Topic: War: who benefits and how! - page 4. (Read 1865 times)

Of course, the country that wins will benefit because they have achieved their goal. But the winners are not the ones who benefit the most because once the war happens, it does some damage to the country. Meanwhile, many countries do not directly participate in the war but always provoke, find ways to prolong the war, and sell weapons. Those are the biggest beneficiaries of the war.

The world economy is affected by the war, but not everyone will be affected, many politicians benefit from many things, and only the people bear the burden, but they will not care about us.

What benefits from the war are the victorious countries and their allies, while the losses from the war are larger in scale than the gains.
that is why the entire world economy will be affected by the war.

The problem between China and Taiwan seems to have been going on for a long time, since 1949 when it decided not to join China. if indeed China wants to immediately control Taiwan it can be ascertained that it will do so from the beginning of the secession but it is not carried out and only ceremonially that it will do so at every opportunity when Taiwan continues to be in touch with the USA, after that nothing will happen.
so I assume that China has no intention at all to intervene in Taiwan because of something that is difficult to disclose.

The winner would be the CEO of those companies that supply weapons, maybe the country that is supporting from behind the scenes will have their interests taken care of during and after the war. Imo these two are the only real winners in war, the best example to visualize the real beneficiary of war is probably the main antagonist in Far Cry 2, the Jackal a war profiteer.

I have heard all sorts of nonsense that the Kremlin speaks about the goals of their military invasion of Ukraine. However, Putin and his entourage have not yet heard of the seizure of foreign territory as a "humanitarian" mission. Putin unleashed a classic war of conquest in Ukraine. This is clearly and obviously visible, therefore there are constantly, even in the second year of the war, the goals of this war are changing. This is also facilitated by the military defeat of the Russian troops in Ukraine, and Putin has to twist and invent new goals, why he climbed into Ukraine, so that in case of a complete failure he would somehow explain that the set goals were achieved.

After a significant part of the civilian population of the occupied territories of Ukraine was destroyed during the "liberation", and the civilian infrastructure and housing stock in many cases were destroyed by 90 percent, Russia will certainly have to carry out a humanitarian mission in the occupied territories and invest large amounts of subsidies in them so that the situation does not turn out to be absolutely catastrophic.

The maintenance of the Ukrainian regions captured by Russia will cost the Russian budget 410.7 billion rubles. Russia will allocate this amount for subsidies to the occupied territories of Donetsk, Lugansk, Kherson and Zaporozhye regions in 2023. Subsidies will amount to almost 90% of the total income of the annexed Ukrainian territories. It is they who will receive the largest share of subsidies from the Russian budget - even more than Ingushetia (82%), Chechnya (about 80%) and Tyva (about 79%).

Moreover, the so-called DPR will become the most subsidized region in Russia - if the total income of the occupied Ukrainian region is 196.4 billion rubles, then 171.1 billion rubles will be subsidies. 162 billion rubles will be allocated to Crimea annexed in 2014. The revenues of the budget of the so-called LPR for the year will amount to 134.6 billion rubles, of which 113.3 billion rubles are subsidies. The total income of the occupied part

In percentage terms, the largest subsidies will be required for the captured regions of Zaporozhye and Kherson regions. The budget of the Zaporozhye region will amount to 68.5 billion rubles, and 65.2 of them will come from the federal budget. And 61 billion will be financed by the Kherson region, the budget of which will be 61.8 billion rubles.

It could be that there are benefits, it's just that maybe not everyone knows from which direction the country can benefit after supplying war equipment. But in general it is difficult to gain any advantage in a conflict situation because the better advantage is always in a peaceful condition and it is definitely not when the country is at war.

Conditions of conflict are indeed not good conditions so that any damage will always exist and will also affect conditions of political, economic and educational stability because these three factors can only run more stably in peaceful conditions. And apart from that, what you say is also true because war can trigger damage to infrastructure and natural resources that are often used by citizens to earn a living. So it is clear that nothing good can be expected when the country is experiencing war conflict.

I haven't thought about the Taiwan and China issue because I don't think it will happen even though news about them is regularly published in the media. Because in my opinion, it is not in their favor for China to join the war right now because their goal is not only to unify Taiwan, but they also want to become the number one power in the world. So getting into war at this point is not entirely in their favor. China is not like Russia, they are more greedy and want more things.

Both sides will try to use the media to promote their interests. I cannot admit that everything broadcast by the media should not be believed, since most of them are biased in one way or another to one of the two parties to the conflict, given that the largest media platforms are located in the Western countries allied to Ukraine. Russia, in turn, is trying to use the media to promote itself as an important military power in the world, while emphasizing that its mission in Ukraine is "humanitarian." There are a few media platforms that publish the news with the greatest degree of impartiality, but unfortunately they are not available to everyone, since they are small platforms or published in a local language that not everyone understands. I have been following news on one of the sites from an African country for some time, using machine translation, and I can say that it is fair in conveying international news from its sources without trying to influence the viewer.

Russia in the war against Ukraine has already lost over 185,000 of its servicemen only killed, several times more wounded, more than 24,000 various military equipment have been destroyed. International sanctions have also been putting pressure on it very well lately. At the same time, Russia cannot become stronger, this is obvious. The Russian cadre army is almost completely defeated in Ukraine. And those mobilized with old equipment will no longer save the situation. Therefore, the capture of Ukraine will remain only a dream for the Kremlin.

I think that the main hostilities in this war will end this year and Russia will lose in it. It will end in disaster for her. Therefore, the outcome of the war is unlikely to be significantly influenced by the US presidential election next year. As for Trump, after being charged with a felony, he may not even be elected as a presidential candidate.

As they were saying that democratic relations are facades made to fool the public, while they are shaking their hands in front of everyone they are secretly stomping each other's foot. That is how I view the political relationships between different countries nowadays. Imagine those big nations spending billions of billions just to get those natural resources resorting to whatever method they could think of while neglecting millions of lives living on that country. Money is more important to them compared to manpower and lives since the more money you have the more influence you can exert in the world economy.

Still I don't agree with this non-ending squable they're getting just to get what they wanted. The future is really bleak for those living in third world countries. It feels like we are treated like rats waiting to be used as experiments. Every war history worldwide is like this as always, true to the saying "history repeats itself".

I think a proper solution to all these problems can be on the results of the 2024 elections in America. If the Trump administration comes to power, there will be a big change in the image of the world politics, Biden administration's different initiatives are not supported by many Americans. It is also possible that both of the leaders may change in 2024 election. But before the election we can not expect any change especially Ukraine- Russia war. This war is gradually getting more and more widespread, resulting in massive losses.

Well, if it is the opposite of what the media is saying, then I would be scared as Russia is getting powerful. For sure, Russia won't stop until they already got Ukraine, and you know that they are just getting donations from all over the world; this fight is among all countries. What scares me most is the Taiwan vs. China conflict because we are near it and there is the possibility that we will get into battle when we should not be there. Only those leaders benefit from it, and the people suffer.

This are entirely true! I might say, the first one to benefit with these war would be the highest government officials because like what you've said, it is the perfect time to scoop out portions of the nation's budget due to the ongoing chaos. It would be easier for them to disclose a fake financial plan publicly as a defensive measures. Ammunition and military suppliers comes second and they could also be part of the corruption, they could serve as a primary outlet as to where these budgets are going to.  Then, everyone would suffer, even those people who are not part of the country under the war.

agree, it is certain that war is everywhere and at this time Russia's intervention in Ukraine is very unprofitable for the two countries. all the losers from all the problems, especially the economic and infrastructure sector which was in ruins, the war did not win or lose, but both of them lost in the ability to be able to revive to a stable economy.

war will have an impact, there are pros and cons which actually make the war grow unstoppable, all those who help make sure there is a specific purpose, some are selling weapons etc. sincerely or with other intentions, which ultimately binds them so that they cannot escape from the grip.

I must say that no country has really benefited from war, including in conflict situations between Russia and Ukraine. The presence of foreign troops or the supply of war equipment by other countries does not mean that they are taking advantage of the conflict.

Conversely, conflict situations can undermine global political and economic stability, and can affect international trade, resource supply, and investment. Political and security crises can disrupt international trade and investment, which in turn can affect the global economy and the stability of market prices. In addition, war can also damage infrastructure and natural resources, which can affect economic sustainability and prosperity in areas involved in conflict.

As a country at war and oppressed by other countries, seeking to drive them to their destruction, Russia could not help but face some difficulties. But with the ongoing hostilities, I don't believe Russia is becoming as exhausted as you say. The war has not ended, and there is no final result, so it is difficult to say who has suffered more damage.

News in the media is largely manipulated by two parties, what we read is for reference only and should not be trusted too much. I will continue to wait for the final outcome of the battle.

I beg your pardon - but you have such a strange assessment. You talk about the dead, about the beneficiaries of the situation, but not a word about who started this nightmare - about Russia, its authorities and its people, ready for the sake of painful fantasies of a pathetic copy of the Fuhrer, to go kill citizens of another country, about their morals, more precisely about its complete absence, about the sadism with which they destroy cities and the population of Ukraine... Can we start with this?

Regarding Zelensky. And maybe it's better about Putin and his gang of bloodsuckers? Who pays him money, where does he keep it, who helps him avoid sanctions? No, I am not defending Zelensky, but your rhetoric hints at the fact that you want to "turn the conversation aside" from real criminals.

Zelensky is not my choice, and I have a lot of complaints and questions about him. But accusations should not be fantasies - but proven or have an evidentiary basis. And what you write is just your fantasy.

But what I agree on is external control and external legal assistance will be needed. In my country, unfortunately, there is a high level of corruption, and power is part of it. Therefore, after the victory over rashizm, we still have a long struggle with corruption, collaborators and other problems. And here, without independent external control, it will be very difficult

so many families cried for the fathers who are not coming home yet their lives still do not matter to those who benefitted from this war. how much money is sent to Zelensky that only goes into his account who knows where he hid his BTC if he does have.

recently we are seeing some news where Zelensky is calling China for peace talks.
if there will be peace coming soon, there will be funds to be sent for the rebuilding of Ukraine. then again another question who will hold those funds because this is entirely a new government when war is over.

Wars can be started for many reasons, including economic gain, political power, and territorial expansion, which may not benefit most of the people involved. While it is true that wars often end in peace and can lead to a restoration of stability, it is important to remember that the costs of war are very high. If it's finished, as you said, if not, how?

If Russia has received any material benefit from the war it has unleashed with Ukraine, then it is temporary. Recently, I saw a figure in the news that only 9 percent of foreign enterprises withdrew their assets from Russia. Russia blackmails and threatens them in every possible way, threatening to nationalize their property if they try to leave the country. Many of the foreign enterprises are ready to take certain losses in order to leave Russia, but it is difficult to sell their property there. As a result, Russia will be recognized as an unreliable partner for doing business, and foreign business will gradually leave Russia.

Earlier, Russia refused to return several hundred civilian aircraft that were leased from other states. But they can only be operated in Russia, and their maintenance is impossible due to the lack of imported components. Therefore, there are more and more accidents and plane crashes, and Russian planes are being arrested in order to compensate for losses. After a short period of time, the Russian air fleet will be practically destroyed.