Topic: War: who benefits and how! - page 5. (Read 1865 times)

There are many scenario of war we can take as an example and put into consideration in using them as a case study, we have the Vietnam war, Afghanistan war, world war III and even the Russia and Ukraine war which is the ongoing one currently, what has come to the the end of it is nothing than a big casualty and loss of lives, but after every successful war comes in peace and serenity, it makes things go well after the restoration of peace.

As far as I know, Russia has also seized a lot of investment from European companies inside Russia. Many large corporations have run in to billions of USD worth of losses each. Anyway, Russia has indirectly benefitted from the war. The price of LNG, thermal coal, wheat and sunflower oil went up steeply as a result of the war and Russian exporters have made large profits as a result of this. Also, the Russian Ruble has got devalued by more than 30% over the last 12 months. This has also helped the exporters to make even larger profits.

Russia does not want security for its sovereignty, but seeks to seize the territory of Ukraine with its huge material and human resources. The fact that she attacked Ukraine because Ukraine does want to join NATO is one of the inventions of Russian propaganda in order to somehow justify the usual war of conquest in the 21st century. An example of this is Lithuania, Latvia and Estonia, which have long joined NATO, which are located near the immediate border with Russia and Finland recently joined NATO, as a result of which the total length of the border with NATO members has increased by more than 1,300 kilometers. Russia does not attack these states.

The West has seized Russia's reserve, so Russia is seizing the eastern regions of Ukraine? Have you messed up the order here? Russia took over eastern parts of Ukraine back in 2014, and $300 billion of Russia's reserves in foreign banks were blocked after Russia's full-scale invasion last February.

Both parties are justifying how they don't end the war so far. The West wants to rule the world and Russia wants the security of its sovereignty. And the West seized Russia's reserve so Russia grabs the eastern regions of Ukraine. They both are benefiting though and only Ukraine is lost by far.

This war is spilling over already and China vs Taiwan is the next as if the crisis is not enough. Taiwan is supported by the West. I get the feeling that this is all just a play that eventually China unifies Taiwan and we the people are just being played.

If there will be a beneficiary of war it is the terrorist who always wanted a war because of thier wrong belief they are always happy to kill and to make everyone suffer or cry they are demons, but if you will say there is a country who benefit in war i think there is nothing, if you are a president in one country and you will see countryman's dying because of war even if you win on that war you will consider as a loser because of the life's that is wasted because of the war. So as long as we can avoid war lets avoid it for good, war is not a solution it is another problem to be solve.

When a war is going on, of course, countries that often produce weapons will take advantage of the opportunity and that is a very natural thing because opportunities that can be used to gain profits, obviously, will never be ignored. But in general, war always causes bad things for the world economy because every company that frequently moves around the world will definitely be very disturbed by this.

There is no wise person on earth that will ever pray for a war to elapsed especially a successful business type because in time of war there is no peace of mind
Even if it will be of favour to the arm dealers like they said on the other hand they won't find it happily to spend there money because there is controversy everywhere which we all know will collapsed business operations and even up to transportation aspect that world will be filled with riot people living in fears let give peace and chance because war is not a choice

To the people's eye, that's how it is. But if you dive deep into it. Only then you can find the true motive of the USA and NATO. They are helping, but in the process, they are the one getting all the benefits. This is how their politics works, and they use strategy to stay in power.
To regular people, they are helping someone in need. But their true motive is always personal gains. Don't you agree that USA possess the best technology and weapons? Are they not capable of ending this war? Then why they are not providing that and ending this? Of course they have some other personal agenda behind it.
This is how they manipulate the world and keep holding the majority of the "power". 

Depending the intensity and magnitude of the war there can be devastating consequences for the entire world, however, if it's just a concentrated conflict, I think some nations can be really benefited from it, as you pointed out the geopolitical impact when expading influence and having access to human and natural resources.

It's also noticiable that in war times technology advances much more expressively and specialists work with much more effort on their respective fields. Moreover, the winner takes it all, including topnotch scientists and technology from the defeated country or alliance.

Yes, that's right, arms dealers and arms manufacturers who supply arms and ammunition to warring parties, Apart from that I think some countries may benefit from the geopolitical impact of war expanding their influence or gaining access to resources but I think the benefits of war are often short lived and can outweigh the costs in the long run. Economic and human casualties of war can have lasting consequences, including political instability, social unrest, and economic disruption.

The Russian threat to use nuclear weapons after turning Belarus into a nuclear military target, and the adoption of a law punishing 25 years for deserters from military service, are all indications that Russia is going through difficult times to cope with the conflict in Ukraine, which has become certain that Russia did not expect to be involved in it in this way. .
The same signs can be seen on the economic side, since Russia is forced to sell its products at less than half the world price to cover the costs of the war. Recently, after being convinced that abandoning the European market is a real disaster without alternatives, it has chosen a partnership with Turkey to distribute its products to global markets again.

The idea is absolutely correct, but there are nuances. There are two of them:
1. Conscience
2. Sanctions
Conscience is about what can and should be supplied to those who are weak and are under the threat of terror.
Sanctions are about the fact that not everyone who wants and can actually trade "for any side" ...

A good example is Egypt. The country has historically always been "under the supervision of the USSR / Russia." The year 2022 came, the "second army of the world" began to shamefully lose and began to beg Egypt to start producing and supplying weapons to Russia. Egypt is smart, and understands how it will all end, and then to be in the "dock" as an accomplice of international terrorism - did not want to, which is logical! And Egypt agreed to start producing weapons for..Ukraine! For which the people and the government of Egypt are very grateful and respected!

The first people to profit from conflicts are the companies who make weapons or other military hardware. A nation at war will spend anything to acquire weaponry to protect their territory and win the conflict. The conflict's backers also profit because they would profit from their investment through unfair trade agreements after the war. Corrupt government officials enjoy conflict because it gives them a perfect chance to plunder the nation's riches, as was the case in Ukraine. The fact that unscrupulous Ukrainian government officials have inflated contracts to benefit themselves is public knowledge. Russia and corruption are the two battles that Ukraine is currently engaged in.

I am not an expert but I assume there have been companies that own weapons and ammunition factories around Europe, USA or even in China which probably are having a good time since this invasion started against the Ukrainian people, after all, there are already rumors and informs from the USA-Ukranian side that they are running low in ammo which only means that manufacturers will get more money to increase their production and the owners of such factories can pocket a good money our of this situation.

They may not even be interested in the specific situation of the war, but like the extra work they are getting to do for both factions. 

In principle, we can agree with your opinion. The military assistance provided to Ukraine is untimely and insufficient. At first, Ukraine was helped only by Javelins and Stingers. This, in fact, is a light portable weapon for conducting partisan struggle in the conditions of the occupation of Ukrainian territories by Russia. Because no one, including in the United States, believed that Ukraine would be able to resist Russia for a long time.

Heavy armored vehicles began to arrive at the beginning of this year, and then in very small batches. Moreover, long-range weapons and ammunition are not provided to Ukraine so far. This indicates that the US and NATO want, most likely, to weaken Russia as much as possible militarily and economically, but not completely destroy it, through the hands of the Ukrainians. In such a situation, Ukraine will suffer great material and human losses. The situation is saved only by the courage and professionalism of the Armed Forces of Ukraine.

It is also true that Ukraine received working weapons, mostly of Soviet production. But there are many objective reasons here, since the provision of weapons is late, but they are very much needed at the front. Therefore, they give what is familiar to the Ukrainian military. This is also beneficial for the countries of Europe, because instead of the old Soviet weapons they receive new NATO ones.

But Ukraine is already grateful for the assistance rendered to it. Without it, it would be very difficult to resist Russia.

War never brings anything good which only brings destruction. The crisis created by the war between Ukraine and Russia has made life difficult for people. There is nothing to gain by this war. Rather, people are constantly losing their lives, houses and agricultural lands are being destroyed. It has no positive site. But some are speculating that two major countries are taking advantage of this ongoing war namely China and India. Who are buying fuel from Russia in cheap price. But the people of most countries are suffering greatly. From my point of view both countries have to be flexible or this war will not end.

The one who provides so-called "help". In the current Russia-Ukraine war, the USA is only providing that much of the weapon which is necessary for them to keep fighting and survive. Not to win the war. Because if they offer them all the resources, they will become a trained force with advanced weapons, which is also will become a threat to NATO. They will become a deadly threat to any other country or system.
That's why most of the weapon provided by the USA is failing too. They are just providing the mostly working weapons. On the other hand, Russia is buying back the sold weapons from China.
If we connect the dots, China and USA are the ones benefitting from this kind of situation.

There is no winner in war, war is just a kind of devastation, no one benefits on it, it can make the life more miserable specially when you are in a country that involves on it. Leaders knows what's best for the country but sometimes they are also greedy, they are humans and they can also make a wrong decision and we suffers from thier mistakes. So for me always no to war if we can talk the issue in a good way.

Agreed, in addition, the people who experience the war especially civilians would really suffer some psychological trauma that I think would greatly affect the mental health of these people. Also, we cannot deny that when a country becomes the war zone area, the existing buildings and landscape will be damage that would just only constitute to costs when the war is over. Therefore, it is indeed that no one would have benefits from these wars.

When times are good, the rich prosper, when times are bad - they make a lot more money provided they have even the most basic investment plan. As we see, military industrial companies have made a huge swing back in the last year since the Russian invasion of Ukraine. Business had died off substantially, especially with the withdrawal of forces from places like Afghanistan and military budgets falling due to the perceived stability in the world. Oil and energy companies have also profited hugely off the more restricted sources available. However there have definitely been many losers in this scenario, like any foods that rely on grains because Ukraine and Russia supplied huge amounts into the world foodchain.