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February 16, 2017, 10:53:12 PM
#69
there's no such thing as immortality .. everything and everyone dies at some point
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February 16, 2017, 01:50:57 PM
#68
Objectively, we may reach immortality at some point. It might be attained by keeping the body forever healthy and avoiding death factors, or brain data uploading as suggested by some members. However I think it is not good from a psychological point of view. Can an endless life truly be called "life"? If being alive is defined as "not being dead", can life exist in the abscence of the concept of death? And somebody immortal would be mentally unstable, creating a "void" in his person, leading him to have no goals, and wishing his very own death.

But this way the concept of death would still exist, one could die in accident or in a war for example. The only change is that suicide would be a popular way to die. When you are bored to live thousands of years you simply kill yourselves.


It depends on what one means with immortality. If it means to never age, then what you said is simply true. However if it is the kind that just doesn't let you die like a fast regeneration even from a single cell, then that's when the hell starts.
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February 16, 2017, 09:20:33 AM
#67
We have to accept death. All living things will disappear. Our world has a certain life span. The universe has a certain life span.
After a specific moment, all energy in the world will be gone. And everything will be gone without asking for it.

It will be in big crunch as it is the big bang.
Everything in our life has a deadline. And beyond our life, as well. I do not believe in the immortality. I believe in the longevity. Many animals can live for over two hundred years. Scientists say that many insects live for a thousands of years, just falling into anabiosis. In this case, I believe, that some sort of immortality might exist.

For this, biological structures of animals in the nature can be examined. For example, elephants and turtles can live for 150-200 years.
Long life exists in other living things. It may be logical to examine them and apply them to human life.
I'm not saying that it is necessary to compare humans and animals. I say that there are a variety of creatures on Earth that, due to their physiology, live a little longer, but it can not be named "immortality".

When we come to point where we could use medicine to create healthy living cells, that will be first step for humanity to become immortal. When you can create new organs, and replace old ones, in that moment we will become immortal. Because we can replace everything that is bad with new ones and continue living life.
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February 16, 2017, 08:58:28 AM
#66
We have to accept death. All living things will disappear. Our world has a certain life span. The universe has a certain life span.
After a specific moment, all energy in the world will be gone. And everything will be gone without asking for it.

It will be in big crunch as it is the big bang.
Everything in our life has a deadline. And beyond our life, as well. I do not believe in the immortality. I believe in the longevity. Many animals can live for over two hundred years. Scientists say that many insects live for a thousands of years, just falling into anabiosis. In this case, I believe, that some sort of immortality might exist.

For this, biological structures of animals in the nature can be examined. For example, elephants and turtles can live for 150-200 years.
Long life exists in other living things. It may be logical to examine them and apply them to human life.
I'm not saying that it is necessary to compare humans and animals. I say that there are a variety of creatures on Earth that, due to their physiology, live a little longer, but it can not be named "immortality".
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February 15, 2017, 08:26:05 PM
#65
I think immortality is only gonna work in conjuction with perfect health. There's no way I'd want to live forever in a broken body.

The only viable possibility is by uploading your mind. The world can't cope with a few extra billion immortals eating and sitting,.

But even if you are digital what of the jobs? There won't be enough for the real people if the virtual ones are using their  centuries of experience.
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February 15, 2017, 03:41:41 PM
#64
Objectively, we may reach immortality at some point. It might be attained by keeping the body forever healthy and avoiding death factors, or brain data uploading as suggested by some members. However I think it is not good from a psychological point of view. Can an endless life truly be called "life"? If being alive is defined as "not being dead", can life exist in the abscence of the concept of death? And somebody immortal would be mentally unstable, creating a "void" in his person, leading him to have no goals, and wishing his very own death.

But this way the concept of death would still exist, one could die in accident or in a war for example. The only change is that suicide would be a popular way to die. When you are bored to live thousands of years you simply kill yourselves.
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February 15, 2017, 02:24:41 PM
#63
Millions long for immortality who don't know what to do with themselves on a rainy Sunday afternoon.
-Susan Ertz


I really like that quote! It explains the bad thing about immortality very well. When one's life is limited, the opportunities and experiences may seem infinite, but being immortal, one would put a limit on that. What comes after being sick of it all is obvious.
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February 15, 2017, 10:37:08 AM
#62
Millions long for immortality who don't know what to do with themselves on a rainy Sunday afternoon.
-Susan Ertz
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February 15, 2017, 07:03:31 AM
#61
We have to accept death. All living things will disappear. Our world has a certain life span. The universe has a certain life span.
After a specific moment, all energy in the world will be gone. And everything will be gone without asking for it.

It will be in big crunch as it is the big bang.
Everything in our life has a deadline. And beyond our life, as well. I do not believe in the immortality. I believe in the longevity. Many animals can live for over two hundred years. Scientists say that many insects live for a thousands of years, just falling into anabiosis. In this case, I believe, that some sort of immortality might exist.

For this, biological structures of animals in the nature can be examined. For example, elephants and turtles can live for 150-200 years.
Long life exists in other living things. It may be logical to examine them and apply them to human life.
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February 14, 2017, 01:32:30 PM
#60
There can be only one!
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February 14, 2017, 11:15:44 AM
#59
I think that the afterlife is in itself immortality and therefore people who are religious should not be worrying about immortality, especially when one of the main ideas for achieving it is uploading one's mind to a different existence which is essentially what the afterlife is.

However, as an atheist I believe that immortality is impossible.  Preventing ageing could be possible as the main cause of age is cells which is may be possible to replicate. However, to protect ourselves from external threats is what's impossible because there are always threats powerful enough to destroy the fragile human body or even enhanced organisms.
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February 14, 2017, 11:03:11 AM
#58
Objectively, we may reach immortality at some point. It might be attained by keeping the body forever healthy and avoiding death factors, or brain data uploading as suggested by some members. However I think it is not good from a psychological point of view. Can an endless life truly be called "life"? If being alive is defined as "not being dead", can life exist in the abscence of the concept of death? And somebody immortal would be mentally unstable, creating a "void" in his person, leading him to have no goals, and wishing his very own death.
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February 14, 2017, 08:10:50 AM
#57
I am not religious but even the bible and the quran say that this world will cease to exist in the day of Apocalypse or the day of Resurrection. Even the sun lifespan is limited and when the sun will not be able to produce more energy to heat our planet that day is the day of Apocalypse. This world was created to not last forever and so all the inhabitants of it including human beings. Immortality is just a fairy tale.
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February 14, 2017, 08:09:41 AM
#56
We have to accept death. All living things will disappear. Our world has a certain life span. The universe has a certain life span.
After a specific moment, all energy in the world will be gone. And everything will be gone without asking for it.

It will be in big crunch as it is the big bang.
Everything in our life has a deadline. And beyond our life, as well. I do not believe in the immortality. I believe in the longevity. Many animals can live for over two hundred years. Scientists say that many insects live for a thousands of years, just falling into anabiosis. In this case, I believe, that some sort of immortality might exist.
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February 14, 2017, 07:37:38 AM
#55
i think it would be okay uuntill you get to the point where all your loved ones would start to pass
Poor Captain America Cheesy . Being immortal is not a possible thought so i would pass on as i do not have anything to comment regarding this.Lets thing about the possibilities rather than fictions.
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February 13, 2017, 10:44:54 AM
#54
We have to accept death. All living things will disappear. Our world has a certain life span. The universe has a certain life span.
After a specific moment, all energy in the world will be gone. And everything will be gone without asking for it.

It will be in big crunch as it is the big bang.
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February 10, 2017, 12:50:20 AM
#53
i think it would be okay uuntill you get to the point where all your loved ones would start to pass
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February 09, 2017, 03:37:30 PM
#52
The way it can be done is using fuzzy logic.
You are connected to a computer, fully conscious.
The brain is copied into the computer.
One part of your brain is disabled and the computer takes over that task, then the next part is disabled and the computer takes over that and so on.
There is no way to tell when you go over from being human to a digital human if this is done gradualy so the digital human will be you.

Hmmm now im more interested when you put it like that ... What is it that makes human human ? Is it our logic and brain , or is it something else ? Because when you transfer your self in to computer you are no longer human , you are machine , computer if you like . And what if when you transfer your self to computer you are no longer capable to learn new things on emotional level . Computers dont have emotions , they are all numbers and stuff . And even if its posible to make emotions they will be only numbers and code , nothing more ...

Emotions are not supernatural things. Our emotions emerge with the influence of hormones. They are physico-chemical events in the hormones. These physico-chemical phenomena can be imitated.

You are right when you say that emotions are not supernatural things. Yes they are physico-chemical events, but i think  that they cant be copyed to full potential of emotions. Because sometime emotions in humans are trigered not only of one thing like hot woman. It could be improved with environment and things that surrounds you. I think they could be copied, but not to its full potential.
jid
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February 09, 2017, 12:11:42 AM
#51
immortality in this word is impossible.
but immortality after this word (here after)
i think it's true.
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February 08, 2017, 11:59:27 AM
#50
The way it can be done is using fuzzy logic.
You are connected to a computer, fully conscious.
The brain is copied into the computer.
One part of your brain is disabled and the computer takes over that task, then the next part is disabled and the computer takes over that and so on.
There is no way to tell when you go over from being human to a digital human if this is done gradualy so the digital human will be you.

Hmmm now im more interested when you put it like that ... What is it that makes human human ? Is it our logic and brain , or is it something else ? Because when you transfer your self in to computer you are no longer human , you are machine , computer if you like . And what if when you transfer your self to computer you are no longer capable to learn new things on emotional level . Computers dont have emotions , they are all numbers and stuff . And even if its posible to make emotions they will be only numbers and code , nothing more ...

Emotions are not supernatural things. Our emotions emerge with the influence of hormones. They are physico-chemical events in the hormones. These physico-chemical phenomena can be imitated.
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