefore, on February 24, 2022, the Russian 200,000-strong invasion army was tasked to approach the outskirts of Kyiv on the same day by 15:00. The invaders have not fulfilled this task to this day. Now in Russia they say that Ukraine deceived them by pretending to be weak and defenseless. Strange justification for military aggression.

As for the benefits, the military weakening of Russia is certainly beneficial to the United States and other NATO countries. But even they underestimated the ability to defend Ukraine against Russia and gave Ukraine a maximum of seven days. That is why they did not give Ukraine heavy weapons on the eve of the attack, because they could have been seized by the Russian invaders. They gave only stingers and javelins for conducting guerrilla warfare under occupation. Help in more and more powerful weapons came from them only as the defeat of Russian troops in Ukraine and the brilliant conduct of military operations by the Armed Forces of Ukraine.

NATO has been preparing for a long time for a possible military confrontation with the USSR, and then with Russia. Now it is performing its main tasks with the hands of Ukrainians and they are amazed at how they are beating the "second army of the world", which all NATO countries were afraid of together.

I think national pride is part of other major reasons as to why the both warring factions have refused to wave a white flag on this war. Non wants to be seen as weak against the other but while this pride grows their citizens diminishes in number and strength. And other instigators of this war based on what you @livingfree have highlighted in your first statement, those that supplies weapons of war and others war aiding supplies are just underground behind the cotton heating up the polity continuously. And it's really crazy that humans don't care anymore about fellow humans dieing as long as they're making their money out of it.